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+ | Why isn't dark bond included in the variants or even the default setup? It seems like the perfect skill for the build. Also, why should heroes only have a minor death rune instead of superior? Lastly, wouldn't a different elite be of greater use in PvE such as tainted flesh or Reaper's Mark? You could even use a support elite like BiP if you just take a few points from soul reaping. Seems like jagged bones is not very useful compared to what else would take up the elite slot.[[User:Narcotic|Narcotic]] 01:34, 1 June 2008 (EDT) |
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− | Anybody every consider using this skill? It seemed like a default choice to me yet it isn't mentioned anywhere in the article...[[User:Narcotic|Narcotic]] 01:34, 1 June 2008 (EDT) |
Revision as of 05:52, 1 June 2008
You should add a link to Team - Triple Necro Vanquish as the third necro build exactly uses this setup. JoE554 07:27, 5 March 2008 (EST)
Lol @ PvXJing's vote
Just lol. Rickyvantof 00:55, 5 March 2008 (EST)
- "Heroes tend to suck at minion bombing." OMFG TELL ME ABOUT IT! I ran this on Koss and he sucked up a fucking storm! - zomg! PANIC! 05:15, 5 March 2008 (EST)
- Possibly most epic thing ever said, Panic. Rusty 06:03, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
- I KNO RITE!? Rickyvantof 10:48, 5 March 2008 (EST)
I'd run this on a Warrior, just for kicks. Rickyvantof 12:41, 5 March 2008 (EST)
- Ritualists>Necros. Godbox 13:18, 5 March 2008 (EST)
- It's a bomber... Soul Reaping > Spawning Power. - zomg! PANIC! 13:21, 5 March 2008 (EST)
- Also, more minions = more bombing. Rickyvantof 01:04, 6 March 2008 (EST)
- It's a bomber... Soul Reaping > Spawning Power. - zomg! PANIC! 13:21, 5 March 2008 (EST)
Hero Notes
"For heroes, replace the superior Death rune with a minor Death rune." With heroes it's especially important to use 16 Death Magic, as they don't have 10 minions they'll keep spamming animate, regardless of the fact that they can never attain 10. Also, under optional slots, you need more skill options from other professions! /Mo or /Rt pwn on bombers:) Everlong 17:16, 6 March 2008 (EST)
- Less than 500 health on heroes is bad. Especially in HM. -- Mafaraxas 18:20, 6 March 2008 (EST)
- There are ways of using a Superior Rune on Heroes, like with two Fortitude mods. I'd probably use a Spear of Fortitude with "I Have the Power!" and a Death Magic Focus of Fortitude. The extra max energy and reduced casting time, recharge and even + attribute mods aren't that important. -Mike 18:36, 6 March 2008 (EST)
- MM's without superior Runes aren't that great. 10 Minions make practically a Berlin Wall, and I doubt people will be attacking you. --GuildofDeals 07:36, 8 March 2008 (EST)
- 10 minions vs. 9 minions is less of an impact than the health difference, imo. From my experience, shit always goes for the MM first in HM, and once his DP is > 30, he's kind of screwed. So it's best to avoid that as much as possible. -- Mafaraxas 14:15, 8 March 2008 (EST)
- It's a matter of personal preference, we could add something about it in the Notes or something. -Mike 15:47, 8 March 2008 (EST)
- 10 minions vs. 9 minions is less of an impact than the health difference, imo. From my experience, shit always goes for the MM first in HM, and once his DP is > 30, he's kind of screwed. So it's best to avoid that as much as possible. -- Mafaraxas 14:15, 8 March 2008 (EST)
- MM's without superior Runes aren't that great. 10 Minions make practically a Berlin Wall, and I doubt people will be attacking you. --GuildofDeals 07:36, 8 March 2008 (EST)
- There are ways of using a Superior Rune on Heroes, like with two Fortitude mods. I'd probably use a Spear of Fortitude with "I Have the Power!" and a Death Magic Focus of Fortitude. The extra max energy and reduced casting time, recharge and even + attribute mods aren't that important. -Mike 18:36, 6 March 2008 (EST)
Couldn't you add Taste of Death and spam it in order to wipe your minions on will?
Another Thing
I think the nature ritual Pestilence would combine very well with this build (although probably carried by another team-member). There probably won't be any conditions on your team and once you find the minion which is getting all your team's conditions, you can kill it. Most of the enemies will probably already have conditions on them, so you're creating even more devastation. Just a thought :D Konradishes 18:04, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
- Yeah, it's a good skill to take if your team is condition-heavy. Otherwise it's just not worth it. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 01:31, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
Build:N/Mo Supportive Minion Master
They're very similar, and even cover most of each others' variants. Wut do we do? -Mike 18:15, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
- WATCH PORN? ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 18:19, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
- Srsly though, that above build used to have Flesh Golem untill Rapta changed it. If any, the above build should be deleted for merging. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 18:20, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
- I agree, because this build is generalized, and doesn't restrict you to a Monk Secondary. Also, porn doesn't solve everything, but it's very close. -Mike 18:23, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
- Srsly though, that above build used to have Flesh Golem untill Rapta changed it. If any, the above build should be deleted for merging. ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹ 18:20, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
3 Questions
Why isn't dark bond included in the variants or even the default setup? It seems like the perfect skill for the build. Also, why should heroes only have a minor death rune instead of superior? Lastly, wouldn't a different elite be of greater use in PvE such as tainted flesh or Reaper's Mark? You could even use a support elite like BiP if you just take a few points from soul reaping. Seems like jagged bones is not very useful compared to what else would take up the elite slot.Narcotic 01:34, 1 June 2008 (EDT)