Any changes before going into testing?-- Liger414 talk 11:47, 12 December 2008 (EST)
- Agressive Refrain pl0x. Main bar. Spaggage talk 12:14, 12 December 2008 (EST)
- Ah, knew I was missing something.-- Liger414 talk 12:17, 12 December 2008 (EST)
- Imo, use Fall Back and get a better elite. Incoming still kinda sucks. The only different between fall back and this is that fall back ends when you attack....Karate Jesus 12:24, 12 December 2008 (EST)
- Ah, knew I was missing something.-- Liger414 talk 12:17, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Add CM, speed boost on slow moving units such as Siege Turtles are greatly beneficial. It also serves as a counter for health degeneration. Huynh Sanity 21:28, 12 December 2008 (EST)
BUMP-- Liger414 talk 13:34, 14 December 2008 (EST)
- Change the build name. Huynh Sanity 18:35, 14 December 2008 (EST)
- Why and to what?-- Liger414 talk 03:06, 15 December 2008 (EST)
- Cause it isn't technically only for AB anymore and to idk, Incoming Paragon for the name. Huynh Sanity 22:38, 15 December 2008 (EST)
- Why and to what?-- Liger414 talk 03:06, 15 December 2008 (EST)
Merge
With Build:P/any Mobility Utility. Hardly enough difference to warrant two seperate articles. Selket Shadowdancer 12:45, 19 December 2008 (EST)
- Different usages and that one should have a lot different skills, Song of Concentration etc. for HA. Disagree.-- Liger414 talk 14:49, 19 December 2008 (EST)
- no, i'm gonna have to agree with shadowdancer. The goal of the two is movement assistance, just list the skills listed here as AB optionals in the other build. Just take out Rez sig for Holy spear and that's the only difference between this build and what the other build already lists.--IkimonoI know Paragons. Listen Padowan 15:03, 19 December 2008 (EST)
Nice idea for guild team
I like this build, has a good place in AB in my mind. I am thinking of it in a team with 2 other paragons and a healer of sorts. You run this, a PVP commandogon and a PVP Motigon with synergies for both the paras and the healer. the perma run speed means your other teamies dont need to put ims on their bars... Gonna do some brain storming and see what I can put together team wise... :) Nice build again! Anwyn 03:17, 29 January 2009 (EST)
- warrior cancel stance Soldier's Defense? also i had an idea a while ago for using soldiers stance with incoming. I dont think you can fit it into any PvP instance though.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 17:29, 10 February 2009 (EST)
Few Changes
Playing CM on Kurzick side I adjusted it a little and I liked to play it that way (old one was tricky to overtake mines solo, healing - shout range wide [nice for shrines] - is better now too). Both speed skills last 10 secs each, leaving 5 secs open (25 secs recharge each one):
I use a spear that lengthens poison and command 11+1+2, spear 11+1, leader 8+1, wilderness the rest (3). Fall Back also might be replaced by Make Hast for Jade Quarry, but I didn't test it, I like it like that - fast and a little heal. --Birchwooda Treehug 09:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)