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Fuck, I was wondering when this would show up. --71.229 05:26, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

I was going to make this but i looked at the varients of the Escape Scythe and saw Wounding Strike so, I just left it. Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 05:28, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Someone fancy checking the attributes for me? I'm not exactly sure what's run. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 05:30, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Drop Wilder to 7+1 to hit breakpoint for Natural, and in the usage remember to note that you must's cast Vital Boon while natural is up or you will loose the stance. Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 05:33, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
No reason to. There's no useful attrib spread that allows 7 in Wilderness but not 8 - they're all spread between 4 attribs, and this doesn't need heavy spec into Earth. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 05:34, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
I've run it 11+1+1/11/6+1/6, but that was with Rend and a monk that freaks out under pressure. --71.229 05:38, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

This is run by [Glad] right? Pretty sexeh IMO. --Luuck 07:15, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

It's run by pretty much everyone now. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 07:20, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
And suddenly apply poison doesnt suk on scythe rangers anymore--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK (Talk | Edits) 11:07, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Typical PvX, who cares. And besides, this adds bleeding too. Anyway, CM and AB tags? -StarSeeker | My talk 12:35, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Bleh, PvX is just a big fucking idiocy; everyone changes opinions in a few seconds. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 12:38, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
AB and CM could work I guess. I just never tag it because everything works there. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 12:39, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Added for you anyways. -StarSeeker | My talk 12:43, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Everyone doesnt change its opinion in a matter of seconds; they change their opinion in a matter of meta shift. Brandnew pew pew me! 13:36, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Yes, that implies everyone is just a big meta lurker. Brandnew pew pew me! 13:36, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
Most people are more like "apply poison is bad" *goes to obs* "apply poison is crazy pressure". Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 13:47, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
And besides from that, they generally are meta whores too. Brandnew pew pew me! 15:36, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

>Vital Boon ¬ Klumpeet 17:50{GMT}21-05-MMVIII

See variants. Boon means Victory attacks trigger like crazy. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 13:56, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Really good build, better than Escape one. Deep wound + bleeding + poison every 3 seconds FTW! Augury of DeathBlack Sheep2 21:53 21 May 2008 (CET)

Different usage, to be honest. This is just blowing their brains out, that is being a invinci frontliner with ench removal. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 09:20, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

I wouldve of said AoT too, because long lasting, and u can cripple that way, it casts faster, but VB is much nicer cause of crippling victory.--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK (Talk | Edits) 22:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

PvE general?

I'm for removing the tag or adding a PvE Variant build in the article. The main bar is not for PvE.User Ereanor sigreanor 20:42, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Could someone explain the merits of Vital Boon over Troll Unguent? If you already have a decent Wilderness Survival, it doesn't seem worth using Vital Boon... - PwnageLlama (If I did something wrong, please let me know. This is my first edit.) The preceding unsigned comment was added by PwnageLlama (contribs) .

Read the Wounding Strike description. It needs and enchant to cause deep wound. --User:IbreaktoiletsTab Moo 07:56, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Actually it has more to do with Chilling victory.User Ereanor sigreanor 15:20, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

no... it's about wounding strike... why use an elite for bleeding? You need vital boon for deepwound.

You need vital boon for the additional health it provides allowing you to trigger the victory skills more often, even while under pressure. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 15:37, 23 May 2008 (EDT)\

Victorious strike should be added as varient for pve and does it work on heroes well? 76.126.210.243 19:54, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

while the argument is pretty pointless because vital boon serves a dual purpose, its definitely much more important to have it for wounding strike than the victory skills... w/o vital boon u wasted an elite, victories are pretty easy to trigger on targets w/ deep wound anyway 68.54.150.61 13:10, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Natural Stride

Imo, Whirling Defense is better than Natural Stride, you already have your snare, plus..Whirling + Enemy Spirits = Lul. Besides you get your extra point in scythe mastery...idk. discuss--Rella 21:13, 25 May 2008 (EDT)

Condi removal. Nat stride is wayyyyyyyyyyy better. Being able to target switch > being a nig and blocking. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 21:32, 25 May 2008 (EDT)
Lol thats poorly explained--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK (Talk | Edits) 20:14, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Speed Buff is wut hes saying. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:39, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

tbh, Whirling would be a fucking strong VoD skill — Skakid 20:52, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

That is true. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:54, 1 June 2008 (EDT)
Might be strong at vod, but this can practicly do whatever you want before it(split, do big dmg, and again, gank their base, gank their base and gank their base). Taking that skill for vod-only is pretty bad tbh, you really need a speed boost to make crippling victory effective. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 09:19, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
Besides; you have lightning reflexes as your vod-invinciness. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 09:21, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
It does AoE dmg whenever you block projectiles. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:25, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
But it wouldn't be worth it--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 18:06, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
You do realize if you SoD a Whirling Defense ranger as he pulls aggro he's going to be dealing about 100 AoE DPS on top of the imbalanced scythe damage, correct? — Skakid 22:41, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

nerf

to chilling victory? Pwnagemuffin 20:01, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Archive

Y/N?

N. Eventhough the biggest part of the damage output of this particular build came from CV, it still has a scythe. Scythes, even without CV, do an ridiculous amount of damage. Imo swap CV for utility or for something along the lines of mystic sweep. Brandnew. 22:36, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
Radiant scythe?--Crossfire's Signature 22:36, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
Give it a day or two before changing. — Skakid 22:40, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
No way should this be archived. Still plenty of options left --DervsigAngelus(stalk|contribs) 22:42, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
So let's just change CV to optional and put Victorious Sweep and Radiant Scythe in the variants...Rihadol 08:31, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
What about Eremite's Attack and Mystic Sweep? ــмıкεнaшк 09:27, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
It still spams Conditions. Even Reap Impurities adds some decent damage and a little more survivability. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Oops guys i removed tag with Chilling Victory uptade thing but I forget that its not only for PvE build (beacuse CV works there still) but also for PvP where CV dont work in that. Sorry I just realized it after remove of it. Dont know what to do now so I telling you that. Black Sheep2 05:42, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Fixed Frosty No U! 05:45, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
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