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Support spike, crip stuff offensively/defensively, use utility. Diff usage and playstyle from other mels bar, should have its own page. Someone write up properly plox--GoldenGoldenstarStar 20:40, 25 December 2008 (EST)

I like the /P, I'm not a big fan of WaM in HA, but that's just me. Goodnight L A
This doesn't have WaM...=\--GoldenGoldenstarStar 20:44, 25 December 2008 (EST)
mel shot, grasping, waf, SUPERRRR SNARE-WaffleZ LOL-. 20:49, 25 December 2008 (EST)
Sometimes people in HA are silly and take expensive wards on classes that can't afford them. 68.58.91.59 01:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Sometimes anons are terrible and can't manage energy--Goldenstar 01:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Some people have flavor of the month goggles and can't see how bad this actually is. 68.58.91.59 01:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

WaF is pretty expensive, tbh. SoC+"Make Haste!" should probably be main bar, tbh.ــмıкεнaшк 21:03, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Don't comment about a meta bar just 5-5-X, yes people do run Ward on this bar. FrostrageFrosty po! 21:04, 25 December 2008 (EST)
Foes can be kind of expensive but you won't normally be using it unless snaring relics (unlike a caster who would play it on all maps).--GoldenGoldenstarStar 21:06, 25 December 2008 (EST)

I'd probably just go with Lightening Reflexes over Nat Stride anyways. So many hexes and enchants in HA I doubt it could stay up long enough. And Reflexes in great for stopping physical spikes.(71.82.120.38 18:28, 31 December 2008 (EST))

Natural Stride wins relic runs. Drahgal Meir 15:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
And splits. Either works fine though--Goldenstar 16:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Cripple every 12 seconds, otherwise just standard poison and 'rupts. This build is terrible. Your team's Earth skills should not be on the ranger. Use a different elite. Add some spike assist like Zojun's Shot. Needling shot can double your rate of poison spread. Poor use of ranger's potential.--ClavisRa 16:03, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

How the hell is Regular Arrow -> Mel's Shot -> Savage Shot or even Regular Arrow -> Savage Shot not enough spike assist?  Thomas So Dutch  16:05, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
I actually lol'd irl at how bad that comment was Rawrawr Dinosaur 16:35, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
First, MS is once every 12 seconds, and its main purpose is to snare, so it will almost never be available for spike assist, unless you give up use as snare. Second, at 9 Marksmanship, regular arrow is negligible damage, as is Savage unless you are lucky enough to hit a spell on the spike assist. You may as well wand the target. You would be more helpful timing a 'rupt on the Prot, or sitting on the WoH on a spike.--ClavisRa 16:40, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Wow. Just wow. ----~Short~ 16:41, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Well you just proved you don't even HA, considering people dont run WoH. Rawrawr Dinosaur 17:42, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ok on snares during relic runs you have an IMS and blocking so you can't get line backed/dshoted while using your earth snares, melandru's shot recharges in 12 seconds, quick enough to get a mel's off at least once on every relic runner in halls and more than once on unholy. It may not have a v big spike assist, but it can shutdown things such as rits/mesmers/ele's etc, along with a PD it means you have a fair amount of shutdown. And ofcourse poison spread makes for a lot of pressure. Honestly, saying this is dumb shows you clearly don't HA anywhere past underworld or you play some form of bad gimmick too much. --Frosty Frostcharge 17:02, November 2, 2009 (UTC)
I demand Natural Stride instead of Lightning Reflexes. Adriaanz 08:47, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Potentially make a HA Ranger

Seeing as playstyle rarely changes in HA for a generic ranger, would it be good to make the elite optional, seeing as things like IA and Magebane (especially magebane) are seeing more and more play. --Frosty Frostcharge 09:18, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

IA is ran with /P utility--GWPirate 14:07, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
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