"lay down ur spirit" i dont see any spirits in that build Yaniv242 03:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much any long-living spirit with low energy to cast works. ur a shitter. Life Guardian 03:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I am not a shitter. I use tranquility and that works fine. Alot of people do it differently. This works dude. It has for a long time. And to answer your question the optional spot is put in for a spirit. --DoA Master 16:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't tried this since the EW nerf, but i used to solo trap the first 3 waves of veil all the time on my ranger--TahiriVeila 16:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yep same here. You don't need EW though. At all. Which is why its not in this build. Also, the 3rd wave is doable also, but it is more profitable to rinse and repeat the first 2. --DoA Master 17:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Third was harder, you need to put spirits much farthers back to pull in fiends--TahiriVeila 17:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

How long does this take? Cuz tbh, raven/SF works pretty well. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

This takes longer then Raven/SF, but it mucho easier. No body blocking or anything. Plus this is more fun cause you get to see alot of yellow numbers fly. --DoA Master 20:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok... But as a prediction, if thats the case, this will probably get a 3.2 and be trashed with 2 people 5s and the others 1s and 2s, but Im not gonna vote. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
pretty sure one of these have already been made Flesh Atrophy Epic VQ 22:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Btw Grazden, i was talking about yaniv or w/e, who had the first post on this page. I wasn't talking about you. Life Guardian 00:58, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahh ok didn't realize Life. And this is easier then Raven/SF, like you get this on first try. Easy. And yes this is an old build. There was one back before the EW nerf, but I made one that didn't require EW. --DoA Master 15:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Lol trappers speed?

Where is it? faster traps > less recharge on a spirit74.190.244.103 11:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

SQ recharges traps faster than trappers speed...33% vs 25%--TahiriVeila 11:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Yep. --DoA Master 19:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


Does ural's affect trap damage? If so consider it over flame trap?--TahiriVeila 16:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, EBSoH might be better. Drop it on traps before pull and get +14 every time a trap triggers--TahiriVeila 16:24, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
For EBSoH to work, you must be standing in it. That would be hard to use with you having to be on the run while the traps go off. Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 16:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
ups forgot that ebsoh was trigger where caster was standing not where damage was dealt. Would it still affect the trap damage if you move out of the way then dropped ebsoh? Otherwise BUH! it is--TahiriVeila 16:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
ebsoh wouldnt affect dust trap, so i would say buh. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:55, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I see no reason why EBSoH wouldn't affect traps... but again having to be on the run (especially in HM) makes it very hard to time it so that the Ward is up (and that's you're in it) when the traps go off. Taking "BUH!" might be nice, but that also means several less traps to go off... so I'm not sure it would make as big a difference. Have to try it though... Bulldozer1 Captain Bulldozer Don't TELL me that you're right... prove it. 16:57, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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