Build talk:R/P Condition Spear Ranger

Discussion

Why has this been moved to "Unfavoured" after it was voted 3-0 on the GWWiki? Ni 01:01, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

That sucks. Oh well if it was 3-0 it should be favored here too, whenver we can vote. Looks good to me at least. Swiftslash 09:05, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

I tried this build i think it rocks.Faramir

Battle Gods use this. 87.113.81.124

No, they use the bar I posted. - Krowman {{sysop}} 19:55, 17 September 2007 (CEST)

I love this build, so nice to have monks (easily, if you compare it to BHA) dazed in RA ^^. Unexist 20:14, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

If we change it to something like this in the standard bar, I'll add the GvG tag to it. I'd want DW skills in there somewhere, maybe Variants. But yeah, this is pretty sweet. - Krowman {{sysop}} 20:26, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

I'd also like natural stride(or vicious attack) instead of slayer's spear. Slayer's spear = no deep wound anyway, since you're targets will be higher health then you alot of times. And it's kinda a bit of energy, not mutch additional dmg. Unexist 18:28, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Umm... if your target has higher health than deep wound WILL happen, according to the skill. And Expertise reduces the skill's energy cost. --NYC Elite 09:29, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

Checked and Reviewed

For Viability. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:37, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Suggestion

Change attributes to beast 10+1+1 exp 8+1 spear 12 WS 2. It hardly maintains the ability to spread poison at the current WS, and you dont need the poison to last last as it is easily re-applied. In short, this saves you 75 health at the cost of a few seconds of apply poison. - Skakid9090 09:34, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

There are no shields that offer additional energy, did you mean an off-hand? Silence 20:40, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

why not add blazing spear? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.173.119.119 (contribs) 13:20, 28 July 2007.

because that skill is Uber-Terrible. Ni 05:27, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

No, it just doesn't synergise with a build that already inflicts -7 degen. Tycn 14:38, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

Bar Improvement

Merciless Spear, eh. -Shen 13:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Other Option would be make elite optional, put in Disrupting Throw. -Shen 13:04, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Maiming Spear? -Shen 13:06, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Dthrow in main, kill merciless. DW is good but isn't needed on non-frontliners. Ints are more util. Swiftslash \\ (contributions *sandbox) 13:26, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Rating Removal Comments

Never again. My brain almost imploded. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 15:00, 26 January 2008 (EST)

</3 — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:01, 26 January 2008 (EST)

Whomever deleted

Go die. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 19:02, 28 January 2008 (EST)

No self heal?

No condition removal either - why the RA tag? --Randomshuffle234234 01:04, 29 January 2008 (EST)

I RA all the time without a self heal and condition removal. --71.229.204.25 01:21, 29 January 2008 (EST)

I never bring a selfheal in RA and it works fine for me. Railin 07:10, 29 January 2008 (EST)

Troll Unguent should probably still be in variants anyway. Also instead of res in AB. -StarSeeker | My talk 09:22, 29 January 2008 (EST)

So if we depend purely on the monk to heal us, it's not TA? --Randomshuffle234234 21:52, 29 January 2008 (EST)

It would be TA, in that case. But I wouldn't say purely monks. -Shen 21:54, 29 January 2008 (EST)

You've got the automatic survivability of a ranger in RA/AB. You're not a high priority target (Get the monk/mesmer/necro!) and you have a good armor rating (especially against RA and AB, where elemental damage is common). Also, remove the AB tag, because this build's not good for AB. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:39, 30 January 2008 (EST)

Completely true. Rather than provoke rants, I'd like to provide my own take on those who say survivability is an issue. Rangers with Troll Unguent and Mending Touch have good survivability, even if Troll is begging to be interrupted in TA and even RA, to a lesser extent. These types of rangers take the skills, however, because there isn't a reason not to. Secondary profession variance, interrupts aplenty, and an elite choice that grants the ranger the ability to conform to other roles render the exclusion of resilience-augmenting skills inane. But the fundamental point is that such rangers can't be compared to this purely one's concept of condition-pressure and DPS incomparable to that of a ranger's. The elite choice alone distances the build from those boasting M-touch and troll. Which leads to me to say, Natural Stride becomes a very useful addition because it's so versatile, but the inclusion of it alone does not warrant a lower rating because it can be compared to M-touch rangers. Because it can't. -Shen 18:04, 30 January 2008 (EST)