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Kind of surprised nobody did a general purpose PvE build like this already but I haven't noticed one since the update and didn't see one in the trial/abandoned/trash sections. Suggestions on skill selection and even the order to cast in would be much appreciated. Necromas 18:35, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Attributes would be well appreciated as well.Deanroy Flamestone@5:02PM GMT-6 4/6/2010

Fixed, they were there but not in the proper format. Necromas 22:28, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
Why is ancestor's rage not on this bar? It's like uber pwnage now Tyrael--(Talk) 21:05, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
It is mentioned in the variants. The reason is mostly because they doubled the recharge but also because armor ignoring isn't that big of a deal when you're stacking cracked armor and 20% armor penetration which lets you hit foes with 80-120 armor as if they only had 48-80 armor. Necromas 21:32, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Should be mainbarred, regardless of if it is affected by armor pen or not, it still does a lot of damage. - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 09:23, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

maybe...

Destructive Was Glaive Arcane Echo Spirit Rift Ancestors' Rage Spirit Siphon Optional Optional Great Dwarf Armor

Optional Optional 1:

Optional Optional 2:

...not as hard to handle (wrangling Destruction around the battlefield etc. is pretty annoying)Illoyon 17:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

looks a bit better, arcane is nice and mainbarring AR and SR too. Spirit siphon doesn't really need to be mainbarred - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 18:05, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Not too sure about the arcane, I think you will be busy enough that by the time you finish using the other skills the 5 second recharge from Glaive will be over. Maybe drop the bloodsong from the mainbar because if you have the option I think running SoS would be better. This build is great if you already have an SoS and an extra rit wants to join. Maybe a quick shadow step skill would be nice? Unwokensig1 20:40, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
lol, you can spam glaive loads if you arent taking your time up using more useless skills. - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 20:44, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
Plus there are enough SoS/AR/SW builds specifically designed to maximize the efficiency of those skills, and majority of builds using those were ultimately well/merged. --Falconeye 19:46, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone implement these changes? Need to put some thought in tho - mainbarring spirit siphon with only the one spirit is a bit pointless. - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 15:06, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

but only Auspicious Incantation is not enough emanagement.Illoyon 18:17, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
hmm, maybe renewing surge? - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 18:23, May 11, 2010 (UTC)


Destructive Was Glaive Arcane Echo Spirit Rift Ancestors' Rage "By Ural's Hammer!" Auspicious Incantation Channeling Great Dwarf Armor

this should work in most cases...but it still needs someone to ball up the foes to be "effective", so should i change the build?or is someone else able to do that.Illoyon 00:01, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Changes

i change the build to what it should look like...if you disagree just change it back or replace some skills.Illoyon 13:48, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

thanks, looks a lot better! I'm going to move this over to the right name.. - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 16:17, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

maybe needs a revote...because of the changes.Illoyon 16:12, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

vandalism

i change the build back to what it should look like...great armor is a must in general pve unless you have some more protection in your team (like a imbagon)...and i deleted this clumsy Rt/P variant, because it's just horrible.Illoyon 20:48, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

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