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Why wasn't this posted earlier? Also Trapping Moon, let me come bitchrole in the guild team. :< Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels 16:41, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

ask advik not me lol, i run para/war/mes xD. I dont have control over wat he wants you to run, but last night i bitched him out in ha. was funny as hell but we did make it to golden gates on a full run to halls. But lost to that stupid double mesmer(pd/PB0 bullshit. that was homo. anywayz i was running this and 8 ppl on our team were protted at one point and i think i almost cried lol. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 19:53, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Right well 6 energy regeneration is something like 2 energy each second, so thats 2x12, 24 energy, ontop of the 12 energy on cast, take the 5 (cost of using) you get 31 energy, every 30 second. OoS will average out at 24 energy every 30 seconds. So SC wins on actual energy management. However if Spirits are not in earshot (killed/rupted), you will only average 19 energy every 30 seconds, worse than OoS, and ofcourse, this is assuming that the enchantment isn't removed earlier.
OoS allows you to spec into spike assists at the cost of shorter weapon spells ofcourse. Well if you want to be an absolute defense whore, then I can see why you would use this, but loosing that guarenteed energy + spike assist, imo, is not worth it. --Frosty Frostcharge 17:07, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

well ive been running this for my guild and well i like it better then the OoS in HA, cause did u take the 40/20/20 staff into consideration? U get the 2% longer + you can get a half recharge making it really good, and tbh u dont lose the spike, since the mesmer will b dropping rend if you run a pd giving it to the rit and giving the mesmer an optional slot for anything u want, r an optional for w/e was using it to begin with. And with i mean ull run OoS if your doing a spike no doubt, but for the most part when you do a OoS Channeling Strike, your not running triple weps normally. But in a triple wep defense rit, SC wins in my opinion. It is a really over looked skill in my opinion. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 19:53, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

SC's energy gain if it lasts full duration: 31 energy. just some general info.--Ikimono...And my Axe!Monk-Paragon-icon 14:17, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

are ur taking the 20% longer duration into account? Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 14:21, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
i'm not the person but yes the net energy is 31 energy, and counds the +20 enchant AND the 1 energy from casting time. 164.106.166.49 21:15, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Vincent

lmao i carried a randomway to Courtyard last night with this, the builds we versed coulnt kill anything cause i kept proting them xD. i <3 this damn rit build is smexai. I want to gvg with it lmao. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 14:38, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

You couldn't have told me this in-game? :< Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels 14:39, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
no hoe cause u were afk for like 3 hours xD. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 14:45, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
D; Lets HM later today? I need my r2 KoaBD. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels 15:07, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Whoever complains about this not having channeling for spike assist I refer to this [[1]] Tyrael--(Talk) 15:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
Rend is still spike support even though this bar has nothing under channeling. With all these seeping sins it is more wise to bring Rend/Strip with triple weapons or something like Channeled Strike. Vincent Evan [Air Henchman] Vincels 15:10, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
yeah we will HM today but i got a game for water polo first, so as soon as im on we can ^.^, im 2 guardians away form r2 KoaBD and legendary guardian. :D Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 16:27, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

No lie this bar can carry a team against many things cause its strong. At least if u have a good ritualist its strong. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 16:29, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

so ppl finally found out that SC is the best e-management skill? Ocirne23 11:17, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
actual, i beg to differ, ive been playing both SC and OoB rits, and i have say, OoB is the best choice for triple weps, best emanage in my opinion. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 14:41, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Well the actual breakpoint of SC is 11 spawning. it gives a net total of 30 energy then. so 13 spawning is a bit wasted imo( unless you really want the longer wep duration ). At 11 this is the best e-manage skill tough Ocirne23 14:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
in my opinion the optional isnt important so you might as well shoot for 13 spawning and get the longer duration. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 14:58, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, if the optional is not important, but if you ever want something important in there, it is best to drop Spawning to 11 (edit: I have indenter's syndrome)Ocirne23 15:04, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
np lol and i most def agree with dropping spawning to 11 if the optional is important. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 15:09, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Spawning power

First off, this build>OoS/OoB because higher spawning. Second off, gwwiki says that for every rank of spawning weapon spells last 4% longer, thus 13 spawning should give about 4 secs more WoW/WoS, why does PvX say it only gives +2.1?--GWPirate 15:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

There was a spawning power update some time ago, and i think pvxwiki forgot to update it. And WoW/WoS should have +4 o.0 Ocirne23 15:59, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
And the decimals are useless since Guild Wars rounds all values to whole seconds ( I thought ) 0.5 is rounded down Ocirne23 16:01, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
its opinion not you just say its better, plus the rits build has to go with the team build, so no SC is not always the best, plz think before u speak. Trapping Moons LoveTML Dhammer 16:43, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
Tell me when OoB/OoS>SC--GWPirate 16:47, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
remember.. sc is an enchantment --Novii 17:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
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