Why two frozen grounds? Seems kinda pointless to me. 14:18, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Why apply poison? Rupert=Hawt Rupert bear sig15:13{GMT}10-06-MMVIII

--Aartist21 12:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)its used for extra degeneration against foes that escaped some of the traps because you have 0 Marksmanship and you can't do
noticeable (about 7 max..). There is no particular reason to use it you can replace it for any other skill that you like
I just happened to have it so I left it there and it's work fine


"(most people don't know it but you can put more then 1 of the same trap)." - I loled :D Dumazz 07:40, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

most people SHOULD know it or they never trapped before in their life 17:09, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

TRAPPERS SPEED!! btw it would be better to instead of putting the four skills in optionl just say 1 memeber form each team has each spirit (1 has FS, 1 has QZ, 1 has EW other can have whatever)Howe304sigHowe304 13:14, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

<pvxbig> [build prof=ranger/Secondary wild=12+1+3 exper=12+3][Trapper's Speed][Dust Trap][Tripwire][Spike Trap][Barbed Trap][Flame Trap][optional][troll unguent][/build] </pvxbig> with each of the 4 teammates having FS, QZ, EW, Peicing Trap in the optional. Howe304sigHowe304 13:20, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Trapper&#039;s Speed Dust Trap Tripwire Spike Trap Barbed Trap Flame Trap Frozen Soil Troll Unguent

Trapper&#039;s Speed Dust Trap Viper&#039;s Nest Spike Trap Barbed Trap Flame Trap Energizing Wind Troll Unguent
  • take bout 2 or 3 out of expertise and add it too beast mastery.
Trapper&#039;s Speed Dust Trap Piercing Trap Spike Trap Barbed Trap Flame Trap Quickening Zephyr Troll Unguent

Trapper&#039;s Speed Dust Trap Piercing Trap Smoke Trap Barbed Trap Flame Trap Frozen Soil Troll Unguent


can it be done with heroes?

Yes it can be done on zaishen challenge easy but on zaishen elite micro managing can be difficult and you usualy wont make it past the 5th round as if you come up against the ele or degen team the heroes dont go up to the enemies and trap em and micro managing them then is neerly impossible Howe304sigHowe304 11:11, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Trap order could be better, you want longer recharging ones at the start if you use above build in order its best, they recharge on after the other.Howe304sigHowe304 02:57, 17 June 2008 (EDT)


i changed it alot and made it clearer and look like a real team build complete with role specific usage etc.Howe304sigHowe304 13:13, 17 June 2008 (EDT)


This is the standard trap team build, and has been used for aaaaaaaaages!!! It's like posting the 55 hp build now and call it original... MeSmErIzEr 05:13, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

You know you can solo trap the zaishen theres no need for a team

yh but what happends when u come up against a load of eles? it works better in a team and you dont get elss faaction. The build isnt on PvXwiki so it nice to finally c it here.(who sed it was original) sign comments pls That Twin Tom sigThat Twin Tom 10:40, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

You can't solo trap Zaishen elites (which is what the first sentence says the build is for) and get the 6000 possible faction from it. You could probably go 8 rounds if you're lucky and then you'll just be overwhelmed. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 10:41, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

why is this under PvE?
Well technically NPCs aren't players, so I can see why it's not tagged as PvP. Also, there is no PvP Farming tag afaik, so the "farming" argument in the testing tag yields PvE Farming. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 11:47, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Why qz and ew on #2

I realize that the last FS can be replaced with a nuker variant, but shouldn't #4 have qz somewhere on him also. That way both ew and qz are up alot faster.--UnderImage- (PvP)Gunned 01:29, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

It does work out overall as about the same number of traps.Howe304sigHowe304 10:29, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Trappers speed?

Why use Trappers speed? Serpents Quickness is better for laying down many traps (imo)

Trappers speed: spike barb/viper/smoke/flame traps are 15/1.5 traps, dust/tripwire are 23/2 traps Serpents Quidckness: spike/viper/smoke/flame traps are 13/2 traps, dust/tripwire are 20/3 traps

plus sq reduces the recharge of other skills (beside traps)

Trapper's speed helps activation time. thus more trapping than SQ. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 00:10, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
Its rly cause people dont like taking half a minute laying traps--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 04:13, 28 June 2008 (EDT)
It is also maintainable which helps if you have straglersHowe304sigHowe304 02:47, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

The optional elementalist build should be changed.

Glyph of Sacrifice Meteor Shower Deaths Charge Star Burst Bed of Coals Lava Front Flame Djinn&#039;s Haste Fire Attunement
Beware 20:09, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
y deaths Charge? i dont play eles but u have used that build in Zaishen ELite before and it worked fine, if you think you have a better version by all meens change it.Howe304sigHowe304 02:48, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Zaishen elite

Using a single trapper, I can defeat most teams most of the time in Zaishen challenge. The difficulty is keeping this up against Zaishen elite, where you can get faction faster, and with a lower limit per day. I forget the build I used (I'm at work now), but it had spike trap, damaging traps, viper trap, and winnowing. Max wilderness, high expertise, and the rest in beast mastery (you only really need the extra damage from poison). Spam your traps at the entrance door from the moment you spawn.

This leaves you 3 hero spots to use for better purposes, like coming up with something that works against other teams, or that works when your traps fail. 09:31, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

for zaishen elite it can be done solo with heroes (zaishen challenge is easy solo) however it works best with either 4 trappers and 3 trappers and an ele, it hardly takes ne time to make a team and is way faster which is what matters, y solo if its harder? Howe304sigHowe304 14:28, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Why Sup Rune of Beast Mastery?

Why do all the trappers have a superior rune of beast mastery even when only one of them has viper trap? This is just a waste of health and cud b used for extra energy or health. Shade Stormarrow 03:27, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

they dont do they - if tyhey do ill sort it out. Howe304sigHowe304 16:01, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
lolwut, they dont. they have sup expertise and wilderness...Howe304sigHowe304 16:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
It said they did, under the explanation of each character, I went ahead and changed it. JokerES 11:30, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Why not just echo dust trap? -- Jebuscontests 18:46, 24 November 2008 (EST)

Working Team with one player and 3 Heroes !

well I use this since a long time and it works absolutely perfectly !
you need 3 "fire" Elementalists and/or mesmers heroes with meteor shower and some fire damage,
and you'll play the ranger/ritu with this build :

Attributes and Skills

<pvxbig> [build prof=Ranger/Ritualist WildernessSurvival=11+1+3 Expertise=10+1 communing=10][spike trap][barbed trap][tripwire][brambles][pestilence][healing spring][earthbind][frozen soil][/build] </pvxbig>


  • Armor with energy
  • Weapons : any ; a wand with max energy's the best choice I would say.


  • first of all flag your heroes most backwards from the door,where they can cast their spells on your traps without being too close
  • Put spike and barbed traps against the door but place them so your're sure at least one will trigger(one of each trap is enough !)
    with some experience you'll know where to put them depending on wich map you are
  • then both spirits just behind each trap location ( just a small step behind )
  • then again one step behind and place your third trap : tripwire ...this is just in case enemies resist to first wave of knockdown
  • then run backwards where you flagged heroes and go a bit further than them(if you're in a very small starting place just stay where heroes are)to cast : earthbind (first this one to be sure to have a max lenght knockdown at spike time ),then frozen soil and finally healing spring on the spot where heroes stand to avoid bad surprise.


I use 2 elementalit/Monk with exactly the same build and one mesmer/Ele who's got deepfreeze :

  • the Fire Elementalists :

<pvxbig> [build prof=Elementalist/Monk FireMagic=11+1+3 EnergyStorage=10+1 Protectionprayers=3][glyph of lesser energy][meteor shower][searing flames][searing heat][remove hex][dismiss condition][fire attunement][aura of restoration][/build] </pvxbig>

  • the Mesmer/Ele :

<pvxbig> [build prof=Mesmer/Elementalist FastCasting=11+1+1 FireMagic=12 WaterMagic=5 InspirationMagic=4+1][glyph of lesser energy][deep freeze][meteor shower][savannah heat][breath of fire][power drain][fire attunement][aura of restoration][/build] </pvxbig>

  • You don't need to micro your heroes , just let them do the job ! for their weapons you just have the choice but energy boosts is the best. 05:55, 10 January 2009 (EST)Die For Me Pleaze ( fist time I post something,I normally speak french so exuse me for any miss'spelling ;))

Ele build

Does anybody know how to make a simple ele build lol? its not that hard... simple AoE skills is perfect for E Zaishen.peすeR 06:55, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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