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:::: Not all of the sins need fiery daggers you derpshit. MoP and barbs are viable so stop being a megaprick unless you've somehow managed to deduce every possible event. [[Special:Contributions/|]] 23:39, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::: Not all of the sins need fiery daggers you derpshit. MoP and barbs are viable so stop being a megaprick unless you've somehow managed to deduce every possible event. [[Special:Contributions/|]] 23:39, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::::how about reading first u troll, i decided not to post fiery daggers...lucky ur not banned...log in first smart one.[[User:Lithril|Lithril]] 23:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::::how about reading first u troll, i decided not to post fiery daggers...lucky ur not banned...log in first smart one.[[User:Lithril|Lithril]] 23:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Lithril this is Rask and I was talking to GW<s>pirate</s>'''Faggot''' [[Special:Contributions/|]] 02:07, July 18, 2010 (UTC)
== anyone up for running this? ==
== anyone up for running this? ==

Revision as of 02:07, July 18, 2010

This should be deleted Asap, fail build and it doesnt belong here.

im still editing it u guys ...dont mess with it till im back...Lithril 16:13, July 6, 2010 (UTC) besides u cant edit it untill u know what its for anyway lol...Lithril 16:13, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm very tempted to delete this.... Karate KJ for sig Jesus 16:16, 6 July 2010
Lithril, why didn't you just suggest these bars on the UBKway, then update/name change that one if people thought it was better rather than having multiple versions of this team build because people bitch about small little details? --Samsig 16:20, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
because i tried to and they werent agreed on in the firstplace...i already treid to post them for thoughts before actually editing the original build but someone kept changing them back and blabbing about them being someone called Moxie Java's builds... so i gave up and am deciding to make my own. i have a buddy watching this very page and the builds themselves on MY PAGE to make sure they arent deleted...hes got several backups....aside from that if its for frostmaws what do u guys think about the builds?Lithril 16:30, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
Well, asides from the multiple pages problem. I'd say these builds look alot better than the UBKway builds. --Samsig 16:35, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
yeah im new to making builds so im starting off on my page until i can get a friend to reword the exact instructions i put on my guild site...i want it worded so even noobs can understand it... funny story i will be able to get everythign sorted out hopefully when i return from getting my guitar fixed...plz...i beg of u plz ask what happened...Lithril 16:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
it got chopped with a sword...Lithril 16:57, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
On a lighter note, I just realised it's 15 days till my bday irl. --Samsig 17:36, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
happy early b-day...btw im really new to this making builds stuff on pvxwiki...the code is somewhat difficult but if i dont figure out soon how to make the big skill icons along with a slot for the template code ill soon have to start using a dummy team build and edit it from there...cause the guide for new people to pvxwiki isnt really helpful Lithril 01:13, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
See that button at the top with a signet of capture on it? Click that, it will insert a build template to the page (when in edit mode ofc) If you need to find stuff out, do what I do and go to another page with what you are looking for and press edit and look at the coding. Just don't save anything. :) --Samsig 01:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


im very proud of the work i put into it. took some instructions from the unbreakable way...same way ur supposed to do it...but hey... what u guys think? Lithril 03:27, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it better?

To have 2 Unseen Fury instead because it is already overkill with MoP because that would reduce damage by a lot not that it won't work.

made a minor problem with naming it...Ashway isnt realy specific to what its for... im moving it to a Frostmaw's Ashway. and no its not overkill. only about 6 seconds ill make some minor edits after it becomes meta(if ever) then well decide if were taking out a Twin. Lithril 03:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


I totally screwed that up lol. Update Build:Team - Frostmaw Sinway and put it into testing--Relyk talk 05:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC) lol can u fix it back to Ashway? i mean not necesarrily sins but eles can do it too...we just did a test run...if u can(cause im a noob at codes on pvxwiki) change it back to Frostmaws Ashway...ty Lithril 05:22, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

nvm thanks anyway i fixed the name i got the hang of it... u should come along with us was really fun 2 of us got a q12 silver wing and other got bow of kin..Lithril 05:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


got it done 45 mins with a newb team. can easily get it done in 30 or less... only prob is incubus but still heh.. pvxwiki comm can figure out something. Lithril 05:23, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

got it figured out, looked in the old archived buidls and remade a few things from the old frostmaws sinway, they were on to something, remade its build and made it more team friendly in case some people were having problems with incubus.

Lithril 02:11, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


some people were indeed correct, however one unseen fury was needed, we took 7 people in it. now what were thinking about is having a dwaynas sorrow and an aegis A/Mo with Unseen fury and have the other unseen fury go as something else. but were working on it. post ideas on this headline with builds? Lithril 16:57, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


What triggers it?--GWPirate 21:21, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

the MoP can be taken or not, its reccomended that u bring the equipment given hence the Fiery Daggers of enchant for fast IAS which will trigger MoR AND MoP dishing out some AOE dmg and keeping ur target burning.Lithril 21:31, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
How will fire damage from your fiery daggers trigger the physical damage requirement of MoP?--GWPirate 16:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

lol @ the run times 40min? i think this page should be deleted and the builds should be moved to the pre nerf frostmaw sinway page atleast like shadow relyk said. That way no one can claim it on wiki. So it truly becomes free to the public. --FbtG 23:16, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

then go take Sinway out of archives loudmouth...that old build was sinway this is different and in some cases elementalists would be able to do it as well...hell probably even better, in which case it wont be sinway. so go....shoo,go unarchive itLithril 01:32, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
If anyone does try to claim builds we tell them to gtfo anyway. --Samsig 18:01, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
doesnt matter anyway lol i pasted a reference from my guild site. i built it, i posted it, i tested it, even though its clear as day the rules of pvxwiki stating that all buidls are theres its quite obvious it was on my guild site before pvxwiki...anyhoo...daggers are physical...adding an elemental dmg to those daggers wont change a fact that they are still physical, just try to auto attack Aatxe with fiery daggers...and wait till hit by ripostle...still melee too.Lithril 01:27, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Yes but there's a difference between physical and elemental. Slashing, piercing, and blunt are physical damage types, all others are elemental. By putting a fiery dagger tang on your daggers, you cause them to no longer trigger mop, barbs, etc. Test it in gtob.--TahiriVeila 04:59, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Also ranged attacks like attacks from a bow or spear could as physical damage (as long as they aren't elemental) and will trigger MoP, and ranged attacks wont trigger ripostes. --Samsig 07:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
fine so true...ill add an option for players to take either Zealous OR Fiery Dagger Tangs, its only what they feel comfortable with.Lithril 15:23, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


i appreciate all the whispers guys wanting to go on a test run with me n all but im not on nor able most of the time.

Mr Majuub Stygian Avenger

theyll take u more than likely they are some guildies that love this. Lithril 22:41, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Cleaned up the build layout and the was a mess and the descriptions weren't even close to formal instructions.--TahiriVeila 05:20, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

IGNORE THIS LAST MESSAGE. JUST GOT pirates message during disc edit.

thanks for the cleanup guys, imma post zealous Or fiery dagger tangs, whichever the players feel comfortable with. Lithril 15:24, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Whats wrong with you? Fire damage doesnt trigger things that trigger on physical damage. Let me rephrase this for you another time: Fire Damage=Elemental Damage, Elemental Damage=/=Physical damage. Comprende?--GWPirate 15:20, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
decided not to.Lithril 23:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

gww:Damage_type C:\PvX>Abort, Retry, Panic?Panic Sig Cursor 18:12, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Not all of the sins need fiery daggers you derpshit. MoP and barbs are viable so stop being a megaprick unless you've somehow managed to deduce every possible event. 23:39, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
how about reading first u troll, i decided not to post fiery daggers...lucky ur not banned...log in first smart one.Lithril 23:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Lithril this is Rask and I was talking to GWpirateFaggot 02:07, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

anyone up for running this?

i mean the builds is in testing and the majority of the pvxwiki community only looks at great or good sections. we need to get this out there and running. running it with guildies isnt getting us anywhere. play ball!! Lithril 15:41, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Try sticking it up on the featured section on the main page. Then the people that don't know what recent changes is should see it. --Samsig 19:02, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
how?Lithril 23:52, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
Template:Featured builds Here, have a read of this on how to feature builds :) --Samsig 14:54, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

heard about it

someone whispers me, think it was Rask...saying theres a way to instakill Frostmaw with one of the boulders...if anyone would be kind to explain this to me or edit it in the walk through on #5 of the build page it would be much appreciated...Lithril 14:22, July 10, 2010 (UTC) Sent To You From My Mobile.

Well basically, on level 5 get everyone to stand by the very last boulder that leads into FMaws room (by 'by the boulder' I mean do that if someone was to come melee you they would get hit by the boulder but you wouldn't.) Then get one person to go in FMaws room and spawn 'him/her/it' then lure 'him/her/it' out towards everyone else, it takes a few up/downs of FMaw, but it's alot quicker than killing 'him/her/it' any other way. I remember a friend of mine used to do 600/smite FMaws in like 30 mins ((Shay) or Macadamian) told me to stand back and watch, I was a little sceptical but it worked >.< --Samsig 14:53, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
Frostmaw is a her. :3 --Short 15:42, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 :) --Samsig 16:16, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

You basically just get someone to pull frostmaw out to the snowballs and the roll over her and she dies. Then you clear out the siege worms and grab chest gg--TahiriVeila 16:45, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Build:A/E Frostmaw Runner, you can do it level 1 and i think lvl 2 with that stationary buulder as well. Ive never tried it though--Relyk talk 19:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Not so happy member of BonD..

Hey anyone, i'm a meber of BonD Alliance. We are a few who don't understand how Fmaw Bond way ended up here on pvx, and we aren't very happy about it either. Stealing our build isen't quit a nice thing to do, a pm or asking first would have bin great. Other wise i wanna say, that which is more mystical is that niether of the fmaw ways, is the way we do it in BonD alliance, but close. We use defrind builds indeed, still someone stole the ground idear of the build. Ashame indeed, but ofcouse one guild can't keep there build and so to them selves, and anyone can go make builds and take builds and so. Still i'm sure a pm ingame or anything like that, would have cheered up those mates, who actulie spended ingame money and time on making those builds.The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk • contribs) .

Dude it's a fucking game. Builds don't belong to anyone and the whole purpose of pvx is finding the best builds in the game and making them available to everyone. It doesn't matter if you were the first one to have the idea for a build, whether you set a record with it, or whether you're awful at it. If it's a good build pvx is GOING to find it and you need to get over that.--TahiriVeila 17:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
Also, do you really think no-one would have EVER thought about using this combo of skills? Damage cap on SF means people thought of ways to do lots of small packets of damage quickly like Sand Shards/Bed of Coals, and as SS may not have killed the wurms they thought of using MoRodgort+BoCoals. --Samsig 18:45, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
"online game experiance may vary"Lithril 03:13, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

BonD didnt even start this build so they need to get a clue that no one cares, BonD is made up of people who copycat builds from other guilds and alliances that they jump in run with to learn from, then they try to take the credit from the original people. If your in BonD then you must like being a fake.


I get these messages but far worse in game messages from so called makers of this build. What he said... Not any one build is yours(though the hechman skill bar contest used builds in the war in kryta and took some of the best builds that people submitted) no matter what do you honestly think that 2,000,000+ players didn't think of it... Come on. I post this and get RED ENGINE GO RED ENGINE GO'd because some kid is pissed that he's not the genious he though he was. Stop messaging me in game unless it's not fussing at me plz qq moar. Plz if anyone wants to flame me again or my very good pvxwiki friends helpin keep this community and build up, go tell anadmin before u do so I know ur banned

Lithril 19:13, July 13, 2010 (UTC) ps read rules first about posting or ranting a players

"the hechman skill bar contest used builds in the war in kryta" don't you mean the other way around? and the henchman skill bars were all just copypasted from pvx. otherwise challenging 10 year olds to rage at you is a bad idea.--Relyk talk 03:43, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
yeah other way around... Some were copied off PVC but like I said some were also used from top builds anet might thought annoying... Instance of z fact I never saw it on wiki(not saying I'm only one to have made it)but the white mantle enforcer used my annoying mosquito sin build, the one with d accuracy. All skills were same. I even tried submitting it to the henchman contest bit lost :/... Anyway point is nothing in the game is yours it's just pixels, ur big the tenuous u think u are and no ones heard of BonD alliance. U want to annoy someone go play WoW. gg.Lithril 04:50, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
are you talking about this one?--Relyk talk 06:00, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
yeah but no. Nearly same but it's not it now that I glance at it. I'm having gw withdrawals save meeeee!!!!Lithril 11:36, July 14, 2010 (UTC)


stop it mkai, we know you're butthurt(who ever is, probaly them "so called makers of this team"). --Bio. 16:47, July 15, 2010 (UTC) agreed. imma get some admins on here soon if this crap doesnt stop, this whole entire page is about flaming me for posting it, not the discussion of the build itself.Lithril 17:13, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

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