Talk: Team - HA IWAY

~~easily counters teaseway with 3 5 second casts which provide half of it's pressure eh?^_^ Brandnew. 08:21, 13 February 2009 (EST)~~

all of which are not spells. Brandnew. 08:21, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Tease and CoF work on skills, dum nob. Ricky vantof 08:23, 13 February 2009 (EST)

^^^ two skills, not everyone brings cof either. and u have oath shot.. ..LJ.. 08:29, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Usually 2Tease and 1CoF. Fire Magic fucks over your spirits, too. Ricky vantof 08:33, 13 February 2009 (EST)

no, fire magic doesnt. Only a dipshit would put spirits anywhere near each other ..LJ.. 08:37, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Most eles bring 3 Heats. crazy

cow 08:41, 13 February 2009 (EST)

an ele who wastes all their skills trying to kill spiri will come back faster than their recharge, is dumb. well if your backline isnt dumb and doesnt stand in the middle of everything. ..LJ.. 08:50, 13 February 2009 (EST)

An ele who keeps the spirits down is smart by crippling the healers preventing condition removal, and large heals without drawbacks.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon

08:58, 13 February 2009 (EST)

"If you see a build submitted by Lukejohnson, I strongly suggest that you trash vote it because it's probably terrible." ---Ch aos- 08:53, 13 February 2009 (EST)

like the LA sin? ..LJ.. 08:55, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Obvious build was obvious. Brandnew. 09:00, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Lol, an ele just targetting your spirits is actually very smart, as the spirits are ALL your pressure and ALL your defense (well, your n/rt's rely on them) Ricky vantof 09:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)

they're ele rits. ---Ch aos- 09:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)

...even worse Ricky vantof 09:13, 13 February 2009 (EST)

"an ele who wastes all their skills trying to kill spiri will come back faster than their recharge, is dumb. well if your backline isnt dumb and doesnt stand in the middle of everything. ..LJ.. 08:50, 13 February 2009 (EST)" What the hell? Your spirits

~~If they'd be good he wouldn't use it.~~ Ether Prism is better against team spikes than solo sinspikes. ---Ch aos- 09:20, 13 February 2009 (EST)

You have at least 4 available corpses early in the game, so not takning animate bone minions and n/rt's is just stupid. Ricky vantof 09:20, 13 February 2009 (EST)

"an ele who wastes all their skills trying to kill spiri will come back faster than their recharge, is dumb. well if your backline isnt dumb and doesnt stand in the middle of everything. ..LJ.. 08:50, 13 February 2009 (EST)" What the hell? Heats recharge faster than every spirit in that build except Life. crazycow 09:45, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Oath Shot. ---Ch aos- 09:46, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Ok, I didn't see that. But Rodgort's. crazy

cow 09:53, 13 February 2009 (EST)

An ele can spam rodgort's for a bit, but it gets energy intensive.even with gole..LJ.. 09:59, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Right about when your team is dead. ---Ch aos- 10:02, 13 February 2009 (EST)

oh. and dont gorget the -12 energy denial going around every 8~ seconds ..LJ.. 10:04, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Good thing eles have about 70 energy :> Ricky vantof 10:09, 13 February 2009 (EST)

how often do u play ele spamming rodgort's on recharge with having -12 energy on your every 8ish seconds ?..LJ.. 10:14, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Lmao? Anti-tease way where everyone gangs around 1 ele with WoS/WoW on it. ---Ch aos- 10:22, 13 February 2009 (EST)

........................... wtf? Heard of nearby range? ..LJ.. 10:25, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Nearby is the size of a ward. You assume everyone stands in 1 ward when you put it up? ---Ch aos- 14:35, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Stop being fucking retarded every single fire ele goes spirit hunting in HA. Not that it means spirit spam doesn't work. Rawrawr Dinosaur 10:44, 13 February 2009 (EST)

saw this win halls on multiple occacions, does this mean it's good or just dead hours or brave players were on it?

Yeah, even teaseway has one fire ele, and some of your spirits will get killed... mind you, if they use up their firepower on the spirits then the spirits aren't completely wasted, and once QZ is up even killing it will take more energy.

(@ Ricky) Btw, pets stopped leaving usable corpses like half a year ago, so you're gonna have a job making Bone Minions out of them... 86.31.159.72 17:18, 13 February 2009 (EST)

Aw, right, good update, fucken heroway :> Ricky vantof 08:49, 14 February 2009 (EST)

PnH+Tranq makes me sad. JebusMcPachirisu 09:36, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Yea PnH is totally for the 5 second enchantment after it cleans someone

Frosty po! 09:42, 15 February 2009 (EST)

TBH, this actually doesn't look like a bad IWAY build.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon 10:27, 15 February 2009 (EST)

TBH, u bad. Ricky vantof 10:44, 15 February 2009 (EST)

"TBH, this actually doesn't look like a bad IWAY build." never said it was a good overall build, just a good IWAY build.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon

11:51, 15 February 2009 (EST)

My jinglebear told me this IWAY is bad so it must be bad Ricky vantof 10:51, 15 February 2009 (EST)

A BUILD BASED AROUND GETTING YOUR PETS KILLED. WHAT. THE. FUCK. ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS??!? Ricky vantof 11:07, 15 February 2009 (EST)

That concept seemed to work pretty well for 2 years.--IkimonoNeeds more Paragon

11:52, 15 February 2009 (EST)

rhetorical conversation ftl Jebus

McPachirisu 11:24, 15 February 2009 (EST)

how do you figure? ---Ch aos- 11:27, 15 February 2009 (EST)

Honestly, I love how because LJ posts this build everyone automatically says its bad, its pretty much the biggest show of Autism I have seen on this wiki yet (aside from Amorbot Terrorize) Frosty po! 22:52, 18 February 2009 (EST)

But no! It must be bad, why would everyone then be starting to run it, and i even have a welcome template saying my builds are trash? no? ..LJ.. 05:38, 19 February 2009 (EST)

Lol this is pretty much the main meta. gogogo ^The

_Wojo 22:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

And for once this wiki had the meta build up just before it became meta. ..LJ.. 12:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I hope you find solace in the fact that one of your actions may or may not have made the game even more shit. ~

Tycn 12:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

tbh this is a great build, look at the synergies!!!! the synergies!!

No. i like IWAY. who cares if it's shit to play against, it's fun ..LJ.. 12:46, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

sign ffs ---Ch aos- 10:22, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

lots of non build related crap moved to User_talk:Lukejohnson

changed "can't touch this" to "brace yourself" on the pnh, fall back is being run as well. because tbh "can't touch this" is pretty fail on anything other than mc hammer.(now with signature)134.109.89.1 08:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

NO. but it is now with IWAY meta. And Also counter's shock on PR wars. but meh ..LJ.. 11:17, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

what about bull's strike on 1 warr instead of agonizing? helps a lot in general but especially chasing runners.... - 420 20:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

??? you have brage. and when they're running they aren't healing. and when they stop. you dchop ..LJ.. 20:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

true yes that's how it works, but u could BS & make them totally useless for 3 sec & get 3sec of free dmg/adren, then dchop immediately when they get up to heal, same difference rly but more dmg. plus like i said, makes it that much easier to catch relic/runners if u get that far/care. -

420 20:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Ranger

Am I missing something or are the ranger atts impossible? Would have to be exp=11, wild=11, earth=8, right? Also, I can't help but think Predatory Season would be great if it could fit, maybe instead of Tranquility? - 420 18:39, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. no ..LJ.. 18:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

iirc pred season was broken so it triggered twice when orders were up, so it's not all that good now, still good though. Maybe add veriants for dshot, the bad player pugs run dusttrap instead. Oh and weapon of shadow is prefered over li ming on the rit. 134.109.89.1 19:12, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

that's coz mi ling sucks balls. and no1 with a brain runs it. And dust trap works against all the pug enemy teams that use wars/sins to attack your spirits, oh. and against the meta. which would be IWAY ..LJ.. 19:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

When you use bull's strike, it will end battle rage, making you lose all adrenaline.

Battle rage got updated lol. Rawrawr Dinosaur 20:11, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

And even better, no Bull's in the bars. ---Ch aos- 20:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

read the discussion imo134.109.89.1 21:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

That being related to what? ---Ch aos- 08:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

bull's strike is being discussed as an alternative in the warriors' bars, that's why the anon mentioned it. so saying it isn't in the bar(yet) doesn't make sense134.109.89.1 08:35, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

The anon sucks at inserting comments where they belong... And I don't think people run this with bstrike. 33% ims kinda does the caching of foes if necessary. ---Ch aos- 09:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Add d-shot back into the oath ranger, it's too good for fucking with ele's and ps sins that camp you. Dust trap is nice but gl using that much if you're keeping QZ up. Also, consider using natty stride over whirling defense or at least list as alternative. Great mobility skill especially with 12 in wilderness. Zero 13:00, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

First point - down to preference tbh. i would ratehr have both as optional than 1 mainbar. As dsot does little say, against iway. Dshotting their spirits does nothing. And Whirling is better, and can eb kept up almost constant, and more blockign tbh — LukeJohnson

17:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

iway still isn't that common and dshot wtfpwnz everything else(and dshot on warding still hurts), one could argue against dshot though that most people that run iway rangers can't really nail interrupts. 134.109.89.1 17:23, 24 February 2009 (UTC)