Talk: Team - Hero Physway

Revision as of 10:10, 4 May 2010

Rolls PvE Like a baws. MinionExcluded 14:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

What about pets for extra MoP triggers and body blocking? Necromas 15:21, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

There's been a spot of testing with that idea; but the problem is lack of heals for the pets. They'll be under constant attack due to not being under SY! and the rangers will rarely be able to use skills properly due to heal-spamming their pet. However, you could swap one of them for a pet variant, but not all three. Minion

Excluded 16:21, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

I dont really see the point of having a 6hero build that is so restrictive on the human players build/prof Notorious BW 19:46, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The N/A is restricted, but the other physical isn't. I'd put EBSoH on the MoP Nuker, though. ــѕт.мıкε 19:59, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

The profession for the physical is restrictive but the build it has to run is Notorious BW 00:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hex Removal

Is the only thing lacking here... I suppose something can be placed on the ER and MB when necessary. MinionExcluded 16:39, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Slap two hex removals on the MM, durrrrr--Digital

Fear 23:08, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

i likes my mb to run utility elites like Emp removal with phys around and as i dont find aotl to be that good either tbh :( >>Jayson<<< 16:03, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

In alot of areas I run "It's Just a Flesh Wound!" as my MB's elite. Just depends on area/difficulty of mobs.Minion

Excluded 20:53, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

why not an imbagon? hello? has more party support and also can have EBSoH.--Bluetapeboy 21:49, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

You can have an imbagon, but that would fix the secondary human's profession to a Paragon. Minion

Excluded 22:27, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

ranger heroes lol--Relyk _talk 02:03, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Changing them to paragon for stability when I can be bothered. Minion

Excluded 02:16, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Looks alot more realistic now. However, the ranger heroes do actually work very well, they just aren't as stable as paragon; but manage to make mobs blow up before anything threatening reaches them. Minion

Excluded 12:17, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

MoP Nuker Skills

Enfeebling blood instead of reckless haste for normal mode. And weaken armor would be nice, not just for damage but it would allow the physicals to bring body shot or chest thumper. Necromas 14:28, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reckless haste is used as a fish hex/cover hex against mobs with hex removal; it's effect of damage mitigation is just a bonus. However, if you don't need Rigor Mortis, you can take Enfeebling if you really want. Also Cracked Armour is pointless because a big percentage of the damage is armour ignoring,(e.g. OoV, Barbs, MoP, EbsoH, Splinter/Nightmare).Minion

Excluded 16:33, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just checked out the skills you suggested. The rangers manage their energy via zealous bow/incendiary arrows when running low, so no need for Body Shot. Chest thumper causes single-target daze, though Warmonger Weapon does this also, and better when occasionally used with Incendiary. Keep the ideas coming though. Minion

Excluded 16:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Chest thumper is deep wound. Necromas 17:57, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oops yeah; I misremembered in the space of five minutes... Brilliant. Well, you already have Vicious Attack x2 and GFTE. But if you really want Deep Wound you can take "Finish Him!" on the MoP.Minion

Excluded 18:01, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion

Replace the OotV necro with [1] and put necessary weapon spells minion master. Would support adrenaline gain and gives room for enfeebling blood and shadow of fear / meekness. Would especially shine on the paragon variant. Also two things: lack of redbar and lack of hex removal. Hexbreaker aria is a very little of use in physical heavy team (unable to remove hexes from physicals). Was the ER infuser able to keep you standing (supported by OotV, vigorous spirit and blood bond)? T u u k k a 05:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

also death nova + OotV is great synergy - you'll get it cast on you whether you want it or not in the event your health drops a bit. - AthrunFeya

- 07:51, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I had been using both variants for vanquishing most of Elona end-areas, even before the buff to Blood Bond; had been using Mark of Fury in it's place.If you want extra adrenaline gain, that's what you want really. Free cracked armour if you *really* want it, too. the OoV problem isn't often apparent when there are minions visible, and the paragon/rangers are generally targeted last as the one spamming SY! will have the lowest AL. I admit it's a flaw; but OoV is pretty much required to run a one-healer team like this without being super-safe; hiding behind spirits, luring small mobs, etc... If these methods must be used for success I'd rather change build.Minion

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 Replace the OotV necro with [http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:E/N_Ether_Renewal_Orders] and put necessary weapon spells minion master. Would support adrenaline gain and gives room for enfeebling blood and shadow of fear / meekness. Would especially shine on the paragon variant. Also two things: lack of redbar and lack of hex removal. Hexbreaker aria is a very little of use in physical heavy team (unable to remove hexes from physicals). Was the ER infuser able to keep you standing (supported by OotV, vigorous spirit and blood bond)?  [[User:Tuukka|<span style="color:#FF3300;">T</span> <span style="color:#CC9900;">u</span> <span style="color:#00CC00;">u</span> <span style="color:#0099FF;">k</span> <span style="color:#0000CC;">k</span> <span style="color:#9900CC;">a</span>]] 05:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 :also death nova + OotV is great synergy - you'll get it cast on you whether you want it or not in the event your health drops a bit. - [[User:Athrun Feya|<font color="SteelBlue">''Athrun''</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">'''''Feya'''''</font>]] [[Image:Lau_bfly.gif]] - 07:51, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
+::Yes, I had been using both variants for vanquishing most of Elona end-areas, even before the buff to Blood Bond; had been using Mark of Fury in it's place.If you want extra adrenaline gain, that's what you want really. Free cracked armour if you *really* want it, too. the OoV problem isn't often apparent when there are minions visible, and the paragon/rangers are generally targeted last as the one spamming SY! will have the lowest AL. I admit it's a flaw; but OoV is pretty much required to run a one-healer team like this without being super-safe; hiding behind spirits, luring small mobs, etc... If these methods must be used for success I'd rather change build.[[User:Excluded|<b><font color="green">Minion</font></b>]][[File:Minion_sig_k_bish.jpg|19px]][[User Talk:Excluded|<font color="black">Excluded</font>]] 10:10, May 4, 2010 (UTC)