Main question: is this better than sin's speedbooking?--ValeV 13:28, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
- I've never had a sin run me but i do my books in 8 minutes and its really easy, just die and flag and the heroes do all the work.Epicfail86 20:54, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
- Guru Thread --- Generally faster, don't have to pay someone else.. ya that's better. Doc roboto 07:52, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
video --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:19, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
- video+Build:Any/A ATFH Runner=speedbook--Relyk talk 04:59, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
- Any/A doesnt have monk so I needed to invent something =P --- Ressmonkey (talk) 20:26, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
how does the fire not kill them..
this is genius when killing the great destroyer with my ele i took golden fox strike and golden fang strike for the deepwound. flag heros so they dont stand in the fire 20k faction nm 1 and a half hours (first try at speedbooking)
ya, i've figured that part out.. but now i cant figure out why im dying in hm
- Watch videos. There're loads of them. I think both builds (this and a/e speedbooking) should be in great.--ValeV 06:18, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
Does HM work?
- This is for HM.--ValeV 19:24, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
This Works
This works perfectly. Can be done with any profession. 5-5 Rikk Panda {a.k.a. Benny Lava} 
08:45, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
You are right, I tested it myself too! Works great :D GJ! --Jorre22225 13:20, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
Tested works a treat! nom nom nom e-vangaurd here I come! --Tristansmum 8:55, febbruary 2, 2010 (UTC)
HM
It's just a detail, but maybe it should be mentioned on the page that it's for HM (even if it's obvious...)
Video?
Sounds great - if I understand correctly this can be done with any profession, not just sin. Would it be possible to post a video of the heroes in action?
- See the comment I made above (4th comment on talk page). --- Ressmonkey (talk) 20:26, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
- Great vid.. will answer most questions. Well worth a look. -- Doc roboto 22:26, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
Vetting..?
Should this be moved to vetting now? We've established that this works, and works well. There are no more minor changes to made. Anyone else with me? --Saberhagen
(My Talk) 18:05, February 2, 2010 (UTC)
? about doing ATFH with Warrior
Maybe I'm just not very good, but trying the warrior build with ATFH, and have only come close to completing once. Take too much damage too quickly, not sure what I'm doing wrong. The other 2 quests are extremely easy to do and very fast.
- Are you sure you got all runes etc? I've got no experience doing this with a warrior, but I do with an Assassin. I use the builds from the A/Any Speedbooking for ATFH. They still work great if you use all runes, so you might try it out. You could also try to take you're favorite warrior build, with some monk regeneration skills, so you're having enough regeneration. (Try healing breeze) Take YMLAD and you're other attack skills. Beside you could try Shadows Refuge.
84.85.178.203 19:10, February 5, 2010 (UTC)
- I had a bit of trouble with this until I added all the runes to my heroes, but once I did that the suggested warrior build (OQcSE5OT2kdPHMNMvl0kwF8V) worked fine. The only change I made to it was to move YMLAD to slot 1 so I can hit the key quicker and more accurately. It even handles 1 Deeds with no problem. Double check that your heath is as low as possible (be sure to use a strength+3 as one of the runes to lower your heath for the extra armor penetration), and that your heroes have the right runes. Beyond that I don't know what could be happening. So far the only problem I've encountered with this strategy is finding the spots to get the Nornbear to spawn but not attack. For some reason the spots in the images aren't working for me, but he is still easy and quick enough to fight. --207.47.204.252 00:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, im new here but about that last few posts where the warrior couldn't do it, i got a build that i've been using. [OQMT02oSVym8t0uQoQwoTjmckAA] hasn't failed me yet. 82.18.120.177 13:11, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the build, works perfectly. I guess it was me being stupid. Thanks for the help.
Build:Any/A ATFH Runner--Relyk talk 22:38, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
Curse of the Nornbear
This works really great and I've made some nice reputation points with it. But after doing this a while I am having lots of trouble with Curse of the Nornbear at the start. When de Mandragors spawn they usually kill my whole party. I take the 3 heroes (with runes etc.) + 2 Monks heroes + 2 Elementalists. Also tried one Warrior instead of 1 Elementalis, but they still seem to kill the whole party. Sometimes they kill only 2/3 people of my party and their dead themselves, but it's annoying as hell to continuously resign this mission till I can kill them. So Does anybody have some tips on for me? ^^
The other missions don't give trouble at all. :) 84.85.178.203 14:20, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Get all your spirits up before you aggro. Makes it quick and easy. Doc roboto 20:56, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
I made a build that uses any Primary and the dervish secondary. Can anyone tell me how to post it? Oh and it's just for the ATFH with the monk bonders that where used for the original A/D 105 way. Kendor69 15:55,February 10, 2010 (EST)
- Read through the info available (how-to, FAQs etc). Everything you need to know is in there. The main question you would have to address would be 'is it faster than */A?'.Doc roboto 22:05, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
Find their weakness
Hey this build is really great and I've maxed my Delver title last week. Yet I'm not really speedbooking, I'm more vanquishing, but that doesn't matter... xD
What I want to say.. Since I've been using this build I've had loads of trouble with the mandragors at the spawn of Curse of the Nornbear. So I asked on the video about this hero speedbooking what could help me out. So somebody told me to change 'Find their weakness' to "Never Surrender" and "Stand Your Ground". These give your heroes extra armor and some regeneration. I don't know if it helps that much, but my heroes die much less times at the mandragor.
Also I say you take 2 monks instead of 1. You really need this heal, especially at the mandragors. Also like somebody above this message said, put up your spirits before engaging.
Anyways, thanks for this great build! I like this much more then speedbooking with a permasin!
Greetz
82.168.185.27 18:02, February 17, 2010 (UTC)