Fix it

You should fix the bars, it's earth prayers not earth magic --tÜrae£xy 18:41, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Also they are A/D not A/P --Samsig 19:11, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

Eucalypto: Fixed the error in N/A, Curses now at 10+3+1, not possible 12+3+1, because soul is at 8+1 and shadow 12

"Max shield Q. Command +10vs spike (for Fendi)" Is "spike" supposed to be piercing damage? Kind of confusing.

Yes, indeed, I fixed it, thanks for noticing. Please also remember to sign your posts! Gevalle Engel 07:04, March 10, 2010 (UTC)


My guild and I used to do the 600/smite way for this and it was definately a lot more user friendly then this but at the same time this is a much faster way to do the dungeon.--Jakool3 20:00, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Remove this build quickly.. before anet get wind of it.. :P.. works perfectly by the way.. actually faster than pre-nerf. --Saifon 18:26, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Just tested this in a PUG and it worked perfectly, 12minutes 3rd level. We had a few more deaths than pre-nerf and you had to manage more skills while running but overall the build is good.

Necro optional

Ran this build with the A/P in Gevalle's screenshot, who claims to have made this build, without the N/A, so it may be optional. 11 min lvl 3. 02:12, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Would be stupid to claim it as my own, it's pretty much the same as the old A/N for SoO except for foul feast... The idea from the team build came from Obsidian Fox, like you said. And yeah, like in prenerf, the necro is completely optional. Though you might want to take it to remove blind now, and maybe other conditions too... And nice run, 11mins, gj. Fox rules! ;) Gevalle Engel 07:40, March 4, 2010 (UTC)


Why no EBSOH? When we were testing it we didnt seem to get close to the SF damage cap.Lia Shunpo 14:33, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah difinately use honor.. possibly over wisdom.. it's much faster for fendi --Saifon 21:58, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you can let one of the sins that's not bringing anything, take it with him. Think in the screen you can actually see we did that. So, yeah, you can take it, don't even have to leave Wisdom out for it. I'll put it in. ;) Gevalle Engel 08:23, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

The 11 min 3rd lvl above was with one ebsoh, one ebsow, one ebsoc 17:47, March 5, 2010 (UTC)


The AoE from Sandstormd. Doesn't it make the foes scatter? If so, the build is useless.--37er 13:35, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

oh, or you wall-trick block em, but you can't do that with da bauss --37er 13:37, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
You've never done this before, have you? (old or new). Yes, Fendi is blocked too. 17:47, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
oh yes i remember, but hes bloacjed in the middle of the room, i was thinking about walls hehe, btw ive done some runs, not a lot tho, like 5 or 6--37er 19:00, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have found it much easier to use N/A and then all three of the the ebons, this is a pug time run i did.


First bds since nerf?

First bds drop I've seen since nerf... Was a 14mins 3th floor, we had a disconnect team m8... could have been faster since he was the one with ebsoh... ahwell, gratz to Karagon and his Q11 Dom BDS! Gevalle Engel 21:34, March 5, 2010 (UTC)



why triptofan and you are all weaklings?I found it kinda useless.HOWever this build is a nice way to get your BDS since the nerf-- 23:53, March 6, 2010 (UTC)-- 23:53, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Tryp is to make grouped mobs slow down (duh), but mainly to reduce their attack speed. The "weaklings!" you use, well I do, when you run and get melee on your tail so they won't hit for alot. But the original idea to put it in came from the 2nd floor where you have to kill the enchanted axes, those can give a nasty spike and possibly killing some of your team. "Weaklings!" would prevent that from happening. It's also usefull for other grouped mobs, so it's a nice and very usefull skill imo. Gevalle Engel 09:23, March 7, 2010 (UTC)


Whats the point of bringing ebon battle standard of courage if everyone has conviction? Dr Rawr 22:57, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

stacks 03:16, March 20, 2010 (UTC)


So... this D/A variant ... can't bring any eotn optional, can't bring mystic regen, all for an extra ~2 dps? 17:24, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

But now more than just sins would be coming? Vennie 00:34, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
Too bad everyone has a sin for just such runs already--Relyk talk 04:41, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
Actually the damage would be lower because of sfDr Rawr 13:37, March 21, 2010 (UTC)
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