Build talk:Team - UW Terraway

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Can the terra sins/eles still do this with the sliver nurf?

A/Me chamber

is the A/Me chamber entirely safe? i tested it by using triple bonders to mimic the EMO but they also used regen bonds and i think unless u spam SR ur dead, may be slightly difficult, maybe its because i didnt use a full conset, but it just seems a little unsafe. and sry my username is messed up XD

Me and a friend did a run with it....it works so nice. a standard bonder sucks tho. So it's at the moment not the best for PuG's cuz not many ele bonders around. Falrach 05:50, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

did u have to spam SR with it?

I didn't even use it....I changed EN for Arcane Echo and SR for GDA. max hit from aatxes was 3 or sumtin. Falrach 05:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

GDA?

This

dang i still cant get it to work properly, but back on topic of the all builds, i think the Lt is apparently the hardest job, and i always did chamber in dayway and old UWSC ( ialways did EMO too) but does the E/Me Lt tank currently on page work without visages? im just wondering. Commandercm

I don't see any Visages other than what is in the pictures/variants. So the answer is yes, they work without. -- 01:16, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

The Ele LT sometimes has problems when he is unlucky with the adrenaline, when they time Fear Me! with alot of interrupts on stoneflesh, and if he gets interrupted ur ded. Falrach 05:43, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

cool someone changed LT to an A/Me, now maybe pvx bound PUGS will run it Commandercm

what does the Chamber-Bonder do at dhuum? Die? Or does he tank dhuum now? 79.203.93.178 13:06, April 14, 2010 (UTC)

die --Pryon 18:52, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

vale emo question

where does the emo stand at the beginning of wrathfull and how many spirits do you have to bond? --Pryon 14:51, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

roughly around where the group closest the reaper spawns. I always try to bond a whole group of spirits or whatever is nearby. Really, energy shouldn't be a problem. 71.146.65.151 21:26, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Video

Is there any tutorial for the e/mo vale or lab team?--67.10.187.229 01:04, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not yet but im sure there will be one soon, geor said he might do LT next --Pryon 12:50, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Required Weapon

the SoS is recomended to have "Weapon: any enchanting +20% weapon whit +20 Energy" but does not have a enchantment in its skill bar... so why is this weapon needed?

And what about the Nec? Does the SS have enough energy or is a zealous spear required? Acalia Draken 13:32, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

T1 (Wastes)

How do you do the Waste quest? like in detail

PuG's put the LT or T4 (if A/Me) at king, to kill skeles, a terra as center tank, he aggroes everything excepts skeles. they put at both sides a terra that hides from skele fire to stuck the skeles. when everything's popped LT/T4 kills skeles, after that center tank balls all and LT/T4+SS kill. savvy? btw, on guru there's a map, at dayway threat. Falrach 05:44, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

ok so im kinda confused as to what the wastes sins job is after poping reaper.... do you just farm or what?? i cant seem to find any vids on it either... all comments help thanks Too Late To Run 5-18-10

as T1 you do escort after clearing quest area. But if Lab team already took UWG you can farm till they are done. Then do it after UWG. For escort, make sure to pull mindblades away. Falrach 06:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Why does Pits use Brawler's Insignias?

I noticed how the Pits Tank is using Brawler's Insignias as opposed to Nightstalker's Insignias. They both only affect the character while attacking, but Nightstalker's gives +5 armor compared to Brawler's Insignias. Any specific reason as to why that is the case? --Wolfdm3 17:10, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Blessed Insignias would also be an alternative to Brawler's, since you wouldn't have to melee in order to have increased armor at all times.--Wolfdm3 23:41, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Someone's a cheapskate? No good reason. Use nightstalkers. 71.146.65.151 01:09, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Builds and Armor

This section is meant to have a better overview in the discussion about the builds.

Labyrinth Team

• / Shadow Form tank

He should have 105 hp armor. Shouldn't that be on the page to? And if you use Mental Block, Shadow Refuge isn't needed. And can anyone put the E/Me version on the page? F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

105 hp is for nabs. Standard health, only SoD as heal and you should be fine. Don't forget blessed armor+a +10 AL vs slashing. Grasps shud hit 2 at max. Get channeling instead.... It makes life lots easier. Falrach 20:28, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

• / Emo Bonder

Can't Elemental Lord be kicked for Essence Bond? This will extend the time the Elementalist can bond the Tank. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

if you can't keep bonds up you should uninstall. Nuff said. Falrach 20:31, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vale Team

• / SoS

• / SS Necromancer

T1 Wastes

• / Obsidian Flesh Terra

• / Shadow Form Variant

Shouldn't it be: Glyph of Lesser Energy, Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, Sliver Armor? As BuH + Intensity doesn't boost the damage that much, it does consume far more energy and Intensity can only be used once every 36 seconds. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

BUH and int ignore SF's dmg cap until you recast SF. Falrach 20:32, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

T2 Mountains

• / Obsidian Flesh Terra

What happened to this variant? F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Obby Flesh doesnt allow people to attack so making a flesh terra useless for mtns because you are required to interrupt their traps.

• / Shadow Form Variant

Do you really need heart of shadow? You got enough heal already. You can better use Glyph of Lesser Energy to be able to spam you Sliver Chain. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

T3 Pools

• / Obsidian Flesh Terra

• / Obsidian Flesh Terra

• / Shadow Form Variant

Do you really need heart of shadow? You got enough heal already. You can better use Glyph of Lesser Energy to be able to spam you Sliver Chain. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

T4 Pits

• / Shadow Form Mesmer

And again, someone put Heart Of Shadow in this build. Why? if it is meant as a heal, than use Shadow Sanctuary. Lot better. Must have been someone that really loves Heart of Shadow. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

• / Shadow Form Sliver

Same as above. But here is Glyph of Lesser Energy probably better. F.c.sauer 15:35, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

For those 3. HoS is for bjump and in pools, watch DLway pools and you see why it's so good. At T2 usually SoD better but that's all. For T4.... Ez glitching skellies ftw. Might want to change it on A/Me version tho. Falrach 20:39, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Armor of Earth?

Can you use Armor of Earth instead of Stoneflesh Aura? Konschu 18:41, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

No, you really need the dmg reduction at some places. Falrach 05:47, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Update

There was an update wich give mindblades leech signet, i dont know if its a big problem but it hits trough sf and of. --SjoerdieBoy XXL 09:14, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sliver too. 204.87.204.110 20:10, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Run an A/Me or E/Me with Mantra of Resolve. Take an e-management skill also. Zedone2 03:13, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Just go a/e with GoLE and yu shud be fine, someone update the builds....im too frikking lazy (and I still gotta make like 3 builds that are in my head for some time) Falrach 05:30, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Use Glyph of concentration.... Prob solved.

Glyph every spell you want to cast? fun fun. Zedone2 09:23, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes the pits sin takes glyph istead of IAU. iau is for noobs. and cast shadowform shroud and sliver. dont need stoneflesh for planes. in pits you simply dont use glyph. and it has a perfect recharge time to cast sf and sliver. my opinion its the best resolution. def better then mantra. thats just retarted.

Leech Signet interrupts any action, not just spells. Have you tested running plains with Glyph of Conc or is this just a theorycraft? 91.176.90.15 06:59, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

E/Me lab tank is now, as it has always been, much better than a/me... new sliver ftw? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 174.112.9.54 (talk • contribs) 02:08, June 1, 2010 (UTC).

Leech Signet doesnt interrupt GoC!88.78.213.88 21:47, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, well I just ran a 50min clear with seperste plains sin with no stoneflesh but GoC. Worked well, and I popes quick. The mtns sin does mtns then goes to poolsand does that. All other areas do their normal areas. My R\A wastes did solo wastes quest as well. Works nice. Whirling defenses lasts perfectly long enough tokill all 3 skeles. Could be looking at faster runs then b4 nerf.

Rangers

how well does the melandrus resilience ranger hold up, and could someone post videos of other areas apart from wastes Zedone2 03:25, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

It's only good for wastes really. If you need to cover someone, you would have to use the E/R build. Juze 09:12, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Mtns + Pools

Can't we fix up the builds for this? It's one of the most common team setups for Mountains terra to do Pools. Here's the build:

This is what my friends use. Juze 09:39, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

This is my take:

Why? Because Radiation Field is NOT needed. It is helpful for pools but when you are doing mountains, it is useless. +7 natural health regen eats up radiation field, even at its full potential (causing -10 health degen after recast). Most of the time, Obsidian Behemoths spawn right next to each other. However, at most three behemoth's Healing Springs will heal any one obsidian behemoth. Once you reposition yourself, EBSOH+Sliver should damage one behemoth. Now you're press TAB like crazy to find the next healing spring to strike. You can never really catch 3 at a time and if you do, it took 300 hours. What I do is I take YMLAD in place of Radiation Field and have my char attacking one behemoth while keeping my target on another. When the other one uses Healing Spring, I knock it down with YMLAD. In this way, I finish mountains often before restore is popped. However, it does leave you with the tiny burden of having to sliver down the dryders, but in most cases, you can do this before team ever finishes.

In addition, you can actually finish Terrorweb Queen yourself, but if you're in a good group that isn't wiping, don't bother. It takes a good 10 minutes to do so. just pull skeles one by one and sliver them down (after you make sure no grasping darknesses or white-colored Terrorweb Dryders will affect sliver). Cope Land 12:40, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Back into testing

They really hate it...

Putting up the currently used builds and a few possible variants as well as fixing formatting, tactics, and tutorial videos. I'll post the new E/R and A/R builds & tactics as I get my hands on them.--TahiriVeila 02:05, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Fix up necro? Dunno whats going on there, whether its supposed to be /rit or /mes, and skillbar/attributes. Zedone2 08:20, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

There must be a mix up with the T2 and T3. The T2 is "Mountains/Pools" and the T3 is supposed to pop Pools as well... It's confusing. Which one is supposed to do Pools or do they both do it? Nialiss 17:40, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I was banned yesterday, I would have reverted all this because Auron said on MSN he doesn't care even a bit about PvE crap and vandalism on wiki. Also, I'm taking this to trial. And the new LT build sucks. Take a look at this screenshot. Juze 10:14, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Quick! Tell your buds how mean everyone on PvX is! Your mates saying your build is better than some other one is hardly convincing. Try providing actual evidence. Misery 15:36, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Add exta skill to optionals.../FACEPALM--XTREME 16:02, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bloodsong

For what godly reason would you not have bloodsong on main bar??????--XTREME 13:19, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

whirling

Couldnt a whirling ranger do a better job at mnts/pools than a perma since all the foes in the area are projictile's sure he wouldnt have armor of earth but he can take great dwarf armor or mental block--Jpuzimaki13 20:45, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Problem is that r/a needs corn+egg to maintain and no one wants to blow that much cash on a uw run that's going to fail anyways. Life Guardian 20:49, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

dang guardian that relpy was quick and to reply to that why would he need any corn or eggs if perma can be maintained at 12 attribute beside you alread waste eggs and such for fowsc and other sc runs such as that. or an e/r with obsidian. well here look at this video

thumb|340px|right It's just an idea mind you--Jpuzimaki13 20:57, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

It could probably work well on a R/A. i'm not sure you'd have enough agro to do mountains well/quickly though.--TahiriVeila 23:55, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

R/A can't maintain SF without either deadly paradox or corn+egg. Life Guardian 00:17, July 28, 2010 (UTC)