Build talk:W/any BB Axe Warrior

GET FLAMING GUYS :D Jax Jax Jax 16:34, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I cant really see the point of KD here. It's spike afterall.--ValeV 18:55, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

You are wrong, Knock Down's are exteremely usefull on spikes. Why the hell do you think Warriors Shock or Bull's you before they blow their load on you? --Brandnew 18:59, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

needs more steelfang. Gringo 19:07, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Steelfang isn't updated due obvious reason. I think you will be better off with agon/d-chop instead of exec strike... like the usuall axe bar, with BB as optional for byeby prot every once in a whileSebv2727 19:10, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

I actually have d chop in as a variant. I'll add agonizing though, it seems reasonable enough :) Jax Jax Jax 23:00, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Remove Conjure to strengthen attribute split? 12-12-3(Hammer) Amorality 13:20, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

What should i put in place of conjure? Shock? Jax 17:24, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I can't work out why anyone would use this when they didn't before? Before the nerf for BB sins it didn't require hammer mastery Exo Oo 14:01, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Err, yes they did. Hammer mastery used to affect the time it knocked down, now at 0 hammer mastery (and 8 strength), it knocks down for 4 seconds.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=Backbreaker&diff=819162&oldid=819158 should be the right link. but anyway. im right. Hammer mastery never used to matter Exo Oo 17:46, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

How about not checking at revisions from April '08? The KD scaled from 2...4...4 to force BB sins to have a worse spec. --Chaos? -- 19:12, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

zzz Chaos. I said that. I'm saying why would people run this now when they didn't beforeExo Oo 19:27, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

"I can't work out anyone would use this...", sorry, it was probably my infinite tiredness then. --Chaos? -- 19:35, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

The fact that people didn't use it in the past is a pretty lame reason to not use it now.. Jax 22:56, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oops

I killed the conversation. Jax 15:40, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

My only gripe:

BB is an attack [that can be blinded/blocked/etc.], requires adren build-up, and it only has +1 extra second of kd. Meanwhile, Shock is a skill, gives 3 seconds [only a -1 second diff.], doesn't require adren., isn't blindable/blockable, and doesn't take up an elite slot. The only other positive quality in using BB [from my view point] that there is perhaps more flexibility with insignias for survivability [i.e.: swapping stonefists for sentinels]. Other than that though, Shock > BB due to the above arguement. *shrugs* --BlazingBurdy 18:38, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

You're retarded, by that logic all hammer elites suck because they're just adrenaline attack forms of shock.--TahiriVeila 18:55, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Not saying he's right, but hammer elites are typically run with hammer bars, not axe. With this there is really no benefit of running BB over bulls+shock. --Crow 21:22, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah he comes to the right conclusion but for the wrong reasons imho. BB axe is v fun to play (BB sword is moreso) but it doesn't really have any advantage of shock + bulls--TahiriVeila 21:25, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

plz tell me what haxx do u use to make shock last 3secs--37er 21:43, March 10, 2010 (UTC)