Any comments? While PvP hammer builds suffer from the 10 second cooldown of Crushing, this build allows you to spam KD and conditions frequently. Tycn 15:54, 6 September 2007 (CEST)
I'd assume the optional is best used for something like FGJ? - Vermain 16:15, 6 September 2007 (CEST)
FGJ works, the downtime is a pain though. But with the spread of PvE mobs, it may not be as problematic as it seems. I'll have to test further to see if it's worth it. Tycn 16:19, 6 September 2007 (CEST)
Taking FGJ in the optional slot will work wonders, Hitting your first enemy with FGJ+EC activate will net you enough adren to charge Earthshaker immediately, 1 for the hit, 3 for EC and 4 from FGJ. Then Earthshaker>Crude Swing>Whirlwind attack, gets around the -40 armour penalty and will most likely net you enough adren to hit with earthshaker again since FGJ should still be up. Rush as a variant is probably unnecassary. I usually use EC to cancel Flail and net adren back. Even if i don't activate Flail again straightaway it's at least ready to go again if i do want it. --BeeD 03:14, 22 October 2007 (CEST)
- Errr... Isn't this just Pulverizing Backbreaker but with a different elite? --
GuildofDeals 06:37, 25 December 2007 (EST)
- only this one doesn't suck.—
Cheese Slaya (Talk) 16:03, 6 January 2008 (EST)
- only this one doesn't suck.—
- that one isn't aoe Holy Satish Complaint Department 16:17, 26 December 2007 (EST)
Much like something I've been meaning to try. Couple with a Splinter Weapon Rit would be lovely :D --BeeD 20:43, 2 January 2008 (EST)
"For Greater Justice" in variants please.--Relyk 20:07, 6 January 2008 (EST)
- I've found that Belly Smash works great as an option 68.159.98.212 23:06, 11 January 2008 (EST)
Yeti Smash is a pretty good variant if you're like me and don't like taking a shitload of damage with henchman monks in hard mode from the -40 armor penalty. Mike 16:47, 20 January 2008 (EST)
KD Hammer Farmer
KD hammer farmer anyone? Build:W/Mo KD Hammer Farmer -- Tensaryu 11:51, 13 January 2008 (EST)
- What about it? You're using that in general PvE?? Poor thing. Rickyvantof 05:53, 16 January 2008 (EST)
W/P perhaps? (variant)
Maybe this could do what the Dragon Slash build did with Enduring Harmony and For Great Justice. just a thought. 69.246.236.111 00:00, 19 January 2008 (EST)
- Elaborate? This thing has two AoE attacks meaning you'll get a lot of Earthshakers anyway. Racthoh 15:30, 17 March 2008 (EDT)
Condition Removal?
If condition removal is needed, what skill is best for this build? Rehkmu 22:35, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
- Restore Condition / Dismiss Condition on a monk works best — Skakid 22:36, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
Stonefist Insignia
Why not listed?--Fallen (talk) 16:37, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
I added it as an optional piece of equipment,hope nobody minds. Some of us like an extra one second on our knockdowns instead of five health. Wtbursanswtsizzy 13:31, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
- It's definitely worth the spot, even though energy should be gained quick enough for 2 seconds to be enough. Godbox
13:35, 4 June 2008 (EDT)
wars that don't run stonefist make me lol. i personally run stonefists on all five pieces of armor. it's really funny seeing monks on their asses for 7 or over 9000 seconds. 71.230.145.170 02:56, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
- That's awesome! Except for the fact that Stonefist Insig doesn't stack.... :P - 420 12:47, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- They do if you use backbreaker. It's a bug. Probably due to how they implemented scaling KDs. - 12:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- April Fool's, right? I can't find proof anywhere supporting this claim. - 420 16:28, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- April Fool's, right? I can't find proof anywhere supporting this claim. -
- They do if you use backbreaker. It's a bug. Probably due to how they implemented scaling KDs. -
Hero Bar
<pvxbig> [Earth Shaker][Pulverizing Smash][Crude Swing][Mighty Blow][Flail][Enraging Charge][Optional][Death Pact Signet] </pvxbig>
Discuss. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:32, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
- Mighty in stead of whirlwind? gasp –Ichigo724 23:08, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
I don't think heros can use sunspear skills. 76.194.26.28 13:44, 15 July 2008 (EDT)
Crude Swing
It is normal that my hero never use crude swing?
Apply Poison
how about adding apply poison to the variants section as hero's can use it? Gabranth
SY/SRS
Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I thought with this build your adrenaline was all spent on your combos, not on SY, because your job was to knock people the fuck down and keep them the fuck down as much as possible, and blowing time and adrenaline on SY hinders that. Also, without serious adrenaline gain from, for example, FGJ + Enduring + dslash, you're simply not going to have enough adrenaline to keep SY up all the time (or even close), in which case you might as well just bring another physical that can. SRS was just included because, well, it's a res.
SY is certainly variant-worthy, though; I'm just not sure it should be mainbar when other builds can do it much better. -- Armond Warblade
{{Bacon}} 02:57, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe it doesn't deserve mainbar(although it is SY!, i mean, why not?), but SRS should gtfo. It's an awful waste of a PvE slot. Life 03:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is a pretty bad PvE skill, but it's certainly better than res sig and if you're not going to throw in SY, what else would you take? Most normal alternatives face the same problem as SY - they get in the way of knocking stuff down so you can blow shit up. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 06:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is a pretty bad PvE skill, but it's certainly better than res sig and if you're not going to throw in SY, what else would you take? Most normal alternatives face the same problem as SY - they get in the way of knocking stuff down so you can blow shit up. -- Armond Warblade
PvE Skills Variant
Figured I would put it here since it fits as a variant. It works pretty well, although it's not limited to EarthShaker.
Earthshaker -> Low Blow -> any Energy attack to get 1 adrenaline because Low blow doesn't give any (I use crude Swing or Power attack) -> Body Blow. With the Cracked armor body blow does DW and does a lot of damage. Can work better with Backbreaker/Power Attack if you don't need the AoE knockdown.
Well, not too different from the build up there but it's pretty fun.Mlandry 01:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Tbh
In HM, Sand Shards is going to do like 5 damage. Life Guardian 04:18, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- Tbh, Sand Shards is this build's second penis. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 04:35, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- A very small and flaccid penis. Life Guardian 04:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- to scare the enemies away--Relyk 05:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
- A very small and flaccid penis. Life Guardian 04:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
W/D
W/D Warrior with no Dervish skills on mainbar? 58.165.1.85 11:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- W/- ...thanks for playing, but try again.--Ikimono"My beard is thick." 12:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm...it's in the Hero Builds sections that's the problem though. It still says 'W/D PvE Earth Shaker'. Don't know how to change it, unfortunately. 58.165.1.85 13:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
New Icon
Looks like the icon for Whirlwind Attack was changed some time ago. Is there any way to change it to the new version? --Zombicidal 02:50, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
- why does it matter? -- Drah 03:29, September 27, 2009 (UTC)