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Tmaciej's vote is not reasonable, quote: "Some blind and/or stance removal would be good for Shiro" is all he wrote, however the build uses a 55 monk in conjunction with SV on Shiro so those above steps are not necessary. [[User:Pwnagemuffin|Pwnagemuffin]] 17:38, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Calm down and wait for people with actual experience running the area to comment. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 16:32, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
:IDjinn's vote: He quoted "This may work....They do the job", while giving the reason for giving a low rating as "the actual bars themselves suck. Very bad skill choice on necro (wtf nukes?) makes this suck." [[User:Pwnagemuffin|Pwnagemuffin]] 17:42, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
:removed cause arguing takes too long and i just bought a 5 slot voodoo with 5%crit chance and 15%cm for only 125k, it's amazing. [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 18:07, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
::I am jebus's vote: quote "Bad skill setup. AI flees from nukes. No tank. Fire storm is bad. Lava Arrows is bad. Attrib spread on the necro is bad. Skills on the necro are bad. Immolate is bad (unless you add Steam)." --during the actual run, by the time ai tries to flee, 3/4 of their party is already wiped out leaving 1-2 left. (torment mobs that this build faces will never flee). 3 firestorms force casted together wipes out 3/4 of most mobs that are fought (margonites and portals) in about 5-7 sec before any AI can flee (with some other damage from autopiloting heroes). Lava arrows have been taken out of the build. Att spread on necro is necessary for the mob killing to be fast, and easy with little management during fights. "skills on necro are bad" doesnt even make sense. "immolate is bad"-immolate is used for extra damage to finish off 1-2 enemies that survived the initial outburst. [[User:Pwnagemuffin|Pwnagemuffin]] 21:32, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
:::Are the above votes going to be removed or is my reasoning not valid for their removal? (or maybe the admins doesnt have the time to check anything yet?) [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 16:07, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
::::Calm down and wait for people with actual experience running the area to comment. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 16:32, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
:::::ok [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 16:41, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
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Ups, vandal. See contribs or RC. - Misery Is Hawt19px 10:43, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Garr, you EC'd me out of posting this :P --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 10:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Blocked for 3 days. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 10:56, 30 June 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Apparently a proxy of someone (I think), trolling my Talk page. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:21, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Argghh noooo, dont, stop, sorry, I'm really sorry, please dont do killed my!! :'( Sec. I stop being a prexay I promise, sec I make an acount -- 11:27, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Zeecron?--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 11:28, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Here, made an account, guild sorry I didnt mean to offend you it was just a joke Im really sorry :( --92.PROXAY.ACCOUNT.40 11:37, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Making an account doesn't change it. You're still obviously a proxy. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:39, 30 June 2008 (EDT)
Im really sorry I dont know what to now!!!! :'( --92.PROXAY.ACCOUNT.40 11:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

DE got it. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:50, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

what gave it away? the fact that his account name has the word 'proxy' in it?--Reason.decrystallized 14:12, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Uber_professional_uber_duber_mega_playarrr (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

User:Super Igor --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 15:16, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 15:20, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

I HATE NGRZ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

name says it all No 19:58, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 23:47, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Crossfirexiv (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Persistently making joke/troll votes after warning from both BMs and admins. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 10:34, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I was just about to ask about that. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 10:46, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
No im not. I said in that one vote i disagreed with Xero. Alright ill stop seriously.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 11:00, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
You've said that several times already. You know perfectly well that before you revoted it was a troll vote. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 11:01, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
This is not the first incidence. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 11:03, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
Alright ill stop.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 11:03, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Regardless, DE's warning only came just yesterday, roughly the same time the user at hand made the last of those stupid votes. No immediate block issued just yet. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 11:15, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Actually, this was a seperate vote on Build:N/any_Tainted_Flesher. However, he's revoted since I removed it. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 11:38, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
Since it's technically valid to cite another user's vote, the revote won't be removed. However, the voter should be able to provide further, sufficient support for that reason in case a BM or Administrator inquires about the vote at hand. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 11:44, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
He's revoted since I posted here. The original one was 0-0-0 quoting the removed 5-5-5. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 11:57, 1 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm well aware of that. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 11:59, 1 July 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Trolling, spamming, vandalizing, swearing and worst of all posting those laeeem HB builds, ban pl0xkthx. -- 14:04, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 14:39, 2 July 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

See contibs. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey Ressmonkey (talk) 08:35, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

needs blocked immediately Choytw sig 1Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:47, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
User started getting smart...started doing double edits so it couldn't be undone but by an administrator here is an example. Choytw sig 1Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:51, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, this guy has a serious vandalism streak going, and you can still undo the edits just compare the first change he made and the original version in the history--GoldenGoldenstarStar 09:54, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Again, he's back to vandalizing...any admins going to step in? Choytw sig 1Choytw ~~ Talk+ 17:20, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:45, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Sexypenisadventure (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Zeecron No 19:58, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I noticed from the name. :P IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I 20:14, 3 July 2008 (EDT)
What a lame name for a troll. 10 points from Ravenclaw. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:45, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Dracconus (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Contribs on [1] ZefirsigGod Zefir 20:34, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Yeah that is a little strange. I dont suspect a sock. Mabye he just likes the build :P--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 21:44, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Warnings were made on the talk page by other users. Issue resolved, unless user returns to vandalizing page(s). — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:49, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Pwncakesfury (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Zzzzzz vandal, warned already. - Misery Is Hawt19px 05:54, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

Done. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:50, 4 July 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Porn story vandal. --CJNyfalt 02:25, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Stopped. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:38, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Niggertits123 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Goatse vandal. --CJNyfalt 02:25, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

be quick cuz he's replaced practically every page with that pic... Imbue 02:32, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
I moved this to the bottom of the page, where it's supposed to be. And yes, be quick because I don't want to see that picture again. Dragnmn talk cont 02:34, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
started doing userpages Dragnmn talk cont 02:42, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
By the way, does anyone else notice that PvX is kinda slow? Dragnmn talk cont 02:52, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, serious spam--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 02:53, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
Yeah he keeps replacing great working RA builds with that pic and "FUCK YOU NIGGERS". I think he might be zeecron, igor, or someone banned, but it mite just be some random person new to pvxwiki.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 09:29, 5 July 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Self-confessed proxy. No prizes for guessing who it is. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 07:36, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

yea thats me, posting my third hb build wile being permad already, lol it made me more productive, err, Im going out atm and shutting down my pc after I return there would be another proxy so idk, ban this if you want but wont be any use. :/
I'm thinking more along the lines of we ban this proxy and then delete your contributions. You are perma-banned and your contributions are unwanted. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 07:43, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
Blocked. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 07:51, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Olds (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Seems to be a sock or some sorts of Shem. One or the other should be blocked. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 18:29, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

I did a Checkuser on this yesterday and it showed showed nothing. They could be friends. Would like another admin's opinion. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:09, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Shem's comments on Shem's userpage seem to imply that he is the same user, because he doesn't deny having multiple accounts. ــмıкεнaшк 21:16, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
GoD said (stop posting things on this guy's page) and Shem said (I am that "guy") Also GoD said (You cannot have more than one account) shem said (who cares). Obviously hes using diff comps but admitting to having 2 accounts. Dumb :P--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 21:18, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
By Checkuser, I mean that the obtained IP's weren't even in the same range. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:20, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
wierd.....--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 21:21, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
All of User:Shem's recent contributions were made to User:Olds. Also, he blanked his userpage. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 21:23, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
(ec) And assume good faith. All of the pages edited are limited to the User: namespace, and are not offensive outside of random NPA remarks (which resulted in a block a long time ago). Unless the user is spamming or using sockpuppetry to abuse the Build vetting system, I'm not going to waste time blocking. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:23, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Mebbe he was on a trip, or just likes to lie. ~.~ As Dont mentioned, they only edit the same pages, so it's safe to assume that he's using another account or just has a friend that he tells to vote 5-5-5 on all of his builds. ــмıкεнaшк 21:25, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Which as I stated above, has not occurred. Neither user has even made a contribution outside of their respective user namespaces. Leave them alone. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:26, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
I draw your attention to this. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 07:14, 9 July 2008 (EDT) (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Removing other peoples comments and replacing with idiotic contributions on Build:R/P Condi Spear. I posted a note about this on the users talk page. Selket Shadowdancer 13:24, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Ok, and why does this need to be on the AN if you've warned the user yourself and the user has stopped? — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:25, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Zuranthium (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Seriously abusing his priveleges as a build master. Removing any unfavorable votes on his Me/Mo build, which isn't very good. He's been told by the entire high-end PvP community that it's a bad build, but because he likes it, he's making sure it passes with flying colors. Blessed LightSnow Bunny 11:55, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

he's removed 2 votes, and the other was done by Tab, both removals by him seemed perfectly valid, even if it's not, it's hardly an "abuse of power". Look at the scores compared to the rest of the votes tbh....~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 12:34, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
@ snow bunny. Its not a bad build at all. Hes just trying to show his point. Also theres other BMs to do their work so he isnt the only one.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 12:41, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, the votes are currently doing fine (I guess). I admit that he has been a little touchy on the votes there, but Dont has left him a "warning" of sorts on his Talk. Anyway, I think Tab's been the BM kinda covering the build now. Just request that another BM have responsibilities in votes on the build. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 13:11, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
There's no real need for sysop intervention here as far as I see, especially when there's already vigorous discussion on the given build's page. I doubt having an admin step in to ban/restore/remove additional votes would help in the discussion. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:23, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Readem (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Should his Talk be unlocked? I don't think he'll be hit with as much spam, and if so, there's always ban hammers and the ability to lock it again. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 13:06, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

nop, I am happy as it is. --Readem 13:21, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Alright, just wondering. Sometimes I want to add something there but I can't. Just a little annoying, but who cares. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 13:22, 12 July 2008 (EDT)‎ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandal, see contribs. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:05, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Blocked. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 15:30, 12 July 2008 (EDT)‎ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

zzzzzzzzzzIgor, see talk page. - Miserysig1isery (TALK) 11:27, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 12:32, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

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P/Me Command Support (talk · rate)

Second mention, needs vote wipe, build has been largely edited.Saintsigpic2 Saint 22:55, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 07:30, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

P/W Soldier's Fury Sword (talk · rate)

zzz — Skakid 18:34, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

zzz — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 20:06, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - 3-man Varesh Ossa (talk · rate)

Gelei's vote. It's said in Usage what to do about Enchantment collapse. -- Nature Sig PicNature 23:56, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Recommend to discuss issue with Gelei. Nothing about the vote that screams out "Delete me". --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 08:07, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Imo it does scream that out. Enchant collapse is only troublesome if you let enchants end. As a 55, you obviously do not do that and you can therefor run the whole mission without even removing it. It's also the only reason given. Even though his vote is the highest one so far. --Sazzy 08:12, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Recommendation stands. I'm not the one you should be convincing. Ask Gelei to clarify or edit his/her vote. Report issue on the admin noticeboard if consensus is not reached. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 08:19, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

E/A Solo Green Farmer (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe and for Crossfire to respect 1RV. - Misery Is Hawt19px 04:00, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

I see no issue with 1RV. The timestamp on his vote says March. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 04:46, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
It was in reference to him continually archiving it while other people unarchived it and discussed it on the talk page, but he hasn't done it again, it was more telling him here to stop archiving, although I should have done it on the build talk. Still needs a vote wipe due to Shadow Form nerf. - Misery Is Hawt19px 06:17, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Avoid debating builds or votes here. Discussion moved to the build's talkpage. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 14:40, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Votes wiped. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 15:00, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - Germ Warfare (talk · rate)

Kongtorp's vote--GoldenGoldenstarStar 19:19, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Everyone elses vote. I mean c'mon! Kongtorp 22:40, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
It would help, a lot, if Goldenstar could elaborate on the report. Or better yet, raise the issue with the Kongtorp before coming here. Admins and BMs may be practical-minded as far as vote-wiping is concerned, but the admin noticeboard should not be the first place to complain about someone else's vote. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 08:05, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Me/Rt Psychic Interrupter (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe. –Ichigo724Ichigo-signature 20:49, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 01:01, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Relyk and Takeyourpill's votes. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:10, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Their votes are valid. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 16:14, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

W/D Flourishing Scythe (talk · rate)

The "great" votes, need some attention. /FrosTalk\ 12:41, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - Arcane Mimicry Monks (talk · rate)

Guild's vote... just look at it :X -- Nature Sig PicNature 13:46, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

I don't see anything wrong with it.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 13:48, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Its definatly not a 1=1=1 build, spamming 105 party heals can only be made easier by adding channeling to the build, its not "full of redundancies" , you realize that that its essentially healing for the most health, 840 per use, for 5 energy and a half second cast? Thats more than any skill in the game besides infuse.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 14:05, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
Either elaborate on the report, or provide evidence that discussion has occurred and no agreement has been reached. Please do not put up someone's vote on the admin noticeboard and expect us to read your mind, and please do not derail this into a discussion thread. This is no QQ Central. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 09:10, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

W/N Rip Axe (talk · rate)

Brieschielf's vote says that he would prefer a KD which this build already has, and he doesnt understand effectiveness and metagame.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 21:22, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Stop camping that build's rating page. The vote's fine. And I believe the user is talking about quarterknocking with Shock. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 21:29, 8 July 2008 (EDT)
I also believe the user is referring to quarterknocking. Vote is fine; he may be wrong about meta but that isn't grounds to strike a vote alone. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 00:55, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Well tab got it. So thanks ><--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 09:18, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

N/Me Vampiric Feast (talk · rate)

Heavens Martyr's vote, shows no actual reasoning. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:09, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Removed. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 12:11, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Any/N_Doppleganger (talk · rate)

User:Ikimono's vote on a stub build. >_< --CJNyfalt 15:01, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

^--Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 15:45, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

E/any Shatter Prism (talk · rate)

Once again, crossfirexiv's vote shows no reason. --Lann-sf2 Lann 16:03, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

The first sentence says "used to counter resurrection signet" and i said Frozen soil is better.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 16:23, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Resolved, because vote suggests that you should use Frozen Soil instead. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:26, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - HB Blackout Spike (talk · rate)

Most of those removed votes need to be put back. They were removed based on the notion that nobody knows how to attack things that don't have prots on them. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:56, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

For clarification: Frvfr2's, Fallen's, Generic Wiki-er's, and Relyk's votes especially need to be put back into effect. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 13:23, 10 July 2008 (EDT)
The build is nowhere near as good as their ratings make it out to be. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 13:27, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

A/W HB Moebius Sin (talk · rate)

TAB smash Pigeon's vote please.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 22:13, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Tab Smash the rest of the votes actually, he's correct. — Skakid 22:15, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
No.... ru serious that build works fine.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 22:41, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Interestingly, it was your vote that was removal worthy. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 11:42, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - RavenWay (talk · rate)

Golden's vote. Needs a decent reason. And maybe he should look at the Variants. -- Nature Sig PicNature 13:54, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Raven blessing is bad compared to ursan, and the variant is c/p from ursanway. So yeah, it's bad--GoldenGoldenstarStar 14:02, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA Pressureway (talk · rate)

Champion's vote assumes BB sins are bad in HA, which is wrong unless you're a horrible player. - to quote Goldenstar. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 16:14, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - TA Balanced (talk · rate)

Wipe-votes. I made it into the actually current meta. --Readem 04:39, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 05:17, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Drownz gave 0 on innovation.--Relyk Purifying Veil SigRELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 21:05, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Innovation is optional and does not count toward the overall score. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 21:17, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Me/Mo Fast Cast RC (talk · rate)

There are twice as many votes removed then there are remaining. I dont see anything wrong with the 4+ rating votes removed. Zur is too biased here and it needs another admin/BM to look at it. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey Ressmonkey (talk) 08:04, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved, courtesy of Dont. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:34, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

E/Mo Weakening Shockwave (talk · rate)

Trial vote. IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I 13:27, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Got it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:38, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

E/Mo 55HP Sliver (talk · rate)

Trial vote. Same guy. Ill leave a warning on his talk page. IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I 13:58, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Nvm, Ibreaktoilets got it. And he was new to the wiki, not a troll. IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I 14:20, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Mo/W HB WoH Balanced Monk (talk · rate)

Sebv's vote was wayy before the build was changed. Now obsolete.--Crossfire&#039;s Signature 00:03, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

^ --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 04:19, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - HH Gate of Madness (talk · rate)

Calm down and wait for people with actual experience running the area to comment. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 16:32, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

removed cause arguing takes too long and i just bought a 5 slot voodoo with 5%crit chance and 15%cm for only 125k, it's amazing. MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:07, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

A/P Cruel Assassin (talk · rate)

Completely re-written. Remove votes please. Selket Shadowdancer 21:56, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Was resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 23:24, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Download all builds

Can someone make a thingy for the categories that lets you download every build from that category? (For example, great HA builds. I want to download all the skill templates). I mainly want to do this with all the HA, GvG, and Hero builds. As well as PvE farming. It'd be nice to have all those builds ready ^^ The preceding unsigned comment was added by (contribs) .

We had that idea long ago, but no time yet to code it. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:05, 28 June 2008 (EDT)


Back in the resolved general coding issues, I mentioned div-frames. They were able to shown or hidden at will. Here is the extension, I think. [2] —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 10:43, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Edit: it definitely is. I tested it on my personal wiki. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 16:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)
Will have a look. I'm waiting for gc to reactivate the test server, would like to try it there first. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:38, 17 May 2008 (EDT)
We have collapsible tables now. Does that do the job? – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:20, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Recent Ratings

Shows server time, does not change based on Preferences. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:36, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Will look at it when test server is back up. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:39, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Removal and Bans

When a BM/admin is banned, it can still remove and restore votes. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thought that was true of Admins as well....?~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 15:08, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
Better? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)
If admins will be banned, it´s 95% sure their adminship will be rejected(same for BM i'd suppose). They should keep themselves to the rules, otherwise they're not a good BM/Admin. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 16:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)
In addition to this, banned users can still vote. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. Blocked users cannot see rating pages anymore. When the test server is up, I'll change it such that anonymous/blocked users can see, but not edit the votes. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:45, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Very nicely done. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:50, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)


Can we get a way to check another users ratings, rather than just our own? Helps out in case of socks that were discovered late, such as Crossfire+Woof. I would think it would be fairly easy to code. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:14, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Maybe a BM/Admin restricted checkuser style thing, but with votes instead of edits? --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 11:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
That would be great... But I don't see why not allow everyone to see it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
I just guessed it would be easy to add as an extra option on checkuser. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 15:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
Meh, I actually think it would work kinda like Contributions atm... But you type in whoevers name. Not a part of checkuser. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
I actually didn't think of that <_< --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 15:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)
I think the original idea as so you could see everyone's, and it's beign worked, i think ti was jsut Hippo managed to get this done so he amde it available, iirc it's on his to do list (could eb wrong). ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 09:06, 23 May 2008 (EDT)
Is on the list, have to wait for test server.– HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:19, 24 May 2008 (EDT)


When trying to get IPs for a user, I'm occasionally getting this error message: Fatal error: Call to undefined method IP::isipaddress() in /var/www/w/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 532. --Ibreaktoilets SignatureTab Moo 06:31, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bet it was to check me out. EXteel 06:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
See Gcardinal's talk. This is in two different places on there. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:46, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Downloading skill templates

Would it be possible to allow users to specify a default location in preferences for skill templates to be downloaded to? It's somewhat annoying to have to go through and find c:\program files\guild wars\templates\skills every time I want to download one. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

You could create a shortcut to the folder on your desktop, then it's just a matter of dragging it onto the shortcut. Still, it'd be a nice feature to have. --Mafaraxas (talkcontribs) 23:57, 8 June 2008 (EDT)
Where to save is up to your browser, I'm not sure if the server can override that. Maybe with an absolute path. Anyway, it means adding an entry to the preferences, which means all the old ones have to be converted to the new structure etc. which means some work and the need for a test server. I'll put it on the list but don't expect it too soon. For the moment I'd also suggest to use a shortcut. – HHHIPPO; ‹sysop› 10:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

How come every time I download a code and save it in my templates folder, it always says it's invalid in Guild Wars? — Eloc 12:04, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think right now, any template with a '+' in the code is invalid because the + is the URL escape character for a space or something like that. You can go into the folder they're stored in and fix them manually. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Vertical-align for ratings

When a vote has a very long description, Overall, Effectiveness, Universality and Innovation tend to stick to the bottom instead of being in the same line as ratings. A style="vertical-align: center;" should be able to solve this. ~ ĐONT*TALK 09:48, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

The ratings are set up as a table (see my sandbox for the html used). I don't think adding a vertical-align:center would work, since the problem is that the cells are stretching, not spreading out. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:37, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Indeed. I tried a few things, but it's no good. ~ ĐONT*TALK 18:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


It does not show the total number of pageviews or the job queue length. Dragnmn talk cont 05:35, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

We use squid, so the server never sees the page views. And I'd guess that the job queue is actually 0 :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 10:32, 23 June 2008 (EDT)


Can you not use <a href="blah blah">text</a> here? Since I can't make new sections inside the coding on my page, I'm trying to find alternatives so I can still have a toc. This is seeming to be a dead end as well. Any help is appreciated Choytw sig 1Choytw ~~ Talk+ 13:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

force the ToC.....use {{TOC}} iirc, then do whatever else you were wanting to do.... ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 14:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Don't believe question has been answered. Still looking for guidance. Choytw sig 1Choytw ~~ Talk+ 15:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
sorted i belive-check your talk page for details. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 15:51, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
I was wondering about this. Since I know a decent deal of HTML coding and there's some nice sites that provide HTML web pages (easy copy-paste for a PvX page), I was wondering if there's some kind of convert from HTML to WikiCode. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:07, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
No, you can't use <a>. However, you can use <span id="Header"></span> and then [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Header]]. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. Byakko 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Well this Wiki uses historic Skill Data (Back from March 2008) which was way before the Splitting and therefore a skill doesnt need to have been changed recently in order to be displayed wrong here. And thats not the only issue here 07:58, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^ Byakko 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Health Sacrifice

The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --CJNyfalt 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. Brandnew. 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
See here. Either gwshack is not up to date or <pvxbig> is not compatible. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Chilling Victory

Just to bring to attention, the Chilling Victory now has 2 different attribute lines based on PvE and PvP. So it might be something you guys should be able to handle or not. Huynh Sanity 00:05, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

We haven't gotten any split PvE/PvP skills working yet :( We'll figure it out (eventually) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:52, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm wondering if it's time to start to put some restrictions on builds being tagged for both PvE and PvP. Maybe adding a type=pve or type=pvp option to PvX code would be the solution? --CJNyfalt 01:34, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I think the cleanest solution lies in the creation of a skill database on PvX. Last I checked, it was ~80% done; we're waiting on a new test server. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
For the time being, can't we just use a [Chilling Victory@<insert rank in wind prayers>] for CV? 19pxAce (LVPoW) 00:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, you can, but that only works in this case. Most other split skills didn't just have their attribute changed :( ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:39, 13 July 2008 (EDT)


If there's a space in front of text or whatever, it gets the "background" of the <pre> tag. It's kinda fucking annoying to edit it and fix it, so if anybody would mind, you know, seeing what the issue is, that would make my pants all funny. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:45, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

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