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The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Note that this is not a talk page and that the respective moderators of each section reserve the right to remove non-administrative comments without discussion.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

If you're having troubles with your Authentication E-Mail see here and here

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by an Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

General Coding Issues

Please use The Wikia Noticeboard. Old resolved issues can be found here.

PvXcode Issues

Please use The Wikia Noticeboard. Old resolved issues can be found here.

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 == General Issues ==
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 General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an [[Admin|Administrator]]. See resolved General Issues [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved General Issues|here]].
+<big>'''''If you're having troubles with your Authentication E-Mail see  [[Help:Contents#Authenticating|here]] and [[Help:Frequently_Asked_Questions#I_don.27t_recieve_the_verification_email_no_matter_what_I_do.21_What.27s_wrong.3F|here]]'''''</big>
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 == Build-Specific Issues ==
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-Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a [[PvXwiki:Build Masters|Build Master]] or [[PvXwiki:Administrators|Administrator]]. See resolved issues [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved Build-Specific Issues|here]].
+Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by an [[PvXwiki:Administrators|Administrator]]. See resolved issues [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved Build-Specific Issues|here]].
-'''''If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.'''''
+'''''If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.'''''
 :''Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.''
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-==={{Build|N/any Elite Tome Farmer}}===
-Trial. [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 16:32, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Resolved. '''~ <span style="font-family:Courier New;text-decoration:overline;letter-spacing:1px;">[[User:Dont|<font color="#444">ĐONT</font>]][[User_talk:Dont|<font color="#444">*</font>]][[PvX:ADMIN|<font color="#444">SYSOP</font>]]</span>''' 18:23, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|Team - GvG Balance Dual Smite}}===
-uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh '''[[User:Skakid9090|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color: black">—Ska</span>]][[User talk:Skakid9090|<span style="font-variant: small-caps; color: olive">Kid</span>]][[Image:Skakidasaur.gif|19px]]''' 12:39, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-I suppose you hate it but i rewrite it a bit, fixed the sig mesmer and optional elite on Smiter. Tbh Goldenstars and Captains votes are wrong to the current build also saying. Sig mesmer whitout SoJ makes it instant 3-3-3 is pretty bad, also Innovation ehm it was putted there for 2months when it was used by 1guild , rawr oO [[User:Massive|<span style="color: #6D6968; font-weight: bold;">Massive</span>]] [[Image:Image-Massive Sig.jpg|19px]] 12:47, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|Team - Spirit Rift Ritualist Spike}}===
-Completely biased author vote, even with his reasoning it doesnt deserve 5-5-5. Have u seen the build? [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]]<b>[[user:I Am Jebus|<font color="gold">*</font><font color="blue">Jebus</font><font color="gold">*</font>]] [[user talk: I Am Jebus|<font color="green">Is</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/I Am Jebus|<font color="blue">'''I'''</font>]]</b> 18:24, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-:neither does it desever a 0-0-0, despite how bad it is, besides you should post on the builds talk page, and then the voters talk page befoer the AN remember ;) <span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 10pt;"><B>[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4F94CD">~PheNaxKian</font>]]</B></span> ([[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="Red">T</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Phenaxkian|c]]) [[Image:Phenaxkian_sig_phoenix.jpg|19px]] 18:28, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|A/D Whirling AoD Assassin}}===
-Lann + Xiay + Tabsmash = :)--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 20:06, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Tab's actually on vacation TBH. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 20:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-::Fine Raptasmash plz.--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 10:13, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::? &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 22:25, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::: >< we need ska back..Plz justremove those wrong votes plz.--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 22:26, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::: I'm pretty sure I made myself clear what issues belong on the AN. If it's a vote disagreement, post your complaint on the build's talk page. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 22:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::::ZuranSmashed anyway. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 09:51, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::::::Well AN is faster and better, and thanks guild of deals...--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 09:53, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::::::AN isn't the first place to complain about someone else. Don't get complacent with AN being "faster and better", because unnecessary and premature reports make AN slower and crappier. --[[Image:scottie_bow.jpg|19px]] [[User:Scottie theNerd|'''<font color="green">Scottie_theNerd</font>''']] <small>[[User_talk:Scottie theNerd|<font color="green">(talk</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Scottie_theNerd|<font  color="red">contribs</font>]]/[[PvXwiki:Admin_noticeboard|<font color="blue">complain)</font>]]</small> 10:07, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-Lann's vote again. He reapplied it with same exact reason. --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 09:29, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|A/E SH Deadly Arts Spike}}===
-Lukejohnson's vote zzzz... --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 20:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Honestly, any ratings above 3 looks wrong, but I'm not pushing for this to become another GoR Sin. XD The build should be renamed to SH Deadly Arts Sin, because it's too slow to be a spike, although it deals enough damage. Also, a 30 second recharge is pretty bad when you're using Deadly Paradox to reduce the recharge. XD [[User:St. Michael|<font color="maroon">'''ــмıкε'''</font>]][[User_talk:St. Michael|<font color="orange">'''нaшк'''</font>]] 09:23, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|E/A Fiery Promise}}===
-Could you remove a abuse vote from my build? It was voted great with only two 3 voting and the rest 4.5+ and one guy voted which brought it to great build. But now Thc placed a 1 rate on the build with a idiot comment.... I think he only wants to bring the build out of the great rating cause he doesn't like it or he hasn't an idea how it works, cause its totaly diffrent from the other capper build (E/D). Maybe you could remove his rating, cause its idiot since killing players with the build isn't that hard and it caps even quicker then a el/d build. The use of AP will allow you to cap even faster than normal since Shower is always available and the time between shrines isn't 1 min but most of the time 20-30 sec with the faster run skill. Thanks.[[User:Robertjanvaneijk1988|robertjan]] 02:19, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-:That is not something you debate on the AN. Discuss on the build's talk page. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 14:25, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|D/Me Wounding Breaker}}===
-There are a lot of cases where meta builds are proped straight into great *Cough*Rip Axe*Cough*, this has been used continuesly a much as the general D/E WS Derv, it is in no way an "other build" [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 16:38, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-:"Rip Axe" isn't "meta". The axe warrior bar, however, is. Anyways, votes wiped. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 16:44, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|E/A Fiery Promise}}===
-Needs vote whipe. The whole setup is changed to make it lots faster, efficient and more survivable when capping. Also the playing style is totally diffrent :P Thanks.[[User:Robertjanvaneijk1988|robertjan]] 02:22, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-:All votes have been wiped. --[[Image:scottie_bow.jpg|19px]] [[User:Scottie theNerd|'''<font color="green">Scottie_theNerd</font>''']] <small>[[User_talk:Scottie theNerd|<font color="green">(talk</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Scottie_theNerd|<font  color="red">contribs</font>]]/[[PvXwiki:Admin_noticeboard|<font color="blue">complain)</font>]]</small> 06:26, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-::Thanks![[User:Robertjanvaneijk1988|robertjan]] 07:18, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|D/Mo Wounding Strike Dervish}}===
-[[user:DervishPale94|DervishPale94]]'s vote. Rates it down because of no self healing... --[[Image:GoD Wario Sig.PNG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 12:09, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Done. &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 13:22, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|A/W Shadow Prison Sin}}===
-I think archiving is a bad idea here, it is still used, but is no longer great, I believe a vote wipe and re-votting would settle it, but if it doesn't get above good (so Other or Trash) then it should be re-archived. My 2 cents. [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 19:36, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-:No real point in repeating the process just to get it archived again. --[[Image:scottie_bow.jpg|19px]] [[User:Scottie theNerd|'''<font color="green">Scottie_theNerd</font>''']] <small>[[User_talk:Scottie theNerd|<font color="green">(talk</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Scottie_theNerd|<font  color="red">contribs</font>]]/[[PvXwiki:Admin_noticeboard|<font color="blue">complain)</font>]]</small> 03:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-::Its still used and works.  I dont see any problem with it.--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 09:24, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::The problem is it is no longer great, but is still viable, thus a vote wipe should take place... [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 09:26, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::Agreed.--[[Image:Xfire14siggy.png|110px]] 09:27, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|Team - TA AoD Smite}}===
-Some voters are undervoting, others do not provide sufficient reason. [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]]<b>[[user:I Am Jebus|<font color="gold">*</font><font color="blue">Jebus</font><font color="gold">*</font>]] [[user talk: I Am Jebus|<font color="green">Is</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/I Am Jebus|<font color="blue">'''I'''</font>]]</b> <font size=0.5>[[User:I Am Jebus/Triple Profession Contest|Enter my contest!]]</font> 22:23, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|W/A Warrior's Aura}}===
-While votes are accurate imo, 2 of them obviously need to learn about frenzy+rush. Not that it makes a difference. [[image:IAmJebus_sig2.jpg|19px]]<b>[[user:I Am Jebus|<font color="gold">*</font><font color="blue">Jebus</font><font color="gold">*</font>]] [[user talk: I Am Jebus|<font color="green">Is</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/I Am Jebus|<font color="blue">'''I'''</font>]]</b> <font size=0.5>[[User:I Am Jebus/Triple Profession Contest|Enter my contest!]]</font> 22:27, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Final Thrust drains all adr. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 23:04, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
-::I don't see what the issue is here. If there is a problem, please discuss on the build talkpage before referring to the noticeboard. --[[Image:scottie_bow.jpg|19px]] [[User:Scottie theNerd|'''<font color="green">Scottie_theNerd</font>''']] <small>[[User_talk:Scottie theNerd|<font color="green">(talk</font>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Scottie_theNerd|<font  color="red">contribs</font>]]/[[PvXwiki:Admin_noticeboard|<font color="blue">complain)</font>]]</small> 03:55, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|Me/W_PD_Arena_Mesmer}}===
-[[User:Magnetox]]. 4.8=/=decent.<small>ntm the vote makes no fucking sense</small>[[User:Dark0805|<font color=black><b>--Dark0805</b></font>]]<small><b>(</b>[[User_talk:Dark0805|<font color=red>Rant</font>]]<b>/</b>[[Special:Contributions/Dark0805|<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions</font>]]<b>)</b></small> 09:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-==={{Build|Team - GvG Conjure Zealot}}===
-Frosty's vote , doesnt really make sense when it has 4spikke characters and one Zealots Fire which he says confuses him and making it a VoD stalling :/ ZF is just bceause you alot of energy since you use SoR, so adding 30+dmg AoE can be quite nice (splinter)..
-==={{Build|Rt/A Spirit's Strength Daggers}}===
-The author's vote is very biased. {{User:Infidel/NewSig subst}} 16:29, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-:I will change my vote to reflect what I feel it should be, however I request a removal of Lukejohnson's vote. He made no comment prior to the vote and the vote's reasoning is just based on my name.[[User:Karate Jesus|Karate Jesus]] 16:42, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-::Also request that Frosty's vote be removed. He bases his vote on the build having 60 armor, but because of Ghostforge insigs the build actually has 75 armor. He obviously didn't read the build.[[User:Karate Jesus|Karate Jesus]] 16:49, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::Nevermind Frosty's vote. It was changed. Lukejohnson's vote is still pointless though.[[User:Karate Jesus|Karate Jesus]] 17:12, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
 == General Coding Issues ==
-Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator ([[User:Gcardinal|Gcardinal]] or [[User:Hhhippo|Hhhippo]]). See resolved issues [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved Coding Issues|here]]. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.
+Please use [[PvXwiki:Wikia_noticeboard#General_Coding_issues|The Wikia Noticeboard]]. Old resolved issues can be found [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved Coding Issues|here]].
-===Rating Page Lock===
-We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)
-===Recent Changes===
-The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. [[User:Klumpeet|<span style="color:#000">'''&not; Klump'''</span>]][[User_talk:Klumpeet|<span style="font-size: 11px; color:#006500">'''eet'''</span>]] 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
-===Sort Function===
-[http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Isaiah_Cartwright/Ritualist/Rejuvenation This] is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
-===Trial Builds===
-Is there a reason a huge number of them aren't showing up in [[Special:GraceExpired]]? &mdash; [[User:Rapta|<font color="silver">'''Rapta'''</font>]] [[image:Rapta_Icon1.gif|19px]] <small>([[User_talk:Rapta|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Rapta|contribs]])</small> 17:26, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
-===Changing the vlink Attribute===
-I've tried about every combination/position I can think of. Is it possible to change the color of vlinks on the wiki? {{User:Choytw/signature}} 17:28, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
-:i'd assume you'd have to alter your monobook.css...(i'm assuming Vlinks are the <nowiki>[[gww:]]and[[gw:]]</nowiki>)
-::He's talking about the "visited" property of a link. He wants to change the website's default color of a link that you've visited to some other color for a selection of specific links. - [[User:Panic|<font color="black">'''PANIC!'''</font>]] [[Image:Panic_sig4.png|50px|18px]] [[User Talk:Panic|<font color="#D70000"><small>sexiness!</small></font>]] 20:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::Visited links' color can be changed only by CSS. So you have to change your monobook (User:username/monobook.css). Add the following entry:
-<pre>a:visited {
-	color: #660099;
-}</pre>
-:::Use color of your choice. Note that the changes will be seen only by you and applies to all links. '''~ <span style="font-family:Courier New;text-decoration:overline;letter-spacing:1px;">[[User:Dont|<font color="#444">ĐONT</font>]][[User_talk:Dont|<font color="#444">*</font>]][[PvX:ADMIN|<font color="#444">SYSOP</font>]]</span>''' 00:22, 23 July 2008 (EDT)
 == PvXcode Issues ==
-Coding issues related to [[PvXwiki:PvXcode|PvXcode]]. See also [[PvXwiki talk:PvXcode]]. Resolved issues are moved [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved PvXcode Issues|here]].
+Please use [[PvXwiki:Wikia_noticeboard#PvXCode_issues|The Wikia Noticeboard]]. Old resolved issues can be found [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard/Resolved PvXcode Issues|here]].
-::<font size="3">'''''Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.'''''</font>
-=== Dash and Expertise ===
-Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See [[Build:R/A Exhausting Assault Ranger|here]]. '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
-:Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). <span style="background:blue;font-family:Algerian"><font color="blue">/</font>[[User:Frosty|<font color="lime">Fros</font>]]<font color="white">T</font>[[User talk:Frosty|<font color="lime">alk</font>]]<font color="blue">\</font></span> 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
-::That's... wow. They [http://guildwars.wikia.com/index.php?title=Expertise&diff=378302&oldid=350542 changed it back in October of 2006], and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
-:::"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --[[image:GoD Wario Sig.JPG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
-::::An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P <span style="background:blue;font-family:Algerian"><font color="blue">/</font>[[User:Frosty|<font color="lime">Fros</font>]]<font color="white">T</font>[[User talk:Frosty|<font color="lime">alk</font>]]<font color="blue">\</font></span> 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
-:::::The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
-::::::Ironic or what ;) <span style="background:blue;font-family:Algerian"><font color="blue">/</font>[[User:Frosty|<font color="lime">Fros</font>]]<font color="white">T</font>[[User talk:Frosty|<font color="lime">alk</font>]]<font color="blue">\</font></span> 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
-=== Mouse-over Attribute descriptions ===
-Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
-:I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? <span style="background:blue;font-family:Algerian"><font color="blue">/</font>[[User:Frosty|<font color="lime">Fros</font>]]<font color="white">T</font>[[User talk:Frosty|<font color="lime">alk</font>]]<font color="blue">\</font></span> 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
-::I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --[[image:GoD Wario Sig.JPG]]<font color="Black"><small>*[[user talk:Guild of Deals|<font color="purple">'''Wah'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Guild of Deals|<font color="DAA520">'''Wah'''</font>]] <font color="purple">'''Wah!'''</font>*</small></font> 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
-=== Hex Breaker ===
-[[Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike]], in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
-:A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. [[User:Byakko|Byakko]] 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
-::Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
-:::Well this Wiki uses historic Skill Data (Back from March 2008) which was way before the Splitting and therefore a skill doesnt need to have been changed recently in order to be displayed wrong here. And thats not the only issue here [[User:87.183.41.200|87.183.41.200]] 07:58, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
-:::Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^  [[User:Byakko|Byakko]] 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
-=== Health Sacrifice ===
-The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --[[User:CJNyfalt|CJNyfalt]] 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
-:I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. [[User:Brandnew|<font color="deeppink"><b>Brandnew.</b></font>]] 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
-::[[PvXwiki:Admin_noticeboard/Resolved_PvXcode_Issues#Sacrifice_as_cost|See here]]. Either gwshack is not up to date or <nowiki><pvxbig></nowiki> is not compatible. '''~ <span style="font-family:Courier New;text-decoration:overline;letter-spacing:1px;">[[User:Dont|<font color="#444">ĐONT</font>]][[User_talk:Dont|<font color="#444">*</font>]][[PvX:ADMIN|<font color="#444">SYSOP</font>]]</span>''' 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ [[Image:ZamaneeJinnSig.jpg|18px]][[User:ZamaneeJinn|<font color="black">'''Zamanee'''</font>]]<small>([[User talk:ZamaneeJinn|<font color="red">point out my idiocy</font>]])</small> 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
-=== Chilling Victory ===
-Just to bring to attention, the Chilling Victory now has 2 different attribute lines based on PvE and PvP. So it might be something you guys should be able to handle or not. [[User:Huynh|<font face="Staccato222 BT" color="black">Huynh Sanity</font>]] 00:05, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
-:We haven't gotten any split PvE/PvP skills working yet :( We'll figure it out (eventually) '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 00:52, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
-::I'm wondering if it's time to start to put some restrictions on builds being tagged for both PvE and PvP. Maybe adding a type=pve or type=pvp option to PvX code would be the solution? --[[User:CJNyfalt|CJNyfalt]] 01:34, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::I think the cleanest solution lies in the creation of a skill database on PvX.  Last I checked, it was ~80% done; we're waiting on a new test server.  [[Image:Defiant Elements Sig Test 2.JPG|50x19px]] [[user:Defiant Elements|<font color=black>'''*Defiant Elements*'''</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=darkred><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 01:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::For the time being, can't we just use a <nowiki> [Chilling Victory@<insert rank in wind prayers>]</nowiki> for CV? [[Image:Signature 1.jpg|19px]][[User:Ace|<font color = red>'''Ace'''</font>]] [[User talk:Ace|<font color = black>'''(LVPoW)''']]</font> 00:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::::Yes, you can, but that only works in this case. Most other split skills didn't just have their attribute changed :( '''[[User:Wizardboy777|<span style="color:#CD2626;">&not; Wizårdbõÿ777</span>]]'''<small>([[PvXwiki:Administrators|<span style="color:darkcyan;">sysop</span>]])</small> 00:39, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::::Aww beat me to it[[User:PuneY|PuneY]] 00:37, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-=== Missing Build ===
-Erm, not sure if anyone has noticed, but while I was setting up my competition, I noticed no A/P builds, I am certain there was a Dark Apostasy Spear build vetted on the wiki, it was in Other, but I thought it may have been archived, but not there, does anyone have any light on such an issue, of builds just dissapearing, it was similiar to this [[User:Saint/Build:A/P_Spear_Of_Disenchantment]] [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 14:38, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:I think it was slowly unfavoured, although it should have been archived. It used Remedy Signet instead of Assassin's Remedy (which was a bad choice) and something else instead of Wearying Strike. [[User:St. Michael|<font color="maroon">'''ــмıкε'''</font>]][[User_talk:St. Michael|<font color="orange">'''нaшк'''</font>]] 14:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-These are the deleted A/P builds that are still in our database. If you can find a bored admin, he might look them through to restore and archive the one you're missing.
-Build:A/PCritical_Conditions,
-Build:A/P_Anthemous_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Assachucher,
-Build:A/P_Assassin's_Fury,
-Build:A/P_Assassin's_Weariness,
-Build:A/P_CA_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Commanding_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Condition_Sin,
-Build:A/P_Crip_Anthem_Sin,
-Build:A/P_Crippling_Anthem_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Crit_Spear,
-Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter,
-Build:A/P_Critcal_Spear,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Conditions,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Fury,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Harpooner,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Shouter,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Spear,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Spear_Sin,
-Build:A/P_Critical_Spears,
-Build:A/P_Defensive_Spear,
-Build:A/P_Disenchanting_spear,
-Build:A/P_Falling_Blades,
-Build:A/P_Falling_blades,
-Build:A/P_Fox's_Promise_Spearchucker,
-Build:A/P_Infection_of_Fury,
-Build:A/P_Merciless_Fox,
-Build:A/P_Mighty_Sinspear,
-Build:A/P_Mighty_Spearsin,
-Build:A/P_Multi_Target_Striker,
-Build:A/P_Pressure_Spear,
-Build:A/P_PvE_Critical_Spear-chucker,
-Build:A/P_Repeating_Lotus,
-Build:A/P_Seeping_Critical_Daggers,
-Build:A/P_Seeping_Criticals,
-Build:A/P_Shattering_Weakness,
-Build:A/P_Shuriken_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Siphon_Spear_Shrine_Capper,
-Build:A/P_Spear_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Spear_of_Apostasy,
-Build:A/P_Stunning_Assassin,
-Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Repeating_Critical,
-Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Spear
-&ndash;&thinsp;[[User:Hhhippo|<font color="darkblue" face="times">'''H<small>HHIPPO</small>'''</font>]]&thinsp;&lsaquo;[[PvX:ADMIN|<font color="blue" size="-2">sysop</font>]]&rsaquo; 17:19, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:Anyone with Disenchantment/Dark Apostasy/Anything to do with a DA Spear Sin would be it, the CA Assassin was mine :D [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 17:23, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-::Where u want it. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 17:25, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::Don't worry, Dont got it. [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 17:28, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::We are discussing if it should be archived. I dont think it should, as it was never meta. Copy paste or move it to your userspace, and then we/I will delete it. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 17:29, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::::It was vetted in November, and went unfavourewd in May, Archive imo, it just fell out of favour, that's what happens to some builds that get archived. [[User:Frosty|<b><i><small><font color="black">Frosty]] </font></small></i><font color="grey">[[User talk:Frosty|No U!]]</font></b> 17:33, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::::It was never in favor tho. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 17:35, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::::::Since it wasn't really meta and we already have tons of archived builds, it will be deleted after all. '''~ <span style="font-family:Courier New;text-decoration:overline;letter-spacing:1px;">[[User:Dont|<font color="#444">ĐONT</font>]][[User_talk:Dont|<font color="#444">*</font>]][[PvX:ADMIN|<font color="#444">SYSOP</font>]]</span>''' 17:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-::::::::Deleted. ~~ {{User:Frvwfr2/SigRedirect}} 17:45, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
-:::::::::It was Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter. It had been in the Other or Good category, then a couple people rated it down to have it trashed. I'm pretty sure we only archive Good and Great builds, though, so it was deleted as it should have been. That contest version would be an improvement, though. =P [[User:St. Michael|<font color="maroon">'''ــмıкε'''</font>]][[User_talk:St. Michael|<font color="orange">'''нaшк'''</font>]] 21:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)