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:what builds in particular, i'll look through the deleted/moved builds...? (also putting a space at the star of your message is the equvilent to <nowiki><pre></nowiki>) <span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 10pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#9400D3">Sysop</font>]]</span>''' 12:24, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 
:what builds in particular, i'll look through the deleted/moved builds...? (also putting a space at the star of your message is the equvilent to <nowiki><pre></nowiki>) <span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 10pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#9400D3">Sysop</font>]]</span>''' 12:24, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 
::ok i made a build in my userpage, then added testing section template, then moved it to Build: whatever, however it does not show up. I did however find out that after all this u gotta click edit and click save page again to make it show up, kinda wierd and redundant [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 18:19, 12 December 2008 (EST)
 
::ok i made a build in my userpage, then added testing section template, then moved it to Build: whatever, however it does not show up. I did however find out that after all this u gotta click edit and click save page again to make it show up, kinda wierd and redundant [[Image:Muffin.jpg|19px]][[User:Pwnagemuffin|<font color="Brown">'''P<small>WNAGEMUFFIN</small>''' </font>]] [[User talk:Pwnagemuffin|<small><font color="Green">crabs</font></small>]] 18:19, 12 December 2008 (EST)
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There are several votes on this build page all zeros and they make generalized statements. They say, Minion Masters in RA = not good. But none of them refer to this build specifically, and its clear to me that they aren't familiar with the build.
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Here is a good example. 'Guild of deals' says "So you can't do shit until 1 guy dies, and then you get 1-2 Minions? The only time this is effective is when everyone is dead."
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However, its obvious he hasn't even looked at the updated skill. With Arcane Echo + AotL, you can have 2 minions up within the few opening seconds of the match.
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Nevertheless, even the comments directed at AotL-Necro builds in general, aren't looking at this build specifically. Just because the elite is shared, doesn't mean that because you defeated someone carrying this elite therefore you will equally defeat all builds carrying the same elite. ([[User:Narziss|Narziss]] 22:36, 12 December 2008 (EST))

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The Admin noticeboard

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General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

Anonimous. (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Consistent breaking of RV1, NPA, ARCHIVE, and general dickishness. Warned by several people (Reason, Phenax) several times. Enough is enough. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 17:34, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Blocked for 1 week. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:49, 6 December 2008 (EST)
Unrelated, but can you lock Zeecron's page? Apparently he wasn't locked and random ban avoids have been coming back. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 17:51, 6 December 2008 (EST)

85.25.152.185 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log) is one of his socks/ban avoids. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 17:56, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Hurry Hurry ban Zeecron. 99.190.105.14 18:02, 6 December 2008 (EST)
Zeecron's been banned for a long time. --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 18:03, 6 December 2008 (EST)
85.25.152.185 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log) is one of his socks/ban avoids. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 17:56, 6 December 2008 (EST) PikaFanLightningbolt sig 18:04, 6 December 2008 (EST)
Avoiding is my job, but I barely use PvX, because it's just Obs on paper, nothing special. 99.190.105.14 18:06, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Anonimous the Sockpuppet. (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log) zzz --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 18:28, 6 December 2008 (EST)

already got it. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 18:29, 6 December 2008 (EST)
Anonimous the second Sockpuppet. (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log) --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 18:35, 6 December 2008 (EST)
I am in blind rage. --Anonimous the second Sockpuppet. 18:38, 6 December 2008 (EST)
You've also increased your ban by another week. Congrats. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 18:44, 6 December 2008 (EST)

74.230.201.166 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism here, here, and here. Gringo 18:33, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Also, he just broke PvX:1RV, but I am going to leave the page because it will just turn into a revert war. Once an admin bans him, please revert his contribs. Gringo 18:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Warned on talk page, but still probably needs a ban. I dont think we can AGF this one. -- Jebuscontests 18:39, 7 December 2008 (EST)
It WAS intentional, he openly discussed it in today's 1v1 DAT. CrazyCow 18:45, 7 December 2008 (EST)
On that note, I'm 99% sure Rolin is this IP, if anyone feels like running a Checkuser. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 18:46, 7 December 2008 (EST)
They're one and the same--GoldenGoldenstarStar 19:08, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 22:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Rolin (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Possible sock of the above? -- Jebuscontests 18:46, 7 December 2008 (EST)

It is, his ingame name is Forester Rolin. CrazyCow 18:47, 7 December 2008 (EST)
why are none of the admins on? -- Jebuscontests 18:47, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Because some people have lives. This isn't a talk Jebus, just be patient and ignore the vandal until one comes on. Gringo 19:05, 7 December 2008 (EST)
That is quite hard for Jebus, seeing as he is an autist. 72.94.141.236 19:05, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 22:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Woodymiles (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

blanking pages. probably he was just trying to delete it; however, when i went to warn him on his talk page, i found that he had been warned about this already.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 09:50, 8 December 2008 (EST)

for a previous offense, i mean.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 09:59, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Chrismcc5 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

blanking pages. just back from being banned for something else, too. :/--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 09:58, 8 December 2008 (EST)

PvX:AGF. He probably wasn't aware of PvX:ARCHIVE. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 13:55, 8 December 2008 (EST)
sigh.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 09:57, 10 December 2008 (EST)
oh nvm. misery already banned him. dude must troll RC like a badass mofo ...--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 09:58, 10 December 2008 (EST)

165.248.247.140 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

[[1]] & [[2]] Tai sig Image 78 18:13, 10 December 2008

and [[3]] Tai sig Image 78 18:15, 10 December 2008
done ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 18:18, 10 December 2008 (EST)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.


A/P The Regenerator (talk · rate)

votes on trial build.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 16:26, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Resolved. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 16:27, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Team - AB Defenseway (talk · rate)

Timmy's vote is pretty bad.--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 06:11, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Rt/Mo The Martyr (talk · rate)

Lukes vote is strange, cause I never saw any working Martyr Smiting build in AB, GoD's vote is wrong, this doesnt run into any energy problems, and rit healers are nice. →J.J. berks (contrib) 08:23, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Me/N FC Necrosis Spammer (talk · rate)

Build changes, practically none of the votes are valid. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 09:10, 6 December 2008 (EST)

done. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 16:58, 6 December 2008 (EST)

R/A Deep Defense Tank (talk · rate)

Remove the vote of Armond, who voted very low saying 'certainly a good tank' but rating it down because of the team it is supposed to be in, apparently. Also remove the vote of Eloc Jcg who gives a five-word reason that doesn't make sense or explain anything for a moderately low vote.Stryk the Lightning 17:20, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Resolved--GoldenGoldenstarStar 00:34, 7 December 2008 (EST)

E/W Searing Flames RA (talk · rate)

Luke's vote is soooo sooooo dumb. --Xmassigangelus 15:25, 7 December 2008 (EST)

resolved--GoldenGoldenstarStar 16:01, 7 December 2008 (EST)

D/W AoL Attack Spammer (talk · rate)

ninpou's vote is very lol.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 15:52, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Done. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:55, 7 December 2008 (EST)
Eloc Jcg's vote has nothing to do with why he voted it 3.8 "I never really understood why people brough Conviction, but I use this on my hero. " is all he said
forgot to sign for above quote ( i think i wrote it..duno im pretty sure i did) MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 00:22, 10 December 2008 (EST)

P/any Song of Restoration Paragon (talk · rate)

Ikimono's vote says that "TPiY!" heals. At all. Even if it did, it would be with crappy skills. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 07:24, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Resolved. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 15:53, 8 December 2008 (EST)

R/Mo Cripshot (talk · rate)

Massive's vote. Cripshot in the shadow? Tai sig Image 78 13:25, 8 December 2008

Gold got it I think. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:10, 8 December 2008 (EST)

A/W HB "Coward!" Assassin (talk · rate)

Viktor's vote for not understand what a coward sin is for, and that its for HB. Also, Golden's vote for just being stupid =P. Hero mechanics make the build very good. Also, frenzy > flail in the build because flail wont work with coward if you want to use it immediatly. Gringo 18:48, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Taken care of, i don't even remember voting on that build =\ Must have been back when coward was 6 adren--GoldenGoldenstarStar 19:44, 8 December 2008 (EST)

Mo/W AoF Arena Monk (talk · rate)

Wiplash... changed trash to great... →J.J. berks (contrib) 21:59, 9 December 2008 (EST)

explain to me how that requires admin attention. reverting. Gringo 22:12, 9 December 2008 (EST)
lol... im a nub.. how do u revert? →J.J. berks (contrib) 22:13, 9 December 2008 (EST)
you go to history, compare versions and just revert his version back to the original. or you can do what goldenstar did, and just put the right tag back on it. Gringo 22:14, 9 December 2008 (EST)

E/Mo Ether Healer (talk · rate)

Misery, Racthoh's and Auron's votes. Rits can't heal and buff as much as the Ether Healer without killing their energy (OoS isn't enough, and everything else sucks, tbh). This isn't meant to be the only support character in a group; you're supposed to take it with a protter. Spamming party heals and a ~300 point heal with almost no drawbacks is better than a couple single-target prots; there's a reason Healing Prayers is more popular than Protection Prayers in PvE. ــмıкεнaшк 07:17, 11 December 2008 (EST)

D/any EDA PvE Scythe (talk · rate)

Auron's vote. Not every single instance of PvE is lvl 10 foes who drop in 2 scythe swings. It's called Hard Mode. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 07:30, 11 December 2008 (EST)

E/W Searing Flames RA (talk · rate)

Ricky and Unexist need more reasoning tbh. -- Jebuscontests 16:37, 11 December 2008 (EST)

R/any Incendiary Interrupt (talk · rate)

Moved back to trial. Requesting vote wipe. Toraen (Talk/Contrib) 18:58, 11 December 2008 (EST)

W/E Shock Axe (talk · rate)

unexist ups. -- Jebuscontests 22:17, 11 December 2008 (EST)

A/D Onslaught Assassin (talk · rate)

Some of the votes might need revision, but the 1/4 cast and 5 energy makes this way more worthwhile--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 22:43, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Actually no, what was changed was never the problem with the build, so the votes are valid. -- Gringo TALK 14:56, 12 December 2008(EST)

A/W Solo Palm Strike Spiker (talk · rate)

Any of the 000 votes are all fucking autistic.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 00:34, 12 December 2008 (EST)
Resolved. Mind PvX:NPA. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 05:52, 12 December 2008 (EST)

A/W Collapsing Spike (talk · rate)

Ojama changed it into a completely different build, but it isn't the build that was vetted at first, some insight from admins would be nice. Jelmewnema 16:07, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Its fine. Was already in variants. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:08, 12 December 2008 (EST)
ThnxJelmewnema 16:09, 12 December 2008 (EST)

W/any Primal Rage Axe (talk · rate)

Any trash votes need to be removed. See Readem, the token experienced player. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 19:07, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Rt/any Spirit's Might (talk · rate)

Bar/skill update, vote wipe needed. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 19:34, 12 December 2008 (EST)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Forum links

Could possibly get some coding to link to the forums for specific builds? For example, if in the article, there is some code such as "forums=(URL)" then it would add a link to the top. Is this possible? We could just make a template and add it to these pages I guess. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:50, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Display issues with Safari Browser

Well, I recently downloaded the new Safari browser and i like it a lot. However, there seems to be some kind of display issue with PvX. The navigation bar that is supposed to appear on the left hand side of each article is just a blank white area and the links from that are pushed down to the very bottom of the page below the white area. Could be something to do with my computer, but can someone else using safari confirm? Thanks Peter 02:58, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Yea, the sidebar links are getting pushed down below the article body on every page. I'll look into it and see if I can change the css or something to fix it if I have time. Hhhippo might know how to fix it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:44, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Nothing I've tried fixes it. It's entirely possible it's a safari bug. But if anyone else who knows some css wants to try to figure it out, here's a summary of what I tried:
  1. Reducing the width of the article body and/or sidebar just leaves a bigger gap between them.
  2. Changing the white-space:nowrap in the h4, h5, and h6's for .portlet to white-space:normal removes the big section of whitespace, and the sidebar looks normal... except that it's still shoved down below the article.
  3. Changing the border, padding, and margin for .portlet and #pBody did nothing.
I tried more than this, but I don't remember it all. Also, guildwiki, GWW, and wikipedia all look normal in Safari. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:26, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Confirmed, no other wikis seem to be having this issue. Peter 07:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Opera, IE, Firefox, and Chrome all load the wiki fine. I'm guessing it's a rendering issue in Safari. If you want, I could try to write up a CSS that'll fix it for just you that you can put in your monobook. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 20:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
If it was a rendering issue would it not an effect on the other wikis? Its not a huge problem by an stretch of the imagination, just a bit inconvenient. I will contact apple and see what they say....Peter 04:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, all I can get out of apple is that its not a Safari browser problem.....back to using firefox i go lol. Peter 02:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

Display Issues with Chrome

Same problem as described above with Safari. [[4]]. Anyone got anything? Sometimes its not that far down, it depends on the page I'm looking at. - McTai Tai Sig Image 3 14:31, 2 December 2008

Same but it ends under the red window. Fox007 User:Fox007 14:45, 2 December 2008 (EST)
(EC)Maybe add style="vertical-align:top"? Only Hhhippo or GCardinal can test / fix it though. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 14:47, 2 December 2008 (EST)
For me the nav bar (ie, Recent Changes) starts right at the end of the article. For this page, for example, it's wayyyy down there. Tai sig Image 78 14:48, 2 December 2008
(EC)Also the white part is a huge link to the main page. I do not know if that would help though. Fox007 User:Fox007 14:49, 2 December 2008 (EST)
This is exactly the same problem I have with my Safari Browser, it seems to push everything down to the bottom of the articles for some reason, most likely because the advert does not fit in the navigation bar. However, as above, widening this seemed to have no effect. Any coding experts out there? Peter 14:09, 3 December 2008 (EST)

Firefox PVX Search Codex not Found

The codex to allow me to search in the firefox search bar isnt found. I have yet to try IE The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.10.90.103 (talk • contribs) .

Works on Chrome. Fox007 User:Fox007 16:05, 26 November 2008 (EST)
But not on FF--82.10.90.103 07:54, 30 November 2008 (EST)
Poke told me that it is a newer version of MediaWiki that automatically does that, and updating mediawiki causes obvious problems for PvX. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:14, 30 November 2008 (EST)
FF seems to work ok for me Peter 02:59, 1 December 2008 (EST)
for me, the ad is right between recent ratings and the search box, so i have to scroll down. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 22:21, 2 December 2008 (EST)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Health Sacrifice

The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --CJNyfalt 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. Brandnew. 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
See here. Either gwshack is not up to date or <pvxbig> is not compatible. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Leadership glitch?

<pvxbig> [build prof=Para/War leadership=0+3]["Go for the Eyes!"][Watch Yourself!][Save Yourselves!][Save Yourselves! (Luxon)]["There's Nothing To Fear!"][/build] </pvxbig> Energy is shown for GftE and WY, but not SY. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 16:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

i'm inclined to think that's more a GWBBcode thing than our end (could be wrong). PheNaxKian Sysop 16:38, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
Probably some Kurzick rank thingy that doesnt show up in PvX bar that affects leadership. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 17:54, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
nope. same with luxon. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 18:03, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
Doesn't work with TNTF, must be something to do with pve skills. Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 18:06, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
(EC)hmm it might be linked to the PvE rank. even if you put @3 it doesn't change anything (it doesn't even show what the duration should be). Just leave it a while, Hippo or GCard will see this eventually, amd if it's our code they'll fix it. If it's GWBBcode, i've left GCard a message asking him to update to the new version (with their being a new version) hopefully it's been fixed in that version. if not then just tough I guess =p, not much we can do. PheNaxKian Sysop 18:09, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
IIRC, leadership energy bonuses don't show up with energy-based shouts. But I could be wrong. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 13:42, 6 December 2008 (EST)

<pvxbig>[[theyre on fire@10]</pvxbig>

Its the energy cost is underlined like in the above link, while it isnt underlined in TNTF. --- Monk-icon-Ressmonkey Ressmonkey (talk) 13:46, 6 December 2008 (EST)
oic. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 15:35, 6 December 2008 (EST)

PvXbig links

More of a suggestion than anything. Basically when you use PvXbig without the build information (so you can get a mouseover description of a skill, like this: <pvxbig>[[glyph of lesser energy@0]</pvxbig> which is <pvxbig>[[glyph of lesser energy@0]</pvxbig>) it would be nice if when you clicked on it, it linked to the GWW article. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 13:32, 6 December 2008 (EST)

It does for me. --Frosty 13:35, 6 December 2008 (EST)
thanks for tricking me phen. --Frosty 13:36, 6 December 2008 (EST)

Any recent problems

with builds not showing up where they are posted? I put mine in the testing section, and only 1 actually showed up there, duno why MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:46, 11 December 2008 (EST)

what builds in particular, i'll look through the deleted/moved builds...? (also putting a space at the star of your message is the equvilent to <pre>) ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 12:24, 12 December 2008 (EST)
ok i made a build in my userpage, then added testing section template, then moved it to Build: whatever, however it does not show up. I did however find out that after all this u gotta click edit and click save page again to make it show up, kinda wierd and redundant MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:19, 12 December 2008 (EST)

N/Me AotL Echo Feast (talk · rate)

There are several votes on this build page all zeros and they make generalized statements. They say, Minion Masters in RA = not good. But none of them refer to this build specifically, and its clear to me that they aren't familiar with the build.

Here is a good example. 'Guild of deals' says "So you can't do shit until 1 guy dies, and then you get 1-2 Minions? The only time this is effective is when everyone is dead."

However, its obvious he hasn't even looked at the updated skill. With Arcane Echo + AotL, you can have 2 minions up within the few opening seconds of the match.

Nevertheless, even the comments directed at AotL-Necro builds in general, aren't looking at this build specifically. Just because the elite is shared, doesn't mean that because you defeated someone carrying this elite therefore you will equally defeat all builds carrying the same elite. (Narziss 22:36, 12 December 2008 (EST))