PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

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Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

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Please delete

12:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

done. for future reference, you can just put a delete tag on it. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 13:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Delete/clear content and history of my userspace

I have been surprisingly attacked in the last 2 days by people referring to their successful attack on my guilds former PvX userspace.

Summary from my point of view: I have used this service in 2007/2008 to post a couple of beginner PvP builds on a "shared guild space" and tried to defend it against an attack from most probably a friend of a former angry guildmember. He registered on this board with the same name we had used for this userspace and changed our self intro in "On this shared guild user space members of the exceptionally gay Sword of Justice guild should post possible public toilets in which we can meet up for a quick blowjob...". After loosing this conflict because the PvX policies were in favor of my opponent I retired from PvXwiki.

Some people seem to be be still proud of their success and still feel it necessary to tell me about it quoting text from my userspace here holding it up like a trophy.
As I neither feel like reviving this nor responding to that I request the deletion. Enough is enough.

If you can't (or do not want to) comply with that request, give me the contact address of the data controller and name the data protection authority the board is registered with.

Marcus The Cube

Resolved. Misery Says Moo 10:41, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Archived Build

Suggest moving Build:Rt/any_Defensive_Spirit_Lord to replace archived Ritual Lord page. Syphonus 15:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

222.153.65.237 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism. on Build:W/any PvE Dragon Slash Warrior. Protect page pls. Life 05:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Havoc928 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Repeated removal of comments on Build talk:E/A RTL Dash Away‎. Life 03:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

next time leave him a message on his talk page before coming here, then if he keeps removing comments report it =p ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 10:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I left a message on the freaking talk page that he was removing the comments from, and he removed that message. Life 19:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

"next time leave him a message on his talk page". He's more likely to notice a comment on his talk page because of the giant banner saying "you have a new message". If you post on the build talk page, chances are he won't read it because he thinks it's continuing along the same line as the OP, and not necessarily read it, you can do both if you wanted, but you should always leave a message on the users talk page. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

You might want to check out Havoc928 and Havoc983 they both voted on the same build with very similar ratings. Drahgal Meir 19:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I've blocked 983 as a sock (perma) and blocked 928 for a week. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Anonimous. (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

[1] "lolimbored" isn't a reason to do this shit. God Zefir 00:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

lolimbored also BAWWWWWWW--Anonimous. D: 00:10, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

resolved (I actually only just noticed Big blocked him as well >.>, oh well). ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

213.60.77.31 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism. Life 01:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Got it. ~ Big sysop 10:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

92.13.214.229 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism. God Zefir 21:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

(S)he stopped after being warned. ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:26, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

we give warnings for vandalization now..? o_O ···  21:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I didn't really look too closely at what the edits were, I just noticed that once they were told to stop, they did. ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:37, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Seven Years Of Halo (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Someone get this mother fucker under control. He's spamming duped/terrible builds (he fucking thinks all insigs stack and are global). Give him a warning or something. I can't keep his builds under control. 17:49, 31 July 2009

lawl first time i saw a message like this here PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:33, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Rating Page broken

Dont realy know where to put it but the rating page seems to be bugged it shows "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information" every time I try to access it. --Carnivorous Cupcake 16:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? :* I want to vote more you know. --Carnivorous Cupcake 18:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

have you confirmed you're e-mail address? ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Yup, I even voted yesterday. --Carnivorous Cupcake 18:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

just to clarify, is it the build rating pages, or just Special:RecentRatings? ~ PheNaxKian talk 19:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Rating pages themselves. --Carnivorous Cupcake 19:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Its happening to me too. [2] that's the only page that I have seen it happening though. Drahgal Meir 19:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

all ratings pages are working fine for me (that I've tried). Try using a different browser. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Tried on IE and FF and it still doesnt work. ): --Carnivorous Cupcake 22:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

all I can suggest then is to go to the build page in question and click "report a problem with this page". Fill that in as much detail as you can, and I'll flag it as needing staff help (it will be something server side). There's not much else I can suggest I'm afraid :/ ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be very random for me. I went back to the rating page I linked to about 45 seconds later and I could vote. I haven't ran into the problem since then either. Drahgal Meir 22:09, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok thanks for help I will report the problem. Just a side note, I cant view some talk pages now too. :s --Carnivorous Cupcake 22:03, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

what's it saying? ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:04, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Screenshots are good. (To take one of something like a web browser, press the prntscrn button then paste it into an image program and save it. MS Paint works fine for that). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 22:15, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok, think I can vote again. :) Thanks for help everyone. :p --Carnivorous Cupcake 10:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I have still had this problem now for 4 months, and i just realised, now i get a different error:Internal error From PvXwiki "Detected bug in an extension! Hook rateAction::rateAction failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort.

Backtrace:

1. 0 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/includes/Wiki.php(538): wfRunHooks('UnknownAction', Array)
2. 1 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/includes/Wiki.php(63): MediaWiki->performAction(Object(OutputPage), Object(Article), Object(Title), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
3. 2 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/index.php(116): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(Article), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
4. 3 {main}"

Any help?

88.106.23.114 19:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Archiving

I suck at archiving. Fix my mess please. Selket Shadowdancer 17:06, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Only User talk:Selket Shadowdancer/Archive has to be deleted. The rest is fine. --- -- (contribs) (talk) 17:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

72.134.110.100 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Annoying vandal is annoying. Life 08:14, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Frosty banned him. Also, don't give the vandals ideas -.-. ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Broken Link

Resurrection Signet--XTREME 12:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Works for me. --Carnivorous Cupcake 13:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

What link? Works in pvxbig for me. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry just saw it on multiple pages so I thought it was broken/deleted and didn't think it was bad code. Consider it resovled.--XTREME 14:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Test

Needs to be moved/deleted to the right place. 23:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Common.css has incorrect image paths

All references to the "http://images.pvxbuilds.com/img_skin/" directory do not exist and need to be changed to: "" Planqi 21:15, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

nice catch!. That's fixed the missing icons (you might need to clear your cache) ~ PheNaxKian talk 21:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

oh, wow. I figured the images were located within the pvxbig server-side code. glad to see this cleared up! ···  21:35, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

216.119.21.67 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism at Build:E/A Blinding Surge Spiker and Build:Team - 2 Monk Rotscale Farm. Seems to be a recurring vandal, seeing as Build:A/W YAA Assassin was also vandalized 2 months ago. I've warned the IP both times, but they probably didn't see it. Toraen talk 00:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Account deletion

I would like my account deleted please. Selket Shadowdancer 22:40, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't think you can delete accounts oO. Perma ban would probably be the closest thing to deleting an account. Drahgal Meir 23:09, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

A perma ban doesn't protect personal information. Selket Shadowdancer 23:14, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, you could ask a Wikia staffer to disable your account. — Balistic PvX

Or an admin here can just delete my account and save me the trouble. It's hardly some big deal to delete someones account at their request. Selket Shadowdancer 23:23, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Except we cannot technically do it. All we can do for you is deletion of anything you tag in your user space including photos etc. and permaban. Misery Says Moo 06:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Then I'll add a delete tag then. Perma ban by name please not by IP. Selket Shadowdancer 07:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Resolved afaik. Misery Says Moo 07:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Rating

I can't rate stuff. Devika 09:55, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

To add further to this I keep getting the following code when I try to:

Internal error From PvXwiki Jump to: navigation, search

Detected bug in an extension! Hook rateAction::rateAction failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort.

Backtrace:

1. 0 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/includes/Wiki.php(538): wfRunHooks('UnknownAction', Array)
2. 1 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/includes/Wiki.php(63): MediaWiki->performAction(Object(OutputPage), Object(Article), Object(Title), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
3. 2 /usr/wikia/source/releases_200908.4/index.php(116): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(Article), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
4. 3 {main}

Devika 14:12, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Also I checked my preferences and found I am not part of the Autoconfirmed users group. I have confirmed my email so I don't see what the problem is here. Devika 17:38, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

there are several requirements to become "autoconfirmed". I'm not sure what they are specifically (because they're changeable, which means it's what wikia decides and not us), but generaly you have to have:

1. Confirmed your e-mail
2. Been registered for 4 days (the time period is changeable as mentioned)
3. Made 4 edits (again changeable).

All i can suggest is continue editing, and if after about a week you still can't rate post here again =p. ~ PheNaxKian talk 17:58, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Can you not just put me in the group that allows me to rate stuff? I've got like 50+ contributions. Devika 18:00, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

only BCrats (which I'm not) can change your user-rights, and I don't know if they're capable of giving autoconfirmed status. ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:05, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Who are they and how can I contact them please? Devika 18:16, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Try confirming again. Also, don't use proxies, specifically SSL proxies, or you'll throw errors on a lot of special pages. ···  22:04, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

the issue isn't the e-mail conformation, it's that the account was only registered a couple of days ago. like I said an account has to be so old (default of 4 days) before it can be moved into the autoconfimred user group. Also Devika, i'd jsut suggest waiting a couple of days, it's hardly worth bugging a BCrat, especially considering it happens to every (new) user. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:10, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Ok I'll wait a few days, thanks guys. Devika 00:44, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Is this for being able to actually rate pages? Because I just want to be able to see the pages again. Kaizerfreak 15:12, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I've no idea why you can't see the page, you'll have to contact wikia for that. ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:47, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

If you mean the ratings pages I can't see them either. I can see the ratings list, but if I click to go to a builds rating section it gives me the above error message. Devika 15:48, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Problem seems to have resolved itself. It seems Phenaxian was right. Devika 14:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Same. Kaizerfreak 15:29, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

74.248.247.75 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Consistent removal of WELL tag from build Davesway, also breaking RV1. AthrunFeya 10:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

he appears to have stopped. If he comes back just bump this. ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:08, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Bump AthrunFeya 00:15, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

90.220.149.95 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandal with a funny revert war going on. ---Chaos- 17:47, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Daññy‎ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

[3] use, and a persistent reapplication of a desruptive code to his userpage. Personal attacks while reverting. --Carnivorous Cupcake 22:13, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

It's pretty sad to know that there are retarded people around who don't know how to not visit userpages if they are "disruptive". uɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 22:16, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

What you've said isn't an excuse for using a code to intentionally make the entire page unusable. By the way, if you wish to discuss this matter take it to the talk page. --Carnivorous Cupcake 22:21, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Why not you do it first instead of doing exactly the opposite of what you are trying to tell me to do? uɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 22:24, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

the code is hardly disruptive. if you click the Discussion link, everything comes back. you've also still got the search box. you also violated 1RV, tbh. not to mention, it's userspace. you don't have to be on my page if you don't want to. ···  22:31, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

the problem is, i could see your user page content, the user page (not talk) tab, and the search bar (and part of the log out button), so i can't click on the talk tab. A table is as close as you'll get to what you want (with every seeing it) and the page still acting as a user page. Consider this resolved. ~ PheNaxKian talk 23:00, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

tbh, i could see the other links just fine. if you bothered to tell me that you couldn't see the talk link, i might've changed it, but since you went the brave admin route and didn't say a damned word, now you're just a faggot who involved himself in a misunderstanding. unban me, tell me what browser you're using, and i'll get around to fixing it when i have time. until then, i'd love to know what policy my userpage violates. i'd also like to see carnivorous getting a ban for his repeated violations of 1RV, if you choose not to unban me. Love, 85.13.197.154 23:06, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

His page is still broken. :/ --Carnivorous Cupcake 23:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

the page his been reverted to my version. The problem with you're version was that you will always bee screwing up someone's display, because everyone's using different resolutions and you're using absolute positions. It violates PvX:DIS. I won't ban Carnivorous because he was reverting disruptive edits. Big was kind enough to reduce your ban to one day, if you want it to stay like that I'd suggest you stop proxying. ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:15, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

I would love to know where in PvX:DIS my userpage lies. Assuming I'm not literally retarded, PvX:DIS covers text. Not to mention, no one besides you and Cupcake has had an issue with my userpage, and neither of you wanted to discuss it civilliy, which is just terrible on your part, particularly, seeing as you're an admin. I'll be reverting it back to the original state unless you can explain how it violates PvX:DIS and/or are willing to provide me details of how it "screws up" your display. Without that effort, I see know reason why it's anymore disruptive than people using characters in signatures whose native sets I don't have installed on my computer. If you can't be fucked with acting like an adult and having an at least moderately civil discussion, then you're no better than the trash vandals and trolls around here. 76.73.47.42 20:17, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The point was it's disruptive, it's the spirit of the policy, not the letter. Your ban has been extended, now stop posting or it will be increasing again. ~ PheNaxKian talk 20:20, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

The point should be that no one bothered to say anything about it. It was just Carnivorous and you, an admin, revert warring with me and Pika. If someone had bothered to say what was wrong, the whole situation probably would've just gone away, but here at PvX, everyone, including the admins, act like 4 year olds. I'm not sure if you've realized this yet, but my ban really doesn't matter. The fact is, you've made yourself look like an asshat to a lot of users and even a couple admins. When you're ready to talk about things like an adult, I'll be lurking. 193.200.150.137 20:38, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Disruptive can't really refer to his page. You're not being forced to go there. You have something personal against him, that's fine. Leave it off of this site. Just because he annoys you, it doesn't give you the right to ban with a bias. Everyone on here has something rude to say about PvX. It's a build storage site for a dead game. I mean really, lol? ~ Big sysop 20:42, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Big, now you know why I loved the dramarama on this site so much. Such an insignificant site with even more drama and stupid shit than the whole of /b/. 82.45.105.74 22:09, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

‎85.13.197.154 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism. Looks like User:Daññy avoiding his ban. --Carnivorous Cupcake 23:33, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

how is it that this shitter didn't get a ban for his part in all this? phen, you're never this much of a shitter. =/ i'm sad now. 85.13.197.154 23:38, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

negatory, that's a sock of someone else I think. Oh, wait, that's my proxy. Sorry, that's me, shitter. 82.45.105.74 22:21, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

‎TahiriVeila (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Constant breaches of NPA against me, trolling, vandalising [4][5] with no apparent reason on my talk and userpage. --Carnivorous Cupcake 21:46, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

CRY SOME MOAR! 82.45.105.74 22:45, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

‎Shadowsin (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Constant trolling with no apparent reason on my talk. --Carnivorous Cupcake 21:46, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

Team - HA Eleball (talk · rate)

bunch of autistic votes. not liking ele ball doesn't make it bad. ··· Danny Does Drugs 18:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Rt/N FA Glaive Utility (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe, spirit siphon buff gave it a massive blue bar buff. My Soles ^{Are Bad} 05:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

N/any OoU Minion_Master (talk · rate)

Outdated build and votes are outdated. Lacks any utility present in common MM builds. ··· Danny Does Drugs 19:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Mo/W_Stance_WoH (talk · rate)

Bad, low votes. Stance monk is retarded good capping defense shit. ···  18:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

also, looks like people don't understand how to run it. it's kinda like a D/A - if you don't run it right, ofc it's gonna be useless. ···  18:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Signet of Spirits

Search "SoS" and delete at least half of them, seriously. We only need 1 Resto and 1 Channeling version. ···  19:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

This seems to have sorted itself out. AthrunFeya 07:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

R/N_HB_Feral_Toucher (talk · rate)

Cake Archer is bad at HB. And Peterpoho probably is, too. ···  17:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Cake Archer hasn't gotten any better at HB. ;o ···  16:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

W/any Hard Mode Elemental Farmer (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe badly. A lot of votes refer to skills that aren't on the current bar and some complain about the weapon choice when it requires no specific weapon (again probably a consequence of the bar change). Oops, didn't see riposte. Toraen talk 05:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Rt/A AP Spirit Spammer (talk · rate)

Anon making strange changes to make it into a SoS build. I reverted it back to what it was but if it persists then an admin should look into it. Selket Shadowdancer 12:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Build not been touched in over a month, AthrunFeya 10:15, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

W/R JQ Defy Pain (talk · rate)

unfair votes. :< bitches don't know about my faction farming. ···  18:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

P/W Burning Fury (talk · rate)

2 Rates with same 'score' and same comment, and 1 with lower 'score' but still the same comment. Leaves the impression this guy is either voting on multiple accounts, or some people are just mayor suck ups. Naroya 11:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Quoting a vote that's true is often done so you don't get the same story 5 times with slightly different wording. --- -- (contribs) (talk) 13:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Team_-_AB_Zergway (talk · rate)

Rating of 0, not sure if thats allowed :\ but seems like it wasnt even worth rating..? mo0ter 12:45, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

No, not really. Rating 0 is completely allowed and even encouraged when the build looks like that. ---Chaos- 12:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Team_-_Shove_Spike (talk · rate)

MindMaze -spending hours to farm glad=/= less effectiveness Dark Chaos - Overrating rupt ability (can at most 1 skill is magebaned, which doesnt ruin spike) Readeam - Good shovespike teams are not beaten nearly everytime PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Team_-_TA_Escapeway (talk · rate)

Wielder Of Magic's vote-->this is pretty much rampageway w/ daggers + it looks worse on paper PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 16:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

A/W Phoenix's Collapse Ganker (talk · rate)

Making beginners feel good here. Peterpoho's vote is funny. ---Chaos- 09:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

R/A Death Spam (talk · rate)

TahiriVeila's vote--deep wound in optional, all sin chains are vulnerable to guardian, not failing at exaust assault makes up for lack of kd (disruption), monks protting target=counter to pretty much all sin builds PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 23:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Also any votes above a 4.0 don't have proper reasoning, or think that the build has condition removal, or just blatantly overrate it. ···  17:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Also also, FMK has no idea what he's talking about. The build doesn't pump big damage. At all. It pumps lots of small packets of damage and spreads shittery across the entire other team. ···  17:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

so remove them some1? thought u were an bm danny PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 17:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

loll? i ran for admin and declined after series of shitstorms. i don't care enough to BM, and, quite frankly, i don't play enough and i'm not a top buildwars-er by any means. ···  17:35, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Mo/any Boon-Prot (talk · rate)

Life and Pikas votes are now redundant due to build being merged into a more general article. Oh and sort this page out it's far too large. Selket Shadowdancer 17:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Done AthrunFeya 10:13, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

A/D MS Defense (talk · rate)

It's called zealous daggers. If you're running out of energy for some reason, you can stop for a few seconds to auto attack and regain some energy. --Angelus 18:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Except that this build has to auto-attack every few seconds with using whirling charge, aura of thorns, and armor of sanctity. this barely has enough energy to get through one chain if whirling and aura of thorns was used before it. I was using zealous daggers btw. Fiendly Fire 20:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Refrain from discussing on the AN. There's talk pages for a reason :) --- -- (contribs) (talk) 20:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Opps, sry. Fiendly Fire 20:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Fiendly Fire doesnt understand still, obviously. The elite is nice to spam DB for AoE so Jaigoda can probably be removed also, and in that case you can probably remove luke's, too. --Angelus 04:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Adjacent AoE is v strong in PvP. stop being terrible. ···  16:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

even besides that. MS/DB alone is still big damage --Angelus 20:17, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

So is an axe. ···  20:22, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's you who doesn't understand, tbh Angelus. Maybe you should try the build? Fiendly Fire 21:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Mo/Me Lyssa's Aura Smiter (talk · rate)

Divine Boon removed due to change. Vote wipe might be needed, since the reduction in healing kinda hurts. Toraen talk 00:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

P/W ZoomZoom Paragon (talk · rate)

90% of the votes are basically "fapfapfap, I'm bad at PvE". -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 16:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorted. AthrunFeya 10:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Me/E GM Illusion Pressure (talk · rate)

Either the low or the high votes don't reflect its effectiveness. ---Chaos- 11:28, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Team - HA Balanced Hex (talk · rate)

Maf's vote--TahiriVeila 04:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Team - TA Dual War (talk · rate)

Meine,'s vote is really stupid. Drahgal Meir 22:18, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

E/Me Jaya Bluffs Feather Farmer (talk · rate)

Lyssan55 has submitted a petty Trash vote on this build, stating a "reason" that is a clear violation of the voting rules. It is clear they never tried nor tested the build, and posted the vote out something such as spite. I request that the vote be removed Alaia Skyhawk 22:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually testing the build is not required. 22:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Still, when you read Lyssan55's "reason" it's still clearly a violation of the voting rules. It is neither "objective" nor do they show "common sense" with regard to the build's potencial which is visible when looking at and reading the skillbar shown in the article.

resolved. Lyssan was providing reasons for WELLing, not for trash voting it. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

A/Me Permaform Runner (talk · rate)

Bar has been improved for better speed and energy management. I think the trash votes are invalid now. Toraen talk 22:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Not all the issues the votes address have not been rectified. AthrunFeya 07:45, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

D/any General PvE Avatar (talk · rate)

Most of the votes are from when this was just the AoM derv, and don't apply to the current bar at all. Toraen talk 03:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Rt/Mo Energy Free Healer (talk · rate)

Exo has 0-0'd it, and several of the votes use bad reasoning. --JaiGoesMonksassin 19:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorted, I think. Removed votes that refer to an old build with recup. The latter votes from KD and Danny do bring up valid points, though. AthrunFeya 10:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Jai's vote doesn't match his reasoning. If it's not as good as Monk builds, then it shouldn't be 5-5. ···  19:05, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

It's the best a rit can run, and people can't run monk builds on their rits. Outside professions shouldn't have much influence on builds. I would rate it a bit lower, but am trying to compensate for the terrible votes (danny, drah, the short one, maybe pika). Remove those and I'll rate it down a bit more. -- Jaiwritesalot . . . 04:17, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Build:Rt/any SoS Channeling Rit is better. Drahgal Meir 04:29, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Don't vote balance. Misery Says Moo 06:22, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

A/W Imbasin (talk · rate)

Ikimonos vote contains flawed reasoning. The buld has setup time with having to cast Asuran Scan (which has aftercast delay), Critical Agility (although maintainable) and Locusts Fury. Also as proven in build talk it does not have the same single target DPS as MS/DB assuming both builds have the same buffs. Also some of the trash votes lack reasoning. Devika 15:25, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Meh, its well within the Trash catagory anyway. AthrunFeya 16:21, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Rt/R Splinter Barrage (talk · rate)

Tyraelxy's vote is wrongful reasoning to trash 1-1-0. Devika 16:10, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Sorted. AthrunFeya 16:18, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Team - Shove Spike (talk · rate)

Readem's vote, this is not beat nearly everytime, unless ppl running this is bad (leech is NOT a counter if your not fail) PWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 01:55, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

We're talking Readem here. He's talking for himself, and if he says that he almost always beats Shovespike, then he almost always does beat Shovespike. Reply on Shovespike talk if you want some llama drama. ---Chaos- 11:32, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

R/D VoS Speed Runner (talk · rate)

Shino & Jj are not my friends. Survivability doesn't matter when the runner knows what he's doing, srsly. Also, neither one comprehends how to use Serpent's in the build, which is kinda sad. ---Chaos- 16:29, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

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