The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

General Issues

General issues include (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, banning vandals, and moderating serious disputes. This section may also be used for miscellaneous issues as well as Administrative announcements. See resolved issues here.

Licensing version

See this. Page is protected, so one of you guys needs to fix it. --Wizardboy777 23:48, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

I've been talking to Gcardinal, and we're unsure which is correct, and obviously, we can't fix it until we know which is the problem, so no fix, for the moment. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:04, 22 September 2007 (CEST)


The links at the top (the words 'abandoned' and 'trash') don't seem to work right. It's a specialpage though, so it might have to be gcardinal or hhhippo that fixes it. --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 23:56, 28 September 2007 (CEST)

Odd... it times out, every time. Bug somewhere would be my bet. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 00:17, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
When you hold the mouse over them, you can see the urls they links to: '' and ''. I think it's because it's instead of It used to be wiki.pvxwiki, but I think it was changed a while back. That page probably just didn't get updated. --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 00:21, 29 September 2007 (CEST)


Some admin do something before it becomes User talk:Napalm FlameSkakid9090 01:24, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

It is over. any more posts/comments will result in an immediate ban. If I partake, Auron plx ban me. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:33, 29 September 2007 (CEST)


See above. — Skakid9090 01:30, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Resolved above. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:33, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Deleting pages

I had a thought (oh o that's never a good sign...) would it be at all possiable to make it so that normal users can delete pages BUT they can only delete pages that have expired their 2 week trash period thing (basiclly been in trash longer than 2 weeks), this way it means the site can be better maintained and admins don't have to worry about doing that kind of grunt work so to speak.PheNaxKian (T/c)Tag thumb 22:55, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes. See resolved issues here.

N/E Toxic Bile (talk · rate)

Stupidly high votes. — Skakid9090 17:10, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

can you really remove votes cos people are stupid? :O Swiftslash \\ Impale (contributions *warrior guide) 17:13, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
Yes. — Skakid9090 17:13, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

W/D Pressure Pounder (talk · rate)

Voters don't understand the purpose of the build, nor are their assumptions correct. — Skakid9090 17:18, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Removed. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 18:47, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Rt/E Critical Wandage (talk · rate)

Request removal of Skakid's vote, no real reason given. PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 17:37, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Request removal of PaintballerOWNZ's vote, no real reason given. — Skakid9090 17:38, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Lol, I gave a fine reason, and you gave no reason at all. PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 17:41, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
Mine's fine as well, shitty builds deserve 0-0-0. — Skakid9090 17:42, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Better? — Skakid9090 17:44, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Yep =D PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 17:48, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Really fixed. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 18:47, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Though I would point out the following:

Lord Belar 
Wanders just don't work well. A bow or a spear is far more effective than this, and this is only moderately effective in ra.
Its also been tried many times before in various forms, and unless I missed an update, wands still suck for DPS. 
Reason: Does more DPS than frenzying warrior with 16 weapon mastery. 
Removed by: Edru viransu

Immediately followed by:

Very nice wand build =D. Good DPS. There have been ones made before, but none as effective as this! 
Reason: It`s still a wand build.
Removed by: Krowman

I sense inconsistency. --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 21:37, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

It's a wander, stop bitching about it. — Skakid9090 21:47, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
Wands may be good in World of Warcraft, but this isn't World of Warcraft. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 22:22, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
If it is a good build, let it stay! I mean, seriously, if you don't like spears, you can't just remove all good votes on paragons saying "spears r sux" PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 22:25, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
I like wands-- if you're using them to cast spells, not attack. Wands aren't intended for attacking, they have the same attack speed as hammers, and deal far less damage. You can't even use attack skills (except deft strike) with them. There isn't a wand wrapping of sundering for a reason. Lord Belar 22:44, 29 September 2007 (CEST)
Again, that's like saying "spearz are not ment to cast spells, they ar ment 2 attax with" yet monks hold them. PaintballerSig The Paintballer (T/C) 04:18, 30 September 2007 (CEST)

A/E_Elemental_Sword_Farmer (talk · rate)

vote by Mrful wants checking plz. PheNaxKian (T/c)Tag thumb 20:04, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Dealt with. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 20:51, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Me/E FCM-Surger (talk · rate)

Drago's vote could use looking at. Lord Belar 22:47, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

W/D Pious Devastator (talk · rate)

LARGE DAMAGE!!!!!! is probably not a good reason for a perfect build. — Skakid9090 23:08, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

E/Mo Mind Blast Bonder (talk · rate)

It has 1 elite, and 2 non-elite energy management skills. — Skakid9090 00:16, 30 September 2007 (CEST)

Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here.

Rate Tab

This is directed at gcard or anyone who has coding experience. Is there anyway for you to be able to have the rate tab available while on the discussion tab? It's kinda annoying to go to the build tab again just to rate something after adding to the discussion. --Lost 05:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I agree, it is a lil annoying... hardly priority though. Search system>this. --User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:58, 24 August 2007 (CEST)
I'm working on it, but it's difficult since the tab on the talk page has to trigger an action on another page. Be patient... – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Vote Removal

Since you guys keep the back-end work pretty much to GCardinal and Hhhippo, I'll request here an ability to restore removed votes. Shouldn't be too hard, and it is easier than posting on the users talk pages and getting them to do it themselves. Less aggravating too. Thanks. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 05:45, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Implemented. Please test and report problems here. A reason has to be given even though it's not shown anywhere atm. (This is needed for RecentRatings to see the difference between a new/edited vote and a restored one.) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Recent Ratings

Fixed a bug that caused the vote timestamps to be wrong for readers outside GMT+2. The times are shown in the reader's local time now. Note that atm, only the last update (that is, submission, edit, rollback or restore) of each vote is shown in Recent Ratings. There are plans to improve on that.– HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Skills that don't scale

  • Smite Condition.
  • Spotless Mind.
  • Shadow Fang.
  • Signet of Illusions.
  • Castigation Signet.
  • Plague Touch.

Skills that scale incorrectly

  • Sundering Weapon
  • Angorodon's Gaze
  • Radiant Scythe
  • Aura Slicer
  • Shell Shock

EOTN Title Specific Skills

The 50 EOTN PvE Title Track based skills don't work when trying to create a build. Currently, I have left them as optional and inserted a comment underneath which says about the skills. ---Andyhhp

That's because they haven't been added yet. Єяøהħ 19:47, 10 September 2007 (CEST)

Div Frames

They don't work. Some examples of hide-able div frames are this and this. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 16:15, 16 September 2007 (CEST)

What do you mean? Єяøהħ 16:57, 16 September 2007 (CEST)
Click the show/hide buttons. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ 16:59, 16 September 2007 (CEST)
Sorry, at frist I thought those were PvX links. I'm sitting here thinking "they work fine for me..." Єяøהħ 17:05, 16 September 2007 (CEST)

Auto set primary attributes@0

It would be nice if PvXcode would assume values for all attributes (or at least primary ones) to be set to 0 unless otherwise stated. If time's an issue, though, ignore this and work on things like PvXsmall and PvXmicro. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 16:40, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Speaking as a programmer, there are some things you'd have to watch with that:
  • A) You don't want it to do that for title-specific skills.
  • B) Builds that don't have any attributes listed should probably show the whole range, that might be a bigger issue with pvxsmall/micro, cause the whole point of using those is to take up less room and leaving out the attribs accomplishes that pretty well.
  • C) Just displaying single skills outside of builds (just <pvxbig>[Shock]</pvxwiki>, for example) should show the whole range.
And yes, having it do that would be nice. I keep having to go around putting @0's in glyph of lesser energy's. --Wizardboy777 01:15, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

Profession links in PvXBig

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but when you click on the profession header of a PvX bar, it takes you to an official wiki site. For illustration, clicking on either 'Elementalist' or 'Assassin' takes you to the official wiki, while clicking on the skills and attributes themselves takes you to GWiki. <pvxbig> [build prof=eleme/assassin airmag=12+1+1 energy=8+1 shadow=10 deadly=2][mind shock][lightning strike][lightning bolt][blinding flash][recall][dash][deadly paradox][feigned neutrality][/build] </pvxbig> Like I said, I'm not sure if this qualifies as a bug or just an oddity, but I figured I'd bring it to your attention to be safe. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 04:22, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

Watchlist bug

Not sure if this is a bug with MediaWiki or what, but I have the page Build:Me/N Well of Illusions on my watchlist, and even after I visit it several times it still thinks I haven't looked at it since its last update (its still in bold). Other pages act normally. This has happened in the past, but it goes away after a while. --Wizardboy777 00:50, 14 September 2007 (CEST)

Happens every once. I use the mark all as read function to bypass it. Still a bug tho Swiftslash \\ Impale (contributions *warrior guide) 16:56, 14 September 2007 (CEST)
Ditto. –Ichigo724Ichigo-signature 17:07, 14 September 2007 (CEST)
Have seen that, too. Seems to be a Mediawiki thing. I think it's something like the wiki believes a page is on the watchlist but the talk page is not, or vice versa. The one that is not on the watchlist will not trigger the 'read' status. A workaround is to unwatch and watch again. Make sure that both page and talk page are watched (that should usually be the case automatically). – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 04:06, 15 September 2007 (CEST)

Template Codes

GW:EN skills are wrong, not your fault, but documenting it. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 21:14, 20 September 2007 (CEST)

Checkuser links

I don't know if this is possible, but a Checkuser link next to people's names in Recent Changes and Ratings. Like Scarymonsterclan (Talk | contribs | Checkuser)... that would be nice, it's not to hard to do it now, but sounds like if it's possible it'd be an easy code. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 22:34, 22 September 2007 (CEST)

Distracting Strike

Says sword attack, although it is a melee attack. — Skakid9090 02:24, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Yeah, i noticed that too.--Victory is Mine! Victoryisyours (talk/pvxcontribs) 13:15, 27 September 2007 (CEST)


Timestamps on the ratings would be nice. Don't think it would be hard to implement, but adding them to all the old ratings might be tough. Not a big deal, but if possible, add it. --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 22:44, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

Stop reading my thoughts, I'm working on that ;-) – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)
I has mad mind-reading skillz. :P --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 23:23, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

More ratings stuff

I see this in the recent ratings: '16:52 . . Team - Conflagrated Coalition; Rating: 2.45 (acceptable) . . E:2 U:2 I:5' It's rated a 2.45, but says 'acceptable'. I thought the lowest 'acceptable' score was 2.5 --Wizardboy777 SigWizardboy777(T/C) 23:22, 28 September 2007 (CEST)

That may be a result of an original discrepancy as to whether we wanted to round votes up or not. Not a major issue but one that I guess should probably be fixed. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 00:24, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

Yet more ratings stuff....

I was wondering (this may not be possiable at all jsut a thought though) would it be at all possiable to make a template or something where it automaticly updates the catagory it's in (e.g if something was at 4.49 in the good catagory and someone votted and it went to 4.5 or 4.51 to make it great, instead of having to manualy switch it it would automaticly do it.)PheNaxKian (T/c)Tag thumb 21:22, 29 September 2007 (CEST)

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