PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

General Issues

General issues include (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, banning vandals, and moderating serious disputes. This section may also be used for miscellaneous issues as well as Administrative announcements. See resolved issues here.

Licensing version

See this. Page is protected, so one of you guys needs to fix it. --Wizardboy777 23:48, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

I've been talking to Gcardinal, and we're unsure which is correct, and obviously, we can't fix it until we know which is the problem, so no fix, for the moment. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:04, 22 September 2007 (CEST)

I think we have to use version 2.0. We took over quite some content from Guild Wiki, and they use 2.0 with no note on the possibility of silent upgrades. So we have to put at least the pages which originated there under 2.0. Anyway, we should put up a consistent statement asap. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 20:32, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

E/any_Rodgort's_Shackles (talk · rate)

There are five versions of this build on PvX as linked to on the build page with nearly identical usage; they should really be merged, imo... --Mafaraxas 23:03, 11 December 2007 (CET)

Delete all of them, imo. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 23:30, 31 December 2007 (EST)

[1]

404 not found. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:13, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Shouldn't this be under coding issues? --GuildofMoses 16:34, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Website addresses are not codes. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:35, 21 December 2007 (EST)

[2] Also 404. --Mafaraxas 18:16, 22 December 2007 (EST)

This is the same issue as this. As in, they both don't work for the same reason. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)

User talk:71.229.204.25

Each "edit" link edits one section below what it should, and the last one starts a new section. (At least, that's how it is for me.) -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 23:50, 24 December 2007 (EST)

The first two section headers only had one = around them :O ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:24, 25 December 2007 (EST)

But it's still broken >.> I'll keep looking at it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:25, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Ok, now it's fixed. I moved the {{TOCright}} up to the top instead of having it after the first two sections. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:27, 25 December 2007 (EST)

User:124.191.74.29

PvX:NPA--VictoryisSantas 14:06, 25 December 2007 (EST)

Is this really a big deal to you or Coloneh? I'd just brush it off. - Krowman {{sysop}} 14:34, 25 December 2007 (EST)

PvXwiki:Style and formatting

What happened to the template which you could just copy/past to pages? — ク Eloc 貢 18:32, 26 December 2007 (EST)

It uses the <pre> tag for preformatted text, and that's currently broken. If you hit "view source" you can go down and copy+paste it from there. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 22:55, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Could we perhaps change the pre tags to nowiki tags for the time being or am i missing something that means we can't do that?PheNaxKian 11:02, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Hmm, could we unblock it for a little while? It got an idea to make it work without a pre tag. — ク Eloc 貢 13:06, 27 December 2007 (EST)

There. That work for you guys? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 14:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Works fine for me now-nice idea of putting that comment in pre btw (the one mentioning a copy.)-do we know why Pre tags aren't working anymore yet?PheNaxKian 16:36, 27 December 2007 (EST)

I was just gonna say, put like 2 spaces on the first line and then it works just like a pre tag. — ク Eloc 貢 16:23, 28 December 2007 (EST)

User:Ckow

Please permaban this account, moved to User:Dont (due to signature issues). Thanks in advance. ĐONT*CKOW 18:58, 3 January 2008 (EST)

If your signature is as above (dont ckow), there's no need to move your account. If your signature is dont talk as on the dont userpage, then you do. Which are you using? (I just want to confirm that you're making an informed decision.) -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:27, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Lt Death (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Checkuser please? — UberizAwesome 22:43, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Similar name, completely different IP. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:28, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes. See resolved issues here.

W/Mo HH Sanctum Cay Runner (talk · rate)

Klomi's vote, since balth is included now, and Elocs vote, since it suggests defy pain as a better alternative to HH.Bob fregman 19:16, 22 December 2007 (EST)

elocs vote is still there and still wrong, have we given up on striking his votes?Bob fregman 19:30, 31 December 2007 (EST)

I'm removing all votes of mine that I find.. — ク Eloc 貢 02:23, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Got hacked? --Mafaraxas 03:32, 3 January 2008 (EST)

No, enough people hate me now how it is. — ク Eloc 貢 05:43, 3 January 2008 (EST)

P/any Screaming Runner (talk · rate)

Author vote-Gives a 5 in effectivness when he clearly states how vulnerable the build is..PheNaxKian 07:28, 24 December 2007 (EST)

R/Rt Splinter Shutdown (talk · rate)

Author vote-not a very good explanation, just says how he thinks it's better than a barrage build..PheNaxKian 07:30, 24 December 2007 (EST)

A/W Empty Palm Spiker (talk · rate)

The Gates Assassin's reasoning doesn't qualify the build as good. Shen ^{has cookies} 09:30, 25 December 2007 (EST)

N/E Corrupt Warder (talk · rate)

Eloc and Terror's votes, Eloc, dont edit my comments.--VictoryisSantas 13:44, 25 December 2007 (EST)

A/W SP Trampling Ox Assassin (talk · rate)

The Gates Assassin's vote. Innovation = is this meta or will this be meta, not is this new? — UberizAwesome 02:40, 26 December 2007 (EST)

I have no clue where the is this meta or will this be meta ideas are comming from. When i read innovation, it asks how "new" the idea is. Does it use a "new" way of dealing with an old task. And is it expected to be the prototype of new builds. This sin build is neither, since it was taken from the prototype SP sin.Bob fregman 09:07, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Screw the trivial stuff, look at the complete falsity of his vote. Shen ^{has cookies} 09:11, 26 December 2007 (EST)

I agree fully, but the only point brought of by the original poster was innovation, which i agree with. After looking at his vote, i think it should be removed, a sentiment which i echoed not long ago on the builds talk page.Bob fregman 12:03, 26 December 2007 (EST)

I'd say that we leave this alone, unless this falls down a category from people rating it down simply because it has basic counters and no self heal. Then we should complain about it imo.--Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 20:20, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Now, someone needs to sort things out. Shen(contribs) 15:48, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Having the best SP build out there in the good category is a disgrace. Remove the low votes that are voting low just to be rebels. Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 15:55, 31 December 2007 (EST)

I agree. I also think that not having the best Withdraw Hexes build out there in the great category would be a disgrace... oh.. wait... --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 04:08, 1 January 2008 (EST)

See my user page. –Ichigo724 17:36, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Now listed as a good build instead of great. — UberizAwesome 19:54, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Rt/any High Energy Rit Lord (talk · rate)

Couple socks. Shen ^{has cookies} 17:40, 26 December 2007 (EST)

N/Rt Lostsoul Hero Healer (talk · rate)

Heavy Yield's reasoning misrepresents the build's abilities. Eloc's is based on an unfounded comparison. Shen ^{has cookies} 18:55, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Eloc's removed his. Shen ^{has cookies} 14:04, 27 December 2007 (EST)

A/Rt Fox's Promise PvE Sin (talk · rate)

Massive's vote makes an unfounded comparison. hen [contribs] 13:43, 28 December 2007 (EST)

Look at Selket's Vote on talk page. hen [contribs] 14:50, 28 December 2007 (EST)

/agree.--Shadowsin 02:36, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Yes look at my vote. Selket Shadowdancer 09:59, 31 December 2007 (EST)

All you did was take out the blatantly wrong part, and left the part implicitly relating to the blatantly wrong part. The fact you've realized how wrong you were and still are means your vote needs to be stricken regardless. Shen(contribs) 19:27, 31 December 2007 (EST)

What is said in my vote is true and reflects the build pretty honestly. It's got a Good rating from me so I really don't see the point in complaining further about it when I've reviewed my vote, and adjusted it accordingly. Stop trying to force me to change my opinion. Selket Shadowdancer 19:31, 31 December 2007 (EST)

The chain won't kill anyone outright and is conditional on you being the very first into the fight. This is an irrelevant point, and this irrelevance is why you changed your vote in the first place. This is not a plausible reason to rate this build anything other than great. I'm not trying to change your opinion. I'm addressing your logical fallacies, in the hope you will listen to reason. Shen(contribs) 19:35, 31 December 2007 (EST)

I don't see anything irrelevant about it because it is true. Selket Shadowdancer 19:45, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Are you forgetting why you changed your vote? Shen(contribs) 19:51, 31 December 2007 (EST)

No not at all. Selket Shadowdancer 19:53, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Stop sucking at indenting. Care to explain then, just to make sure we've got things straightened out. Shen(contribs) 19:56, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Stop being rude. My vote explains all I need to say about the build, stop making such a big fuss over it. Selket Shadowdancer 19:58, 31 December 2007 (EST)

You refusing to address me shows how little you understand the build. I can't support my case if you are going to give up. Shen(contribs) 20:00, 31 December 2007 (EST)

No my refusing to address you is refusing to argue the matter with you any further. I don't have to awnser to you over a friggin build on a website. Selket Shadowdancer 20:04, 31 December 2007 (EST)

So giving up means you can't come up with anything to support your fallicious vote, and that it should therefore be removed. Shen(contribs) 20:06, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Basically, now both of you stop. Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 20:08, 31 December 2007 (EST)

It would be much easier if he stopped trying to instigate a fucking arguement everywhere I go. His tone is rude, and undermining as if I'm some sort of child. I don't come here to put up with this sort of behaviour so fuck this I'm not bothering with this site anymore. It's easier to just not come here than have to put up with it. Later. Selket Shadowdancer 20:13, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Team - QQway (talk · rate)

Jujin's vote shows he never finished reading the skill description of Cry. Guild's vote is disproportionately low, and the comparison to the SH ele is questionable. --Mafaraxas 20:11, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Despite the fact it is true that it's a pain in the butt to find all the people needed? Anyway, just saying a team of SH Eles can do a better job at nuking. --GuildofDeals 20:22, 31 December 2007 (EST)

Rapta's vote, too: failing to see the point for armor-ignoring damage, implying there may as well not be a PvE team category since "Any random setup can kill effectively and survive by throwing in your everyday make-party-invincible-paragon," which really doesn't apply to whether or not the build -works-, and saying the rit needs splinter is misjudging the point of the warrior (not to mention speccing into channeling would gimp the rit's attributes). Btw, can anyone point me towards the Style & Formatting for team builds? I don't see anything specifically for teams, though I did cut a couple corners from S&F for single builds for the monks and necros. --Mafaraxas 08:27, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Read: lack of. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 20:09, 1 January 2008 (EST)

A/W HB Shadow Prison Sin (talk · rate)

Votes wipe, thanks. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:14, 1 January 2008 (EST)

A/Me_Perma_Shadow_Boss_Farmer (talk · rate)

Guild of deals vote, claims you can't keep shadow form up-you can (we had a similar situation with another build a while ago and everyone conceded in the end you can)PheNaxKian 15:31, 1 January 2008 (EST)

unfortunately, he's right, you can't keep it up anymore. when deadly paradox ws 50% you could, but not anymore.— Cheese Slaya (Talk) 15:51, 1 January 2008 (EST)

urgh not again-you can, but you ahve to time it perfectly you cast arcne echo, shadow form when shodow form is jsut under half recharged cast the echo version and then start your chain again when you can (you jsut about pull it off) rember your using 20% long enchant mod as well......PheNaxKian 16:10, 1 January 2008 (EST)

The fact is u can, and Ive done it many, many times after the nerf. I would also like to protest the votes that relate this build to the A/E boss farmer as the A/Me is designed to farm things that that build cant, like Fenrir and Jacqui The Reaver. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 06:27, 2 January 2008 (EST)

E/any Dual Attunement Air Spiker (talk · rate)

5 in universality doesn't mean 3 in effectiveness, when taking into account the general purpose of the build. Shen(contribs) 19:39, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Team - Shove Spike (talk · rate)

Og lo's vote. Rock-paper-scissors, etc. --Pentient Engine Grammaticus 06:57, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Done. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 21:26, 3 January 2008 (EST)

E/W UW Fire Nuker Solo (talk · rate)

Fire Tock's vote misrepresents the build's capabilities. Shen(contribs) 08:15, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Armond nuked it. Shen(contribs) 20:47, 2 January 2008 (EST)

How appropriate. :P Lord Belar 20:48, 2 January 2008 (EST)

Me/N Angorodon's Parasite (talk · rate)

Not sure how to sum it up. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 00:46, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Archive. Lord Belar 19:27, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Was usable for about a week, and wasn't too prominent. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 20:40, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Revote. Lord Belar 21:00, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Was never really good. We're having a repeat of the touch ranger with this one. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:30, 4 January 2008 (EST)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Recent changes RSS and atom feeds

Don't seem to work. [3] [4]. Both of them tell me This feed contains code errors. --Wizardboy777(T/C) 00:45, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Rate Tab

This is directed at gcard or anyone who has coding experience. Is there anyway for you to be able to have the rate tab available while on the discussion tab? It's kinda annoying to go to the build tab again just to rate something after adding to the discussion. --Lost 05:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I agree, it is a lil annoying... hardly priority though. Search system>this. -- frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:58, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I'm working on it, but it's difficult since the tab on the talk page has to trigger an action on another page. Be patient... – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

There was a solution to this which poke used in his GWWiki tools on gww. I'll point you to it when I have the time too search for it. -- (gem / talk) 00:59, 7 November 2007 (CET)

Rating Page protection

Can we get a way to protect a discussion page? It would be nice when a dispute like the Toucher happens... lock it so that votes can't be removed. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 20:14, 30 October 2007 (CET)

Just to add on to Frvwfr2's comment: in that situation, it should lock the vote page in such a way that votes cannot be removed nor can new votes be added. *Defiant Elements* +talk 03:44, 1 November 2007 (CET)

That too. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 01:31, 4 November 2007 (CET)

GraceExpired

Would it be possible to auto-tag Stubs and Trial builds that have been unchanged for 2 weeks, or even automatically enter them into this category? — Rapta (talk|contribs) 03:29, 6 November 2007 (CET)

I think this is still being worked on, its not that simple lol. --Peter 10:24, 29 November 2007 (CET)

Build Master Implementation

So, as per general consensus, we're planning on doing a trial run to test out the impact of BMs on PvX. From everything I've been told, it shouldn't be terribly hard to add the code necessary to create a BM category, but, it does have to be done. *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:01, 1 December 2007 (CET)

Banned Users Voting

Hasn't been resolved. — UberizAwesome 18:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Preferences

Hopefully this is just me, but when I go to change my "nickname", my uhh... de facto sig, I need to change my preferences at least twice till it stays. hen [contribs] 20:56, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Happens to me sometimes too. I'll sometimes change my sig, but when I go to use it, it reverts to my previous sig. Yes, I do save it too. --GuildofDeals 08:04, 28 December 2007 (EST)

More of mediawiki issue. It is just so much stuff going on with proxy, caching and so on, things like that can get lost in the way. gcardinal 11:59, 31 December 2007 (EST)

my stalklist

last time i checked it was "my watchlist" -.- cKow^Dont 16:46, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Personally, I'm just glad I didn't break the wiki when I changed it. :P Talk:Main Page#Stalklist -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Just for the record, Special:Watchlist still directs properly. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

It's ok now.. just looked wierd^^ cKow^Dont 21:38, 29 December 2007 (EST)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Seed of Life

Seed of life doesn't seem to be effected by @xx. see here SoL is set @7 (at rank 7 as indicated in the note section) this should make it last 4 seconds, however it still says it lasts 1...5 seconds. PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:15, 21 November 2007 (CET)

That's true of all title-track skills I believe. *Defiant Elements* +talk 23:54, 21 November 2007 (CET)

Not all-i think on the main page there's something down near the bottom about it and it has something to do with the asura title track where @xx works.PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:07, 22 November 2007 (CET)

Cool idea i think

Could we maybe get a bar sayin like Crit rate and DPS on weapon based builds? like for a warr have Crit rate based on wep mastery, and a DPS based on wep attribute. Mehbe not worth it, but useful nonetheless. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:22, 10 December 2007 (CET)

Would it be like base DPS? I dunno how useful that might be in some builds. Shen(contribs) 02:38, 10 December 2007 (CET)

True... Maybe just crit hit chance then, but that has negligible use except for on Sins, but then they use a lot of crit increasing skills too. Maybe just forget it. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:42, 10 December 2007 (CET)

I think that would be quite kool, but then you have to think of how to get it only on rangers/warriors/ass. etc. and not jsut casters with a wand -.-. also on the idea of adding things-equipment template code(s) maybe? would mean we don't have to just list it....i think (would have to for PvE builds i guess....)PheNaxKian (T/c) 21:16, 11 December 2007 (CET)

PvE Attributes Counter

It would be nice. Basically the ability to put the PvE rank into the attributes and let it calculate how the skill works. Just my opinion IMO. --GuildofMoses 10:16, 24 December 2007 (EST)

[Skill@1...12], if ever the need arose. One can also click the actual skill. Though it'd be pointless to have a set attribute for such a variable attribute. Should a minimum value be prudent, simply note so. Shen ^{has cookies} 10:22, 24 December 2007 (EST)

That doesn't work properly though, it displays what rank you should be at but it doesn't supply the relevant information, what damage/healing etc. it does it still has the range in.PheNaxKian 13:49, 27 December 2007 (EST)

PvX Convert/Decode

They both don't work. — ク Eloc 貢 16:31, 25 December 2007 (EST)

seems like some links are wrong (in the toolbox on the mainpage and the redirects of the submit buttons). just modify the urls manually: add "/wiki" between "...pvxwiki.com" and "/index.php" well.. Vespertine 09:16, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Build Template

Would it be possible to add the blank build template on to the toolbar instead of Styles and Formatting-> View Source->Copy->Pasting it? Would be helpful imo.--Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 17:54, 26 December 2007 (EST)

User:Teh Uber Pwnzer/Template:Blank Build imo. — UberizAwesome 03:09, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Well, we have the Bold text on the toolbar, which all you have to do is put 3 's around the word. And since this is a build site, you might as well have the build template on the toolbar. Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (EST)

You mean the toolbar on the editor? Cuz that would actually be pretty awesome. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 02:57, 1 January 2008 (EST)

New messages

Everytime I go to main page, it says I have a new message, but I don't. — ク Eloc 貢 03:59, 29 December 2007 (EST)

it's a cache error. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 03:00, 1 January 2008 (EST)

I think this goes here.

Uh... --71.229 08:58, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Looks fine to me-I can see the icon....PheNaxKian 09:07, 3 January 2008 (EST)

All (most?) images show up like that when they're first uploaded. My guess is a cache error, but I'm probablky wrong. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 09:24, 3 January 2008 (EST)

o i c. Yeah, clearing my cache fixed it. --71.229 09:57, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, all the wintersday entries were doing that for me when I first uploaded them. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:57, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Clean up please

Serveral bugs has been fixed, so a nice clean up is needed. gcardinal 03:10, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Fixed. — Skakid HoHoHo 13:01, 22 December 2007 (EST)

PvX Decode and PvX Convert Are Broken

http://www.pvxwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:PvXdecode should link to: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Special:PvXDecode on the main page and the Submit Query button code is broken as well. Rolo 19:23, 3 January 2008 (EST)