PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard

The Admin noticeboard

There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General issues include (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, banning vandals, and moderating serious disputes. This section may also be used for miscellaneous issues as well as Administrative announcements. See resolved issues here.

Licensing version

See this. Page is protected, so one of you guys needs to fix it. --Wizardboy777 23:48, 21 September 2007 (CEST)

I've been talking to Gcardinal, and we're unsure which is correct, and obviously, we can't fix it until we know which is the problem, so no fix, for the moment. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:04, 22 September 2007 (CEST)

I think we have to use version 2.0. We took over quite some content from Guild Wiki, and they use 2.0 with no note on the possibility of silent upgrades. So we have to put at least the pages which originated there under 2.0. Anyway, we should put up a consistent statement asap. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 20:32, 3 October 2007 (CEST)

[1]

404 not found. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:13, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Shouldn't this be under coding issues? --GuildofMoses 16:34, 21 December 2007 (EST)

Website addresses are not codes. — Skakid HoHoHo 16:35, 21 December 2007 (EST)

[2] Also 404. --Mafaraxas 18:16, 22 December 2007 (EST)

This is the same issue as this. As in, they both don't work for the same reason. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:53, 22 December 2007 (EST)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:06, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Immensely rubbish follow-up suggestons

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Category:Premade_builds These things need a complete makeover, especcially the suggestions and follow-builds. This one for instance: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/any_Prison_Assassin_%28primer_follow-up%29, They are full of typos as well. Seb2net (Talk) 17:03, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I agree. Especially about the second one. That build (and im assuming all of its class are) is in violation of PvX:AR. Quote from PvX:AR: "we do not attempt to retain builds that are purposefully inferior because they are designed for persons without access to money, skills, elites, etc." Note "without access to... skills." Because these begginners do not have access to the great number of skills that all the rest of us do does not mean that we should put on some horrible build that would get rated a .89 in the vetting system. I move to delete these builds. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 17:10, 8 January 2008 (EST)

However, the idea of having a guide section for new PvP'ers isn't half bad, we just need to direct them to builds which actually work :WELL. Seb2net (Talk) 17:12, 8 January 2008 (EST)

Note that the Premade builds section is strictly for historical documentation purposes, and are not to be mixed up with the main builds listing. They are suggestions from ANet, so read at your own risk. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:18, 8 January 2008 (EST)

In that case, we're going to have to scrap the SP guide entirely. --71.229 17:19, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I say anet has a few hundred people who can make builds, while pvx has tens of thousands (since we document other peoples making of builds, their build ideas go to wiki). So the way I see it, screw anets ideas and stick to our own. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 17:23, 8 January 2008 (EST)

But do you really want to give up the comedic value of the Hamstorm? --71.229 17:26, 8 January 2008 (EST)

We should make something like Template:Premade build message to put at the top of the premade builds and point out what rapta said. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:28, 8 January 2008 (EST)

I reckon we should have some sort of competition for the best "premade build" template XD (mainly because i want to make a template that could be used).PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:11, 13 January 2008 (EST)

98.192.25.143 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Second vandalism. Doesn't really look like it, but considering his first one was to the old IWAY, it should be treated like one imo. --71.229.204.25 20:19, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Thanks, Wizardboy. :D --71.229.204.25 20:24, 11 January 2008 (EST)

:D I blocked him for two weeks, then realized PvX:DIS says 1 month for second vandalism from an IP, so I had to figure out how to unblock him so I could block him for longer ;) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 20:27, 11 January 2008 (EST)

First time you've used the unblock function, eh? :P --71.229.204.25 20:37, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Yeah, and it's hard to find. The only place I could find it was on Special:Ipblocklist ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 20:39, 11 January 2008 (EST)

That would be why I have that linked on my userpage :P -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 13:32, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Coolbam13 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Checkuser with User:Im2smart4u20 plx. –Ichigo724 13:08, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Well, not really necessary, as they have the same char names and all. But "they"'re voting on the same build with a 2 min diff. –Ichigo724 13:09, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Not identical IPs, but very similar. Plus, same character names and same guild. Someone else should look into/deal with it, though. I have a prior obligation in RL (:O) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:14, 19 January 2008 (EST)

I use 2 computers with similar IP's. It's all too easy to have similar IPs on different account. It's blatently obvious that they are socks.Bob fregman 13:18, 19 January 2008 (EST)

This account has been permanently banned. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 14:33, 19 January 2008 (EST)

71.253.245.205 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Vandalism on my userpage. See this. Im pretty sure it was User:Shogunshen, so u might want to check the IP of his account just to be sure. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:51, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Blocked for a week. Ressmonkey, atm, there are a number of people who'd love to do that. Don't throw around accusations, because it pisses people off. Plus, I already checkuser any IPs I ban. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:56, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Ok, it was just that it happens to coinside very nicely with this comment that pretty much destroyed his case, but that works 4 me. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:59, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Wow, I just saw this. I'm frankly appalled you'd accuse me. Shen(contribs) 15:39, 21 January 2008 (EST)

So you accuse shen of vandalizing your page because you think you beat him in an argument? — Vıctoȓƴışƴouȓş (talk/pvxcontribs) 16:31, 21 January 2008 (EST)

That and the fact that the edits were 5 minutes apart, so he was the last person I couldve pissed off. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:52, 21 January 2008 (EST)

LOL HAY GUYZ WATS GOIN ON? --71.229.204.25 16:57, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Llamas have funny names. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:59, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

P/any Echo Mending (talk · rate)

Swift Thief's vote. Shen(contribs) 22:09, 17 January 2008 (EST)

But thatll trash it and its got such a cool name. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 22:13, 17 January 2008 (EST)

Fixed. *Defiant Elements* +talk 02:26, 18 January 2008 (EST)

A/any Hidden Spike (talk · rate)

Darius179's vote. 1: Complains about lack of shadow step when there are two optional slots. 2: Recommends a skill which makes no sense whatsoever. (recharge, damage) 3: Universality vote makes no sense as build is adaptable to any place. Seb2net (Talk) 08:32, 18 January 2008 (EST)

You don't list a Shadow Step as a variant. You misunderstand Universality, and are wrong in making claims for the build based on your misconception. Shen(contribs) 10:07, 18 January 2008 (EST)

k, just wanted to clear it up. Seb2net (Talk) 10:17, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Mo/E SoD Monk (talk · rate)

RA/TA tags have been removed, votes relating to it should be too. Also, if its still good, something should be done of votes complaining about skill balancing, in particular, Tycn's. Shen(contribs) 10:07, 18 January 2008 (EST)

A/Me Perma Shadow Boss Farmer (talk · rate)

Ajmaresh's vote. I can think of a very great example of a worse build: User:Mgrinshpon/Leet/A/Mo Pressure Resser. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Skakid got it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:23, 18 January 2008 (EST)

Team_-_Triple_Necro_Vanquish (talk · rate)

Og Lo cant be serious. 14:45, 19 January 2008 (EST)

I think he is, but hes being stupid. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:47, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Removed. Also removed GuildofDeal's vote, for the time being. -Auron 19:04, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Rt/Mo Warmonger's Support (talk · rate)

Hasn't been nerfed to Other section. Regardless, one should question votes made before additional skill balances have been implemented. Shen(contribs) 21:02, 19 January 2008 (EST)

R/any Scout's Haste (talk · rate)

This shouldn't even have been vetted, in my opinion. Shen(contribs) 22:10, 19 January 2008 (EST)

So it's got a 2.49, and is set to be trashed, but it needs to be well'ed, as sufficient reasoning has been provided. Shen(contribs) 22:38, 19 January 2008 (EST)

A/any Shattering Assault (talk · rate)

Crossfire's vote assumes this sin spikes. Shen(contribs) 22:28, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Rt/Mo 330hp Vengeful Spirit Bonder (talk · rate)

Alleskapot's vote. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 04:31, 20 January 2008 (EST)

One of those people that, for some fucktarded reason, haunts the pages they voted to make sure their crap vote stays... -- Mafaraxas 11:58, 20 January 2008 (EST)

A/W Coward Assassin (talk · rate)

Unexist's vote is wrong now that flail has been switched to flurry and that the sin deosnt even spike. And Shogunshen's also is wrong about the same things as it draws from unexist's vote. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:59, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Changed. Shen(contribs) 13:12, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Team - Slaver's Exile (talk · rate)

Gate assassins vote. Don't see how if the only problem is that it's slow that it gets a 3 in effectiveness.PheNaxKian (T/c) 13:35, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Me/any HB Languor Mesmer (talk · rate)

Not surviving in a split just means it doesn't work if you attempt to fit it in any team other than a specially suited one. Should one argue conversely, that is, effectiveness takes a toll because it can't split, such a flaw would not warrant a 4 in universality. Shen(contribs) 17:41, 20 January 2008 (EST)

He changed his vote. Shen(contribs) 15:41, 21 January 2008 (EST)

=D Belgianbronco 15:47, 21 January 2008 (EST)

A/R Way of Disruption (talk · rate)

VIktor's vote, the build has an IAS. *Defiant Elements* +talk 18:28, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Cant you get it? --- Ressmonkey (talk) 18:41, 20 January 2008 (EST)

To avoid any potential accusations of bias, he chose to defer to another 'neutral' party. Shen(contribs) 18:42, 20 January 2008 (EST)

O i c, its his build. My bad. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 18:43, 20 January 2008 (EST)

N/A Toxic Chill Spiker (talk · rate)

Seeing as Deadly Arts caster's can't deal with the DP nerf, the build doesn't constitute a comparison between other Caster Sins, so Zuranthium's vote is invalid. Lillith Abbadon misunderstands universality. And even if he did, the reasoning for effectiveness would be enough to contradict the 5 in universality. Shen(contribs) 19:57, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Team - TA Brutal Quick Shooters (talk · rate)

User:Shogunshen's vote. Guardian + distracting shot = no more guardian. "Parasitic Bond > this"? What does that even mean? Cuz if he thinks that brutal weapon is like forked arrow in that it fails when hexed, im gonna have to lol. Also, expert focus is neccessary to energy management, so no there isnt apply poison. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, about Brutal Weapon... Shen(contribs) 21:14, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, what? Only fails under no enchantments, which this build only has 1 of: holy veil. Lern 2 read. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:16, 20 January 2008 (EST)

I know. That's why I changed my vote. Shen(contribs) 21:18, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Your vote is still wrong as you sadi that a warrior has more DPS than one of these rangers. Go test on the master of damage. I used a Shock Axe with 13 strength and 14 axe mastery for 94 seconds with frenzy on constantly. I got 43 damage per second, which may be slightly low since I used a zealous axe, but it was 15^50. I did the same thing with one of these rangers. I used a 15^50 zealous recurve bow over 100 seconds and got 51 damage per second (no brutal weapon too). Now the thing is, this was vs a stationary target with a constant IAS for the warrior, while people usually run from warriors, causing them to drop their IAS's, lowering their adrenaline flow, adn causing a much lower DPS. Now a ranger doesnt have to worry about this. As long as a target doesnt leave range, even if they move the DPS is still the same. So explain to me how a warrior is better here? --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2008 (EST)

Knockdowns and adrenal spikes makes warriors a lot more of a threat than those rangers. Mike Tycn(punch out) 00:36, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Only knockdowns, I was spamming adrenaline skills. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 06:24, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Adrenal spikes. The ability of warriors to quickly spike down targets on low health forces monks to keep protting and healing their team members up to near full health, which pressures more than a predictable high DPS. Mike Tycn(punch out) 06:43, 21 January 2008 (EST)

He still says the DPS of a warrior is greater than that of a ranger, which is wrong, and even tehn deosnt constitute a 0 in effectiveness. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:26, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Agreed, done. Mike Tycn(punch out) 07:39, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I changed my vote to be more specific, but if you are referring to RAW DPS, as in, auto-attacking, I'm right. If you are referring to RAW DPS, as in, using attack skills, I'm still right. Right? Shen(contribs) 09:45, 21 January 2008 (EST)

No, I used attack skills, and I used a constant IAS, and teh ranger had more DPS. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 09:58, 21 January 2008 (EST)

The Master of Damage does not take 100 Damage from Deep Wound into account. Shock Axe wins. Shen(contribs) 10:03, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Which only would have counted every 19 seconds when deep wound wore off, so only another 5 DPS, which makes the total 48 to 51. Shock axe loses. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 10:08, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I honestly can't fathom how you could calculate that. An extra 100 armor-ignoring damage every time Eviscerate recharges puts Shock Axe over the top. Why are you going by the length of DW? There simply isn't a reason. Shen(contribs) 10:12, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Because you do no additional damage with deep wound if you just reapply it. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 10:14, 21 January 2008 (EST)

In which case, the enemy monk fails at monking, and your job killing the opposing player is that much easier. Ressmonkey, this is ridiculous. Shen(contribs) 10:16, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Yes it is ridiculous, but that deosnt mean that Im not gonna argua about it. So if the Deep Wound is removed, the DPS drops by 100/time as its not real damage being dealt. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 10:18, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Taking that into account completely skews the results from the Master of Damage. That's the worst argument you've come up with yet, as that screws over your figures. Shen(contribs) 10:25, 21 January 2008 (EST)

How? --- Ressmonkey (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2008 (EST)

(Reset)The Master of Damage "dies", then gets back to full health still inflicted with DW. As I recall, human players are not like this. Which means you can't even compare, through Master of Damage's Figures, DPS from those Rangers to the damage from a Shock Axe. However, in any practical setting, Shock Axe Wins. Which means my original point, that DPS is higher from a Warrior, is indeed valid. However, I wish to see an Admin/BM's perspective before I break 1RV. Shen(contribs) 16:12, 21 January 2008 (EST)

And human players dont die so quickly. If you want to do it that way, how often does an enemy die with deep wound on? Take the time, divide 100 by it and add it on the DPS, but ur vote doesnt even mention DPS anymore. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:16, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Never use MoD DPS as an example for something. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 16:20, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Except as an example of DPS... --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:23, 21 January 2008 (EST)

No. Ability to kill a Master of Damage quickly and ability to kill 1 target in a team of 4 to 8 players are 2 completely different things and can't be even remotely compared. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 16:26, 21 January 2008 (EST)

(EC) I was going to post, but Skakid disclosed the issue too efficiently. Though if Skakid is saying DPS can't be compared, that means Tycn's removal of my vote on the basis that RAW DPS from rangers are superior to that of a warrior is unfounded. Shen(contribs) 16:33, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Changed my vote. Shen(contribs) 16:39, 21 January 2008 (EST)

E/Me Savannah PvE (talk · rate)

It's not an objective vote, so it needs to be removed. Scatter simply doesn't happen. Matti Nuke's vote. Shen(contribs) 21:25, 20 January 2008 (EST)

E/any SH Elementalist (talk · rate)

Matti Nuke's vote flagrantly misrepresents the build's capabilities. Shen(contribs) 21:26, 20 January 2008 (EST)

W/P Dragon Slash Warrior (talk · rate)

Ricky Vantof's vote... -- Mafaraxas 00:06, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Also, Rapta's vote. -- Mafaraxas 00:06, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Done, Rapta's vote is fine and makes a valid point. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 15:44, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Mo/Me Judging Smiter (talk · rate)

No votes in Trial. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:08, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Got it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:07, 21 January 2008 (EST)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Recent changes RSS and atom feeds

Don't seem to work. [3] [4]. Both of them tell me This feed contains code errors. --Wizardboy777(T/C) 00:45, 21 October 2007 (CEST)

Rate Tab

This is directed at gcard or anyone who has coding experience. Is there anyway for you to be able to have the rate tab available while on the discussion tab? It's kinda annoying to go to the build tab again just to rate something after adding to the discussion. --Lost 05:43, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I agree, it is a lil annoying... hardly priority though. Search system>this. -- frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:58, 24 August 2007 (CEST)

I'm working on it, but it's difficult since the tab on the talk page has to trigger an action on another page. Be patient... – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:22, 27 September 2007 (CEST)

There was a solution to this which poke used in his GWWiki tools on gww. I'll point you to it when I have the time too search for it. -- (gem / talk) 00:59, 7 November 2007 (CET)

That would be nice. Also along these lines, I was thinking that maybe users not logged in could see the ratings but not rate. Sometimes when I'm too lazy to log in I wish I could just see how a build is doing or etc. --GuildofDeals 19:23, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Rating Page protection

Can we get a way to protect a discussion page? It would be nice when a dispute like the Toucher happens... lock it so that votes can't be removed. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 20:14, 30 October 2007 (CET)

Just to add on to Frvwfr2's comment: in that situation, it should lock the vote page in such a way that votes cannot be removed nor can new votes be added. *Defiant Elements* +talk 03:44, 1 November 2007 (CET)

That too. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 01:31, 4 November 2007 (CET)

GraceExpired

Would it be possible to auto-tag Stubs and Trial builds that have been unchanged for 2 weeks, or even automatically enter them into this category? — Rapta (talk|contribs) 03:29, 6 November 2007 (CET)

I think this is still being worked on, its not that simple lol. --Peter 10:24, 29 November 2007 (CET)

Build Master Implementation

So, as per general consensus, we're planning on doing a trial run to test out the impact of BMs on PvX. From everything I've been told, it shouldn't be terribly hard to add the code necessary to create a BM category, but, it does have to be done. *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:01, 1 December 2007 (CET)

The code is implemented now. Build Masters can be promoted/demoted any time by the bcrats. Both BMs and sysops can roll back/restore votes. BM's votes have a weighting of 200%. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 10:18, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Nice! Shen(contribs) 10:20, 13 January 2008 (EST)

200%?! seems a tad high-but at least it's implemented =) thanks Hippo/GC (and anyone else who worked on it =P) PheNaxKian (T/c) 10:31, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Banned Users Voting

Hasn't been resolved. — UberizAwesome 18:19, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Fix this now please. Because when certain users who rarely do anything BUT vote keep breaking 1RV with votes, banning isn't much of a threat because it doesn't stop the voting, and since they don't contribute, it doesn't matter if they can't >.> ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:43, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Preferences

Hopefully this is just me, but when I go to change my "nickname", my uhh... de facto sig, I need to change my preferences at least twice till it stays. hen [contribs] 20:56, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Happens to me sometimes too. I'll sometimes change my sig, but when I go to use it, it reverts to my previous sig. Yes, I do save it too. --GuildofDeals 08:04, 28 December 2007 (EST)

More of mediawiki issue. It is just so much stuff going on with proxy, caching and so on, things like that can get lost in the way. gcardinal 11:59, 31 December 2007 (EST)

my stalklist

last time i checked it was "my watchlist" -.- cKow^Dont 16:46, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Personally, I'm just glad I didn't break the wiki when I changed it. :P Talk:Main Page#Stalklist -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Just for the record, Special:Watchlist still directs properly. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 16:53, 29 December 2007 (EST)

It's ok now.. just looked wierd^^ cKow^Dont 21:38, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Rate tab

Would it be possible to have the rate tab also show how many ratings the build has received, and maybe even what its current rating is? Maybe like "rate (0.00, 0 votes)" or something like that. As it is, anonymous users, users without confirmed emails, and users without 8 contribs can't even view the ratings page. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:11, 6 January 2008 (EST)

More ratings page stuff

The message on the ratings page when you don't have enough contributions is improper English and hard to understand. Right now it says:

Contributions required.
Looks like you a new to PvXwiki. For security reasons we requiere some edits\contributions to be made before voting is allowed.
You can start by adding some info about yourself to your userpage.

I would change it to:

Contributions Required
PvXwiki requires you to have at least 8 contributions before voting. A contribution is any edit to any page.
A good way to get your first few contributions would be by adding some information about yourself to your userpage.

¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:17, 6 January 2008 (EST)

Implemented. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:18, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Contributions Tab

I think userpages should have a tab for Contributions. This makes life generally easier if you're interested in some things someone has done or if you are checking contribs to prove/disprove sockpuppetry. It would make life a lot more easier. IDK if it could be done 'cause I'm a coding (Wikicode and HTML) noob. --GuildofDeals 19:21, 12 January 2008 (EST)

There is one? Shen(contribs) 19:32, 12 January 2008 (EST)

Go to any user page or user talk page, scroll down to the toolbox, and click "User contributions". ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 22:41, 12 January 2008 (EST)

If your contributions are deleted, you can't rate builds

Extremely minor, but still there. If you have 8 contribs, but then have 1 or more deleted, you no longer get to vote. Found it using the sock I use for testing stuff. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 23:31, 12 January 2008 (EST)

That's because they aren't contribs anymore. That's the only reason I don't have 1000ish more contribs than I do - I delete all of them :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:38, 12 January 2008 (EST)

So, if I was a new contributer and made a build and it got deleted, then I never contributed anything at all? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 06:40, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Well, you did, there just isn't a record of it anymore. And because of that, we can't checkuser you. Which is why we recommend making a userpage, because that won't be deleted unless you request it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:04, 13 January 2008 (EST)

User Ratings

I made a preliminary version of My Ratings: Special:UserRatings. At the moment you can only use it to see a list of your own ratings (and only the most recent 200). It will be extended to show other user's ratings (and all of them) later. Please test. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 14:29, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I have a vote posted twice (i'll put a screen up in a mo)PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:36, 13 January 2008 (EST)

It's working perfect for me, just what I would want. Would it be possible to put it up there next to my contributions for the final version? Also, special:myratings? And we would find other people's votes as Special:Ratings/Name here. — Victoryisyours (talk/pvxcontribs) 14:41, 13 January 2008 (EST)

here Also thanks for making it =P PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:44, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Same thing happened with me. And this is really cool, thx. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:54, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Strange. Is it always the oldest vote that is doubled? – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:19, 13 January 2008 (EST)

My last one's doubled, also.

Shen(contribs) 15:25, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Double last line fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:23, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I wanna see Eloc's :p. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 15:21, 13 January 2008 (EST)

I want to see guild of deal's. But as he usually reates build bad, so they get deleted and then they dont show up on it. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 15:31, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Removed ones show. Lord Belar 15:50, 13 January 2008 (EST)

No I meant the build gets deleted, so they dont show up then. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 16:01, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Oh, right. Still, it's just like contribs. Lord Belar 16:07, 13 January 2008 (EST)

A deleted build (that link goes to Build:Bonsai nine/Mo/Me Signet Smiting Monk) is showing up on mine. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:26, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Is anyone able to change/delete inapropriate votes?--Frans 10:37, 17 January 2008 (EST)

BMs and admins can remove inappropriate votes. If you think votes somewhere are bad, post a request higher up in the 'Build-specific issues' section (there are instructions at the top of this page). ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:08, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Rollback

Don't know where to put it so i put it here, but can we plant a edit on rollbacked votes? For example, if you make a typo, you gotta first restore it, and then rollback again, which is pretty annoing. - Unexist 04:52, 20 January 2008 (EST)

For New Players

I had no idea which section to put this, so i put it here. I think that we need a section for new players to give them specific details on how to make a build, how to put images on it, how to make links to other websites(like youtube for an example of the build) and also how to transfer web images to PVX, and lastly, how to make your homepage. When i joined(about 3 weeks ago, but ive known this website since it came out), i had trouble doing this, and i still dont know how to make pictuers, so i think that this would be helpful. I Am Jebus 15:23, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I echo this sentiment. As much as it pains me to reference GWW, we need some sort of Welcome Mat. Perhaps a contest? Shen(contribs) 15:29, 21 January 2008 (EST)

However, any page I envision would need some to make some controversial generalities, of which I would actually look forward to discussing in the course of such a contest. Shen(contribs) 15:31, 21 January 2008 (EST)

And it'd also be imperative we make our policy page significantly tidier, if we were to point newbs to them. This'd be, then, a huge endeavor. Shen(contribs) 15:33, 21 January 2008 (EST)

"Hi there. Welcome to PvXwiki. As you probably suck, here's some help. kthx." --71.229.204.25 15:34, 21 January 2008 (EST)

I SECOND THE MOTION!!!!! I Am Jebus 15:35, 21 January 2008 (EST)

From the sounds of things it's more of a "how to use wiki crap" rather than "how to make good builds" so i would say it's a somewhat good idea (jsut for those who have no idea what so ever) but tbh i think the other policies just about cover everything we need to know, but i think making the key policies with said information in them more prominent on the main page might eb a good idea, so it's something you instantly see kind of thing.PheNaxKian (T/c) 16:49, 21 January 2008 (EST)

That was kind of the idea behind this. I just haven't really done that much with it yet. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:45, 21 January 2008 (EST)

Awright, will u let other people edit that to help? I Am Jebus 18:02, 21 January 2008 (EST)

BM Recent ratings

how about marking bms in the recent ratings list? - Y0_ich_halt 16:01, 21 January 2008 (EST)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Seed of Life

Seed of life doesn't seem to be effected by @xx. see here SoL is set @7 (at rank 7 as indicated in the note section) this should make it last 4 seconds, however it still says it lasts 1...5 seconds. PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:15, 21 November 2007 (CET)

That's true of all title-track skills I believe. *Defiant Elements* +talk 23:54, 21 November 2007 (CET)

Not all-i think on the main page there's something down near the bottom about it and it has something to do with the asura title track where @xx works.PheNaxKian (T/c) 23:07, 22 November 2007 (CET)

Cool idea i think

Could we maybe get a bar sayin like Crit rate and DPS on weapon based builds? like for a warr have Crit rate based on wep mastery, and a DPS based on wep attribute. Mehbe not worth it, but useful nonetheless. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:22, 10 December 2007 (CET)

Would it be like base DPS? I dunno how useful that might be in some builds. Shen(contribs) 02:38, 10 December 2007 (CET)

True... Maybe just crit hit chance then, but that has negligible use except for on Sins, but then they use a lot of crit increasing skills too. Maybe just forget it. ~~ frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 02:42, 10 December 2007 (CET)

I think that would be quite kool, but then you have to think of how to get it only on rangers/warriors/ass. etc. and not jsut casters with a wand -.-. also on the idea of adding things-equipment template code(s) maybe? would mean we don't have to just list it....i think (would have to for PvE builds i guess....)PheNaxKian (T/c) 21:16, 11 December 2007 (CET)

PvE Attributes Counter

It would be nice. Basically the ability to put the PvE rank into the attributes and let it calculate how the skill works. Just my opinion IMO. --GuildofMoses 10:16, 24 December 2007 (EST)

[Skill@1...12], if ever the need arose. One can also click the actual skill. Though it'd be pointless to have a set attribute for such a variable attribute. Should a minimum value be prudent, simply note so. Shen ^{has cookies} 10:22, 24 December 2007 (EST)

That doesn't work properly though, it displays what rank you should be at but it doesn't supply the relevant information, what damage/healing etc. it does it still has the range in.PheNaxKian 13:49, 27 December 2007 (EST)

Perhaps we should also have a system where it shows how many attribute points there are left over, displayed next to the Attributes and Skills section of a build.

PvX Convert/Decode

They both don't work. — ク Eloc 貢 16:31, 25 December 2007 (EST)

seems like some links are wrong (in the toolbox on the mainpage and the redirects of the submit buttons). just modify the urls manually: add "/wiki" between "...pvxwiki.com" and "/index.php" well.. Vespertine 09:16, 29 December 2007 (EST)

http://www.pvxwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:PvXdecode should link to: http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Special:PvXDecode on the main page and the Submit Query button code is broken as well. Rolo 19:23, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Fixed. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:08, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Build Template

Would it be possible to add the blank build template on to the toolbar instead of Styles and Formatting-> View Source->Copy->Pasting it? Would be helpful imo.--Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 17:54, 26 December 2007 (EST)

User:Teh Uber Pwnzer/Template:Blank Build imo. — UberizAwesome 03:09, 30 December 2007 (EST)

Well, we have the Bold text on the toolbar, which all you have to do is put 3 's around the word. And since this is a build site, you might as well have the build template on the toolbar. Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 20:11, 31 December 2007 (EST)

You mean the toolbar on the editor? Cuz that would actually be pretty awesome. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 02:57, 1 January 2008 (EST)

Yes that one. — Victoryisyours (talk/RfA) 18:30, 8 January 2008 (EST)

New messages

Everytime I go to main page, it says I have a new message, but I don't. — ク Eloc 貢 03:59, 29 December 2007 (EST)

it's a cache error. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 03:00, 1 January 2008 (EST)

I think this goes here.

Uh... --71.229 08:58, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Looks fine to me-I can see the icon....PheNaxKian 09:07, 3 January 2008 (EST)

All (most?) images show up like that when they're first uploaded. My guess is a cache error, but I'm probablky wrong. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 09:24, 3 January 2008 (EST)

o i c. Yeah, clearing my cache fixed it. --71.229 09:57, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Yea, all the wintersday entries were doing that for me when I first uploaded them. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 12:57, 4 January 2008 (EST)

I'm running FF. Any idea why I never have to clear my cache? 'Cause I always hear about it, but it does nothing at all for me. cedave _{(contributions_buildpage)} 17:00, 5 January 2008 (EST)

I'm running FF and i just have it set to clear cache when it's closed =), saves me having to do it =pPheNaxKian (T/c) 17:46, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Something is wrong with PvE section

Those 'a'-s are weird. Dunno why, i reinstalled Windows now. ĐONT*TALK 18:17, 4 January 2008 (EST)

I don't have that problem. -- Armond Warblade{{sysop}} 00:10, 5 January 2008 (EST)

Me neither :/ –Ichigo724 00:12, 5 January 2008 (EST)

It's fixed now-when GC changed the coulours on the main page he accidentally put an A at the end of each of the builds somehow (Wizzardboy explained on the main page i believe)PheNaxKian (T/c) 08:16, 5 January 2008 (EST)

There isn't a link to Team Arenas in the PvP Builds by category section. Zig 18:17, 13 January 2008 (EST)

There should be... it displays for me... what browser are you using? *Defiant Elements* +talk 18:40, 13 January 2008 (EST)

Hhhm im running firefox let me see if it works for IE.....very odd....it displays for IE but not firefox. Zig 12:55, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Focused Shot

Does not show the "+" in front of the bonus damage. example: <pvxbig>[[Focused Shot@12]</pvxbig> --- Ressmonkey (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2008 (EST)

Pious Assault

This skill needs to be updated. [5] Greevar 12:29, 21 January 2008 (EST)

A lot of skills need updating due to the recent update. But its a temporary testing update, so I assume the admins are waiting to update them before a-net says its final. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:48, 21 January 2008 (EST)