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There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

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Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

84.195.252.240 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Ups, vandal. See contribs or RC. - Misery Is HawtFile:Grumpy bear.JPG 10:43, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Garr, you EC'd me out of posting this :P --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 10:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Blocked for 3 days. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 10:56, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

92.40.19.33 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Apparently a proxy of someone (I think), trolling my Talk page. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:21, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Argghh noooo, dont, stop, sorry, I'm really sorry, please dont do that...you killed my!! :'( Sec. I stop being a prexay I promise, sec I make an acount --92.40.88.171 11:27, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Zeecron?-- 11:28, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Here, made an account, guild sorry I didnt mean to offend you it was just a joke Im really sorry :( --92.PROXAY.ACCOUNT.40 11:37, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Making an account doesn't change it. You're still obviously a proxy. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:39, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Im really sorry I dont know what to now!!!! :'( --92.PROXAY.ACCOUNT.40 11:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

DE got it. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:50, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

what gave it away? the fact that his account name has the word 'proxy' in it?--Reason.decrystallized 14:12, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Uber_professional_uber_duber_mega_playarrr (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

User:Super Igor --Tab Moo 15:16, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 15:20, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

I HATE NGRZ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

name says it all No 19:58, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 23:47, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Crossfirexiv (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Persistently making joke/troll votes after warning from both BMs and admins. --Tab Moo 10:34, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I was just about to ask about that. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 10:46, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

No im not. I said in that one vote i disagreed with Xero. Alright ill stop seriously.-- 11:00, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

You've said that several times already. You know perfectly well that before you revoted it was a troll vote. --Tab Moo 11:01, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

This is not the first incidence. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 11:03, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Alright ill stop.-- 11:03, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Regardless, DE's warning only came just yesterday, roughly the same time the user at hand made the last of those stupid votes. No immediate block issued just yet. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 11:15, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Actually, this was a seperate vote on Build:N/any_Tainted_Flesher. However, he's revoted since I removed it. --Tab Moo 11:38, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Since it's technically valid to cite another user's vote, the revote won't be removed. However, the voter should be able to provide further, sufficient support for that reason in case a BM or Administrator inquires about the vote at hand. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 11:44, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

He's revoted since I posted here. The original one was 0-0-0 quoting the removed 5-5-5. --Tab Moo 11:57, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm well aware of that. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 11:59, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

217.171.129.78 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Trolling, spamming, vandalizing, swearing and worst of all posting those laeeem HB builds, ban pl0xkthx. --217.171.129.78 14:04, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 14:39, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

91.143.221.141 (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

See contibs. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 08:35, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

needs blocked immediately Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:47, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

User started getting smart...started doing double edits so it couldn't be undone but by an administrator here is an example. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:51, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, this guy has a serious vandalism streak going, and you can still undo the edits just compare the first change he made and the original version in the history--GoldenStar 09:54, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Again, he's back to vandalizing...any admins going to step in? Choytw ~~ Talk+ 17:20, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Build:A/E UW Chaos Plains Farmer

wtb semi protect please, people seem to love vandalizing it. No 18:15, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

A/R Promise Assassin PvE (talk · rate)

4th mention. I need a judgment please. -Shen 07:41, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Can you say the name? 4th is kinda ambiguous if I haven't voted, or yours shows it above/below where you think it is. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:45, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

He means this is the fourth time he brought this issue up, but it's been rather ignored. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:54, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I can't really say too much about it, I've never used a sin in PvE before. --Tab Moo 15:05, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

But PvE is for pros. Loads harder than silly GvG! Anyway, just so I can weigh in, I think it's fine where it is. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:07, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, my instinct would be that acceptable is OK, but I seem to remember the discussion over it being comparing it to a similar build, which is where I can't really help. --Tab Moo 15:08, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

I don't really see the big issue, it's proven to work well in PvE. Selket Shadowdancer 15:24, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

My wammo without a bar also well works in pve. Can I add that too? —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 04:27, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

In no way can you say Tab has given a final judgment. I say this because he would have "decide[d] on the appropriate course of action" as per PvX:APPEAL, which, as I'm garnering, isn't the case. Of course, if Tab doesn't agree, then the decision is final. -Shen 22:17, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

A/D_Grenth's_Grasp_Assassin (talk · rate)

Tifa Yawa.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 15:31, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

It has been successfully Tab Smashed. --Tab Moo 15:33, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

P/W Focused PvE Paragon (talk · rate)

Kelvin Greyheart, Voidwalker, BadByBirth, Yamagawa. Works everywhere deserves nothing else than a 5-5-5. Godbox 16:08, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

I removed all of those 5 minutes ago. Ups. --Tab Moo 16:10, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Doesn't work "everywhere". Most places? Yes. But not "everywhere". Selket Shadowdancer 21:26, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

It works everywhere. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 21:28, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - AB CwD Capping team (talk · rate)

Changed quite a bit, wondering if it warrants placement into testing again. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 21:16, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

N/Rt WoD Healer (talk · rate)

Some guy that begins with an M said that it isn't innovative as in original and is keeping it out of great by one point.--The Gates Assassin 01:06, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Frv got it. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 12:51, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Assassin (Costume Brawl build) (talk · rate)

Adslahnit's vote. The build is for "data" purposes, not actually rating/vetting purposes. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:00, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 10:18, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA ImbaWay (talk · rate)

Don't agree with Snake's vote, reasons: Hexway is rarely ran, can't remember last time I actually went against it. Sig of Humility > RC. DA...havn't seen one of those in god knows how long. Warmonger's can interupt the ghostly, not perm like PD though I guess. This isn't Derv smite...Also hoping I'm posting this right :X Sorry If I'm not ^^ -- Nature 22:18, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

Got it. --Tab Moo 04:22, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Goldens vote, Mantra of Inscription nerf didn't make it lose a lot of pressure, it can be kept up like 90% of the time. Splinter Weapon also didn't make it lose lot of pressure, it can even still be used i nit. And this isn't Dervsmite...... -- Nature 14:33, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

D/A VoS Solo Capper (talk · rate)

Lann's vote because watchful intervention is not counter productive since it will not put you out of 50% health when used. Frosty's vote because there are like 5 other skills in variants that you could take for a speed boost instead. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 07:16, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Deadly Arts Spike Sin (talk · rate)

Xiay's vote. /FrosTalk\ 07:26, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

As well as every vote pertaining to AB. Anything works in AB. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:52, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

W/any Bull's Thrust (talk · rate)

Any votes below "good" are flawed. — Skakid 14:01, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 14:35, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - Ursan Avatar (talk · rate)

Could you please remove Guild of Deals Vote & Goldenstar's vote. They based his vote on not being able to keep up Ursan which the build does better than any other Ursan Team build and that it would be impossible to organize. Enchants ending from the Pious Order of the Vampire plus mantras for each area and to top it off zealous weapons. Thats as good as you are going to get for Ursans E Management. So I dont know what chunk there is for him to vote it so poorly. Thanks EoD Itzl 17:18, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

If you're good with Ursan, than you don't need all this extra survivability crap. It's way too chunky to compared with the standard, not to mention impossible to organize. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:52, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

...why? — Skakid 19:16, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

Why not have extra survivability or extra damage? If you red the description then you would know what you just said is invalid to the argument of the build."his should generally be USED BY GROUPS who are at least slightly organized, such as GUILDS, FRIENDS, or ORGANIZED PUBS." So it isn't impossible to organize, maybe for random groups yes, but guilds and friends far from it. Anyways this isn't a discussion page for this build so quit trying to stir up more crap for the mods to clean up besides your votes. EoD Itzl 21:13, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Mo 55 SF Elementalist (talk · rate)

Methza's Vote: Don't like this build... This is not a reason.--RELYK ʞlɐʇ ʎɯ 20:10, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

^ --Tab Moo 06:51, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA Necro Hex Pressure (talk · rate)

Goldenstar Jebus and Watch. Nothing there should be under a 4 imo. Especially inno.-- Nature 09:44, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

See talk page for why -- Nature 10:14, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Got Goldenstar's. --Tab Moo 10:31, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

E/Rt VwK Earth (talk · rate)

Lann's vote suggests heavy enchantment removal in PvE. If so, explain 55 monks :)--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 15:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

Frvwfr2 got it.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 16:15, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

It's still there, actually. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 23:48, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

He revoted.... Im pretty sure hes still invalid. 55 monks fave the same problems aswell, only this is better with interruption because it doesnt rely on PS, which can be interrupted due to its frequent usage. I promise i wont discuss anymore so plz dont flame me.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 23:52, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

An admin needs to go by the rating page and let most of the voters know that innovation does not mean what they think it does (or as it should mean and was probably originally intended to mean) -- One dude gave a four because, "has been done before on this wiki before the stacking armor nerf so 4 for innovation". Choytw ~~ Talk+ 09:02, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

that was me, and it was when 'innovation' meant innovation and not the sort of vaguely defined meta-ness thing that it is now. either way, the rating is justified.--Reason.decrystallized 09:06, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

N/A HM Raptor Farmer (talk · rate)

Kongtorp is wrong. not 0-0-0.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 10:45, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

There is no way for you to know he is wrong since youve never tested it. In all likelyhood, he is right. See the talk page for my reasoning. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Me/E AoE Echo (talk · rate)

Goldenstar's vote. Completely differnet between this build and the one he's sampling. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:53, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes the one I linked to does mkore damage by using its skills more often and it doesn't waste its elite. It's better.--Goldenstar 16:55, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Zomg double ec, here... I was about to post that, indeed, build doesnt deserve such bad vote and there is no connection between it and the build he was sampling. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 16:56, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

First, this isn't a discussion page... What ever happened to that red floaty thing? Second, it's like comparing Shock Axe to Earth Shaker: you don't. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:57, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

One uses the elite to recharge skills faster, while the other one uses the elite to make a copy and use it more often. What's the issue here? — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:58, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Because they both make copies to do more damage, the echo one just wastes its elite to do and can't do damage as often. I voted low because it's not as effective. I really don't see the problem.--Goldenstar 17:00, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

There you go then, that's fine enough a reason for me. A BM can look over this, or whatever, if another opinion is desired. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:14, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Well how come ether nightmare, an yber aoe degen hex started to fail? I mean getting the alligience title up is not hard, and as for echo its a good and cheap way to have 2 copies of anything. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

It's still only around 60 to 70 AoE damage at a moderate rank. And you use your entire bar to cast it semi-frequently. It's the same with the other build. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:35, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Dude count it from maxed point of view, maxing ss rank is easy, fast and no reason you wouldnt if ur about to use such build, so its 200 aoe damage very fast + clums + eye, good imo. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Ok, so you go max your Norn, Asura, Dwarf, Ebon, Sunspear, Lightbringer, and Allegiance titles, ok? Ok then. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:39, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

If you're not thinking CoP is good, then seriously, there's something wrong. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:40, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

CoP is crappy compared to a lot of things. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:42, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

(EC)First of all agrreed with god, if you dont like cop you are wrong, second of all rapta calm down please, and thirdly go to my userspace and look at it closely, all alligiance ranks maxed except luxon that I will be maxing after getting leg cart and vanq, trust me, it took me roughly 8-12 hours of title work to get max vose titles so it is not hard, it is not slow. --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:43, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Farming PvE titles is Zzzzz. And this conversation is becoming retarded. Start this on your talk page with Guild and you can discuss your love of Cry of Pain there. The initial issue was resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 17:46, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Mo/R Dwarven Deliverance (talk · rate)

Tch's and GoD's votes, neither seem to understand the concept of the build, that it wont run out of enrgy and can spam party-wide heals constantly as opposed to hp spammer that is likely to drain its enrgy pretty fast spamming hp as mindlessly as this build spams lod and the dublicates, Tch's vote I dont even understand, flawed, how come? --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:10, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I deleted mine. Didn't want to be a prick. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:11, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Good lad, your vote wasnt actually as bad compared to Tch's becuase I dont get what he meant to say >.>; --Super Igor *ninja!!* 17:18, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Temple Strike Assassin (talk · rate)

LAnn's vote. Apparently 20s is a long recharge but he forgot SP's 25 recharge.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 01:12, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

The Gates Assassin's vote. Not a 0-0-0 build if it can torment every GW profession.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 08:57, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

N/A Solo Boss Farmer (talk · rate)

Lann suggests that this cannot kill a boss. Apparently he didn'y try it either ><. See talkpage and the pic GoD posted. His vote suggests they will outheal which isnt true bc the user carries D-dagger.--GRAARR /RESETTI Crossfire 01:27, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W Critical Hammer Striker (talk · rate)

Moved back to Trial, so vote wipe pl0x (plus none of the votes actually gave a real reason). /FrosTalk\ 06:08, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*TALK 08:05, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

E/any Icy Steam (talk · rate)

tbh, this is pretty much the meta Icy Shackles ele, anything under great is pretty questionable, anything under good (see Lann's vote) is down right stupid. /FrosTalk\ 15:15, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Pretty much resolved. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 16:21, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Rt/R Spirit Spiker (talk · rate)

The build almost completely changed and I think it deserves a vote wipe. Cheese Eater 15:23, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

It's also still horrible and will end up in the trash.--Goldenstar 15:25, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Still, the votes are for a totally different build, wipe the votes, and see if it gets re-trashed. -- Come visitmy grass shack! 10:21, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 10:56, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any SoDC Spikesin (talk · rate)

Trash votes that say the build is slow need to be removed. The build is a very similar to the Deadly Arts spiker which got a high rating and takes no longer to pull off its spike. Should probabaly be deleted but votes should be more accurate imo. Selket Shadowdancer 03:31, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

It's a little more than a 5 second spike. SP + Iron Palm = 1 sec, Falling Spider + TF = 2.66 sec (Daggers have same attack rate as swords and axes), and the 2 Signets is 2 seconds, so it's 5.66 secs (not including aftercasts). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:44, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

the aftercasts that matter are on Iron Palm and the first signet, bringing it to a bit over 7 seconds from starting the shadow step -> last damage.--Reason.decrystallized 07:59, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

The point is it doesn't really take any longer than the Deadly Arts Spiker that uses Impale instead of SoDC which has a high rating and is pretty much the same thing. Any ratings over slowness in the build over half a second or so compared to a similar build rated highly are just dumb and unjustified really. Selket Shadowdancer 10:06, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Deadly Arts Spike Sin (talk · rate)

Xiay's vote. She's rating it like someone who would rate Cripshot solely on AB. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 11:15, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree but not for the same reasons. This build owns in AB if you take a secondary KD like Shock for interrupting key skills, an IMS like Dash for mobility, and a Monk to heal your ass. Selket Shadowdancer 16:20, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

R/Rt Brutal Barrage (talk · rate)

votes are invalid MAJOR build change.-- 11:30, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Removing AB/CM tags is not "major build change" but votes became invalid indeed. Wiped. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 12:51, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

A/any Fox's Promise Assassin (talk · rate)

moved to trial pending re-write (discussions ongoing). needs vote wipe.--Reason.decrystallized 11:57, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 12:51, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

A/W Blades of Renewal (talk · rate)

Needs a vote wipe. No longer has BoS it seems. Selket Shadowdancer 20:26, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Now it's just a plain old MB/DB dupe. If you're gonna vote whipe it, put a WELL tag on it at the same time--GoldenStar 20:32, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA 3 Dervishes (talk · rate)

I dont see how "Izzy raeped this".---ﮎHædõ๘یíɳ 21:54, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Moving discussion to build talk page. Please discuss on build/user pages before reporting this on the noticeboard. -- Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 06:44, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

A/any One by One Sin (talk · rate)

I smell overrating. It's Assassin's Promise in PvP. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:19, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Vote struck; and the build has been insta-trashed by the people. -- Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 07:28, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - HA ImbaWay (talk · rate)

Didn't understand to post down here...anyways.... Goldens Vote: This is NOT Dervsmite, there isn't even one smiting skill in the whole build so why is he talking about sig mesmers... SoH is fine can be kept up majority of the time, quite sure people are still upset with it. Splinter... that did not make it lose a lot of pressure .... it's what -17 dmg? The pressure is from the dervs and the spammable Deep Wound not Splinter...and it can still be used.... Dronte: I can understand not having PD to interupt every 2 seconds, but that does not hurt it so badly... SoH can still be kept up majrity of the time, A-Rage, in a sense, is atually better for something like this, splinter... I won't say it again... Ricky: Nice reasoning. and Izzy didn't. -- Nature 08:20, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Dervsmite is just a generic name for that kind of stuff. All the components of the build mentioned in his vote have been hit. --Tab Moo 08:21, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

E/A Capper's Promise (talk · rate)

certain of the votes seem a little high. 5/5/5 for this?!--Reason.decrystallized 19:23, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - Rampageway (talk · rate)

Goldenstar's vote, needs to go to TA and see that this is practically the only thing ran, and it hurts. /FrosTalk\ 02:17, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Removed. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 05:48, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

You're wrong dont. That build is horrible compared to a standard balanced build and will get rolled by it every time. See my arguments in my vote and get a BM in here to tell you you're wrong.--GoldenStar 09:58, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Just go get rolled by it, since nearly every team is running this. /FrosTalk\ 10:24, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

E/any Solo Raptor Farmer (talk · rate)

Shadowsin is outright wrong.-- 13:18, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

D/P_Lyssan_Harrier_Spear (talk · rate)

The votes have very little to do with the actual build, and the build also has excellent energy management when you take a Zealous Spear. If your attacks aren't hitting, switch sets and only use Harrier's Toss or your buffs when you need them (which they can still be used fairly often.) ــмıкεнaшк 16:30, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Not really but i sholdnt be discussing so i wont.-- 21:36, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

The build wasn't designed to outclass a Scythe-wielding Dervish (which is my biggest problem with the votes), but a Spear-wielding Paragon in pressure and DPS (but obviously not party-support.) ــмıкεнaшк 22:31, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

A/Mo 105hp Sin farmer (talk · rate)

Biased author vote with no reasoning. --*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:39, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

R/W_Unstoppable_Fow_Chest_Runner (talk · rate)

May want to take a look at these votes.-- 23:23, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

IT looks like the same person. They both use lowercase i's-- 23:24, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

... that's your basis for that? No links between users found via Checkuser, although another sock emerged. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 23:35, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Who? Well this user could be using different computers. 1. theyre both unknown/users without userpages. 2. They voted for the same build wit identical votes.-- 23:51, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

There's no legitimate proof. There's no basis for these assumptions. Red pages doesn't mean anything. You're getting way too much out of two votes. And looking at the users' contributions, they vary greatly. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 23:54, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Well im sorry i misinterptreted. What did you mean by (another sock emerged)-- 23:56, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Check the Block Logs. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 23:59, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

P/any_Command_Support (talk · rate)

was redone a long time ago, needs a vote wipe please. Saint 11:28, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Download all builds

Can someone make a thingy for the categories that lets you download every build from that category? (For example, great HA builds. I want to download all the skill templates). I mainly want to do this with all the HA, GvG, and Hero builds. As well as PvE farming. It'd be nice to have all those builds ready ^^ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.204.149.156 (contribs) .

We had that idea long ago, but no time yet to code it. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:05, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Show/Hide

Back in the resolved general coding issues, I mentioned div-frames. They were able to shown or hidden at will. Here is the extension, I think. [1] —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 10:43, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Edit: it definitely is. I tested it on my personal wiki. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş 16:59, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Will have a look. I'm waiting for gc to reactivate the test server, would like to try it there first. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:38, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

We have collapsible tables now. Does that do the job? – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 16:20, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Recent Ratings

Shows server time, does not change based on Preferences. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:36, 5 April 2008 (EDT)

Will look at it when test server is back up. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:39, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Removal and Bans

When a BM/admin is banned, it can still remove and restore votes. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:04, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Thought that was true of Admins as well....?~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:08, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Better? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:09, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

If admins will be banned, it´s 95% sure their adminship will be rejected(same for BM i'd suppose). They should keep themselves to the rules, otherwise they're not a good BM/Admin. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 16:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

In addition to this, banned users can still vote. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   06:31, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. Blocked users cannot see rating pages anymore. When the test server is up, I'll change it such that anonymous/blocked users can see, but not edit the votes. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 13:45, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Very nicely done. — Rapta (talk|contribs) 13:50, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Special:UserRatings

Can we get a way to check another users ratings, rather than just our own? Helps out in case of socks that were discovered late, such as Crossfire+Woof. I would think it would be fairly easy to code. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   09:14, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Maybe a BM/Admin restricted checkuser style thing, but with votes instead of edits? --Tab Moo 11:59, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

That would be great... But I don't see why not allow everyone to see it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:07, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I just guessed it would be easy to add as an extra option on checkuser. --Tab Moo 15:10, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Meh, I actually think it would work kinda like Contributions atm... But you type in whoevers name. Not a part of checkuser. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   15:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I actually didn't think of that <_< --Tab Moo 15:12, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

I think the original idea as so you could see everyone's, and it's beign worked, i think ti was jsut Hippo managed to get this done so he amde it available, iirc it's on his to do list (could eb wrong). ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 09:06, 23 May 2008 (EDT)

Is on the list, have to wait for test server.– HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 08:19, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Checkuser

When trying to get IPs for a user, I'm occasionally getting this error message: Fatal error: Call to undefined method IP::isipaddress() in /var/www/w/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php on line 532. --Tab Moo 06:31, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Bet it was to check me out. EXteel 06:33, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

See Gcardinal's talk. This is in two different places on there. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:46, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Downloading skill templates

Would it be possible to allow users to specify a default location in preferences for skill templates to be downloaded to? It's somewhat annoying to have to go through and find c:\program files\guild wars\templates\skills every time I want to download one. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:52, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

You could create a shortcut to the folder on your desktop, then it's just a matter of dragging it onto the shortcut. Still, it'd be a nice feature to have. --Mafaraxas (talk • contribs) 23:57, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Where to save is up to your browser, I'm not sure if the server can override that. Maybe with an absolute path. Anyway, it means adding an entry to the preferences, which means all the old ones have to be converted to the new structure etc. which means some work and the need for a test server. I'll put it on the list but don't expect it too soon. For the moment I'd also suggest to use a shortcut. – HHHIPPO; ‹sysop› 10:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

How come every time I download a code and save it in my templates folder, it always says it's invalid in Guild Wars? — ク Eloc 貢 12:04, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think right now, any template with a '+' in the code is invalid because the + is the URL escape character for a space or something like that. You can go into the folder they're stored in and fix them manually. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:24, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Vertical-align for ratings

When a vote has a very long description, Overall, Effectiveness, Universality and Innovation tend to stick to the bottom instead of being in the same line as ratings. A style="vertical-align: center;" should be able to solve this. ~ ĐONT*TALK 09:48, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

The ratings are set up as a table (see my sandbox for the html used). I don't think adding a vertical-align:center would work, since the problem is that the cells are stretching, not spreading out. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:37, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Indeed. I tried a few things, but it's no good. ~ ĐONT*TALK 18:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Special:Statistics

It does not show the total number of pageviews or the job queue length. Dragnmn talk cont 05:35, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

We use squid, so the server never sees the page views. And I'd guess that the job queue is actually 0 :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 10:32, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

HTML Code

Can you not use <a href="blah blah">text</a> here? Since I can't make new sections inside the coding on my page, I'm trying to find alternatives so I can still have a toc. This is seeming to be a dead end as well. Any help is appreciated Choytw ~~ Talk+ 13:31, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

force the ToC.....use {{TOC}} iirc, then do whatever else you were wanting to do.... ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 14:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Don't believe question has been answered. Still looking for guidance. Choytw ~~ Talk+ 15:21, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

sorted i belive-check your talk page for details. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 15:51, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

I was wondering about this. Since I know a decent deal of HTML coding and there's some nice sites that provide HTML web pages (easy copy-paste for a PvX page), I was wondering if there's some kind of convert from HTML to WikiCode. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:07, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

No, you can't use <a>. However, you can use <span id="Header"></span> and then [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Header]]. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. Byakko 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Well this Wiki uses historic Skill Data (Back from March 2008) which was way before the Splitting and therefore a skill doesnt need to have been changed recently in order to be displayed wrong here. And thats not the only issue here 87.183.41.200 07:58, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^ Byakko 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)