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There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

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General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

N/any Elite Tome Farmer (talk · rate)

Trial. Frosty No U! 16:32, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Resolved. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 18:23, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - GvG Balance Dual Smite (talk · rate)

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh —SkaKidSkakidasaur 12:39, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

I suppose you hate it but i rewrite it a bit, fixed the sig mesmer and optional elite on Smiter. Tbh Goldenstars and Captains votes are wrong to the current build also saying. Sig mesmer whitout SoJ makes it instant 3-3-3 is pretty bad, also Innovation ehm it was putted there for 2months when it was used by 1guild , rawr oO Massive Image-Massive Sig 12:47, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - Spirit Rift Ritualist Spike (talk · rate)

Completely biased author vote, even with his reasoning it doesnt deserve 5-5-5. Have u seen the build? IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I 18:24, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

neither does it desever a 0-0-0, despite how bad it is, besides you should post on the builds talk page, and then the voters talk page befoer the AN remember ;) ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 18:28, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

A/D Whirling AoD Assassin (talk · rate)

Lann + Xiay + Tabsmash = :)--Xfire14siggy 20:06, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

Tab's actually on vacation TBH. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)
Fine Raptasmash plz.--Xfire14siggy 10:13, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
? — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 22:25, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
>< we need ska back..Plz justremove those wrong votes plz.--Xfire14siggy 22:26, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure I made myself clear what issues belong on the AN. If it's a vote disagreement, post your complaint on the build's talk page. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 22:28, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
ZuranSmashed anyway. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:51, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Well AN is faster and better, and thanks guild of deals...--Xfire14siggy 09:53, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
AN isn't the first place to complain about someone else. Don't get complacent with AN being "faster and better", because unnecessary and premature reports make AN slower and crappier. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 10:07, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Lann's vote again. He reapplied it with same exact reason. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:29, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

A/E SH Deadly Arts Spike (talk · rate)

Lukejohnson's vote zzzz... --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:16, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

Honestly, any ratings above 3 looks wrong, but I'm not pushing for this to become another GoR Sin. XD The build should be renamed to SH Deadly Arts Sin, because it's too slow to be a spike, although it deals enough damage. Also, a 30 second recharge is pretty bad when you're using Deadly Paradox to reduce the recharge. XD ــмıкεнaшк 09:23, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

E/A Fiery Promise (talk · rate)

Could you remove a abuse vote from my build? It was voted great with only two 3 voting and the rest 4.5+ and one guy voted which brought it to great build. But now Thc placed a 1 rate on the build with a idiot comment.... I think he only wants to bring the build out of the great rating cause he doesn't like it or he hasn't an idea how it works, cause its totaly diffrent from the other capper build (E/D). Maybe you could remove his rating, cause its idiot since killing players with the build isn't that hard and it caps even quicker then a el/d build. The use of AP will allow you to cap even faster than normal since Shower is always available and the time between shrines isn't 1 min but most of the time 20-30 sec with the faster run skill. Thanks.robertjan 02:19, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

That is not something you debate on the AN. Discuss on the build's talk page. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 14:25, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

D/Me Wounding Breaker (talk · rate)

There are a lot of cases where meta builds are proped straight into great *Cough*Rip Axe*Cough*, this has been used continuesly a much as the general D/E WS Derv, it is in no way an "other build" Frosty No U! 16:38, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

"Rip Axe" isn't "meta". The axe warrior bar, however, is. Anyways, votes wiped. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 16:44, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

E/A Fiery Promise (talk · rate)

Needs vote whipe. The whole setup is changed to make it lots faster, efficient and more survivable when capping. Also the playing style is totally diffrent :P Thanks.robertjan 02:22, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

All votes have been wiped. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 06:26, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks!robertjan 07:18, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

D/Mo Wounding Strike Dervish (talk · rate)

DervishPale94's vote. Rates it down because of no self healing... --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 12:09, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Done. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 13:22, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

A/W Shadow Prison Sin (talk · rate)

I think archiving is a bad idea here, it is still used, but is no longer great, I believe a vote wipe and re-votting would settle it, but if it doesn't get above good (so Other or Trash) then it should be re-archived. My 2 cents. Frosty No U! 19:36, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

No real point in repeating the process just to get it archived again. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 03:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - TA AoD Smite (talk · rate)

Some voters are undervoting, others do not provide sufficient reason. IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I Enter my contest! 22:23, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

W/A Warrior's Aura (talk · rate)

While votes are accurate imo, 2 of them obviously need to learn about frenzy+rush. Not that it makes a difference. IAmJebus sig2*Jebus* Is I Enter my contest! 22:27, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Final Thrust drains all adr. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   23:04, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
I don't see what the issue is here. If there is a problem, please discuss on the build talkpage before referring to the noticeboard. --Scottie bow Scottie_theNerd (talk/contribs/complain) 03:55, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Me/W_PD_Arena_Mesmer (talk · rate)

User:Magnetox. 4.8=/=decent.ntm the vote makes no fucking sense--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 09:57, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Team - GvG Conjure Zealot (talk · rate)

Frosty's vote , doesnt really make sense when it has 4spikke characters and one Zealots Fire which he says confuses him and making it a VoD stalling :/ ZF is just bceause you alot of energy since you use SoR, so adding 30+dmg AoE can be quite nice (splinter)..

Rt/A Spirit's Strength Daggers (talk · rate)

The author's vote is very biased. – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 16:29, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

I will change my vote to reflect what I feel it should be, however I request a removal of Lukejohnson's vote. He made no comment prior to the vote and the vote's reasoning is just based on my name.Karate Jesus 16:42, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
moved complaints by author to the builds talk. ~PheNaxKian (T/c) Phenaxkian sig phoenix 18:02, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Request vote wipe. The build has been entirely changed (the rest of the site has not been updated yet though). I want to see if we can get a better response to it. Karate Jesus 21:16, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Team_-_Paraway_Pressure (talk · rate)

Snakes on a Wii and HookinHeads' votes lack reasoning, and the others underestimate the domage of the Sword Paragons with all of the buffs. XD ــмıкεнaшк 18:08, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Sort Function

This is a perfect example of this function. Not sure what we could use it for, but we could find some use... Sort builds by Effect/Univ/Inno maybe? If we ever get that function. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   20:52, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Trial Builds

Is there a reason a huge number of them aren't showing up in Special:GraceExpired? — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 17:26, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Changing the vlink Attribute

I've tried about every combination/position I can think of. Is it possible to change the color of vlinks on the wiki? Choytw sig 1ChoytW [POND] 17:28, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

i'd assume you'd have to alter your monobook.css...(i'm assuming Vlinks are the [[gww:]]and[[gw:]])
He's talking about the "visited" property of a link. He wants to change the website's default color of a link that you've visited to some other color for a selection of specific links. - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 20:01, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Visited links' color can be changed only by CSS. So you have to change your monobook (User:username/monobook.css). Add the following entry:
a:visited {
	color: #660099;
}
Use color of your choice. Note that the changes will be seen only by you and applies to all links. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 00:22, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. Byakko 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Well this Wiki uses historic Skill Data (Back from March 2008) which was way before the Splitting and therefore a skill doesnt need to have been changed recently in order to be displayed wrong here. And thats not the only issue here 87.183.41.200 07:58, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^ Byakko 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Health Sacrifice

The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --CJNyfalt 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. Brandnew. 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
See here. Either gwshack is not up to date or <pvxbig> is not compatible. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Chilling Victory

Just to bring to attention, the Chilling Victory now has 2 different attribute lines based on PvE and PvP. So it might be something you guys should be able to handle or not. Huynh Sanity 00:05, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

We haven't gotten any split PvE/PvP skills working yet :( We'll figure it out (eventually) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:52, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm wondering if it's time to start to put some restrictions on builds being tagged for both PvE and PvP. Maybe adding a type=pve or type=pvp option to PvX code would be the solution? --CJNyfalt 01:34, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I think the cleanest solution lies in the creation of a skill database on PvX. Last I checked, it was ~80% done; we're waiting on a new test server. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
For the time being, can't we just use a [Chilling Victory@<insert rank in wind prayers>] for CV? 19pxAce (LVPoW) 00:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, you can, but that only works in this case. Most other split skills didn't just have their attribute changed :( ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:39, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Aww beat me to itPuneY 00:37, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Missing Build

Erm, not sure if anyone has noticed, but while I was setting up my competition, I noticed no A/P builds, I am certain there was a Dark Apostasy Spear build vetted on the wiki, it was in Other, but I thought it may have been archived, but not there, does anyone have any light on such an issue, of builds just dissapearing, it was similiar to this User:Saint/Build:A/P_Spear_Of_Disenchantment Frosty No U! 14:38, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

I think it was slowly unfavoured, although it should have been archived. It used Remedy Signet instead of Assassin's Remedy (which was a bad choice) and something else instead of Wearying Strike. ــмıкεнaшк 14:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

These are the deleted A/P builds that are still in our database. If you can find a bored admin, he might look them through to restore and archive the one you're missing. Build:A/PCritical_Conditions, Build:A/P_Anthemous_Assassin, Build:A/P_Assachucher, Build:A/P_Assassin's_Fury, Build:A/P_Assassin's_Weariness, Build:A/P_CA_Assassin, Build:A/P_Commanding_Assassin, Build:A/P_Condition_Sin, Build:A/P_Crip_Anthem_Sin, Build:A/P_Crippling_Anthem_Assassin, Build:A/P_Crit_Spear, Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter, Build:A/P_Critcal_Spear, Build:A/P_Critical_Conditions, Build:A/P_Critical_Fury, Build:A/P_Critical_Harpooner, Build:A/P_Critical_Shouter, Build:A/P_Critical_Spear, Build:A/P_Critical_Spear_Sin, Build:A/P_Critical_Spears, Build:A/P_Defensive_Spear, Build:A/P_Disenchanting_spear, Build:A/P_Falling_Blades, Build:A/P_Falling_blades, Build:A/P_Fox's_Promise_Spearchucker, Build:A/P_Infection_of_Fury, Build:A/P_Merciless_Fox, Build:A/P_Mighty_Sinspear, Build:A/P_Mighty_Spearsin, Build:A/P_Multi_Target_Striker, Build:A/P_Pressure_Spear, Build:A/P_PvE_Critical_Spear-chucker, Build:A/P_Repeating_Lotus, Build:A/P_Seeping_Critical_Daggers, Build:A/P_Seeping_Criticals, Build:A/P_Shattering_Weakness, Build:A/P_Shuriken_Assassin, Build:A/P_Siphon_Spear_Shrine_Capper, Build:A/P_Spear_Assassin, Build:A/P_Spear_of_Apostasy, Build:A/P_Stunning_Assassin, Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Repeating_Critical, Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Spear – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:19, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Anyone with Disenchantment/Dark Apostasy/Anything to do with a DA Spear Sin would be it, the CA Assassin was mine :D Frosty No U! 17:23, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Where u want it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:25, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Don't worry, Dont got it. Frosty No U! 17:28, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
We are discussing if it should be archived. I dont think it should, as it was never meta. Copy paste or move it to your userspace, and then we/I will delete it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:29, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was vetted in November, and went unfavourewd in May, Archive imo, it just fell out of favour, that's what happens to some builds that get archived. Frosty No U! 17:33, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was never in favor tho. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:35, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Since it wasn't really meta and we already have tons of archived builds, it will be deleted after all. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 17:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Deleted. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:45, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter. It had been in the Other or Good category, then a couple people rated it down to have it trashed. I'm pretty sure we only archive Good and Great builds, though, so it was deleted as it should have been. That contest version would be an improvement, though. =P ــмıкεнaшк 21:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
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