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There are a number of issues that can only be solved by an Administrator. The Admin noticeboard is one of the means through which users can contact Administrators in order to identify a problem that needs Administrative attention. Although editors are welcome to directly contact particular Administrators, posting on this page instead may be an easier way to let the entire Administrative group know of the issue (which may be particularly helpful since it increases the odds that at least one Administrator will see, and thus be able to respond to, the issue promptly).

There are only a limited number of things for which this page should be used. Many problems can be solved without Administrative intervention, and, thus, this page should be restricted to those issues that actually require an Administrator. Those are: blocking vandals, (un)deleting pages, (un)protecting pages, removing votes (either as per Real Vetting or because the build has been substantially edited), and mediation (only if the situation demands it).

Even in cases of vandalism, posting on this page needn't be the first step (and indeed should not be the first step). If you see vandalism, just go ahead and revert it, anyone has the power to do so. If it's a new article with no safe version to revert back to, tag it for deletion. In both cases you should leave a message in the talk page of that user to make him/her aware of why that kind of edit is unacceptable on PvXwiki. Only post here if that user persists in his/her actions, ignoring the warnings or if the content requires immediate Administrative attention (eg. if the material on the page is so offensive that should be immediately deleted).

(Be careful in case that user repeatedly insists on vandalizing, avoid a revert war; it's far better to temporarily leave the vandalized version of the page up until an admin has a chance to intervene.)

To create a new request: add an item to the bottom of the list below, providing a brief, neutral summary of the issue. As a sign of courtesy, also leave a message on the talk page of any other involved users so they are aware of this discussion. If you are alerting an admin of a vandal, use the {{IP}} template, with the first parameter being the vandal's IP or username. If you are requesting that vote(s) be removed, please use the {{Build}} template, with the first parameter being the build's name.

Note that this is not a talk page and that the respective moderators of each section reserve the right to remove non-administrative comments without discussion.

Please place new requests at the bottom of the corresponding issues heading.

General Issues

General problems, such as user conduct, vandalism, and bans. Also, suggestions can be posted here. All can be resolved by an Administrator. See resolved General Issues here.

Єяøהħ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Eronth apparently, but something got fucked. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 16:01, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

Lukejohnson (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Needs to stop being such a complete idiot. See 99% of his contribs. Tab McPiplup 06:30, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Lmao. It's sad, but I agree. Mr. Big 19px 06:33, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
warned to stop NPAing and start writing build articles fully. If he NPA's or posts another build that isn't ~fully written after it's moved into trial, tell me and he can have a vacation. PheNaxKian Sysop 06:35, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

For admins in regards to this user. It's evident he hadn't read the policies after a couple of warnings. As such I told him to read an abide by these (as indeed should all users). as such, if you see him brake any policy at all, please issue a ban. PheNaxKian Sysop 16:58, 23 September 2008 (EDT)

Mgrinshpon (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Sock puppetry. Infinite ban on socks, increase ban length on main account each time he does it. -Auron 10:05, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

? youre an admin, why are you posting it on the AN?-çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂCrossfirexiv grinchsig 17:03, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
contrary to popular belief, admins need to sleep/eat and do human and RL related activities ^^. As such, Auron won't always be on. PheNaxKian Sysop 17:05, 21 September 2008 (EDT)
Admins are humans too? Gee was I wrong :)-çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂCrossfirexiv grinchsig 17:07, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

Just FYI, he has about a hundred socks already. They were all created before his ban. (Same goes for GWW, come to that.) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 20:17, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Col.NF (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

[1] + vent = Napalm. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 18:22, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Col.NF
Colonel.NF
Colonel.NapalmF
Colonel.NapalmFlame
.. oh my.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 14:22, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
  • sure i posted a seconded ago...* Perma'd PheNaxKian Sysop 14:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Sorrow (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Rask. At least one of them is. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 00:35, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

^is most likely Igor. paul is most likely Rask.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 00:39, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Im Misery's sock (he said that). --SorrowMcSorrowmancer 12:28, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
checkuser says otherwise. =p PheNaxKian Sysop 12:45, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Still might be Rask, we know for a fact he uses proxies. Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 15:15, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Resolved by Auron. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 15:17, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Paul teh Bone Fiend (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

ups i broke the noticeboard when this and the above were combined. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 00:36, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Not to mention NPA. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 00:40, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
S0ck? BaineImgBaineTheBotter 00:41, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
chekuser doesn't seem to like me looking him up =s. though the logs do show that he's been checked before...so i'm sure he's not a perma'd user or anyone's sock ;) PheNaxKian Sysop 12:45, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Keep in mind that proxy > checkuser. There are a number of ways to fool checkuser, the simplest being just using a different computer >.> ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 13:11, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
I herd proxies are pretty win. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 14:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Resolved by Auron. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 15:17, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Failaxkian (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

Jackass vandalizing random build pages. clearly a former wikier based on name. ViYCabooseSig1(LVPoW) 17:39, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Napalm. ViYCabooseSig1(LVPoW) 17:52, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

MOARCPPLZ (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

same as above, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 18:06, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

got him. PheNaxKian Sysop 18:07, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Shadowsin (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

He keeps harassing and intimidating me to a point it's not funny anymore. SazzyPoohPinkNautical18:29, 29 Sep 2008

He isn't breaking NPA; just ignore him, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 18:31, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
He's breaking it in a subtle way. SazzyPoohPinkNautical18:31, 29 Sep 2008
It must be so subtle even I do not know I'm doing it. hmm...----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 18:34, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Tbh, just leave her alone, and everyone will be happy. If anything, though, what you're doing is closer to trolling than breaking NPA. =/ ــмıкεнaшк 18:38, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
NPA isn't the only policy tbh. People have been banned for less. SazzyPoohPinkNautical18:41, 29 Sep 2008

Caboose (talk · contribs · logs · check user · block user · block log)

requesting perma. /wave. ViYCabooseSig1(LVPoW) 12:28, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Bai... ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:29, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
you banned him for two weeks, not a permaban. Steve 13:37, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
Caboose requested a oerma. It makes more sense to do a temp ban, because then if he wants to come back he can without us having to unblock him. PheNaxKian Sysop 13:52, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
Why does he want a self ban?-çɼoʂʂƴƿʃooƿʂ ɱçƒıɼeƿʃɑçkɘʃʂCrossfirexiv grinchsig 14:16, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Build-Specific Issues

Build-Specific refers to any issue pertaining to the removal of votes, usually resolved by a Build Master or Administrator. See resolved issues here.

If you wish to dispute another user's vote, it is advised to do so on the build's talk page. This section of the noticeboard is intended to notify Admins or Build Masters of issues that can be speedily resolved (e.g. factually incorrect votes) or issues in need of mediation. Avoid debating builds or votes here.

Note: If applicable, please identify specific votes to improve admin response time.

Team - Condition Shutdown (talk · rate)

Updated to better fit today's meta, thus renders a few of the votes incorrect, also many of the votes seem to have been made without understanding how to properly run the team, and provided with the ability I could easily argue nearly all of the reasons listed against the build. Do as you see fit. -Jax010//healingp=0 01:09, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

D/any Asurans Terminator (talk · rate)

lol all of the votes are either outdated or provide no reason for 4 universitility. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 23:58, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Unrelated, this should probably replace Build:D/Mo Reaper's Sweep PvE, its pointless to have two of the same build--ShadowRelyk Sig 00:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)

Team - HB Mind Shock (talk · rate)

Total revamp of the build, requires wipe of all votes except mine which was made after the revamp. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 22:58, 21 September 2008 (EDT)

suggest wiping his vote, too. and the Gah My Name etc might be sock? Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 00:57, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
I would suggest removing the biased author vote also. --FrostyMini england 01:53, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
Gah isn't a sock. joined on the day crash was fixed. CABOSE(LVPoW)"Hey chicka bum bum!" 03:36, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
Done. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:05, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
As much as I think Frosty's rating is correct, is reasoning is piss poor and should be removed or changed. It's not even comprehensible tbh. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 15:25, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

Team - Triple Necro Vanquish (talk · rate)

Garrond's vote. Using the build wrong I guess.--ShadowRelyk Sig 22:20, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

R/D Zealous Vow Ranger (talk · rate)

Would like an administrator analysis on votes. Prep/Scavenge Ranger both use elites to fuel Concussion Shot, Scavanger only pumps it out 50%, and Prepared Shot only allows for certain amount of usage. BHA misses and 15 recharge gets raped by RC and the like. + MOTA gives an inferior suggestion. Thank you. Huynh Sanity 00:48, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

D/any Dervish Healer (talk · rate)

Goldenstar. --Thunda Sig 2Thunda 18:38, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Is banned atm. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 23:54, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure you can still remove his votes if he is banned. Thunda Sig 2Thunda 20:36, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   13:01, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

R/P Enraged Spearchucker (talk · rate) and R/P Imba Pet Build (talk · rate)

Have been merged here they need to be deleted. --FrostyMini england 04:41, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

Mm. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   13:00, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

A/E_SH_Deadly_Arts_Spike (talk · rate)

Definitely not 5-5. ــмıкεнaшк 15:37, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

W/any Manly Weaponswapper (talk · rate)

Moved back to trial.--TheHunger 16:32, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

done. PheNaxKian Sysop 16:36, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Phen, the guy moved it back b/c he didnt like the votes... Check the talk please... --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   23:39, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

A/W_Shove_Sin (talk · rate)

User:Cedave seems to be taking a personal note to his vote and is undervoting it. See User_Talk:Pika_Fan and User_Talk:Saint. Also, Pika Fan's build gives a reason of being similar to another build on the wiki, although that shouldnt be a reason for vetting, but rather a reason for a WELL tag. Saint 20:05, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

My last words of advice to you: If you really wanted someone to rethink his/her voting, or to listen to you in general, be polite going about it. Nobody will bother to listen if you told the person in question he/she has an attitude problem because you thought he/she should have rated higher, much less troll the entire talkpage with insults and the like. Cheers. P.S: The reason why I still voted was because the build was slightly different and was meant for a different purpose. Nevertheless the usage is more or less the same as the one we have, which is to do a knockdown spike. Refer to this for a display of your attitude: Please get over your attitude and reconsider your vote. The point of the build is to replace Build:A/W_Falling_Shove_Sin, because it is far superior. Just because one that is here is similar to it, doesn't mean this one should be immediately vetted down, you should compare the two and see which is superior. I believe this one is.Saint 23:08, 26 September 2008 (EDT) PikaFanLightningbolt sig 20:29, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
He's right, removed. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   21:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
ty, do me a quick favor and check out cedaves. although the reasoning doesnt look personal, what transpired on pika and my talk pages begs to differ.Saint 22:04, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
@Frv I don't see anything wrong with not giving innovation for a build which idea is more or less the same as existing builds, nor giving a lower rating than similar existing builds because it lacks damage, which I so clearly stated in my reasoning. Well, it's not my call and I respect your decision, but neither will I revise my ratings because I know my reasoning wasn't flawed.PikaFanLightningbolt sig 22:13, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Thats not the problem, the problem is that you are changing your rating based on already having similar builds on the wiki. Rate it on its merits, not on the fact that its similar. Just remove the parts mentioning the other build and it will be fine tbh. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:09, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
hes still undervoting is, as is Cedave.Saint 15:18, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Team - Balanced MoI Spike (talk · rate)

Wojo's vote says spike is too long when it can be done anywhere from 8-10 seconds. 5, if you're not using Vicious but thats a bit risky. Ojamo says it wins GvG because its against lots of physicals but gives no reason as to why it doesnt work in HA. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 22:39, 27 September 2008 (EDT)

W/any_Defy_Pain_Farmer (talk · rate)

There are votes when it was in trial, now in testing, and the votes are innacurate. Requesting vote wipe.Saint 10:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

*cough* a look at page history and vote timestamps will conclusively demonstrate that the build was in TESTING when i voted. however, the build was afterwards moved in trial and changed considerably, so, yes, vote wipe.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 10:37, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
its ok if u voted the first trial, but this page isn't a discussion page, and i didnt need a second opinion on the matter.Saint 10:41, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
Done. I removed the first two on the basis that changes have been made since it was moved into trial, the third (the 5-5) voted while in trial. PheNaxKian Sysop 10:43, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

W/P Soldier's Rush (talk · rate)

Um... This is a warrior build. Blah10.

Um... What? ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:08, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
Whether it's a warrior build or not is immaterial. The build is inferior to the P/W version, as that one doesn't have to recast a 5 energy skill every 10 seconds, which isnt much but its more than it seems on a warrior. Paras just get it done better. And this has happened before, like the E/D water trident HB capper being worse than the almost-identical D/E version. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 15:11, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

What happened to

This D/any build that used pious renewal+mystic sandstorm with tons of enchants to deal large AoE damage with conditions and great survivability? I can't find it anywhere in the archived or working builds, and i'm pretty sure it wasn't trashed as it was in great the last time i looked. This is a pretty old build from Guildwiki so im not sure if it was lost or votewiped+trashed. Something like this:

Pious Renewal Heart of Holy Flame Dust Cloak Aura of Thorns Optional Optional Mystic Sandstorm Resurrection Signet


Or something. I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contests! 15:14, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

i couldn't see any D/any Pious dervishes in deleted (at least nothing that was clear), if you had a name it might help =s. It's also possiable it's completly gone from when Hippo purged the server a while ago. PheNaxKian Sysop 16:37, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

P/W Focused PvE Paragon (talk · rate)

Coloneh's vote. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 16:21, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

k. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Coloneh's vote again, reapplied with exact same reasoning, not a single change. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 18:07, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

Done. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:24, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Coloneh's vote, yet again. This is getting redundent. Posted a note on his Talk. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 17:18, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

I really don't want to ban him. Removed. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:15, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Back. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 02:49, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

W/P PvE Cruel Paragon (talk · rate)

Could Mr Guild of Deals please read the section underneath the Build Template, and also the Notes. Blah10.

There is no notes section. Also, he did. You don't have an IAS on the main bar. You have it optional with 9 other skills. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 20:20, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
My bad, i meant Variants... Would putting an IAS on the main bar fix this little shinannigans? Blah10
yes. Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 21:30, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
Dhun Blah10
K. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:24, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

W/any Raging Hammer (talk · rate)

Froggerton's vote provides no reasoning.--TheHunger 22:02, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

K. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   11:24, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Various votes

here, here, and here, all by Sup or whatever his name is. Didn't feel like spamming noticeboard so yeah. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 15:33, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Alright. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:13, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Team - Bipsacc Way (talk · rate)

The Blight and Pwnagemuffin's votes on a Trial build.--TheHunger 18:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

My vote on a trial build MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:44, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Pwnage don't do that. And removed. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   19:12, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

R/P_RaO_Spear_Pressure (talk · rate)

Jax is terrible at this game.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 22:48, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Actually, he's not. The energy regen you'd get, plus zealous at 33% wouldn't give you enough to use your attack skills and maintain RaO and Apply Poison, much less rez your pet if it goes down. ups. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 00:57, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
No build discussion here. It wouldnt be meta if I was wrong.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 08:32, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

Team - Asuran Shot (talk · rate)

Current 3 voters think this build kills only 1 enemy every spike, but it kills 5, followed by another 5 with the secondary spike. (I know it sounds epic for single-target damage, but I can provide calculations if you don't believe it.) --Sir Bertrand 09:23, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

^ also see my vote.--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 10:33, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
Pretty much anyone who isn't me, reason.decrystallized or ojamo has no idea what they are talking about.--The Gates Assassin 17:30, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
ups Gates is biased. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 18:03, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

A/P Promise Spear (talk · rate)

Biased author vote is biased. Also, Jjberks's vote just makes me say "LOLWUT". – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 18:43, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

I'll edit mine and I'll ask Jjberks to be more honest. He has a tendency of voting my builds really well, so it's probably biased. Karate Jesus 18:45, 30 September 2008 (EDT)
I took care of it. Karate Jesus 18:49, 30 September 2008 (EDT)

General Coding Issues

Coding refers to any issue or bug that needs to be dealt with by a Server Administrator (Gcardinal or Hhhippo). See resolved issues here. PvXcode related issues have their own section below.

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Recent Changes

The RSS and Atom feeds don't work. ¬ Klumpeet 15:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Trial Builds

Is there a reason a huge number of them aren't showing up in Special:GraceExpired? — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 17:26, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Fixed. Was a bug in the script. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:08, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

Possible Name-Server Issue

On my current computer, www.pvxwiki.com doesnt load. I thought the system was down, so i pinged. Ping was successful, and more importantly pvxwiki.com(no WWW) did work. Normally a nameserver issu develops from the opposite problem(www is necessary to a successful load).19px--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 11:03, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

I didnt try just pvxwiki.com but from around 9:00 to 12:00 PvX didnt work for me at all. Did the server crash? I is *Jebus*IAmJebussig3Enter my contest! 12:50, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
The PvX server was rebooted several times between 8:25 and 11:00 EDT today. Gcardinal was working on some networking issues, you'd have to ask him for details. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 15:26, 21 August 2008 (EDT)

This and This

They are the same thing (the first is just the code for the 2nd link), but the idea is the little search bar in the top right corner of firefox (at least for me), but one for PvX. I think we could easily modify that to make ourselves one, but idk about the copying or implementation. Frvwfr2 btw, logged out to test the search function. ~~ Frvwfr2 16:14, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

New idea, since GWW and GW have one, we could just ask Poke for help. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:15, 11 September 2008 (EDT)
Poke tells me that it is a feature of a later version of MediaWiki, but idk if that's an option what with all the custom stuff or w/e. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   14:45, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Font

Is it possible to upload a font. A certain font on my computer is different on pvx.--XCrossfire Godlysig14 20:44, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Not entirely sure what you're asking, but if you want to change the font on PvX, you can go to Special:Mypage/monobook.css and add body { font-family:"blah"; } But I have a feeling that's not what you're asking, so clarify please. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:51, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
i think he's talking about the font families. like Times New Roman and that stuff. CABOSE(LVPoW)"Hey chicka bum bum!" 19:07, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
As far as I know, all fonts are user-side only; that is, I could set the font in my sig to Times New Roman, but if I didn't have Times New Roman installed on my computer, the browser would just revert to the default font. Similarly, I could be a pro and make up my own font family that no one else has and use it for my sig; in that case, my browser would recognize and use it just fine, but everyone else's browsers wouldn't recognize it and revert to their browsers' default fonts instead. --Mafaraxas (talk) 19:33, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
Meh like for example if i created my own font, is it possible to load said font into pvx, and for multiple users to use it and it would display correctly on their browsers.--XCrossfire Godlysig14 20:36, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
As long as the people you care about have the font on their computer, it would work, and there wouldn't be any need for you to upload the font to PvX. I don't think PvX even has the capability for users to upload anything other than images. If you want to get the font to your friends, just upload the font file to a third party file sharing site, then tell your friends to download from there and copypasta into their font folder. --Mafaraxas (talk) 22:13, 16 September 2008 (EDT)
Or just use images or universally-friendly fonts. Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 22:52, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Forum links

Could possibly get some coding to link to the forums for specific builds? For example, if in the article, there is some code such as "forums=(URL)" then it would add a link to the top. Is this possible? We could just make a template and add it to these pages I guess. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   12:50, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Display issues with Safari Browser

Well, I recently downloaded the new Safari browser and i like it a lot. However, there seems to be some kind of display issue with PvX. The navigation bar that is supposed to appear on the left hand side of each article is just a blank white area and the links from that are pushed down to the very bottom of the page below the white area. Could be something to do with my computer, but can someone else using safari confirm? Thanks Peter 02:58, 26 September 2008 (EDT)

Yea, the sidebar links are getting pushed down below the article body on every page. I'll look into it and see if I can change the css or something to fix it if I have time. Hhhippo might know how to fix it. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:44, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Nothing I've tried fixes it. It's entirely possible it's a safari bug. But if anyone else who knows some css wants to try to figure it out, here's a summary of what I tried:
  1. Reducing the width of the article body and/or sidebar just leaves a bigger gap between them.
  2. Changing the white-space:nowrap in the h4, h5, and h6's for .portlet to white-space:normal removes the big section of whitespace, and the sidebar looks normal... except that it's still shoved down below the article.
  3. Changing the border, padding, and margin for .portlet and #pBody did nothing.
I tried more than this, but I don't remember it all. Also, guildwiki, GWW, and wikipedia all look normal in Safari. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 18:26, 26 September 2008 (EDT)
Confirmed, no other wikis seem to be having this issue. Peter 07:53, 27 September 2008 (EDT)
Opera, IE, Firefox, and Chrome all load the wiki fine. I'm guessing it's a rendering issue in Safari. If you want, I could try to write up a CSS that'll fix it for just you that you can put in your monobook. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 20:24, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
If it was a rendering issue would it not an effect on the other wikis? Its not a huge problem by an stretch of the imagination, just a bit inconvenient. I will contact apple and see what they say....Peter 04:26, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, all I can get out of apple is that its not a Safari browser problem.....back to using firefox i go lol. Peter 02:46, 1 October 2008 (EDT)

PvXcode Issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. Resolved issues are moved here.

Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions.

Dash and Expertise

Expertise doesn't reduce the energy cost of dash. See Build:R/A Exhausting Assault Ranger|here. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Expertise isn't meant to reduce energy cost of Dash (see what expertise effects; Ranger skills, attack skills, touch skills and binding rituals). /FrosTalk\ 18:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)
That's... wow. They changed it back in October of 2006, and I never noticed XD I still thought it affected all non-spell skills :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 19:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
"For each rank of Expertise, the Energy cost of all of your attacks, Rituals, touch skills and Rangers skills are decreased by 4%." Just FYI, from GWW. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:14, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
An admin that's two years out of date, you need an update :P /FrosTalk\ 21:18, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
The funny thing is, I probably would have noticed if my suggestion below was implemented :P ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:31, 10 June 2008 (EDT)
Ironic or what ;) /FrosTalk\ 23:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

Hex Breaker

Build:Team - HB Blackout Spike, in the optional list it says it lasts 65s@10. However, it is actually 55 in game. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   10:26, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

A lot of skills haven't been updated on PvX since the split between PvP and PvE skills, I'm not sure what PvX is going to do to show the difference between the skills in PvP and PvE. Byakko 02:59, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Hex breaker isn't a split pve/pvp skill, nor has its duration been changed recently. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 03:34, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
Well this Wiki uses historic Skill Data (Back from March 2008) which was way before the Splitting and therefore a skill doesnt need to have been changed recently in order to be displayed wrong here. And thats not the only issue here 87.183.41.200 07:58, 29 June 2008 (EDT)
Ah, you're right (/doh) I also saw the note about asking about updates above so I guess is best to manually crosscheck wiki's to be sure sorry WB ^^ Byakko 19:20, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Health Sacrifice

The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --CJNyfalt 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. Brandnew. 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
See here. Either gwshack is not up to date or <pvxbig> is not compatible. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ ZamaneeJinnSigZamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Chilling Victory

Just to bring to attention, the Chilling Victory now has 2 different attribute lines based on PvE and PvP. So it might be something you guys should be able to handle or not. Huynh Sanity 00:05, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

We haven't gotten any split PvE/PvP skills working yet :( We'll figure it out (eventually) ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:52, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm wondering if it's time to start to put some restrictions on builds being tagged for both PvE and PvP. Maybe adding a type=pve or type=pvp option to PvX code would be the solution? --CJNyfalt 01:34, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
I think the cleanest solution lies in the creation of a skill database on PvX. Last I checked, it was ~80% done; we're waiting on a new test server. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
For the time being, can't we just use a [Chilling Victory@<insert rank in wind prayers>] for CV? 19pxAce (LVPoW) 00:39, 12 July 2008 (EDT)
Yes, you can, but that only works in this case. Most other split skills didn't just have their attribute changed :( ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 00:39, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Aww beat me to itPuneY 00:37, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
PvP/PvE changes are fixed now? [2] for proof. Look at Watch yourself and look at PvP version of it. 19pxAce(LVPoW) 19:52, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Missing Build

Erm, not sure if anyone has noticed, but while I was setting up my competition, I noticed no A/P builds, I am certain there was a Dark Apostasy Spear build vetted on the wiki, it was in Other, but I thought it may have been archived, but not there, does anyone have any light on such an issue, of builds just dissapearing, it was similiar to this User:Saint/Build:A/P_Spear_Of_Disenchantment Frosty No U! 14:38, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

I think it was slowly unfavoured, although it should have been archived. It used Remedy Signet instead of Assassin's Remedy (which was a bad choice) and something else instead of Wearying Strike. ــмıкεнaшк 14:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)


These are the deleted A/P builds that are still in our database. If you can find a bored admin, he might look them through to restore and archive the one you're missing. Build:A/PCritical_Conditions, Build:A/P_Anthemous_Assassin, Build:A/P_Assachucher, Build:A/P_Assassin's_Fury, Build:A/P_Assassin's_Weariness, Build:A/P_CA_Assassin, Build:A/P_Commanding_Assassin, Build:A/P_Condition_Sin, Build:A/P_Crip_Anthem_Sin, Build:A/P_Crippling_Anthem_Assassin, Build:A/P_Crit_Spear, Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter, Build:A/P_Critcal_Spear, Build:A/P_Critical_Conditions, Build:A/P_Critical_Fury, Build:A/P_Critical_Harpooner, Build:A/P_Critical_Shouter, Build:A/P_Critical_Spear, Build:A/P_Critical_Spear_Sin, Build:A/P_Critical_Spears, Build:A/P_Defensive_Spear, Build:A/P_Disenchanting_spear, Build:A/P_Falling_Blades, Build:A/P_Falling_blades, Build:A/P_Fox's_Promise_Spearchucker, Build:A/P_Infection_of_Fury, Build:A/P_Merciless_Fox, Build:A/P_Mighty_Sinspear, Build:A/P_Mighty_Spearsin, Build:A/P_Multi_Target_Striker, Build:A/P_Pressure_Spear, Build:A/P_PvE_Critical_Spear-chucker, Build:A/P_Repeating_Lotus, Build:A/P_Seeping_Critical_Daggers, Build:A/P_Seeping_Criticals, Build:A/P_Shattering_Weakness, Build:A/P_Shuriken_Assassin, Build:A/P_Siphon_Spear_Shrine_Capper, Build:A/P_Spear_Assassin, Build:A/P_Spear_of_Apostasy, Build:A/P_Stunning_Assassin, Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Repeating_Critical, Build:A/P_Way_of_the_Spear – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:19, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Anyone with Disenchantment/Dark Apostasy/Anything to do with a DA Spear Sin would be it, the CA Assassin was mine :D Frosty No U! 17:23, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Where u want it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:25, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Don't worry, Dont got it. Frosty No U! 17:28, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
We are discussing if it should be archived. I dont think it should, as it was never meta. Copy paste or move it to your userspace, and then we/I will delete it. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:29, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was vetted in November, and went unfavourewd in May, Archive imo, it just fell out of favour, that's what happens to some builds that get archived. Frosty No U! 17:33, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was never in favor tho. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:35, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Since it wasn't really meta and we already have tons of archived builds, it will be deleted after all. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 17:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Deleted. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   17:45, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
It was Build:A/P_Crit_Spear_Disenchanter. It had been in the Other or Good category, then a couple people rated it down to have it trashed. I'm pretty sure we only archive Good and Great builds, though, so it was deleted as it should have been. That contest version would be an improvement, though. =P ــмıкεнaшк 21:44, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

Boss Builds Category

Template Codes

I see template codes such as this. Build:Team - SFway PvE#4 SF Hex Removers CABOSE(LVPoW)"Hey chicka bum bum!" 20:41, 13 September 2008 (EDT)

It's because it is E/any while it has Cure Hex on his bar. Thunda Sig 2Thunda 20:43, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
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