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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the nomination of a user for Build Master status. <span style="color: red;">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> No further edits should be made to this page.''
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=== [[User:Goldenstar|Goldenstar]] ([[User talk:Goldenstar|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Goldenstar|contribs]]) &bull; [[PvXwiki:Requests for Build Master Status/Goldenstar|RfBM page]])===
 
=== [[User:Goldenstar|Goldenstar]] ([[User talk:Goldenstar|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Goldenstar|contribs]]) &bull; [[PvXwiki:Requests for Build Master Status/Goldenstar|RfBM page]])===
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:[[User:Goldenstar]] was promoted on 00:20, 7 December 2008 (EST) by [[User:Auron]].
   
 
There are quite a few reasons why Goldenstar would make a good BM compared to the various other RFBMs and even RFAs that have been clogging up the request system over the past few months. Compared to Phenexxian, Saint, and ilk such as those, Goldenstar is infinitely more qualified. He has a high hero rank, satisfactory guild history, an ability to play a wide variety of positions and well, and most importantly, knows this community inside and out. Goldenstar is one of the older ones and knows exactly how to handle situations be it voting or personal disputes. Thusly, due to his age, he already has a good knowledge of existing precedents set forth by existing build masters but at the same time, due to his above average (e.g. not retarded like the average PvX person) intelligence, he knows how and when to apply the existing and how to forge new ones or disregard old ones for the good of the wiki as a whole. Goldenstar would, undoubtably, make a good build master that would better this wiki in ways that the morons currently with authority could only have dreamed of. '''[[User:Mgrinshpon|<font color="darkpink">—ǥrɩɳsɧƴ</font>]][[User talk:Mgrinshpon|<font color="deeppink">ɖɩđđɭɘş</font>]]''' [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 22:37, 25 November 2008 (EST)
 
There are quite a few reasons why Goldenstar would make a good BM compared to the various other RFBMs and even RFAs that have been clogging up the request system over the past few months. Compared to Phenexxian, Saint, and ilk such as those, Goldenstar is infinitely more qualified. He has a high hero rank, satisfactory guild history, an ability to play a wide variety of positions and well, and most importantly, knows this community inside and out. Goldenstar is one of the older ones and knows exactly how to handle situations be it voting or personal disputes. Thusly, due to his age, he already has a good knowledge of existing precedents set forth by existing build masters but at the same time, due to his above average (e.g. not retarded like the average PvX person) intelligence, he knows how and when to apply the existing and how to forge new ones or disregard old ones for the good of the wiki as a whole. Goldenstar would, undoubtably, make a good build master that would better this wiki in ways that the morons currently with authority could only have dreamed of. '''[[User:Mgrinshpon|<font color="darkpink">—ǥrɩɳsɧƴ</font>]][[User talk:Mgrinshpon|<font color="deeppink">ɖɩđđɭɘş</font>]]''' [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 22:37, 25 November 2008 (EST)
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#*(12:36:40 AM) Harry: i will
 
#*(12:36:40 AM) Harry: i will
 
#*(12:36:45 AM) Goldenstar: <3[[User:Dark0805|<font color=black><b>--Dark0805</b></font>]]<small><b>(</b>[[User_talk:Dark0805|<font color=red>Rant</font>]]<b>/</b>[[Special:Contributions/Dark0805|<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions</font>]]<b>)</b></small> 00:42, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 
#*(12:36:45 AM) Goldenstar: <3[[User:Dark0805|<font color=black><b>--Dark0805</b></font>]]<small><b>(</b>[[User_talk:Dark0805|<font color=red>Rant</font>]]<b>/</b>[[Special:Contributions/Dark0805|<font color=#ff11aa>Contributions</font>]]<b>)</b></small> 00:42, 30 November 2008 (EST)
#He knows what he's doing.--[[User:128.211.248.24|128.211.248.24]] 21:04, 30 November 2008 (EST)
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#<s>He knows what he's doing.--[[User:128.211.248.24|128.211.248.24]]</s> 21:04, 30 November 2008 (EST)
#:We need more noob HA'er BMs apparently--[[User:Underwood|<font color="black">''Get Your Wood On''</font>]] [[User talk:Underwood|<small>Discuss</small>]] 05:22, 1 December 2008 (EST)
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#We need more noob HA'er BMs apparently--[[User:Underwood|<font color="black">''Get Your Wood On''</font>]] [[User talk:Underwood|<small>Discuss</small>]] 05:22, 1 December 2008 (EST)
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#[[User:Swiftslash|<font color="black">'''Swiftslash \\'''</font>]] [[Image:Impale.jpg|19px]] <small> ([[Special:Contributions/Swiftslash|<font color="Black">''contributions''</font>]] *[[User:Swiftslash/sandbox|<font color="black">''sandbox''</font>]])</small> 14:36, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#experienced and strong. should write up his own builds though ;o <b>[[User_talk:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ɟoʇuɐʌ</font>]][[User:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ʎʞɔıɹ</font>]][[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]]</b> 14:41, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#:Frosty = Goldenstar's writer-up-er-er D: --[[User:Frosty|<font color="Black">F<small>'''rosty''']]</small></font> 14:53, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#::[[Build: Team - HA Riftspike|what?]] --{{user:Guild of Deals/signature}} 15:09, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#I just want to be popular....plus I like dicks....that came out wrong. Omg, I said came....[[Image:Xsig.png]] 14:58, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#:winningest vote of all time--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 15:30, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#::gracias [[Image:Xsig.png]] 18:11, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#Knows his shit around the wiki and in GW. Definite dick but as GoD said you need to be COMPLETE FUCKING RUTHLESS to be a BM. <3 -- [[User:I Am Jebus|<font color=black>Jebus</font>]][[User:I Am Jebus/Contests|<small><sub><font color=black>contests</font></sub></small>]] 16:12, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#Seems to know his stuff & isn't afraid of calling something shit if it is. [[User:Andy|Andy]] 17:59, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#we need more non-banned BM's, really. and he seems to know his shit. yes, he's a dick at times, but sometimes dicks fuck assholes, and with all the crap in testing that's an appropriate metaphor.--[[User:reason.decrystallized|'''<font color="blue">reason</font>''']]'''<font color="black">.</font>'''[[user_talk:reason.decrystallized|'''<font color="blue">decrystallized</font>''']] <small>''<font color="red">I frenzy-healsig.</font>''</small> 19:47, 4 December 2008 (EST)
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#:<small>though i do have to say, the nomination was just ... heartwarming, really it was. merry christmas, and my god bless us, every one!</small>--[[User:reason.decrystallized|'''<font color="blue">reason</font>''']]'''<font color="black">.</font>'''[[user_talk:reason.decrystallized|'''<font color="blue">decrystallized</font>''']] <small>''<font color="red">I frenzy-healsig.</font>''</small> 19:50, 4 December 2008 (EST)
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#Knows his stuff. Some temper problems, but nothing to be worried about, I'm in agreeance (word?) with others that BM needs to be blunt. [[User:Disciple|Disciple]] 20:14, 4 December 2008 (EST)
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#Knows how to play and isn't afraid to be a dick to anyone that says something wrong. We need a BM who's active and not afraid to get shit done. [[Image:Zefirsig.jpg|19px]][[User:Zefir|<font color="green">'''God''' </font>]][[User_talk:Zefir|<font color="blue">'''Zefir'''</font>]] 20:22, 4 December 2008 (EST)
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#Its all been said before already. A dick, but thats exactly what we need sometimes around here. --[[Image:Xmassigangelus.jpg]] 08:10, 5 December 2008 (EST)
   
 
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#Not particularly good, and is wrong on a regular basis. Attitude isn't the best either. <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[PvXwiki:Sign your comments|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User talk:Ibreaktoilets|Ibreaktoilets]] ([[Special:Contributions/Ibreaktoilets|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->
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#Not particularly good, and is wrong on a regular basis. Attitude isn't the best either. See [[User_talk:Goldenstar#Water_eles_are_baed.2C_run_earth|this]] [[Build_talk:Team_-_HA_Knocklockway|and this]]. If you're willing to BM anyone that knows what the basic meta builds are, go ahead and promote Goldenstar. However, if you want BMs that actually explain and back up their arguments with valid points, as well as having a decent temperament (ignoring mine, I am/was a terrible BM), then those links would make me seriously question Goldenstar's viability. Self-contradiction and repetitive flaming, especially when the user opposing your argument is for the most part correct, are not argumentative techniques that I'd find desirable. <small>&mdash;''The preceding [[PvXwiki:Sign your comments|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User talk:Ibreaktoilets|Ibreaktoilets]] ([[Special:Contributions/Ibreaktoilets|contribs]]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!--Inserted with Template:Unsigned-->
 
#Bad attitude and vandalises =S --[[Image:Release Enchantmentsliger414bleh.jpg|19px]] [[User:Liger414|<font color="blue"><b>Liger414</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Liger414|<font color="teal"><b>talk</b></font>]] 16:57, 26 November 2008 (EST)
 
#Bad attitude and vandalises =S --[[Image:Release Enchantmentsliger414bleh.jpg|19px]] [[User:Liger414|<font color="blue"><b>Liger414</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Liger414|<font color="teal"><b>talk</b></font>]] 16:57, 26 November 2008 (EST)
 
#:Not true at all, you're just upset that i gave your expel dervish the trash rating it deserves =\--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 17:42, 26 November 2008 (EST)
 
#:Not true at all, you're just upset that i gave your expel dervish the trash rating it deserves =\--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 17:42, 26 November 2008 (EST)
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#::it's kind of epic tbh--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 14:07, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 
#::it's kind of epic tbh--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 14:07, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 
#::Because he's overly dickish and not that knowledgeable. [[User:69.248.232.88|69.248.232.88]] 14:19, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 
#::Because he's overly dickish and not that knowledgeable. [[User:69.248.232.88|69.248.232.88]] 14:19, 30 November 2008 (EST)
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#:Both you and tab don't even bother to come here any more (for any other reason than trolling and useless shit nobody cares about) so why the fuck do you even care? <b>[[User_talk:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ɟoʇuɐʌ</font>]][[User:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ʎʞɔıɹ</font>]][[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]]</b> 14:47, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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#::I'm pissed at tab, tab thinks its lulzy and ska does what tab tells him to. So that's why =\--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 15:08, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#:::Ska and Tab don't come here anymore because they're currently banned...<span style="font-family: comic sans ms; font-size: 10pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4F94CD"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#9400D3">Sysop</font>]]</span>''' 15:14, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#::I care about PvX, there's just no help for it until [[PvXwiki:Get the Fuck Out, Autist]] is a policy. [[User:69.248.232.88|69.248.232.88]] 15:24, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#:::dude, at least i still fucking play the game instead of spending hours upon hours idling in GToB. It's usually a good idea to make sure '''you're''' not an autist before you start calling people names--[[user:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Golden</font>]][[image:Goldenstar.JPG|19px]][[user talk:Goldenstar|<font color=#C68E17>Star</font>]] 15:33, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#:::I'm not an autist :( <b>[[User_talk:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ɟoʇuɐʌ</font>]][[User:Rickyvantof|<font color=black>ʎʞɔıɹ</font>]][[Image:Panic_srsbsns.gif|37px]]</b> 15:38, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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#How does bm'ing him help move builds out of testing? Also, His votes are almost never insightful, Never helpful, and never in a pleasant tone. "Knowing your stuff" without the attitude and charisma to go with it wont make anyone want to listen to what you have to say. That and the fact that he can't make a valid argument without following it up by some petty insult.----[[User:Shadowsin|<font color="black">ﮎHædõ๘</font>]][[User talk:Shadowsin|<font color="darkred">یíɳ</font>]][[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 02:11, 5 December 2008 (EST)
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#:A BM means he can remove shitty votes. '''[[User:Mgrinshpon|<font color="darkpink">—ǥrɩɳsɧƴ</font>]][[User talk:Mgrinshpon|<font color="deeppink">ɖɩđđɭɘş</font>]]''' [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 23:00, 5 December 2008 (EST)
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#::The fact that he posts some of those shitty votes would make it mildly hypocritical.----[[User:Shadowsin|<font color="black">ﮎHædõ๘</font>]][[User talk:Shadowsin|<font color="darkred">یíɳ</font>]][[image:Shadowsin_sig.PNG|19px]] 00:24, 6 December 2008 (EST)
   
 
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#Never come into contact with him really - '''<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;border-color:black;background-color:white;padding:0px 1px 0px 1px">[[User_talk:Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">Mc</font>]][[User:Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">Tai</font>]] [[Image:Tai_Sig_Image_3.png]] [[Special:Contributions/Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">16:20, 26 November 2008</font>]]</small>'''
 
#Never come into contact with him really - '''<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Verdana;border-style:solid;border-width:1px;border-color:black;background-color:white;padding:0px 1px 0px 1px">[[User_talk:Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">Mc</font>]][[User:Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">Tai</font>]] [[Image:Tai_Sig_Image_3.png]] [[Special:Contributions/Tai|<font face="verdana" color="black">16:20, 26 November 2008</font>]]</small>'''
 
#He knows what hes doing, but he's very dickish, so I can't decide. &rarr;'''<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Felix Titling;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:gold;background-color:black;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;">[[user:Jjberks|<span style="color:white;"><big>J.J.</big></span>]] [[user talk:Jjberks|<span style="color:gold;">berks</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jjberks|<span style="color:gold;">(contrib)</span>]]'''</small> 13:49, 30 November 2008 (EST)
 
#He knows what hes doing, but he's very dickish, so I can't decide. &rarr;'''<small style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:Felix Titling;border-style:solid;border-width:2px;border-color:gold;background-color:black;padding:0px 5px 1px 6px;">[[user:Jjberks|<span style="color:white;"><big>J.J.</big></span>]] [[user talk:Jjberks|<span style="color:gold;">berks</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Jjberks|<span style="color:gold;">(contrib)</span>]]'''</small> 13:49, 30 November 2008 (EST)
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[[Category:Resolved RfBMs|Goldenstar]]
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[[Category:Accepted RfBMs|Goldenstar]]
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