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Generally strong player, knows what do as a bm, wish he was my secret santa =o! --Frosty 16:10, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here: Hmm ye, pvx needs some cleaning up, and im tired of linking things to jake and telling him to do it. gringo for bee emm. -- Gringo TALK 21:14, 24 December 2008(EST)

Support

  1. --GoldenGoldenstarStar 16:15, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  2. 'Do it before he rages, which is inevitable. He's quite new, yes. But I think he knows his shit, and appareantly he's a good player. Brandnew. 16:18, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  3. Swayed me multiple times with my thoughts on topics after reading logical comments. Active. Holds position even when more are disagreeing with him. Disciple
  4. What the fuck people. He's an experienced HA player whose held halls many of times, he's responsible, smart, and friendly. We were saying Skakid was an asshat before he got his RfBM (even then Gringo has been nothing but wanting to contribute kindly), and he's now a BM and a rather smart Guild Wars player. Considering it's such a rarity we have a person with in game experience who wants to clean up the Wiki and improve it's quality, it's really fucking stupid to oppose. Also, for anyone saying he's too "unexperienced", see Special:Contributions/Saint and add those to his. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 07:31, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  5. Who cares if he's rude or not. We could use less carebears in here. Asdfg 11:18, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  6. Knows Guild Wars. Who cares if he's rude, the wiki needs someone who dares to be rude at the hordes of noobs and make them stfu. Also not a bandwagon Rali-Kupo/Mudkip faggot. Smurf Ohai 12:35, 26 December 2008 (EST)
    Rally-kupo! FrostrageFrosty po! 12:54, 26 December 2008 (EST)
  7. Why did we nominate golden? He was badass and knew his shit. You dont become BM by being a pussy, so gringo/saint would be a pretty good BM. JebusJebussigchristmasMcMouseContests 14:04, 26 December 2008 (EST)
    I thought we nominated someone for BM because he knows guild wars and tried to get past the downside he's an asshole, not nominate him because he's a dick. Holiday viy sigVictoryisSantas 09:44, 30 December 2008 (EST)
    What he is saying is "Don't oppose cause he said you were bad" FrostrageFrosty po! 09:47, 30 December 2008 (EST)
    It looks to me like he said "make him build master because he's a badass and he also knows some guild wars Holiday viy sigVictoryisSantas 09:50, 30 December 2008 (EST)
  8. Rawrawr Dinosaur 00:01, 3 January 2009 (EST)
  9. Better than not having him tbh--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 00:08, 3 January 2009 (EST)
  10. Knows what he's doing. CrazyCow 09:22, 4 January 2009 (EST)
  11. He PD's shit with red dot, what else can i say Ballsy SmurfBlacksmurf McHippopotas 15:26, 5 January 2009 (EST)
  12. smarter than the average bear.-Crossfire XIVCrossfire-Winter Gift 21:20, 12 January 2009 (EST)

Oppose

  1. too mean ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 16:11, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  2. Too new for BMship imo. Give him a while to get used to how the wiki works + let people form a better opinion of him. Seems somewhat knowledgeable about builds, but not enough to warrant such early BMship. Cute McMonkeyChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 16:14, 24 December 2008 (EST)
    Apparantly it's Saint, so disregard the newness to wiki stuff. Not really good enough to warrant bmship imo. He never contributed much to the wiki apart from a week or two of "o look i might get adminship". Cute McMonkeyChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 16:20, 24 December 2008 (EST)
    I'd also prefer it if BM candidates based their arguments on actual facts relevant to the discussion rather than "this is my title list, now get sucking". Cute McMonkeyChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 07:12, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  3. Who....? Right. Mr. Big 19px 16:30, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  4. sANTA? Massive Image-Massive Sig 17:13, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  5. Said some shit about Ska being BM of a dead game and has accepted a RfBM, lies about/refuses to prove titles, and is a general asshat. Also, ska said he's terrible. --Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 17:42, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  6. Who's Gringo? Selket Shadowdancer 18:01, 24 December 2008 (EST)
    Saint. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 07:49, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    Who's Saint? Selket Shadowdancer 10:31, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  7. I've seen him make both good comments and absolutely retarded comments. He's far too headstrong, can be a huge douche about it, and needs to clean up his act before approval. -- ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake hissssssssssss 23:03, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  8. What tab said. Plus the temper thingy is an issue. JebusJebussigchristmasMcMouseContests 23:31, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  9. WAY to agressive/headstrong/offensive in rating. has a general idea, but thats about it. a general asshat that has done nothing to deserve it. Alpha firebornAlpha Fireborn Cripshot 00:50, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  10. Tab said, and gets angry/raging or trolls in ratings. →J.J. berks (contrib) 11:35, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    do you know what trolling is...ive never trolled ratings once. -- Gringo TALK 16:37, 25 December 2008(EST)
  11. The extreme rudeness is one thing. Extreme elitism (without being elite) is another. Lying about stuff adds more to the mix. But his attitude toward discussion and other users is, simply put, completely unacceptable for a wiki environment. He uses the argument "I'm good, you're bad" at any circumstance where he can't explain something, and 0 toleration for other's opinions means a terrible, terrible build master. — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 11:41, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  12. I turned down my RfBM, even though I had overwhelming support, for two reasons - my style of arguing is basically "you're bad, shut up" and my style of voting sometimes abuses the rating system to get a build out of great. Neither of those are good qualities for build masters. Unfortunately, gringo is very similar - plus he's bad. There's no way I can see him being a build master and being even slightly diplomatic. -Auron 12:44, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    a build master doesn't have to be diplomatic; they have to know when and why a build sucks (like your shockwave rit), thats it. -- Gringo TALK 18:11, 25 December 2008(EST)
    And that attitude is why you're not a BM. — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M 13:11, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    lolk go post that on goldens page. and its true, i dont need to be your fanboy to get BM, or suck everyones dick. auron thinks im bad because i run dash instead of earth attune on e/a in HA (which i find hilarious). and ska you are just a troll that hardly contributes anything worthwhile these days, so saying that me being a dick is a reason to not be a BM is stupid. at least i help out. -- Gringo TALK 18:20, 25 December 2008(EST)
    Buildmasters don't have to be nice. They just need to be right. Someone can argue to the deepest depths of Hell and it won't matter if they're vote is removed. --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 22:16, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    When Golden gets a vote removed he doesn't go and freak out at people, insisting that he has the only right opinion and/or revoking the removal. He accepts what the majority of people (or elitists, at least) on the site would think because odds are the majority is correct unless they all play this game without a moniter. Unfortunately, the majority also feels that you're the type of person who WOULD freak out. Call it PvX communism, and you're Stalin. -- ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake hissssssssssss 22:25, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    lol The majority of pvxwiki is stupid as fuck. Asdfg 15:31, 2 January 2009 (EST)
  13. —ǘŋƐxɩsƫ 17:06, 2 January 2009 (EST)
  14. Who? --Anonimous. 12:02, 9 January 2009 (EST)
    Grudge vote :), but point made. KJ sig 2 11:12, 9 January 2009 12:05, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Neutral

  1. Meh, we'll see. Mr. Big 19px 17:20, 24 December 2008 (EST)
  2. Probably good at the game, but I haven't seen him play. Also a massive douche and refuses to listen to anyone other than himself (that can be a good thing though). ZefirsigGod Zefir 22:58, 24 December 2008 (EST)
    i dont listen to other people when im right..like on the A/W collapsing spike. and i was right in the end. -- Gringo TALK 14:42, 25 December 2008(EST)
    Telling me what I said here is wrong is not helping me vote for you... ZefirsigGod Zefir 10:32, 25 December 2008 (EST)
    im not gonna kiss your ass to get a vote, im not like that. -- Gringo TALK 15:41, 25 December 2008(EST)
  3. Hi. Misf8 /wave 12:42, 25 December 2008 (EST)
  4. Im beginning to think that gringo may be a pretty good BM. He has temper issues, but hes usually right and hes pretty badass about wrong votes. Staying in neutral. JebusJebussigchristmasMcMouseContests 12:26, 26 December 2008 (EST)
  5. I think Gringo is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns scrubs and doesn't afraid of anything. But he is an asshat. Neutral --Snakes on a wii sig Snakes on a Wii 13:57, 3 January 2009 (EST)
  6. I thought Saint /ragequitted or w/e the hell he did a while back. Saint/Gringo is a fine user, but I need more time to see that he's a decent at GW (I know he's good at HB, but I don't know about other pvp or pve). Nothing wrong with being an asshole and a BM (isn't it a requirement?), but I don't like quitters Karate Jesus 10:08, 4 January 2009 (EST)
    I think u r getting confused with smurf FrostrageFrosty po! 06:33, 7 January 2009 (EST)
    Saint asked to be given a 3-month, and was Tai sig Image 78 06:39, 7 January 2009
    asking for 3-month is close enough to ragequitting for me. KJ sig 2 11:12, 9 January 2009
  7. See my vote at 'Support', he's spend too much time lately trying to be good and too little time trying to be good imo ;o. Brandnew. 11:57, 9 January 2009 (EST)
too little time being good*? O_o ---Chaos- TheDentist 12:11, 9 January 2009 (EST)
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