PvXwiki:Wikia noticeboard

The Wikia Noticeboard

This is a place where issues that only a Wikia Staff member can sort out. These issues will usually pertain to coding problems, relating to our PvXCode, or even the wiki's numerous extensions and special pages.

Please remember that PvXWiki has it's own Admin Noticeboard, and if an issue can be solved by an admin, post the issue there and not here.

To post an issues, please add it to the bottom of the section which the issue belongs, give the issue a suitable heading (Using a level 3 heading (3 ='s either side of the heading) E.G. ===Special:RecentRatings=== if there's a problem with the Recent Ratings page). Underneath the heading, give a brief discription of what's wrong, and sign and date your issue with 4 ~'s.

Note that this is not a talk page and that the respective moderators of each section reserve the right to remove non-administrative comments without discussion.

General Coding issues

These issues are generally related to the Mediawiki software, and any extensions that are installed (please note hat PvXCode has it's own section below). See here for archived issues.

Rating Page Lock

We need a way to lock rating pages from additions and removals(Like a page protection). Also useful for archived builds, to keep the rating page unchanged. ~~     Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   16:53, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree, but also for deleted builds. — Balistic 22:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Some templates become invalid when downloaded

When the template code contains a "+", this "+" is html decoded to a " ", because + is the url escape characer for a space. So a link like "http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:DownloadTemplate?build=OQCjUqnLqSPY+iAAVYiYaYubybA&name=P/any%20Song%20of%20Purification%20Paragon" becomes "http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:DownloadTemplate?build=OQCjUqnLqSPY iAAVYiYaYubybA&name=P/any%20Song%20of%20Purification%20Paragon", which results in a template file with an invalid code. This could be a browser issue with Opera only, or a bug in the DownloadTemplate. See for an example: Build:P/any Song of Purification ParagonTHC4k 23:46, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Just c/p the code directly from the box. The DL button should be remeoved IMO. 23:57, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

It would be usefull to me to save a template with one click. Plus fixing the bug is dead simple ( urlencode the build string in the templates' link ). THC4k 11:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Recent Ratins

Would it be possible to add a talk page link and rate page link to the recent ratings page? Useful for those of us who patrol it and want to see the new vote instantly.----The Liger is looking for a HA guild 20:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

SSL/SOCKS and Ratings

Right now, users surfing the web via UltraSurf, and quite possibly other secure proxy networks, cannot view Ratings pages. When a Ratings page is served to a user behind UltraSurf, an error is thrown.

Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

Now, were this an isolated case, I wouldn't bring it up. It's along the same lines as browser compatability in a lot of aspects. However, Wikia, like many other information sites, is blocked by the Great Firewall of China, therefore automatically excluding any users from that region from participating in vetting or even viewing the ratings. Seeing as most, if not all, other pages are served correctly, this must have to do with an exception in how the ratings page is served.

···  16:41, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

PvXcode issues

Coding issues related to PvXcode. See also PvXwiki talk:PvXcode. See here for archived PvXCode issues.

Mouse-over Attribute descriptions

Would it be possible to have mousing over an attribute display the in-game description of that attribute? ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:48, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I agree with the idea, surely it could use the same wiki code or whatever as the ratings? When you hover over Innovation it gives you a description of it, surelt it could be done for attributes? /FrosTalk\ 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

I was thinking about that. It would be nice (especially when calculating things like Expertise and Critical Strikes). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:59, 11 June 2008 (EDT)

When you roll the mouse over Palm Strike in a build (with points in Critical Strikes) it does not show the relevant attributes (as if you had not pointed critical strikes in the build) Xiay 08:48, 28 January 2009 (EST)

Health Sacrifice

The fact that health sacrificed doesn't show up in the skill mouseover is kind of annoying. Is there any hope that it will be added? --CJNyfalt 17:35, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

I believe that that is GWshack's task, might be wrong though. Brandnew. 17:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

See here. Either gwshack is not up to date or <pvxbig> is not compatible. ~ ĐONT*SYSOP 19:27, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

It's a pvxcode problem. gwshack shows sacrifice costs as part of the skill cost now. ~ Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 19:37, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

Leadership glitch?

<pvxbig> [build prof=Para/War leadership=0+3]["Go for the Eyes!"][Watch Yourself!][Save Yourselves!][Save Yourselves! (Luxon)]["There's Nothing To Fear!"][/build] </pvxbig> Energy is shown for GftE and WY, but not SY. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) _{Cuz Steve said so...} ツ 16:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

i'm inclined to think that's more a GWBBcode thing than our end (could be wrong). PheNaxKian Sysop 16:38, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Probably some Kurzick rank thingy that doesnt show up in PvX bar that affects leadership. I is *Jebus*Enter my contests! 17:54, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

nope. same with luxon. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) _{Cuz Steve said so...} ツ 18:03, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

Doesn't work with TNTF, must be something to do with pve skills. Ojamo (>.<(O=(- -Q) 18:06, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

(EC)hmm it might be linked to the PvE rank. even if you put @3 it doesn't change anything (it doesn't even show what the duration should be). Just leave it a while, Hippo or GCard will see this eventually, amd if it's our code they'll fix it. If it's GWBBcode, i've left GCard a message asking him to update to the new version (with their being a new version) hopefully it's been fixed in that version. if not then just tough I guess =p, not much we can do. PheNaxKian Sysop 18:09, 8 October 2008 (EDT)

IIRC, leadership energy bonuses don't show up with energy-based shouts. But I could be wrong. – ツtalkツcontribs 13:42, 6 December 2008 (EST)

<pvxbig>[[theyre on fire@10]</pvxbig>

Its the energy cost is underlined like in the above link, while it isnt underlined in TNTF. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 13:46, 6 December 2008 (EST)

oic. – ツtalkツcontribs 15:35, 6 December 2008 (EST)

PvXbig links

More of a suggestion than anything. Basically when you use PvXbig without the build information (so you can get a mouseover description of a skill, like this: <pvxbig>[[glyph of lesser energy@0]</pvxbig>which is<pvxbig>[[glyph of lesser energy@0]</pvxbig>) it would be nice if when you clicked on it, it linked to the GWW article. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 13:32, 6 December 2008 (EST)

The "+" symbol in build templates

The "+" does not save in build templates. Instead, it just puts a space in the code, which invalidates it. I'll try to talk to TOR about it. Karate Jesus 20:42, 23 November 2009

Ups. ToraenTheJanitor 04:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Woah, this has been a problem since May? Did anyone actually try to talk to wikia about it? Karate Jesus 17:25, 24 November 2009

I literally just got a response from TOR on this. He seems to think he can fix it. I'll let you know what he says. Karate Jesus 17:47, 24 November 2009

This seems to have been fixed! Thanks TOR! This will make updating the build packs a bit less of a pain. Toraen-Gifts Plz 01:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

General message

(please move if this isn't the best place for this)

There have been a couple of requests for Checkuser rights recently. I know that admins have traditionally had checkuser rights on this wiki, but we would like to move PvX a little closer to the rest of the wikis on Wikia. There are 23 people here with checkuser rights... most wikis have none, and those that do have checkusers generally have just two. So I think it's fair to say that PvX Wiki has enough people with the right to do the job. If that changes in the future, then we would consider adding someone else, and certainly we could remove the right from anyone inactive. But it's not something that every admin needs, and enough people have the right already for all your checkuser needs. Thanks all -- sannse (talk) 02:11, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

That may be true, but what you need to know is that many of the users on that list are inactive. Currently, I'd say we have around 1-3 active users with checkuser. Although I understand your desire for us to be closer to other wikis on wikia, I am almost certain that we get more vandalism than over half those sites, a lot of which is from ex-users or users who are trying to sock. So, there is good reason for us to have checkuser privileges. KarateJesus 02:51, 15 December 2009

People do troll quite a lot here. Invincible Rogue 02:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I would recommend granting it to all our active admins (at the very least). We have a list of currently active (and inactive) admins here. Maybe some of the inactive admins could have their rights removed and the active admins added? Or something similar? KarateJesus 02:59, 15 December 2009

Or we could give it to people like Danny and I who make quality contributions to the site every day, and take it away from people who just use it for getting ip addresses for DDoSing (*cough* Big *cough*) —  03:10, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

"People do troll quite a lot here." See? Invincible Rogue 03:12, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

^. And Big doesn't have checkuser. Only 2 of our 4 active admins have checkuser. And our only "active" bcrat is inactive most of the time. KarateJesus 03:13, 15 December 2009

I see Auron around every day (on IRC), he just doesn't edit because there's little for him to do. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:16, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think checkuser is needed for an admin. I understand that it makes things easier but I would prefer to keep my privacy----X 12:32, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

So that you can log off and proxymaster like Life :> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:43, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

KJ has probably already explained to you that socking is a bannable offense on PvX due to biasedly voting on ones own builds, and, as he said, because we have many vandals. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 12:43, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Due to our vetting system socking is a way bigger problem on this wikia, then on most others. There for a lot of people with checkuser are needed over here, though I do agree 23 might be a little over the top. however, there has been no abuse of some kind, afaik so why the hell does it even matter this wikia has more checkusers then others?  Thomas So Dutch  13:11, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Some addicts need to checkuser people when RC is silent. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 13:13, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

KJ's option is probably the best one. Remove Checkuser from inactive admins and give it only to active ones. If we didn't have the Vetting system, it would be entirely unnecessary, but as it stands it is still required in some cases. Also, please don't give it to me or Thunda - doing so would accomplish nothing. ··· Danny Hates Snow 22:21, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm happy to remove it from inactive admins (given a list) and review whether there is a need for more than those that remain. I think some of the comments above reflect why we are generally cautious about too many people having this ability. For the sake of privacy, it should be used sparingly... so even with socking problems it doesn't need to be in the hands of every admin -- sannse (talk) 00:49, December 16, 2009 (UTC)