I've only just noticed this, but did we decide if we wanted to do a DDL option as well? (we could just upload it on rapid share/mega upload) ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 19:17, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- DDL? not sure what that means. =/ ··· Danny Does Drugs 15:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- direct download. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 16:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- up to you. I wouldn't care about seeing it as one. Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll be able to host an FTP myself, and Rapidshare/Megaupload have daily limits per IP address. Also, just so you all know, I'll have my spare computer sometime after July 11th. I don't have any time to get back to my mom's until then. Yay living in a shitty apartment 4 hours away! ··· Danny Does Drugs 16:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't seen and inherent problem with Megaupload/rapid share limiting the download per IP (given jsut about every user has a different IP obv.), not to mention if you look around you can find ways of getting around that. > July 11th is fine with me, we still need to actually make the Build packs (and there's still the monthly skill update for July which will occur (probably) July 9th so builds will change by then =p). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 16:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- It should come on the 2nd (first thursday), but then again, I would be suprised if it came out on the 16th or 23rd. --Frosty Mc Admin 17:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- typically if the first Thursday is near the start of the month (probably 1st to 3rd) then they release it the second Thursday instead. I believe Linsey has started doing the monthly maintenance now so we'll see =p (with aid from Izzy on last months). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 11:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
- It should come on the 2nd (first thursday), but then again, I would be suprised if it came out on the 16th or 23rd. --Frosty Mc Admin 17:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't seen and inherent problem with Megaupload/rapid share limiting the download per IP (given jsut about every user has a different IP obv.), not to mention if you look around you can find ways of getting around that. > July 11th is fine with me, we still need to actually make the Build packs (and there's still the monthly skill update for July which will occur (probably) July 9th so builds will change by then =p). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 16:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- up to you. I wouldn't care about seeing it as one. Problem is, I'm not sure if I'll be able to host an FTP myself, and Rapidshare/Megaupload have daily limits per IP address. Also, just so you all know, I'll have my spare computer sometime after July 11th. I don't have any time to get back to my mom's until then. Yay living in a shitty apartment 4 hours away! ··· Danny Does Drugs 16:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- direct download. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 16:01, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
are we done with the vetting restructure? if so, will get started on this when I can be assed to do so, which will probably be sometime this-next week. My Soles Are Bad 14:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- yeah. that should be fine. I'm just wondering how we're going to handle submissions. i'm also wondering about the download method - right now, i'd imagine either isohunt or mininova would work fine. ···
17:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- I was thinking we could save all the builds and name them properly, then go from there with making packs. we could make the "full" set available on here at first, which would make it simple for people to make packs according to whats needed. Since the real work is saving them all, that seems like the best way to encourage easy pack making as desired. My Soles Are Bad 17:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- wat. that didn't make sense. wtb rephrase. ··· 17:36, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- he said get C+P the templates and save them as a properly named .txt file. Then upload them onto the site and allow people to "create" their own packs. Unfortunately we have noway of enabling people to create their own packs on the wiki. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- well, we wouldn't need to name them, really. saving via the download link does it for you. as for the second point, that'd be nice, but yeah. no dice. ··· 19:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- Actually the download button doesn't always work iirc (or the templates don't save properly i'm not to sure on this point). As for the names, (ignoring the first point about downloading/saving it in the first place) the file is named after the page, unless otherwise told, so while you're alright with individual builds, pages with multiple builds (e.g. team builds) will all be called the same thing. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 20:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- well, we wouldn't need to name them, really. saving via the download link does it for you. as for the second point, that'd be nice, but yeah. no dice. ···
- he said get C+P the templates and save them as a properly named .txt file. Then upload them onto the site and allow people to "create" their own packs. Unfortunately we have noway of enabling people to create their own packs on the wiki. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- wat. that didn't make sense. wtb rephrase. ···
- I was thinking we could save all the builds and name them properly, then go from there with making packs. we could make the "full" set available on here at first, which would make it simple for people to make packs according to whats needed. Since the real work is saving them all, that seems like the best way to encourage easy pack making as desired. My Soles Are Bad 17:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
- The download button fails to actually create a loadable build in the game's system most of the time, so you need to copypasta the build into game, and save it in game in order for it load properly. Also, was thinking for team builds: you can use folders to organize builds by creating them out of game, so maybe put team builds in a folder, with each build named seperately? This is an old pack I had created before we did the vetting restructure, but it's an example of how I was thinking of saving things, simple enough and organized. My Soles Are Bad 00:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- I figure if we just organize by class in each area, then organize those by both area and class again (2 separate packs), then organize by PvP and PvE, it should be simple enough. Also, afaik, if you just copypaste into notepad and save as a .txt, it should load fine in Guild Wars. The only ones that will not work are Any/X builds because Guild Wars doesn't recognize an empty primary class. ···
17:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
- I figure if we just organize by class in each area, then organize those by both area and class again (2 separate packs), then organize by PvP and PvE, it should be simple enough. Also, afaik, if you just copypaste into notepad and save as a .txt, it should load fine in Guild Wars. The only ones that will not work are Any/X builds because Guild Wars doesn't recognize an empty primary class. ···
- The download button fails to actually create a loadable build in the game's system most of the time, so you need to copypasta the build into game, and save it in game in order for it load properly. Also, was thinking for team builds: you can use folders to organize builds by creating them out of game, so maybe put team builds in a folder, with each build named seperately? This is an old pack I had created before we did the vetting restructure, but it's an example of how I was thinking of saving things, simple enough and organized. My Soles Are Bad 00:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
Haha, some of this needs to be changed, because....well, we did it differently. (that is, if I'm reading the page correctly). Karate 
Jesus 21:09, 16 November 2009
- Yeah, I'm working on that :P. Definitely needs to be policy though. I'll get a news post up soon too. ToraenTheJanitor 21:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- We will need to link these in other places as well (to be more available). I'm thinking maybe main page, but definitely in their respective sections. Karate Jesus 21:45, 16 November 2009
- We will need to link these in other places as well (to be more available). I'm thinking maybe main page, but definitely in their respective sections. Karate
Ty all, this makes everything easier :> Novii 21:46, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
- I would like to thank you for thanking the participants of this project. Most of the time, any actual effort around this place is extremely rewardless. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:50, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ Karate Jesus 21:55, 16 November 2009
- Yay, this is awesome! makes downloading the templates worth it! thanks alot.74.197.234.150 16:35, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ Karate
A bit confused
Hey guys. I've been following the progress of these builds packs but I'm still a little confused as to what they will do. The main part I'm having trouble understanding is the bold part I'm going to highlight: "A Build Pack is simply a collection of Build template codes to be made available for download." What does that mean? Can't I just copy and paste the codes into GW already and do it like that? Or am I just terribly missing the point? Any help would be nice! --Angelus
18:03, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
- you can just C+P, but some people want to have say all the Good or Great builds in a given area (e.g. Farming). So instead of having to copy and paste a bajilion template codes into GW and save each one, we've made these packs which you just copy into your templates folder, so you have all said builds with only having to download a simple .zip file =). ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:05, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
- ah ok, and then they just appear in my little template thingy the next time i log onto guildwars? do i have a choice in what i name each build or no? --Angelus 18:09, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
- yeh that's the idea. As for naming you can rename them, but you have to do it manually (just find the template (the packs are fairly organised) and rename it to what you want). ~ PheNaxKian talk 18:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)
- ah ok, and then they just appear in my little template thingy the next time i log onto guildwars? do i have a choice in what i name each build or no? --Angelus
Keeping the Build Packs Updated
Ok, we're finally finished with the build packs. So, now we have to keep them updated (at least until we get Danny's server). How do we want to do this? Should it be a "PvXwiki" page for people to alert us to outdated build packs, or should it just be something that I try to get people to help out with? Karate Jesus 20:54, 22 November 2009
- An easily accessible page where to post the current build template. Mainbars aren't changed very much on the most important builds, so maybe you can get somewhat easily off. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:57, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- What? Karate Jesus 21:00, 22 November 2009
- In the end only the three-legged survive. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- Crazy Fins. I r confuzed nao. Karate Jesus 21:12, 22 November 2009
- Sanity is for the weak.
- Briefly: just make a page where you post the new template for outdated builds. I don't think people will necessarily update the page, though, but I really hate the idea of having to go through every single build once a month. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:14, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ that's the idea. But the question I'm asking is whether or not it should be an official PvX page or just a userspace page. Karate Jesus 21:24, 22 November 2009
- PvX namespace brings more attention. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ good point. Karate Jesus 21:28, 22 November 2009
- ^ good point. Karate
- PvX namespace brings more attention. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:25, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- ^ that's the idea. But the question I'm asking is whether or not it should be an official PvX page or just a userspace page. Karate
- Crazy Fins. I r confuzed nao. Karate
- In the end only the three-legged survive. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
- What? Karate
In what location do I have to save these files?
Is there a specific place where I have to save these files- thanks in advandce —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.109.216.186 (talk • contribs) 02:35, November 23, 2009 (UTC).
- My Computer/C/Program Files/Guild Wars/Templates/Skills Shazzydiddles 02:30, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- D: How can I find open this folder with vista ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.109.216.186 (talk • contribs) 02:57, November 23, 2009 (UTC).
- Um....I've never used Vista long enough to know it had a different filing system, so give it a sec and maybe someone knows :/ Karate Jesus 02:57, 23 November 2009
- Um....I've never used Vista long enough to know it had a different filing system, so give it a sec and maybe someone knows :/ Karate
- ) Thanks got it
don't know if it's just me
but I downloaded the Hero build packs, put them in the right place.. I got alot of "this Template's template code does not appear to be valid" That Unknown guy 13:08, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- It's a problem with a lot of PvX builds lol. take out the forward dashes I think. Might not be right...But take out stuff that doesn't fit in. ----~Short~ 13:15, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- May be a problem with builds with PvP skills in, in which case, we know about it. - AthrunFeya 13:45, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- He said Hero builds. As far as I know, no PvP skills in them. ----~Short~ 13:49, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- All I can think is.... wrong profession? :p - AthrunFeya 13:51, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- if you could provide us with the name of the build it might help =p. Without knowing what the build is specifically, I will mention that I recall there being a problem with template codes being generated incorrectly if they have multiple optional slots or some such thing :/, though I don't know if that's (still) an issue. ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:30, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- I've Isolated the issue: any build that has a plus symbol ("+"), has it replaced with a space character, which causes the code to be invalid. Here's to hoping it's a simple thing to fix --Tblade2001 16:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- It is. I'll go through the hero section and fix it today. Karate Jesus 17:44, 23 November 2009
- I probably should have clarified that I meant any build, as in all builds in all sections. I haven't tested it thoroughly, but I know the same issue exists in the General PvE builds. I presume since the issue isn't localised to one area, that it's most probably universal to the process to originally create them. --Tblade2001 12:20, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
- They were compiled by going to each build page and hitting download -> save on the templates. I made sure to fix any build templates that had spaces by putting the +'s in that I worked on. I thought everyone knew about that bug, so I didn't think to tell anyone else to do the same :( ToraenTheJanitor 15:26, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- They were compiled by going to each build page and hitting download -> save on the templates. I made sure to fix any build templates that had spaces by putting the +'s in that I worked on. I thought everyone knew about that bug, so I didn't think to tell anyone else to do the same :( ToraenTheJanitor
- I probably should have clarified that I meant any build, as in all builds in all sections. I haven't tested it thoroughly, but I know the same issue exists in the General PvE builds. I presume since the issue isn't localised to one area, that it's most probably universal to the process to originally create them. --Tblade2001 12:20, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
- It is. I'll go through the hero section and fix it today. Karate
- I've Isolated the issue: any build that has a plus symbol ("+"), has it replaced with a space character, which causes the code to be invalid. Here's to hoping it's a simple thing to fix --Tblade2001 16:33, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- if you could provide us with the name of the build it might help =p. Without knowing what the build is specifically, I will mention that I recall there being a problem with template codes being generated incorrectly if they have multiple optional slots or some such thing :/, though I don't know if that's (still) an issue. ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:30, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- All I can think is.... wrong profession? :p - AthrunFeya
- He said Hero builds. As far as I know, no PvP skills in them. ----~Short~ 13:49, November 23, 2009 (UTC)
- May be a problem with builds with PvP skills in, in which case, we know about it. - AthrunFeya
Drinks and 4chan?
Do I get a free drink if I buy the pvp packs?
- No, but if you plan on paying for them, then make your check or credit card payment payable to Karate Jesus ;D. Btw, I fixed the hero section. Karate Jesus 21:08, 23 November 2009
- Actually, if you contact me via MSN, I can provide you with the Premium Diamond PvP Build Packs for a fair price. dannyderanged@hotmail.com :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:22, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
PvX will merging with 4cahn in the near future, in order to view builds you'll need to purchase a PvXPlatinum account--TahiriVeila 21:36, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
Update
Ok, Danny and I just talked and here's what we're thinking. The only real reason we were going to use his server (at least that I can think of) was for accessibility and so the packs could be updated more frequently with a bot....
Well, personally I think .zips are much more accessible to the community that uses our site than torrents are (as they can be directly extracted to the skill template folder and work). And currently we have a site that allows us to use .zips with no real drawbacks, except for the fact that we have to manually update the files.
However, Danny thinks he could write a Python script or an executable file that would be capable of downloading the builds for us (of course, it would have to be "started" manually). This bot may not be able to update box.net; however, it would give us the ability to just run the bot and then upload the files ourselves. Writing the bot would probably take Danny a few weeks.
What do you guys think? Good or bad idea? Karate Jesus 22:03, 7 December 2009
- That sounds good. Just make sure that the script accounts for the "+ = space" bug in the templates when downloaded. ToraenTheJanitor 01:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Because the script would basically build the files from scratch, I can include any regex or string subs needed, so that won't be an issue. I didn't get a chance to write up any pseudocode last night, but I should have time later tonight to get started and let you guys see what I'm planning. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:49, December 8, 2009 (UTC)
- Made a new download of packs yesterday and "+ = space" bug is still in hordes of places in the packs. Seems like about 4:1 work. :( ---shmEk (talk) 14:29, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
- 4/1 sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. It should only be in every 1/15ish. However, we're working on a bot that will help us keep these builds updated and once we have it, we'll work out the bugs with the + signs. Karate Jesus 16:17, 19 February 2010
- I can't remember how danny intends to program the script, but I think it wa jsut "there's a template code ---> write to file ----> save ---> next build". If it's like that then it shouldn't have any problem with the whole + thing. ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:28, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Pretty much, that's what the script's looking like right now. I had to spend an hour and a half last night figuring out how to access pages directly without getting 301's thrown at me. ··· Danny So Cute 18:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- I can't remember how danny intends to program the script, but I think it wa jsut "there's a template code ---> write to file ----> save ---> next build". If it's like that then it shouldn't have any problem with the whole + thing. ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:28, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
- 4/1 sounds like a bit of an exaggeration. It should only be in every 1/15ish. However, we're working on a bot that will help us keep these builds updated and once we have it, we'll work out the bugs with the + signs. Karate
- Made a new download of packs yesterday and "+ = space" bug is still in hordes of places in the packs. Seems like about 4:1 work. :( ---shmEk (talk) 14:29, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
- Because the script would basically build the files from scratch, I can include any regex or string subs needed, so that won't be an issue. I didn't get a chance to write up any pseudocode last night, but I should have time later tonight to get started and let you guys see what I'm planning. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:49, December 8, 2009 (UTC)