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The Norn Fighting Tournament Builds

Where can I chack PvE builds for "The Norn Fighting Tournament"? There is some category?

79.180.144.192 13:42, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

There are some builds in the PvE section. There isn't a special section, but if I recall they're Farming builds. ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ 13:43, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

You can use the search function and look for "norn" and "tournament", too. - PANIC!

sexiness! 13:56, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

trolling LOL AT U 18:45, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Skills reverted

Notice can be removed. ~ ĐONT *TALK 16:20, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Woo. Time to go gay around on a critscythe. ): --71.229 16:21, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Thats what ive been waiting for =DShure 17:11, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Sacrifice Skills

On some of the skills it says in description that you do sacrifice x% of life when in this situation. There is no blooddrop on the skill pop up, but when you click on the skill and go to the wiki, its there. any ideas how to fix? Riff 11:46, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Not our fault, its gwbbcodes fault. ~~ Frvwfr2 talk contribs admin 11:50, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

basically we can't do anything? Riff 12:18, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Nope. ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ 12:19, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

Ghetto Riff 12:25, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

I;m sure i read somewhere that GC was making a database of skills though, so we wouldn't have to rely on GWbbcodes, so maybe when (if) that's finished, it will be fixed =). ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

10:46, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

It's been "close" (whatever that means) to being finished for quite a while now, but I'm not sure how much time Cardinal/Hhhippo have to devote to this stuff, so I'm not sure when it'll be finished.

*Defiant Elements* +talk 17:28, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

HB

Under PvP builds, the section "hero's battles" doesn't point to the relevant guide portal. This would obv. require an admin to sort... ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 13:38, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

~~ Frvwfr2 talk contribs admin 15:00, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

I refrained from adding it because, as of right now, the portal copypasta from guildwiki without attribution. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 17:25, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Farming Builds

People always askh, "Where are the builds that farm _ _ _ _ _ I don't see any?" Well, i'd gladly sort the farming builds into certain locations. OK?--FireTock 23:03, 7 May 2008 (EDT)

There are a lot of locations. It would better if we'd set some criteria, like "is the build able to farm foes with: enchantment removal, interrupt, degen, life stealing, block, etc." Still, it would be hard to implent. ~ ĐONT *TALK 00:58, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Well know most farming builds have some sort of section devoted to what's farm able with the build...~PheNaxKian (T/c)

14:29, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

The best way to do this will probably be to have a good naming policy for farming builds. It should include area or something like "mob farmer" and the method of farming. As most builds have a good name, the people who complain are just stupid. ---

Ressmonkey (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

How can i move a build from my user page to testing builds(btw its a pve farm build)My Name Is Fuz 20:47, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

If you're talking about this build, then all you need to do is add {{Untested-Testing|farming}} to the top. BUT if you'd like to get input from other users on it, use {{Untested-Trial|farming}} instead. The "Testing" one means it's open for people to rate it, while "Trial" means that the author would like some input. See this for more details. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:09, 15 May 2008 (EDT)

Naming

Personally i think the Build: in front of a build name a 'sight for sore eyes' as Vizier Khilbron would say. I say dump it altogether, but then again that's just my opinion. Corpse talk 12:11, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

It has to be there. Wikis work by "www.blah.blarg/Wiki/Namespace:Article name" (namespace being the Build bit) i can't explain why but it's needed.~PheNaxKian (T/c)

13:40, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Technically, there is a main namespace without a prefix. However, we need build pages to have their own namespace. For example, the engine has to know which pages can be rated, which pages to pick a 'Random Build' from and so on. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:24, 18 May 2008 (EDT)

Fair enough. Corpse talk 03:47, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

Red links

Should red links be removed or leave them alone? Or is it namespace-specific, like only remove from builds or build discussions but not from user talks? ~ ĐONT *TALK 14:11, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

If they're supposed to go somewhere meanigfull (e.g. a sub page, or another build) i'd suggest leave it/change it so it's right, if it's jsut a load of crap get rid of it...~PheNaxKian (T/c)

14:55, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

If it's a link to an old name of a build that was moved, change it to point to the right place. If the build was just deleted, you can use {{DeletedLink|Build:Test}} or {{DeletedLink|Build:Test|Blah}} which shows up like this: [[Build:Test]] or [[Blah]] and links to the deletion log if the page doesn't exist and is just a normal link if the page does exist. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 15:36, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Lol lol shadow form

been like 50 new builds in the past 5 minutes Antiarchangel TROLL 20:05, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

BM's

can give votes a 6-6-6, KILL THEM ALL!!! (they can do it with a 3-3-3) ANYONE WHO VOTES A 6-6-6 MUST DIE!!!--Fire Tock^{'s Button leads to Gwiki.} 23:32, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Next time you think of random shit like this, put it on your talk page... Here, it's pretty close to trolling. :/ -- Armond Warblade

{{sysop}} 23:52, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

And it's wrong anyways. It's as if two people voting 3-3-3, not one person voting 6-6-6.і†оκαҐυ 00:08, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Guides

I realise they're linked to on the front page, but is there not anyway perhaps to make them more....Noticed? They need work and it seems all work has stopped....(i'm about to go do some work on the BiP Guide), so perhaps have like a site notice or something asking to Improve Guides section Maybe? ~PheNaxKian (T/c) 17:27, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and another thing about guides. Too many perma shadow builds, can i make a guide for that, and another one that's bugging me is the Assassin/Fighter Proffesion Critical Strikes non daggers build. can i makea guide for those?--Fire

Tock^{'s Button leads to Gwiki.} 11:16, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

You can make a guide for whatever you want, if it's crap the community will decided that it should be deleted, simple. Bu i think some sort of Perma shadow form guide should be made (i'd put it under PvE guides rather than general). ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

11:19, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

Templates + sign

I noticed that template variables cannot handle ~~~ or ~~~~, only ~~~~~ which is the timestamp. Is it default for wikies or is it possible to make it accept signatures somehow? ~ ĐONT *TALK 14:01, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

They do handle ~~~ and the others. Actually, the ~~~'s are expanded already when saving the page, while the template is called later when viewing the page. However, there seems to be a problem if there's a "=" passed to the template (which your sig contains). I'm not sure if there's a way around that. – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 17:44, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

I see. I already figured the converting thing, just seemed weird that it won't work with the sig. ~ ĐONT *TALK 18:19, 27 May 2008 (EDT)

1v1 builds?

shouldnt there be some of those? Tnvols19 10:55, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Guild Wars is not designed for 1v1. If you mean Hero Battles, you can find them here. ~ ĐONT *TALK 10:58, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

1v1 builds would be pointless to retain. Assuming equal skills between two players and that they don't know what the other person will be using, then it's pretty much just a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors regardless of what build you decide to take. Hero Battles can be found by following Dont's link. - PANIC!

sexiness! 11:00, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

the entire world of PVP is rock paper scissors... --Bim (talk|contribs) 21:12, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

MLow4life 23:05, 31 May 2008 (EDT) what a bunch of newbs....:)

Says the person who signed in front of their comment. Lord Belar 23:47, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

і†оκαҐυ 23:50, 31 May 2008 (EDT) Lolcanopwnt.

1v1 is the ultimate form of showing honor and skill. I support the initiative for a 1v1 section. — Skakid 23:51, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

On the other hand

"ohaidere, luuk! i brot blind n ur a warrier! =D /win"

Anyone can tailor a build to suit the class that they're playing against.і†оκαҐυ 23:57, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Counter-counter them, and bring Sight Beyond Sight. — Skakid 00:00, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Run burning arrow, cripshot, or magebane. Those builds beat all others in 1v1--Goldenstar 00:01, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

You can't always counter-counter stuff.і†оκαҐυ 00:06, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Then you're bad at 1v1 — Skakid 00:07, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

run a 55, gg Antiarchangel

TROLL 00:10, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

If I'm fighting a monk, I'm going to bring enchantment removal.і†оκαҐυ 00:12, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Or bring a magebane, and interrupt their condition removal/big heals--Goldenstar 00:14, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Not everyone can rupt 3/4 cast spells. Not everyone has the reactions for it, fewer have the ping for it, and even fewer have both.і†оκαҐυ 00:19, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Do it on instinct. — Rapta

(talk|contribs) 00:23, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Cast canceling ftw?і†оκαҐυ 00:24, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

When they're not interrupting on reflex? — Rapta

(talk|contribs) 00:28, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Oh. Misread. Well not everyone has the instict for it, either.і†оκαҐυ 00:31, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Sabway

is the only actual build for PvE that is a full hero build. So, I was playing on non used charracters who don't have every hero and i was looking on pvx for a substitute, there's none, so what i'm trying to say is... someone please make more full hero builds that are great in pve instead of just Sabway.--Phail Tock^{A guide to this user.} 00:35, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

The Para build works great too. ~~ Frvwfr2 talk contribs admin 07:24, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

you're free to come up with a build yourself and post it. aren't wikis great? 68.54.150.61 03:18, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

How to archive.

Can someone tell me how I can archive my Talk Pages? Nature 11:23, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Cut and paste all content from your talkpage to User_talk:yourname/Archive x where yourname is your name (obviously) and x is the number of the archives (starting from 1). So for you, it should be User_talk:Nature Loves Me/Archive 2. When finished, put link(s) on your (now empty) talk page that redirects to the archive(s). ~ ĐONT *TALK 11:35, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks! ^^

Nature 11:42, 5 June 2008 (EDT)

Alternate Skills

I propose that there be a list of alternate skills for the elite skills. Maybe, if possible, the builds would show the alternate skill that could replace the elite skill, in the case that the player does not have that skill yet.--Banditda 14:18, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Would be in the variants section of the build, but since the elite usually defines a build, elite skills are rarely variants. ---

Ressmonkey (talk) 15:11, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

Featured Builds

Could anyone Edit them or is there some sort of advanced procedure. Just making sure ^^ Nature 07:58, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

free to edit, but generaly if you replacing an untested build, make sure it's been vetted. If it's a testing build, make sure you put the build your replacing on the past featured build page. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

10:27, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

asdk;fjl

this page has seriously been the bane of guild wars in general. i hope you all burn. i'm going to email your sponsor and beg them to please not sponsor this site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.215.208.125 (contribs) .

What did the Main Page ever do to you? D: --71.229 07:35, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

protip: they don't give a shit. –Ichigo724

11:42, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

Wiki Code

Where can you learn them? O.o and see the variables and such things :X -- Nature 17:01, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Best way to learn is to steal other people's code and tweak it to try to figure it out, imo. But you can also check out Metawiki's Editing Guide ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 23:50, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Dervish builds in UW

How about testing all 6 UW dervish builds to find the one thats superior to all other 5 and then WELL the rest? --Arthas Talk 10:16, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

If you feel that any of them should be merged with another then post it on the talk page. If they use different skills and have different usages then they should remain separate builds, though. - PANIC!

sexiness! 10:21, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Update skills

Still seeing skills as they were pre soul bind change... is it me or is the site not updated --Bim (talk|contribs) 11:25, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

They're not updated. GWShack does the updating I believe. - PANIC!

sexiness! 11:29, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

^ From admin noticeboard: Please do not leave posts about skills not being up to date, we don't change the descriptions. Godbox

11:30, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

yeh that's from AN under PVX code problems or w/e. I've said this many tieme (though i still don't know the progress on it) that GC said he would make a database for skills, that would be maintained by the community (in otherwords we'd update instead of GWshack), though i still can't find the post =s. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

10:51, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

PvXwiki:News/20071221 ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 16:53, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Why not link to Guild Wiki (The Un-"official" one)? Their site has constant updates on everything and pwnage discussion pages --

Bim (talk|contribs) 18:47, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

We aren't talking about links. We are talking about mouse over skill info. ~~ Frvwfr2 talk contribs admin 19:08, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Theoretically, we could parse all skill info from guildwiki's skill info pages, but that would in effect be stealing wikia's bandwidth, since every time anyone loads a build page here, we'd have to load eight guildwiki pages. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:36, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

New skills category

I know that there is a "featured" build section, but what about new, tested builds? Is there already a category for that? Fruit of boredom 11:33, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

If you mean something like recently vetted builds, there is no such thing. The solution would be sorting builds by date which is not possible afaik. ~ ĐONT *TALK 11:57, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Innovation

Is it worthless now? --- Ressmonkey (talk) 12:08, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

it's weightless. As for worthless that's your perception. But hippoh is working on changing it to a check box, he's just waiting on the test server. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

12:15, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Checkbox = worthless. ---

Ressmonkey (talk) 12:16, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

like i sai, your own perception, if by worthless you mean doesn't effect the score then yes, if you mean worthless as in innovation is completely worthless then not necessarily. Perception. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

12:17, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

I doubt people will care about a checkbox, thats all Im saying. ---

Ressmonkey (talk) 12:21, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

the point is, people can better use a checkbox, they can say this is innovative-check the boix. This isn't leave it unchecked. Where as currently you have to think how innovative something is, so instead of just yes/no you have to say it's around "there", and the point is we want to encourage people to be innovative, so the idea as that when we introduced the check box, we'd also introduce a new "innovative builds" section. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

14:09, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

but people still would not understand what "Innovative" means to PVX. thus mass confusion. ~

Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 16:52, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

in this case it would hvae it's literal meaning of how innovative a build is, how new/clever is something, instead of how meta is it. ~PheNaxKian (T/c)

17:09, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

Good. ~

Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 17:13, 28 June 2008 (EDT)

I know what innovative means to pvxwiki, there's a whole list of it--Fire File:Mudkip.png Tock^{herd yuo liek mudkipz.} 12:39, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

incorrect. ~

Zamanee(point out my idiocy) 15:10, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

I WIN!

FOR GREATEST SIG OF ALL TIME!!!--Fire File:Mudkip.png Tock^{herd yuo liek mudkipz.} 12:37, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

i can barley read the Fire Tock part.....~PheNaxKian (T/c)

13:31, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Add builds

how do i add builds?Saintsfan 20:05, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

See PvXwiki:Style and formatting. –Ichigo724

20:10, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

don't add builds. if it's good, they will nerf it. if it's anything different from what they've seen before, they'll insult you, and if you insult back, they'll ban you.

Multiple Builds in one Article

Would it be Ok if I put 3 Builds in one Article? Basically variants just has a full explanation, skill bars, usage and such? Have a Build testing atm and would like to do that so I can get feedback on the variants I want of it without making 3 use pages, when all discussion is over... if any of the variants are unfavored they are removed, if they are, then they stay. I really don't wanna make three articles when they are based around the same theory, just want to get all info on one talk page :( Please say yes :X -- Nature 10:15, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Make one main bar and post the possible variants on the build's discussion page. People will tell you if they are better. ~ ĐONT *SYSOP 10:25, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Alright ty ^^ --

Nature 10:29, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

Best assassin farming build?

Is there a best assassin build for farming a lot of different places, and bosses? Sorry for the noob question, I only got this game a week ago. Agnusmaximus 10:07, 11 July 2008

Try these. ~ ĐONT *SYSOP 13:17, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Oh ok cool. But is there like a best build for assassin for making money? Cause all these builds are all really good, but which one is the best? Or is it all just on opinion, and ways. Agnusmaximus 6:03, 11 July 2008

Probably the UW solo one, even with ecto prices in the shithole. --71.229 21:06, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Alright thanks Agnusmaximus 6:08, 11 July 2008

Ecto price is only halfway into the shithole. The farm builds are the other halfway into the shithole. --84.24.206.123 21:28, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Well then what is the best profession for farming, and the best build in Guild Wars? I've seen the elementalist ones, and reading their discussions, there is a lot of criticism. Isn't there some build that can farm almost anywhere, effectively? Agnusmaximus 9:42 12 July 2008(EDT)

No, which is the beauty of it. If there was one, then everyone would have that build. Since specific builds/professions are for specific areas, Anet makes people use different tactics to farm. It would get boring if you only played one thing to get everything. Bluemilkman/Talk To Me 13:21, 12 July 2008 (EDT)

Alright thanks. Agnusmaximus 10:31, 12 July 2008(EDT)

WTF?

SHADOW FORM ISNT NERFED!!!! ITS A A/E JEEZ JST PUT IN INTENSITY!!! WTH, ARE YOU IDIOTS?--Fire File:Mudkip.png Tock^{herd yuo liek mudkipz.} 11:30, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

no u. Why the hell are you posting this here? ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ 11:30, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

umm, cause all of teh perma shadow builds are being deleted.--Fire File:Mudkip.png Tock^{herd yuo liek mudkipz.} 11:31, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Well, then do this on their talk pages. ɟoʇuɐʌ ʎʞɔıɹ 11:33, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

why? i believe this is the talk page of a website for builds on Guild Wars and Perma Shadow Form is one of them... SO SUCK IT!!!--Fire File:Mudkip.png Tock^{herd yuo liek mudkipz.} 18:22, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Intensity can't be maintained indefinitely and doesn't provide the 100% damage boost that would be needed to offset the half damage of shadow form. And it takes up a skill slot. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(sysop) 21:12, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

IW

i know it isnt popular anymore, IW i mean, but remember the pve only build with IW, it was Me/W and had a Me/R variant? was it deleted, cause i cant find it any more.--Phail Tock^{A guide to this user.} 21:19, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

It was IW/a visage/Deflect Arrows/Distortion/Healing Signet/Riposte/Illusion of Haste?Sprint?Iforget/Res Sig —ǥrɩɳsɧƴ ɖɩđđɭɘş

21:35, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

No... The one hes probably talking about is not the archived one, but rather a one that was trashed. It used IW, Dwarven Stability, and Flurry/5 energy beast mastery IAS (forget name but end on attack skill). Trashed a while ago so deleted by grace period expired probably. ---

Ressmonkey (talk) 22:57, 19 July 2008 (EDT)

competitive missions... not so competitive...

why do peopel keep making buidls for competitive missions? absolutley no-one does jade quarry adn very very few people do fort aspenwood. what is the point?Klomi 23:18, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

new subject

this website sucks.

everyone knows it takes away from the value and fun of an otherwise good game.

the pre-made builds were good enough. go back to that.

have respect for the players and the game in general: delete this website.

guildwiki was right to delete their builds section.

do developpers watch what people post to decide what to nerf? that is so lame.

this website is the bane of guild wars.

i hope the structure of gw2 is such that this website becomes obsolete.

the only good aspect of this site is for pve, because the pve in guild wars sucks, and is boring; too repetitive, so instead of wasting time figuring out what works you can just look it up, but...

...but pvp is fun. pvp is competitive. and i'm not gonna explain it to a bunch of people who steal builds and copy and paste builds off of a website because you don't know what pvp is all about; what the fun is, the excitement.

you shouldn't even be able to see what skills other people use.

NCSoft fails.

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 how do i add builds?[[User:Saintsfan|Saintsfan]] 20:05, 4 July 2008 (EDT)
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 == Multiple Builds in one Article ==