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::Ah, thanks so much Poke. I'll pass this information on. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">23:51, 28 November 2009 </font>]]
 
::Ah, thanks so much Poke. I'll pass this information on. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">23:51, 28 November 2009 </font>]]
   
 
== [http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Da%C3%B1%C3%B1y#Get_Danny_Hammered_for_a_Good_Cause.21 This is spam] ==
== To all you sig pros ==
 
   
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But fuck it. Check out the link if you've got a few free dollars and want to see pictures of me getting shitfaced (or more than shitfaced) in about 16 hours.
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:It helps if you sign. --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|talk]]) </font></span>'''-- 11:45, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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Love,
== Codex Arena ==
 
   
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-- [[User:Daññy|Danny is not]]&nbsp;<staff></staff> 08:47, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
Will there come a section for Codex Arena builds? or you just improvise yourself ? :p
 
Thanks!
 
:Hi, I'm sorry to inform you that there is no section for CA and with good reason. Since the skills and builds change daily, there would be no way to keep up with each day's trend w/o many more active users. However, there are [[User:Chaos Messenger|some users]] who have sandboxes that update CA builds every once in a while. Sandboxes are linked at the bottom of the main page, and are currently the best way we can provide CA builds. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">17:49, 11 December 2009 </font>]]
 
:: :P I haven't updated the CA page for a while, it's quite much trouble D: It died when GWW stopped updating them so I could work on the builds in school. --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="darkgreen">-Chaos]][[User_talk:Chaos|<font color="darkred">Clause -]] [[File:ChaosSoXmas.jpg|16px]] </font></font>'''</span> 20:27, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
   
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== Did somebody rage PvX Wiki and Trash it? ==
== PvP skills (again) ==
 
{{quote|Oh, and have you considered doing anything else with the PvP skills? Or are we just giving up on that? - KJ|color = maroon|old = y}}
 
:{{quote|Definitely not. The PvP fixes will be live tomorrow (Monday) evening UTC. Planned to do it over the weekend initially, but didn't manage to. - TOR|color = darkblue}}
 
   
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All mini skill bars are 4 frenzy 4 healing signet and a giant pokemon is on pages [[User:Extreme zer0|<sub><font color="cyan" size="1px">EX</font></sub><font color="black" size="2px">tREME_</font><sup><font color="purple" size="1px">zer0</font></sup>]] 14:22, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
So, expect that tomorrow. Also, he plans on moving our skill db to our site sometime soon. Only admins will be able to edit it and the updates can't go live until TOR syncs our db to his, but it should help us get more accurate skill updates (hopefully). [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">03:18, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
:Oh, and I'm still working on allowing all users to have suppress redirect privileges. I have no idea how much longer that may take. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">03:19, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::Time it for today and I require no other present from you :> --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|talk]]) </font></span>'''-- 09:11, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::thanks for the update, I was curious about this =p (someone actually asked me about it on MSN). On a related note, supressredirect isn't that hard to give to people it's literally one small line in one file. Just ask it to be added to the autoconfirmed user group privileges (so anyone who's in the "autoconfirmed" group can suppress redirects). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 11:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::I have. Tbh, I've asked for it three times and each time I've gotten a really strange answer that didn't seem to address my request at all. I'll try again, though. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">16:48, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
:::::They need to add:
 
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$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['suppressredirect'] = true;
 
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:::::to "LocalSettings.php". <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 17:04, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::Are they really moving all of the skills database to this site? That would be great. I've been quite annoyed with the broken skills lately. &mdash;&nbsp;''<span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:palatino linotype, palatino, ms serif, serif;">[[User:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkred;">&nbsp;Biggles</span>]][[User_talk:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkgreen;">&nbsp;Jollyfist</span>]]</span>'' [[Image:Big christmas bells.gif|19px]] 19:20, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::According to TOR, yes. But he didn't really give me a time on it. He just said "soon". But, like I said, he would have to sync with it before it would work. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:25, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
:::::::{{ec}}If I understood KJ right, it's just a copy of the DB. Basically we keep that up to date and every so often they sync it with the actual database. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 19:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::Heh, wouldn't it be better if they were to copy from our database, seeing that we're the ones who (somewhat) play Guild Wars? &mdash;&nbsp;''<span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:palatino linotype, palatino, ms serif, serif;">[[User:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkred;">&nbsp;Biggles</span>]][[User_talk:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkgreen;">&nbsp;Jollyfist</span>]]</span>'' [[Image:Big christmas bells.gif|19px]] 19:29, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::::If I'm understanding you right, yes that's what they'll do. TOR will just copy our database (when it's been updated) and sync it to his db. I'm assuming the reason we can't just edit our db and then it update our site has something to do with server side stuff. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">19:40, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::::::::::you totally understood me lol. Now...about the block issues. Why are we having trouble unblocking IPs? And how come I can't unblock a particular number like Thunda's last ban? &mdash;&nbsp;''<span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:palatino linotype, palatino, ms serif, serif;">[[User:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkred;">&nbsp;Biggles</span>]][[User_talk:Bigtymerxg4|<span style="color:#FFF;font-weight:100;background-color:darkgreen;">&nbsp;Jollyfist</span>]]</span>'' [[Image:Big christmas bells.gif|19px]] 20:02, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::::::I don't think any other admin (except you) is having that problem. Tbh, it might be a good idea for you to email wikia (click contact us on their main site). They have to reply w/in so many hours. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:25, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::::::::::::if they do not, then something terrible will happen. perhaps the punishment is jimbo wales assraping the employee responsible. &mdash; [[User:Mafaraxas|Maf so rational.]] 20:58, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
===Update===
 
{{quote|OK... Good news and bad news:}}
 
 
{{quote|Bad -- it appears that not all PvP skills are on the list with IDs. I started to renumber them but having an incomplete list is somewhat beside the point, right?}}
 
 
{{quote|Good -- [http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User:TOR/gwbbcode] -- I'm watching these pages, so I will be notified on any changes. The plan is to have this updated weekly, although I can only do one update in December (if at all), due to code freeze for the holidays. - TOR}}
 
:I told him not to worry about it until after the holidays. Sorry about this guys. I did my best. Does anyone know where we can find a complete list of the IDs? [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:25, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::look further up the page, i linked to it, and then shortly after poke came along =). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:14, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
== SUPPRESS REDIRECT ==
 
 
DADDY, YES! --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-©#@o$-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|talk]]) </font></span>'''-- 20:33, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:YAAAAAAY! [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 20:35, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::Congrats guys ;D. Go thank Uberfuzzy. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:35, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
 
:what is supress redirect --[[File:Xmassigangelus.jpg|75px]] 20:39, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::When you guys move pages, and there's that little link left there? or when you see me move a page, then delete the link left behind. {{User:Bigtymerxg4/Sig}} [[Image:Big christmas bells.gif|19px]] 20:50, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::so we can delete the link ourselves or something. I don't see why everyone wants to make love to this supress redirect shit --[[File:Xmassigangelus.jpg|75px]] 20:54, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::Read the news page I made. It actually cuts down on a lot of shit. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:57, 14 December 2009 </font>]]
 
 
== meta builds ==
 
 
can we have a link on the main page somewhere? I always have to hunt around for that page. - [[Image:Porororroro lau.gif]]<small>[[User:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">Athrun</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">'''Feya'''</font>]]</small> - 13:00, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
:[[PvXwiki:Meta|This meta]] page? <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 20:13, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
::The actual PvE/PvP metagame ones, I meant. - [[Image:Porororroro lau.gif]]<small>[[User:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">Athrun</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">'''Feya'''</font>]]</small> - 20:18, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::The category. --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|moo]]) </font></span>'''-- 20:21, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::I'm sure I've said this before, for something different (though similar), we have an editcopy of the mainpage for a reason =p. If you want a link feel free to suggest it on the main page editcopy, Admins (or at least i do) have it on their watch list and will see any changes. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 20:38, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::^ like Phen said, just add it to the editcopy and if one of us like it, then we'll change it. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">03:38, 20 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::::::i would but cant be arsed to play around atm. - [[Image:Porororroro lau.gif]]<small>[[User:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">Athrun</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font color="Black">'''Feya'''</font>]]</small> - 03:52, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::I added the meta builds section under miscellaneous on the edit copy if that's ok :/ --[[User:Wingsy|Wingsy]] 11:11, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::That's what it's there for, adding/removing stuff, and then discussing it so we can improve the main page =). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 11:42, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::::I would love this. I hope it gets added sometime in the future. - [[User:Decollete|Decollete]] 12:01, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::::::::Personally, I don't like how it looks right now. I'll mess with it later. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="crimson" face="trajan pro">'''Karate'''</font>]][[File:Candy!.png]][[User talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="darkgreen" face="trajan pro">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">14:29, 20 December 2009 </font>]]
 
 
== WTB ==
 
some new original builds that work. 1 billion USD ea.--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 02:14, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
:Blue, I always appreciate your zeal for builds and this site, but the Main Page's talk is not the place to request this. I would recommend starting a sandbox or looking at GWGuru or something. This site's main focus is storing the '''best''' builds out there, which unfortunately in a dull, unchanging meta means that there's not much going on. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:21, 29 December 2009 </font>]]
 
:You are talking about a dead game. No. <span style="cursor:help;font:100 9pt 'times new roman';">'''···'''&nbsp;''[[User_talk:Daññy|<span style="color: #66AA77;">Danny&nbsp;<span style="color: #337744;">Hates</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #004411;">Snow</span></span>]]''</span>&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|<span style="color:#990000;font:100 8pt 'times new roman';">22:51,&nbsp;29&nbsp;December&nbsp;2009&nbsp;(UTC)</span>]]
 
::frick. --[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 22:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::Watch your NPA------[[User:Xtreme1ne|<font color="#b22222"><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua;">'''X'''</span></font>]] 14:54, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 
::::how was that NPA? <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 15:21, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 
 
:::::: how the hell was that NPA? and to who? also we need more gud pve build. that is what im wating for. like an SF nerf!--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 18:07, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::::::Again, not the place for this. Obviously it wasn't NPA. X just has a hard time reading sometimes. And I'm more excited about PvE hammer buffs :D. Hopefully heroes wont suck with the buffs. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">18:13, 31 December 2009 </font>]]
 
::::::::what other buff are happening? You aren't going to get in trouble again are you? Anything you say on page is NPA for you are using it as a talk page. I can read fine thanks.--[[User:Xtreme1ne|<font color="#b22222"><span style="font-family:Book Antiqua;">'''X'''</span></font>]] 22:15, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== HAPPY NEW YEAR ==
 
 
To all the GMT people =D --[[File:Samsig.png]] 00:16, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Greetings from 2009. Oldschool ftw. [[User:Invincible Rogue|'''<font color="#AA0088">Invincible</font>''']] [[User talk:Invincible Rogue|'''<font color="#AA0088">Rogue</font>''']][[Image:Invincible_rogue_siggy.jpg]] 00:20, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
::For the last time, the main page's talk is not for this type of stuff :/ [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:16, 1 January 2010 </font>]]
 
 
:::HAPPY NEW YEAR! also my brother "kissed the bride" at 12:00, got married on new-years. and KJ, srsly, its new years. get a grip of yourself, its fricken new years. treat this like you just won the lottery(er..... no.) this is a VIE(very-important-exception.--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 07:23, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::woops too busy on phone cant sign im that lame.--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 07:23, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::KJ is right, the main page isn't to be spammed. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:08, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::::::but its happy-new year! sigh... but lol there were 3 cars crashes in front of my house, lol. good thing i drove in at 2:00 and not 12:00.
 
 
== wth ==
 
were is the AB toucherway build? was it deleted? and if it was can an admin load it to my userpage? thanks :)--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 02:27, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
:[[Build:Team - Toucherway]]. It's there. Feel free to move it. [[User:Toraen|<font face="Courier New" color="Black">'''Toraen'''</font>]][[User_talk:Toraen|<font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor</font>]][[image:ToraenSig2.png]] <small>02:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)</small>
 
:Learn to use the main page correctly. --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|moo]]) </font></span>'''-- 08:54, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Just a quick fyi ==
 
The main page is not here to discuss your bad build that got deleted/moved/changed. Nor is it here to wish everyone Happy New Years. I've seen an increasing amount of misuse of this page, and I don't like it. Not that I'm always around to remind some people not to do so. This page is for discussing events on the site, news for the site, or things of general interest for us users of the site. Please remember this and stop posting dumb things here. Thank you in advance. -- <span style="font-family: Lao UI;" >'''[[User:Bigtymerxg4|<font color="#342EFF">¬ Big</font>]] [[User talk:Bigtymerxg4|<font color="#00008B">McStrongfist</font>]]'''</span> 15:29, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Why don't we remove the spam? I know its against policy to remove things from regular pages but couldn't we make an exception for this one? - [[User:Athrun Feya|<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Athrun</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Feya</font>]] - 15:47, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::tbh just remove it. If anyone questions you, cite PVX:IGNORE. If they still won't shut up, ban them and cite PVX:IAMANADMINANDHAVEDISCRETIONSHUTTHEFUCKUPKTHXBAI. Don't get bogged down by copypasta'd policy from GW/GWW. <font face="Courier New">C:\PvX>Abort, Retry, Panic?[[Image:Panic_Sig_Cursor.gif]]</font> 16:00, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Except Lau is not an admin Pianc. [[User:Brandnew|Brandnew ]] 16:02, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Big is. <font face="Courier New">C:\PvX>Abort, Retry, Panic?[[Image:Panic_Sig_Cursor.gif]]</font> 16:06, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::Then you indented in a confusing way :( [[User:Brandnew|Brandnew ]] 16:08, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::Panic is old skool and just keeps the convo flowing. He's such a cool kid :> --[[User:Frosty|<b><font color="Black">Frosty</font></b>]] [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 16:10, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::I was responding to Lau to some degree, but tbh I indented on autopilot. <font face="Courier New">C:\PvX>Abort, Retry, Panic?[[Image:Panic_Sig_Cursor.gif]]</font> 16:15, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:I've already been removing comments from this page. To reiterate what Big said, this page is not for random/useless conversations (much like half of this one). In the future, comments that do not directly affect the whole site will be removed from this page. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">17:12, 15 January 2010 </font>]]
 
 
== special pages ==
 
 
I don't know if this is possible or not, but I'd like to see a page which lists how many votes the builds which are currently in Testing have (maybe it already exists, I don;t know, I haven't seen one. Seems like a good method of helping to push builds through the vetting process a little faster which is (at least on the pve side of things) very much needed. - [[User:Athrun Feya|<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Athrun</font>]][[User talk:Athrun Feya|<font size="3" face="vivaldi" color="Steelblue">Feya</font>]] - 11:32, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
:we don't hvae a page that tells you how many votes a build has. you can find all untested builds by the order in which they were added (from oldest at the top to newest at the bottom) [[PvXwiki:Unvetted_pages|here]] (it gives you an exact date they were added). I honestly don't see a need for a special page that shows how many votes there are on a build, we have so few builds in testing it seems pointless. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:13, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== from [[PvXwiki:Improvement_Drive]] ==
 
 
I am interesting in special hm builds for pve. Is there a chance to create a new section (like "generall, running, farming") where only builds for hm are posted?
 
 
Greetings, Thomas
 
 
:Hey Thomas, we've had this conversation before, and we've generally decided not to, but it's been a while so i think we could open up discussion again =). I've set up a topic on [[PvXWiki talk:Community Portal#HM Builds]] <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:07, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== No one came here to buy anything ==
 
{{moved|to|[[User talk:68.193.113.198]]}}
 
 
== how will PvX ==
 
fare when GW2 coems out? will they make a GW2 version of the site? totally dif. site? how will we handle the build-making frenzy? preventing vandilization? so many noobs? are there too many questions to ask? will danny and KJ get a raise?--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 13:49, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
:we will ban all bluetapeboys and dance the gilwor dance --''[[User talk:Chaos|<font color="black">Chaos?]]</font>'' -- 14:13, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Blue, at this point, we don't even know if there will be builds in GW2. Hell, we definitely don't know if they will use something like gwBBcode that will allow people to copy builds off of the internet, so there's no use worrying about that now.
 
:However, if they do use a similar system, my hope is that we just split the site and half would be devoted to hosting GW2 builds and the other to maintaining GW1 builds. I don't really see the purpose in making a whole new site. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">14:29, 31 March 2010 </font>]]
 
::I believe originally (i.e. before we moved to wikia)we were going to make the main page link to 2 different "portals" of the same site (so basically one website but they're so completely separate they may as well be 2). However since the move to wikia I'm inclined to say that unless someone hosts it independently, or there's such minimalist changes in the way the builds work between GW1 and GW2, that there won't be a PvX2. Also, nobody gets paid here (and why danny? he's not an admin >.>) <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 15:05, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::People seem to forget that pretty often (including Auron recently). And I have that same feeling about PvX2. Unless we get a private host, or builds operate in nearly the same way, it wont happen. When builds aren't savable/importable as text files, then forums tend to be the best way to discuss them. Especially in PvE primary games, which GW2 will undoubtedly be. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] [[PvXwiki:Admin noticeboard|<font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">15:14, 31 March 2010 </font>]]
 
::::just to expand on my reasoning slightly (i thought i had said this but reading what i said i've missed it out xD) the reason this would be the case is because wikia will not put the effort in when it'd only be our one wiki that would benefit from it (I believe they didn't like the fact TOR (their main coder) put in so much effort for us (and still is with maintaining the skill database)). Needs be, if someone develops something like gwBBCode again, we could get a (free) forum and just use something like that (I'd imagine most users would prefer that given how most of the user base is atm) <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 15:27, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::There's always a small chance I'll care enough to put something together myself, but I really wouldn't count on it. Moreover, I wouldn't expect that anything I'd put together would be in a wiki-type format. (I'd probably use Drupal with a few dedicated editors and a picky submissions system. Fuck theorycrafts.) <span style="cursor:help;font:8pt 'Verdana';font-weight:100;">'''···'''&nbsp;''[[User_talk:Daññy|<span style="font-weight:100;"><span style="color: #68838B;">Danny&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #355058;">So</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #021725;">Cute</span></span>]]''</span>&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|<span style="color:#666666;font:100 8pt 'times new roman';">17:22,&nbsp;31&nbsp;March&nbsp;2010&nbsp;(UTC)</span>]]
 
 
== im expecting ==
 
a lot more builds after mesmer update. i think Panic will become OP in PvE, and Migraine will be OP in PvP. thoughts? maybe a couple archives?--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 03:13, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Where be the preview crap? Too lazy to dig around. [[Image:Zyke-Sig.png]] 03:20, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== Dear PvX ==
 
 
Largest database of Guild Wars character builds? My dear, there are larger databases (Gamependium for example, they got around 4365 builds)--[[Special:Contributions/83.81.47.239|83.81.47.239]] 11:15, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:You can measure site size or sth, and it'll apply. Also, lol Gamependium. --''[[User talk:Chaos|<font color="black">Chaos?]]</font>'' -- 11:32, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:quantity<quality [[Special:Contributions/91.150.24.212|91.150.24.212]] 11:56, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::remember we also have some 1000 builds in the "archived" section. then you can't really measure all the various builds people have in their user space...<span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:02, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::And the amount of builds that get trashed. It's not the size that counts, but what you do with it! Also, it's funny to see nubs yell at you for using "cookie-cutter" PvX builds, after you've owned them. [[User:St. Michael|<span style="color:maroon">'''ــѕт.'''</span>]][[user_talk:St. Michael|<span style="color:orange">'''мıкε'''</span>]] 12:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
:Since no one quite said it directly: 80% of the builds on Gamependium are terrible, so your point is void. &mdash; [[User:Mafaraxas|Maf so rational.]] 18:22, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
==RSS Feed==
 
I don't know if its been brought up yet, but it looks broken to me. Did GW staff change something or is just me? If it is me, how do i fix it? [[User:Riff Ibanezius|Riff]] 10:21, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
:ANet changed something with their site a while ago which means it does that occasionally, there's not much we can do about it. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 12:13, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
::It happens every now and again, sometimes it fails then the next day its working. --[[User:Frosty|<b><font color="Black">Frosty</font></b>]] [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 12:18, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== display issues ==
 
 
Someone has informed me they've been getting display issues for a while (you can see exactly what [http://img375.imageshack.us/g/pvxbroken1.png/ here]). They tell me it's the same in FF and IE. I was wondering if other people had been getting it =p? (it shows fine for me so I currently don't know if it's our end or there's). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 18:17, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
:That's a client side problem I am sure of it, it looks like that if I go on PvX on my old mobile phone. Maybe it has something to do with outdated versions of FF/IE. Anyway, it's defo client side. --[[User:Frosty|<b><font color="Black">Frosty</font></b>]] [[Image:Frostcharge.jpg|19px]] 18:42, May 27, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
== [[New User Guide]] ==
 
 
It needs a prominent link from the main page, preferably at the top. I'll be playing around with previews of the editcopy a bit, but suggestions would be appreciated. [[User:Toraen|<font face="Courier New" color="Black">'''Toraen'''</font>]][[User_talk:Toraen|<font face="Courier New" color="DarkGoldenrod">TheJanitor</font>]][[image:ToraenSig2.png]] <small>03:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
 
:personally i think the whole main page needs redoing anyway, so maybe it's time for a complete overhaul? <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 10:33, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
::^Free hands to you for all I care. I only look at it like once a month anyways, if even that. --'''<span style="font-family:Lithos Pro Regular;">[[User:Chaos Messenger|<font color="goldenrod">DANDY]] [[User_talk:Chaos|^_^]]''' </font></span>-- 13:32, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
 
::lol?--[[User:Bluetapeboy|Bluetapeboy]] 20:37, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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:apparently so, and it looks like some archived builds have risen from the dead [[Special:Contributions/86.186.247.126|86.186.247.126]] 17:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
== [http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Brandnew#Denmark] ==
 
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:Please read the fucking site notice. If you need more information, log into gamesurge chat, type /join #pvx, and talk there. --[[User Talk:Jaigoda|<font color="black">'''Jai''']]</font>[[User:Jaigoda|<font color="steelblue">'''.''']]</font> - <font color="#7A7A7A"><span style="cursor:help;font:8pt 'Calibri';font-weight:100;">17:24, October 20 2010 (UTC)</span></font>
   
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== The site notice... ==
<nowiki>:</nowiki>p --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|moo!]]) </font></span>'''-- 10:22, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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It doesn't show up on monoco or oasis (at least not for me). I'm kinda concerned, since that means that potentially a lot of people won't know of the fork. --[[User:Toraen|Toraen]] <small>18:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)</small>
== Sign if you think the main page is ugly and reqs an urgent redesign ==
 
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:I'm guessing add the "temporary" note on the main page then?--[[User:Relyk|<font color="darkblue">'''Relyk'''</font>]] [[User talk:Relyk|<font color="blue"><sub>talk</sub></font>]] 20:24, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I wonder why.... that's because it's bad for the notice to show up for everyone, so it's been disabled by the higher powers because No one wants the quality editors we have here to leave to another wiki. But since it's happening already, that's why we're advertising at msg boards all over the place for new editors. Must keep PvX@wikia alive!!! --[[User:Lania Elderfire|'''Lania Elderfire''']] 20:28, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
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::I'll add it to the main page template. '''[[User:Mgrinshpon|<font color="purple">—ǥrɩɳsɧƴ</font>]][[User talk:Mgrinshpon|<font color="deeppink">ɖɩđđɭɘş</font>]]''' [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 01:52, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
   
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== Full Hero Team Builds ==
#^ :p --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|moo!]]) </font></span>'''-- 20:19, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
#^ --[[User talk:The Short One|<font color="black"><b>''Short''</b></font>]] 20:20, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
# I agree; however, I personally do not have the time. And it would need to be simple in one regard or another. Otherwise we'd get into problems between Monobook users and Monaco users. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:22, 7 July 2010 </font>
 
# --[[User:Novii|<font color="LawnGreen"><span style="font-family:Papyrus;">'''No'''</span></font>]][[User_talk:Novii|<font color="Fuchsia"><span style="font-family:Papyrus;">'''vii'''</span></font>]] 20:33, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
# see my comment below <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 20:36, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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I suggest that the wiki already makes a section for Full Hero Partys because they are announced for one of the next updates.
== Discussion of Above Topic ==
 
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We could already start making Builds and download the Code, so we can start playing when the update comes :)
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--02:29, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
:We don't add builds to the build space prior to game changes. However, we already have plans to make these on our new site after we move. I don't know what this wiki is going to do, but the new site will definitely have 7 hero builds in the build space the second they update the game. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">02:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</font>
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:{{ec}}We still don't do builds based on future updates. Make the builds in your namespaces, and move into buildspace when the update goes live. I guess we can archive all the 3-hero and 2-man 6-hero builds at that point as well. --[[User:Toraen|Toraen]] <small>02:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</small>
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::The 2 man ones will still have use for use with friends, and the 3 hero ones are nice for playing casually with a friend. '''[[User:Mgrinshpon|<font color="purple">—ǥrɩɳsɧƴ</font>]][[User talk:Mgrinshpon|<font color="deeppink">ɖɩđđɭɘş</font>]]''' [[Image:Grinshpon blinky cake.gif|19px]] 02:34, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::or if you're in an area where your party limit is 4? <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 11:12, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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::::Well derp. --[[User:Toraen|Toraen]] <small>13:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)</small>
   
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== Translation ==
Actually, maybe we could make this a group project. I would have time to help design images or something like that, but I wouldn't have time to do the whole thing myself. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">20:23, 7 July 2010 </font>
 
:Well I'm shite at wiki stuff, so meh. --[[User talk:The Short One|<font color="black"><b>''Short''</b></font>]] 20:27, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
::I'm happy to code it as long as someone gives me a design (I'm generally rather "meh" with the design aspect). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 20:36, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::The best I can do is link to good looking and convenient sites, and explain what impossible I have in mind then tell you that you're doing it completely wrong. I don't think that's of much use.
 
:::The build categories are obviously the first thing to take into account, then I think that some mainpage publicity for our guides would be good. If build packs get used, which I don't know, then those too. I feel like revamping the Featured Build system to be less of a "tl;dr many builds show up on main page" and be more pleasant to follow. Is a single system that shows one or two mini-skill bars on the main page possible?
 
:::Some ideas we could work on :p --'''<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;">[[User:Chaos|<font color="deeppink">-Chaos-]] ([[User_talk:Chaos|moo!]]) </font></span>'''-- 21:03, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Well, why don't we start with a Project page that we can announce to others. That way we can keep all of our ideas in one place. Plus this page needs to be archived soon. I think the mini-skill bars wouldn't be impossible, but I can't imagine how we could auto-feed that. And the build packs, guides, and builds all need to be mainpage'd. The build packs are being downloaded more and more heavily. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:21, 7 July 2010 </font>
 
:::::The build apcks actually get downloaded? Do you have numbers? --[[User talk:The Short One|<font color="black"><b>''Short''</b></font>]] 16:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::a couple of notes: the "project page" may as well be the main page edit copy ([[Main Page/editcopy]]), considering that's where all suggested changes will be made =p. As for mini skill bars, it's perfectly possible to have them done in a similar manner to what is currently done, but you'd have to manually add the mini skill bar (i.e change the skills yourself), but I have a few issues with that suggestion: first, you're limiting it to single builds, team builds wouldn't really be feature-able. Secondly people have enough trouble changing the featured builds, if they have to change skill bars, I feel that'd confuse them more = (I think there was more but I'm editing in parts and I can't remember <<). As for BP, Guides and builds, they're already main paged.....just throwing it out there...Also, I think it's important to keep a the wiki news, and game update sections (they can be moved and what not, but I think it's important to have them =p). <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 21:56, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::[http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/PvXwiki_talk:Build_Packs#Newest_Stats Here are the numbers on the build packs]. I haven't checked the numbers in a while, though. They were going up more and more quickly, last time I checked. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:02, 7 July 2010 </font>
 
:::::::That's a helluva lot more than I expected. --[[User talk:The Short One|<font color="black"><b>''Short''</b></font>]] 22:04, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
::::::::And that's March. There are probably a lot more now. If I have time to run the collecting bot tomorrow, then I'll update the numbers. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">22:06, 7 July 2010 </font>
 
:::::::::Perhaps show monthly numbers on the new main page somewhere? Just for showing off and to help advertise them. --[[User talk:The Short One|<font color="black"><b>''Short''</b></font>]] 22:08, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::::::: To be honest, I like the Main Page the way it is. All I try to do to liven it up is to switch the builds every Sunday (Was gone so i'll do it soon today). :\ [[User:Vincent E V A N|<font color="brown" size="2px">Vincent Evan</font>]] [[User talk:Vincent E V A N|<font color="brown" size="2px">[Air Henchman]</font>]] [[Image:vincels.jpg|19px]] 23:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Can someone please translate the Monk PvE WoH RA build back to English. It and several other builds are no longer in English.
It looks like most of the successful PC gaming wikis use a layout similar to [http://fallout.wikia.com/index.php?title=Fallout_Wiki Fallout's]. I wouldn't want to make the main page the same as everyone else's, but maybe more graphics and a two column approach would help. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">13:22, 8 July 2010 </font>
 
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:You can't expect us to maintain all builds in English. Feel free to translate, however, for a subpage. Guild Wars and PvX both have vibrant hispanic and spanish communities, and we don't feel as though those editors need to conform to some silly "standard" of using English. --&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|Danny]]&nbsp;[http://gwpvx.com Goes&nbsp;Rogue] 17:23, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Make it a "contest". Invite people to sketch a layout and submit via email or mock up an example in their User space and simply provide a link. This is, however, dependant on having a suitably motivational prize for the contest. <font face="Courier New">C:\PvX>Abort, Retry, Panic?[[Image:Panic_Sig_Cursor.gif]]</font> 13:49, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
::it's that latter point that's the issue. That said, we could always make a little news item to say "we want to redesign the main page, post suggestions, or mock up examples (drawn or otherwise) on the (news article) talk". That might get a few suggestions. Aso for the "fallout layout". I'd depending on how you look at it, we generally are using a 2 column layout. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 15:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
:::I agree with Phen on the news article. I meant to suggest that earlier. I'll write one up later if you don't beat me to it, Phen. Also, we'd need to discuss all of the new features with Wikia and how much we'd like to feature them. For example, we can provide the option to link PvX accounts to Facebook through wikia (which doesn't sound appealing to me, but some may like it). So, we'd need to look at all of those options. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">15:56, 8 July 2010 </font>
 
:The most successful PC gaming wikis are for games people play/care about. That hasn't been the case for Guild Wars for well over 2 years. <span style="cursor:help;font:8pt 'Verdana';font-weight:100;">'''···'''&nbsp;''[[User_talk:Daññy|<span style="font-weight:100;"><span style="color: #68838B;">Danny&nbsp;</span><span style="color: #355058;">So</span>&nbsp;<span style="color: #021725;">Cute</span></span>]]''</span>&nbsp;[[User:Daññy|<span style="color:#666666;font:100 8pt 'times new roman';">09:16,&nbsp;14&nbsp;July&nbsp;2010&nbsp;(UTC)</span>]]
 
   
 
== Featured builds ==
I wanna do PvX related stuff! -- <span style="font-family: Lao UI;" >'''[[User:Bigtymerxg4|<font color="#342EFF">Big</font>]] [[User talk:Bigtymerxg4|<font color="#00008B">McStrongfist</font>]]'''</span> 19:38, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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The featured builds section has been taken off the main page for now, since nobody was maintaining it and it would be bad to display outdated information. Once there is enough activity on the wiki for featuring builds to make sense and someone wants to take care of maintaining the section, it can be added again. &mdash;&thinsp;[[User:Hhhippo|<font color="darkblue" face="times">'''H<small>HHIPPO</small>'''</font>]] 20:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)
== Hero Builds category ==
 
   
 
== Death of PvX@Wikia ==
This category should be removed if the builds in it are not usable by Heros which is the case at this time. All of the builds that I looked at have 2 or 3 skills unusable by Heros and it is pointless to have the builds here. If I have to constantly edit the build, then I may as well just get them from the other areas.
 
[[Special:Contributions/99.237.42.219|99.237.42.219]] 18:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
:it may be a case that build is designed for general use, but with small tweaks (such as changing out PvE-Only skills) that there's no point in having seperate articles. In such cases there's normaly a variants section or a suggestion under the build which will say "switch skills XYZ for ABC if using on a hero" or some such thing. If that isn't the case, I'd suggest removing the hero tag. <span style="font-family: Consolas; font-size:11pt;">'''[[User:Phenaxkian|<font color="#4169E1"> ~ PheNaxKian</font>]]</span> <span style="font-size: 8pt;">[[User talk:Phenaxkian|<font color="#8A2BE2">talk</font>]]'''</span> 19:36, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 
:Sorry you have to apply some thought rather than download and load-up. I'm sure one of our many ''volunteers'' (that's the important word) will be sure to create separate pages for the hero-only builds (only for those pages to later be WELL'd and deleted because we already have them on file). Hurr. [[User:Daññy|Daññy]] 07:22, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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^So, I guess it can be officially confirmed. Only shitter builds here, basically no build vetting, and what Hhippo did. GG Wikia. [[Special:Contributions/217.113.225.44|217.113.225.44]] 17:52, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
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Hi, can anyone provide a guide as to how you move a build to the trial phase?
 
:Place a tag similar to <nowiki>{{Untested-Trial|Area1|Area2|etc.}}</nowiki> on the build. [[User:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Karate'''</font>]] [[File:KJ for sig.png]] [[User_talk:Karate Jesus|<font color="Black" face="cambria">'''Jesus'''</font>]] <font face="Arial" color="gray" size="1">21:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)</font>
 
   
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See [[User_talk:Phenaxkian#Hey]] &mdash; [[User:Mafaraxas|Maf so rational.]] 03:34, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 
   
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Given the current state of the other pvx wiki, both in lack of editing as in the abuse of captcha's, perhaps this wikia version should be revived and the note on the front page removed. [[User:Amy Awien|Amy Awien]] ([[User talk:Amy Awien|talk]]) 07:22, June 19, 2014 (UTC)
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Response from TOR (2)

Ok, here's TOR's latest response on the PvP skill problem:

>Ok, I confirmed that the code has the same ID between PvP and PvE. Sorry. Is there still a way to fix it? - KJ

>Argh. Not one that won't require some additional coding and modifications. And as, sadly, this is a project that will only ever help one wiki, it might take time to find the resources and time to implement (how much time -- I don't really know, might be long though).

I'll ask around to see how other sites that are using gwbbcode have coped with this, but my bet is they simply haven't taken the time to properly update the data. But maybe...

Do you want some sort of ad hoc solution? Like removing the pvp versions altogether? - TOR

I told him that we might as well keep the PvP versions until we figure something out. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 17:52, 24 November 2009
Just change every space in the code to a + ;o (no, I really don't know anything about coding) ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:41, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
Not that simple. When copy/pasting into the skill template (in Guild Wars itself) you notice the numbers and letters are fairly similar. Well, with all of the various skills contained in the 4 games, you literally have thousands of combinations you can potentially wind up with. The problem is, adding a + to those templates would count as another character, not as space. So you'd wind up with a (quite possibly) broken template. Mcbig sysop 02:43, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
can't we just make things like spirit bond (pvp) have the same code as spirit bond? i dont know anything about coding, but if we can set spirit bonds code to be whatever numbers + letters, why not make pvp be identical, it seems like a simple concept in my head. flaw somewhere? Gringo 05:20, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
I thought of the same thing. I think of many things. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 10:43, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, guys. Just a little update on this. TOR said he fixed the problem and it should be dl'ing correctly now. Try it out and let me know if it's still doing it. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 02:36, 26 November 2009

it's worth noting that PvE and PvP do have different IDs...so...yeh... ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:16, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Well, son of a bitch. I'll let TOR know. Thanks. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:19, 28 November 2009
disregard that, talking with poke leads to confusions (he said they had diff ideas, that link seemed to confirm it, he just checked in game himself and they do have the same IDs...so >.> (i lack playing capability atm so I can't personally check)) ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:30, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
To clear that up, PvE and PvP versions of skills are different skills and as such have different skill ids (as the internal skill database was never meant to offer multiple versions of one single skill). The thing is just that when generating the skill template code in-game, it treats PvP version skills as PvE version skills. That way PvE skill templates are the same as PvP skill templates (and allows to load PvP builds in PvE and vice-versa without having lots of blanks for missing skills). Of course this makes it impossible to identify if a skill template was meant for PvP or PvE (unless there are PvE-only skills in there of course). The easiest way to give people the ability to display a build, with the correct skill descriptions, would be to introduce some parameter that makes them say "mode = pvp" so the script actually translates the PvE skill ids into PvP skill ids before the actual skill description is read. Of course this would require some additional database to get the PvP ids from PvE ids (and the other way for skill template code generation). That way you would treat the PvP skills as single skills afterwards and could simply store the PvP description under the PvP skill id. poke | talk 22:39, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Ok...then. I had already informed TOR and he seems to think that the link we gave him will actually help. If he changes the PvP skill IDs to the IDs on that page will they actually work in-game? If not, then I'd better tell him not to waste his time. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:42, 28 November 2009
What link do you mean?
Well, I would simply treat the PvP versions as single skills (as they are actually) and add them to the database with their PvP skill id and the correct data; then I would simply add a routine that works after decoding a skill template but before receiving the skill data, and for the other way after getting the skill ids from the skill name, so before generating the template code. This routine would simply look up the skill id and get the PvP/PvE skill id (depending on which is needed) - if available. So the actual code would not be influenced at all, but there would be just an "extension" that has two hooks at the correct places to get the correct skill id for displaying the correct data. poke | talk 22:51, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Btw. I'm looking through the code right now and probably can tell you soon where exactly those places would be. poke | talk 22:51, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
That would be great, because....if you can't tell....I really don't know much about this stuff. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 22:56, 28 November 2009
Okay, here we go; First of all we create some code to get the correct skill id, these functions will be used later as explained below. Simply add this code somewhere (preferably at the end) of gwbbcode.inc.php:
// Skill ID conversion database
$pvpSkillIds = array( 2657 => 415, 2852 => 79, 2853 => 39, 2855 => 176, 2856 => 562, 2857 => 257, 2858 => 348,
    2859 => 2628, 2860 => 181, 2861 => 398, 2862 => 826, 2863 => 817, 2864 => 1191, 2865 => 1217,
    2866 => 791, 2867 => 1246, 2868 => 792, 2869 => 1639, 2870 => 1367, 2871 => 1397, 2872 => 104,
    2873 => 1484, 2874 => 1485, 2875 => 1549, 2876 => 1555, 2877 => 1564, 2878 => 1771, 2879 => 1596,
    2880 => 1598, 2882 => 15, 2883 => 343, 2884 => 1516, 2885 => 118, 2887 => 294, 2888 => 1539,
    2891 => 268, 2892 => 1114, 2893 => 793, 2895 => 2005, 2925 => 2069, 2959 => 1724, 2965 => 1239,
    2966 => 1742, 2967 => 1520, 2969 => 432, 2998 => 19, 2999 => 243, 3002 => 374, 3003 => 1232,
    3004 => 1238, 3005 => 911, 3006 => 871, 3007 => 3042, 3008 => 920, 3009 => 1266, 3010 => 1249,
    3011 => 1250, 3012 => 1251, 3013 => 981, 3014 => 921, 3015 => 1252, 3016 => 982, 3017 => 923,
    3018 => 963, 3019 => 1253, 3020 => 3043, 3021 => 1380, 3022 => 1734, 3023 => 1745, 3024 => 1747,
    3025 => 1748, 3026 => 1558, 3027 => 1572, 3028 => 1575, 3029 => 1580, 3030 => 1778, 3031 => 1780,
    3032 => 1589, 3033 => 1592, 3034 => 1781, 3035 => 1593, 3036 => 1594, 3037 => 1595, 3038 => 2205,
    3039 => 2204, 3040 => 2018, 3045 => 436, 3047 => 429, 3048 => 1031, 3049 => 1041, 3050 => 1194,
    3051 => 1202, 3052 => 1540, 3053 => 2186, 3054 => 2139, 3058 => 110, 3059 => 145, 3060 => 448,
    3061 => 775, 3062 => 1577, 3063 => 17 );

function getSkillIdPvP( $pve )
{
    return ( isset( $pvpSkillIds[ $pve ] ) ? $pvpSkillIds[ $pve ] : $pve );
}
function getSkillIdPvE( $pvp )
{
    $pveSkillIds = array_flip( $pvpSkillIds );
    return ( isset( $pveSkillIds[ $pvp ] ) ? $pveSkillIds[ $pvp ] : $pvp );
}
Now we simply call those funtions at the correct place to translate the skill ids. The following changes do exactly that:
gwwbbcode.inc.php line 1594:
$skill_id = binval($reg2[1]);
change to:
$skill_id = getSkillIdPvP( binval($reg2[1]) );
gwwbbcode.inc.php line 612
$template .= int2bin($id, $skill_bit_size);
change to:
$template .= getSkillIdPvE( int2bin($id, $skill_bit_size) );
And that's basically all there is to do to translate it. Now there is only a simple database needed that keeps track of PvE->PvP skill id relations. I'll try to get that list compiled later. It then needs to be added somewhere at the top or in a separate file (which then get's included by require 'pvpskillids.php'). I have included the complete array for the current skill balancing already in the code above. You can also move that array definition out of the file into something else (so you only have to update that file when something changes). The format of the array simply goes like this PvP skill id => PvE skill id.
I have not tested the code, but I'm quite sure that it should work like this :) poke | talk 23:47, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
Ah, thanks so much Poke. I'll pass this information on. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 23:51, 28 November 2009

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Did somebody rage PvX Wiki and Trash it?

All mini skill bars are 4 frenzy 4 healing signet and a giant pokemon is on pages EXtREME_zer0 14:22, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

apparently so, and it looks like some archived builds have risen from the dead 86.186.247.126 17:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
Please read the fucking site notice. If you need more information, log into gamesurge chat, type /join #pvx, and talk there. --Jai. - 17:24, October 20 2010 (UTC)

The site notice...

It doesn't show up on monoco or oasis (at least not for me). I'm kinda concerned, since that means that potentially a lot of people won't know of the fork. --Toraen 18:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing add the "temporary" note on the main page then?--Relyk talk 20:24, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I wonder why.... that's because it's bad for the notice to show up for everyone, so it's been disabled by the higher powers because No one wants the quality editors we have here to leave to another wiki. But since it's happening already, that's why we're advertising at msg boards all over the place for new editors. Must keep PvX@wikia alive!!! --Lania Elderfire 20:28, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
I'll add it to the main page template. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 01:52, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Full Hero Team Builds

I suggest that the wiki already makes a section for Full Hero Partys because they are announced for one of the next updates. We could already start making Builds and download the Code, so we can start playing when the update comes :) --02:29, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

We don't add builds to the build space prior to game changes. However, we already have plans to make these on our new site after we move. I don't know what this wiki is going to do, but the new site will definitely have 7 hero builds in the build space the second they update the game. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 02:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
(EC)We still don't do builds based on future updates. Make the builds in your namespaces, and move into buildspace when the update goes live. I guess we can archive all the 3-hero and 2-man 6-hero builds at that point as well. --Toraen 02:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
The 2 man ones will still have use for use with friends, and the 3 hero ones are nice for playing casually with a friend. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş Grinshpon blinky cake 02:34, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
or if you're in an area where your party limit is 4? ~ PheNaxKian talk 11:12, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
Well derp. --Toraen 13:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Translation

Can someone please translate the Monk PvE WoH RA build back to English. It and several other builds are no longer in English.

You can't expect us to maintain all builds in English. Feel free to translate, however, for a subpage. Guild Wars and PvX both have vibrant hispanic and spanish communities, and we don't feel as though those editors need to conform to some silly "standard" of using English. -- Danny Goes Rogue 17:23, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Featured builds

The featured builds section has been taken off the main page for now, since nobody was maintaining it and it would be bad to display outdated information. Once there is enough activity on the wiki for featuring builds to make sense and someone wants to take care of maintaining the section, it can be added again. — HHHIPPO 20:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Death of PvX@Wikia

^So, I guess it can be officially confirmed. Only shitter builds here, basically no build vetting, and what Hhippo did. GG Wikia. 217.113.225.44 17:52, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

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Death of Curses wiki

Given the current state of the other pvx wiki, both in lack of editing as in the abuse of captcha's, perhaps this wikia version should be revived and the note on the front page removed. Amy Awien (talk) 07:22, June 19, 2014 (UTC)