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Ahh all clean. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 15:40, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Poros are first. ---Chaos is gay - 15:41, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Do you like my archival pupu? AthrunAthrun SigFeya 15:42, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
It has a very small cage. Then again, the wild one on your userpage doesn't use much of the space it has. ---Chaos is gay - 15:43, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Pink Llama I know you loved having it at the top of your page :D. Andy 22:45, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Archive page syndrome... AthrunAthrun SigFeya 22:47, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

DoA Rangerway

Works. Did Gloom, gg DarkChaosSig 00:50, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

it's pve, a lot of things 'work' AthrunAthrun SigFeya 02:26, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Lau is either up really late or really early. Life Guardian 02:29, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
been out drinking! hi pretty, get on msn i need someone to talk to, dannykins isnt in <3 AthrunAthrun SigFeya 02:33, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Life's sister is in the room, and getting random im's from random euroland girls that are in college would look weird! Life Guardian 02:52, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
/shoo AthrunAthrun SigFeya 02:56, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Rawr Lau! Go play spin the bottle with yourself. Life Guardian 03:05, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
urbad. that doesnt work. I can do that without the bottle.... AthrunAthrun SigFeya 03:07, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
*Cough* that's what i was getting at *cough*. Life Guardian 03:08, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
k night AthrunAthrun SigFeya 03:10, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Hf with your hangover! Life Guardian 03:13, September 28, 2009 (UTC)


Weird lau is weird

if that doesn't make you go "wat?", then you spend wayy too much time on the internet. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:08, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

I want to see this movie --Frosty Mc Admin 21:09, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
A Clockwork Orange o.- AthrunAthrun SigFeya 21:11, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Ironic I have seen this movie, that bit is fucking epic. --Frosty Mc Admin 21:14, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
movie best watched high--X 22:40, September 28, 2009 (UTC)
Watching the ending, I know I've seen it before. No clue why I couldn't remember the threesom to classical music though. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 22:42, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

The book is better imo DarkChaosSig 00:43, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


I don't know how much everyone else is in favour of this idea, but I think that we need some sort of Dungeons/Elite Area hub, similar to User:Athrun_Feya/Elite_SC_Guide to help give people an overview of what builds to use where. There needs to be some really obvious link to this hub (if it was just shuffled into guides, noone would ever read it, like the rest of the guides). I thought of a few suggestions, such as making a really obvious link on the main page, or making a dungeon/elite area tag with a link (like the PvE meta one) or making a dungeon/elite area catagory, but i wonder what others think to this idea. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 11:51, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

I'd support a new PvE category, and changing each noun on your userpage to "poro". ---Chaos is gay - 11:55, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
improvement? AthrunAthrun SigFeya 12:37, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
<3. Also, <3. Also also, <3. Also also also, Danny, you just got served. ---Chaos is gay - 13:48, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
wot? my subtle revert war with lau was much better than your autistic suggestion. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:06, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Actually, I think this one turned out pretty well. Did you know the adult version of the puppy below can herd poros.
<3 AthrunAthrun SigFeya 20:11, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
är att en vitalghund? :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:28, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
nej, samojedhund AthrunAthrun SigFeya 20:30, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
så söt! ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:32, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Bumping the original suggestion in this topic AthrunAthrun SigFeya 12:25, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Låt oss göra spädbarn

^ ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:52, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Ooh Danny. Sure. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 20:54, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
This swedish confuses me. Ironboot× 20:57, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Hey reino <3 its fine, google translator understands! AthrunAthrun SigFeya 20:58, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
I understand too, but still, it doesn't belong here. :( Ironboot× 20:59, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
I think you misunderstand the purpose of talk pages. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:01, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Swedish on pvx is just weird k. Ironboot× 21:03, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
ei kuulu suomalaisetkaan AthrunAthrun SigFeya 21:05, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
finländarna är dåliga människor :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:10, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
mutta ne on söpöjä, qq AthrunAthrun SigFeya 21:18, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
lögner. :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:49, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
ei sä AthrunAthrun SigFeya 23:09, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Jag är för lat för att översätta de sista raderna, men livet vill vara en del av samtalet! Life Guardian 23:13, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
använda google mer skitare ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:17, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
Jag är verkligen med google. Tar dock tid att översätta, och jag är mycket lat. Life Guardian 23:18, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
tyd ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:22, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
OYE COMO VA Kbar 23:19, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
dejanos, autisto ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:22, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
"I'm really with google." Lolz, internet relationship. --Jaigoda endrant Jaiwritesalot . . . 23:24, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Jag skrattar på riktigt här, suverän grammatic för +1. Lau, <3 ---Chaos is gay - 09:12, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


then at the very least remove danny's because that is about as invalid as it gets.

No. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 01:14, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
CRY FUCKING MOAR NIGGERTITS--TahiriVeila 01:17, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
LAU!!!! HE'S IN KISS!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Life Guardian 01:23, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Shit me sideways. I'm so excited I even messaged Cupcake!! AthrunAthrun SigFeya 01:24, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

So its been a few days.

I guess you haven't noticed, but you might want to restore the votes. -- Drah 02:34, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Oops, I did know but did nothing because i know a general casterway DoA is floating around PvX somewhere which includes Focway. I'll remove them in the meanwhile though, i guess AthrunAthrun SigFeya 10:49, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

single, air-headed...

...arrogant, perma-mentalled, brutish, pea-brained, and confrontational "master." ohai Shazzydiddles 03:08, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

<3 hey shithead AthrunAthrun SigFeya 10:46, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


Look at my suggestions topic shitters. Also, I'm hunting for ideas for a new sig. It needs to be cute and possibly fluffy, and its usual habitat should be somewhere in the arctic circle. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 16:07, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Poroporo? Arctic Seal? Bear? ---Chaos is gay - 16:12, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Give me examples. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 16:14, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

msn, you has it? --Frosty Mc Admin 16:15, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Then I'll QQ to you about my R/D runner in Finnish. ---Chaos is gay - 16:18, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Suar, but I'll add you. Um... AthrunAthrun SigFeya 16:58, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
PvX:ADMIN --Frosty Mc Admin 17:00, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Btw, I added you Chaos. Of course youre welcome to speak at me in Finnish, but then I can only reply the Finnish way... 1 word answers. AthrunAthrun SigFeya 17:14, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Omoi ;D ---Chaos is gay - 18:01, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

seallau.jpg Athrun Feya

If you liuke I will upload said seal, watch out for Danny though, he clubs the little things! --Frosty Mc Admin 16:34, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

The cyan kills my eyes. ---Chaos is gay - 16:39, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
good --Frosty Mc Admin 16:40, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Danny is so mean. :( --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin 16:42, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Meh, I bet the seals gave him a dirty look. --Frosty Mc Admin 16:45, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
You bet wrong, seals can't give dirty looks. --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin 16:46, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm, good point, it must have been void.

seal%20broken.jpg --Frosty Mc Admin 16:50, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Thats just mean. :/ --Carnivorous CupcakeCarnCupcake Muffin 18:07, September 30, 2009 (UTC)
'Tis natural selection. At the end of the day, poro's win. ---Chaos is gay - 18:22, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

idhititsealclubbing.jpg ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:03, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Enough seals. Testing sig... - AthrunFeya pcon_snow_test.gif 01:20, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I have a better idea

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---Chaos is gay - 19:15, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I love it! AthrunAthrun SigFeya 19:18, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Dear Lau

You are an incredibly popular person, people have been asking me for your msn, I too am now curious, what is your msn? :P----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig 01:42, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Uh, had like 4 people ask me today =/ either give me yours or ask someone you think might have - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 01:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Add brave piercing at his super gay msn and piercing shall give you access to the hawtness that is lau! Life Guardian 01:53, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Iffy raged at not getting it from me, he came to you then? :> ---Chaos is gay - 06:45, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Wat, I told you you could. And one or two others. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 11:17, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I was unsure about what you meant and I cbf'd ;o ---Chaos is gay - 11:23, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Whatever :p I was unsually popular yesterday - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 11:25, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I noticed you're one of the few people on PvX that can actually be MSN'd with without it turning into faggotry :o After this convincing speech, expect another few MSN requests today. ---Chaos is gay - 11:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Only because you appreciate my ossum and extensive knowledge of poros and their native country. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 13:15, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's not a merge of 3 builds

I had two builds up that were in good and great and one of them (the good one) got merged into oblivion because its elite was WoH. And don't give me any crap about wammos, trust me, I know its a wammo, but that doesn't mean that chaos can just delete it. I stand by my vote and honestly I don't see what gives you the authority to remove it.Shadow of Darkness 03:13, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Lol. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 03:14, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Sry, I tend to nerd rage a lil''s no big deal I guess...Shadow of Darkness 03:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Furst, wtf its october? god i dont pay attention to anything. segund.  :D i likey the snow. Akio_Katsuragi Akio Katsuragi Sig 04:35, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Afaik the Defy runner manages great in FoW, then we don't need another one. ---Chaos is gay - 06:47, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Afaik, Chaos can't delete shit, he can only tag stuff to suggest it is deleted. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 07:09, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I noted that too, but if I make trolling points my real ones get missed. ---Chaos is gay - 07:16, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Your name is Lau?!?! ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 11:35, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
If that question was directed at her, please indent more, if it was directed towards me, I'm Daniel/Danny/Dandy, gtfo ;o ---Chaos is gay - 11:39, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Yeah =/ - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 13:13, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Chaos don't be retarded that's like saying "Shock axe works great so we don't need anymore pvp axe builds." Variety is the spice of life.Shadow of Darkness 13:21, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
No it's not, that's a build for one designed situation, Shock Axe is universal and different builds perform better in different teams and situations. With no team and only one situation there's no need to have several builds. ---Chaos is gay - 13:28, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Gtfo Chaos. Whenever I see Dandy pop up on MSN, obvious first name is obvious. And your name is unique. Can I borrow 300k? ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 18:51, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Also, I indent after everyone but myself. It's less annoying that way. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 18:54, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)You see, the actual issue here is that you use MSN and not Pidgin. If I'd put together everything I have I wouldn't even get to 300k and in the time I'd sell anything worthwhile I could've farmed the cash together. But oh, I don't farm. ---Chaos is gay - 18:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

skull crack axe wins games. ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:55, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I love the build tbh. Let's vet one into great. ---Chaos is gay - 18:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Okay since you're all on my talk page, go look at that sodding suggestion thing i posted three days ago. I've only had 1 real answer so far and that was from chaos... yeah. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
post it again or link. you know none of us are going to bother to look for it. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:09, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
"and that was from chaos" as in my suggestions are worthless, or to thank me for giving a crap? (which I don't) ---Chaos is gay - 19:26, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

suggestions #2 (because scrolling up is hard)

I don't know how much everyone else is in favour of this idea, but I think that we need some sort of Dungeons/Elite Area hub, similar to User:Athrun_Feya/Elite_SC_Guide to help give people an overview of what builds to use where. There needs to be some really obvious link to this hub (if it was just shuffled into guides, noone would ever read it, like the rest of the guides). I thought of a few suggestions, such as making a really obvious link on the main page, or making a dungeon/elite area tag with a link (like the PvE meta one) or making a dungeon/elite area catagory, but i wonder what others think to this idea. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:20, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

i'd suggest just creating a new PvE category: Speed Clears ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:22, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Hmm, maybe. All i want really is some very easy way of seeing a lists of dungeons and a list of ways you can complete said dungeons with links to the appropriate ages. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:37, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
You can always play around with the main page mock-up. There's a link to it somewhere on the Main Page. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:40, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
You can do whatever you like. If you need some kind of authorization...well you guys are obviously not dumb. I'm the admin that bans people and stuff. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 19:41, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Do we just name it "Elite Areas", or what? ---Chaos is gay - 19:52, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Depends on the builds we're including. I'd assume full-team clears, thus Speed Clears. 600/Smite is covered in farming and is entirely different (and could realistically warrant an entirely new section itself as well), so I'd suggest leaving it out. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:54, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I think we should do the speed clears catagory (which would ahve dungeon 8 man sc, elite area sc and faction farming sc). I still think there should be a really obvious link to a Dungeon Hub too, where people can just look down a list of dungeons and see what dungeon they want, then follow the links to available builds. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:59, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Speed Clears it is. Just make sure all the builds are named obviously enough for the hub to not be necessary (UWSC, DoASC and whatever there is, I have no idea). ---Chaos is gay - 20:02, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
(EC) Make a dungeons section, too, and dual-tag the speed clear builds and 600 builds. ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:03, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Meh, I still want to have an article like this which basically links you and tells you exactly what you need. Its really clear here since all like-dungeons are grouped together, whereas in the actual builds themselves we follow two different naming conventions. First there is things like 600/smite "area name", but then we also have "area name" build-way - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 20:06, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Then you figure out a way to do it. ;o ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:07, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Create the guide in guides and have a template on each dungeon page, reading something along the lines of

"This is part of the Dungeon Build Series, see Dungeon Guide(link) for an overview of all Dungeons." Uhh. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 20:14, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

So yeah, definately make a SC catagory, for what i mentioned up there ^ and then make just a template (like the requires-cons one for all dungeons that links to a dungeon hub. Aye? - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 20:44, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

danny says

i have to ask permission for your msn. Gringo 20:06, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

i refuse to go the the bm page. Gringo 20:07, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

iz correct and that's not my msn address. You can have it if you sort out Innoruuk's next contribution ;p - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 20:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Sorting it out yourself Chaos will not get you my phone number fyi! - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 20:17, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Odamn. How about a pity-cyber? ---Chaos is gay - 20:18, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

i get free toy shows every night becuase lau wubs me. then i return the favor! :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 20:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I have Lau's phone number. Moahaha! Ironboot× 20:25, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I have ym's phone number. ---Chaos is gay - 20:27, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
orly. What is it? Ironboot× 20:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Just yellowpage the nearest bordello and ask for her. ---Chaos is gay - 20:33, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
i highly doubt laura wants to read this shit guys. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .
You'd be surprised. ---Chaos is gay - 20:44, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I highly doubt that if you don't sign your next comment, I'm going to devastating banhammer your ass. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 20:56, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Mmmmm, good idea. Now ignore the rest of the shit that goes on whilst threatening banning for forgetting to sign. Good idea.--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig $ɧor₮ talk 21:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
mmmm, realize I get MSN'd for just about every stupid thing that goes on, via this here site. I choose to step in when there's no other admin present. Also, whoru? ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 21:04, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I lurk. whoru mr inactive admin--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig $ɧor₮ talk 21:08, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Liger after namechange. ---Chaos is gay - 21:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Nobody knew me before name change so that doesn't help.--TheShortOneKlhksjdnfsig $ɧor₮ talk 21:11, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
lau told me she loves when i dont sign because it adds to her sexual fantasies of a mysterious man. big get off your power stool and ban people who actually hurt the site. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .
Big said he highly doubted that he'd ban you, so I think you're safe. <3 ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:19, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
phew, i was really worried for a second there The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .
I'm pretty well-known, apparently. I've become inactive for various reasons. Mainly my deciding to finish school. Also DSL is pretty shitty to PvX on. Going fro 30mbps (3MB download), to 1.5mbps (150KBps) sucks dick. Also I'm inactive due to several others becoming inactive. And my PC randomly decides to shit out. Finally, stop tempting me to ban you just because I have a banhammer to do so, and you can't do anything about it. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 21:26, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
woh big the badass. wielding pvx power, ur right i need to back off. think about banning people who deserve to be banned, not people who wont stroke your epeen. crap forgot to sign. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .

(Reset indent) It only took you like.. 10 edits to figure out you never signed, tho you've been noted about it and I even posted on your talk. ---Chaos is gay - 21:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

That and you should just follow the rules and quit trying to be cute you jackass. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 21:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
its a talk page and youre getting all hyped up holmes. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .
Not getting hyped up, are really annoying. And your lack of intelligence is really beginning to show. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 21:53, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
intelligence = pressing ~~~~ guys. if you wanna continue complaining do it on my page no laus. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gringo (talk • contribs) .

Exactly. Now, Guide:Dungeon_Overview and Template:Dungeon_Build. Discuss. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 21:57, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Where's the SC ones? ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Also, I meant we should include it in the current Great/Good/Testing template. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:58, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Neh, this works too. Hmm, I thought we wanted Speed Clears as another main-page category. If so, I have no clue how to do that - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 22:00, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Eh. It's pretty complicated. Remind me tomorrow and I'll set up everything and code it so we can do it if we get an admin approval. (I can't imagine they'd have an issue with it.) ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:07, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Hello Lau

Why does everyone want your msn? Is it because you do not have a penis? If I removed my penis would more people talk to me on msn? Do you infact have a penis and do I have to do something else like become good at the game? I might have had a point, but it's somewhat abstract and buried. Have a nice day. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 22:52, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Eh, wat. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 23:03, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
Wait....wait...wait....hold the phone....Misery has a penis? Well that is the only news I got out of that...everybody knows Lau is popular--X 23:13, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
I need your phone number so each night, I'll call you before I go to bed to hear "crème brûlée". Then I'll fall asleep and have sweet dreams. Hair Fetish Man 08:42, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
Ohh. That's cute. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 12:03, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

dungeon template and speed clears.

i'm happy now. Guide:Dungeon_Overview and Template:Dungeon_Build have been created, so all Dungeon builds are linked to a central hub (well, once I know people are happy with the idea and builds are tagged they will be), the dungeon overview clearly maps out what can be used where. Danny may (hopefully) be looking into adding a Speed Clears catagory to the main builds which I'd be pretty happy with, unless someones got a super genius idea instead. Consider this a poke to the necessary admins :p - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 02:26, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

looks good, better than tagging the all the dungeon builds as pve meta--Relyk 02:43, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


I had a dream that we sued anet for the hero builds and the Admin and BMs got hawt payouts. I used the money to enter a strange type of race, which had at least skiing, climbing and logic puzzles as part of it. Interesting. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 13:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

When you dream about GW Drama, I think it is a sign, not a good one either D; --Frosty Mc Admin 13:12, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
Meh, I was abandoned by my housemates, on the way home. walked for 30minutes by myself at 3am. Rather think of pvxdrama than that. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 13:16, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
shit happens when you have semi awkward histories with 3/5 housemates. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 14:55, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
I had a nightmare about a haunted house the other day <3 The thing is just that nightmares mostly make me laugh in joy. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 17:17, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

All my troubles seemed so far away, now it seems that they are here to stay, oh I believe in yesterday... Misery CowMisery Says Moo 15:16, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

gtfo nobody likes cows anyway. jk ^^ moo.Shadow of Darkness 18:00, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
"jk" again and I flame you <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

so, let me get this straight

1. A-net reasoned that Heroes were overpowered in GvG/HA (as everyone had known for ages) so decided to remove them.
2. Builds were to be replaced with henchmen builds which would be the outcome a competition. The competition was flawed for these reasons:

I. Players were instructed to make original builds and not to plagiarise yet many of the builds actually chosen are widely available on PvXWiki.

3. Not only was the competition flawed, the actual builds themselves have significant faults:

I. Either builds will not and cannot ever be played effectively by heroes. A significant number of builds were lifted from the current player meta builds.
II. Or, for those that can be played effectively by henchmen, heroes would have done just as well. Essentially this destroys the original reasoning for removing heroes.
III. All hero builds are from the current meta, instead of robust, highlighted by the fact they are all currently on PvX.

4. Future problems/questions that arise from this:

I. Players feel cheated after putting effort into finding new builds since the winners were generally run-of-the-mill player meta bars. The prizes hold significant in-game value.
II. Henchmen AI limitations and issues involving skill usage.
III. What will happen if/once we ever have a skill update?
IV. Players are skeptic over the time Anet spent creating and subsequently will be spending rectifying their decisions.
V. Questionable legality over copyrights

So this is it all from an outsiders point of view. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:14, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

c that about sums it up. When we have skill update all new hencies either become as useless as current zaishen henchies or they update hench bars?--TahiriVeila 19:17, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
I give it 2 skill updates (essentially 4 months on the new model....ugh) before the henchies are worthless and have to be rebalanced....although, they wont and we all know it. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 19:35, 5 October 2009
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