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To fill up your talk page...

Thanks for all the work in the PvP section. You really know your stuff! - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 09:43, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. I doubt I'll know much for much longer, though, since I've almost totally quit Guild Wars. Still occasionally get on and obs or AB, but that's about it. Still visit some GW-related forums, GWO(mainly the quite inactive pvp sections), guru, teamquitter, and also here, for various reasons(want to find out if anything happens that might make me want to play GW more again, need stuff to kill time, etc.) --Edru viransu 20:55, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

you should move your builds into testing =) - Skakid9090 22:34, 5 July 2007 (CEST)

There's already a working Grenth's Grasp ranger, and 10e cripshot makes Grenth's ranger probably even less worth losing condition removal. The gale dragonslash is one skill off from the vetted dragonslash, and it's hardly my build anyway, and, tbh, I haven't ever gotten around to testing it(when I do play GW, I usually just go ranger in AB(typically trapper or R/A cripshot(sig malice and recall)). My shattering assault team isn't even complete yet and probably won't be working when(if) I ever get around to finishing it. I'm considering adding some different flag runner builds, though. I'm not really sure if non-nearlypurely-defensive runners can work in the current meta. --Edru viransu 00:28, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

i share your hate for defensive runners (and the highly defensive meta). i love running a shatterstone runner, one of my favorite builds. - Skakid9090 04:53, 6 July 2007 (CEST)
One of the most enjoyable builds as a runner I've ever ran was a shatterstone runner E/Mo, didn't even have a heal, just a medium spec MTouch, GoLE, Attune, and quite a lot of snares. Was great fun. I absolutely hate running on Corrupted though( walk for 5 seconds to flag, walk for 5 seconds to stand, sit around for 8 minutes waiting for a chance to get past the ridiculously easy to execute bodyblock, cap, sit around mtouching people, snaring, go off to wand archers to death, and still have time to run another flag and cook an excellent three-course meal for several people before their flagger finally makes it through the bodyblock(severe exaggeration, but short run time + ridiculously easy total bodyblock of stand = boring flagging)), which is unfortunately the only place I got to run it.

I moved your build build:W/E Dwarven Conjure. Please read the site policies listed at the bottom of main page before creating builds. It will help mitigate and limit your frustraitions when we start correcting your aticle and preventing you from moving your build to trial or testing phases. I appreciate your contributions and look forward to seeing your work. Please ask us if you have any further questions. Shireensysop 08:46, 7 July 2007 (CEST) Clicked the wrong name. Sorry. Shireensysop 08:47, 7 July 2007 (CEST)


he removed my comments a bunch of times, i got sick of reverting. just ignore it - Skakid9090 21:46, 15 July 2007 (CEST)

Okay, then. --Edru viransu 21:47, 15 July 2007 (CEST)


I'm liking your new sig much better than the last one. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 08:13, 17 July 2007 (CEST)

That's not QQing. :P --Edru_viransu//QQ about me\\Things I've done. 08:19, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
The Sig!!! Whoaa! Isn't that length some violation of policy?! -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 02:48, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
You're right. Mean 800x600 resolution monitors don't want to see things I've done... --Edru_viransu//QQ about me\\Things I've done. 03:10, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
Dude, that's crazier than my Userpage!
What is? My sig? Or my having to shorten it? --Edru_viransu//QQ about me\\Things I've done. 03:23, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
Both. Your sig is UBER LONG! Bigger than mine... Or as my emo friend would say, 8--------BIG! lmfao that was a funny day. And btw, the 8 resembles roughly how many inches long each line is on my current settings. And you have about 4 or 5 of them... ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 03:26, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
How's this? --Edru_viransu//QQ about me 03:37, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
Passable. -Auron 03:51, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
Now I just need to figure out why it's not properly linking to my talk page... --Edru viransu//QQ about me 03:58, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
It is. You just can't see the link working because you're already on your talk page. Try previewing it in a sandbox. 04:06, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
Oh yeah. Thanks for reminding me about that. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:08, 18 July 2007 (CEST)


There's a reply to your comment in my sandbox.--Midnight08 08:40, 17 July 2007 (CEST)


Doesnt this look nicer? cleaned it up a bit User:Edru viransu Cleanup. --Midnight08 08:54, 17 July 2007 (CEST)

Wow, thanks. --Edru_viransu//QQ about me\\Things I've done. 09:02, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
Np at all, saw it needed some work and knew how to fix so figured i would. killin time watchin WWE anyway=P Gotta love DVR's--Midnight08 09:03, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
I see u used it, need my copy anymore? if not i'll clear it. --Midnight08 09:04, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
No, I don't need it anymore. --Edru_viransu//QQ about me\\Things I've done. 09:14, 17 July 2007 (CEST)

mini skill bars

this {{mini skill bar|Searing Flames|Glowing Gaze|Flame Djinn's Haste|Mark of Rodgort|Liquid Flame|Glyph of Lesser Energy|Fire Attunement|Draw Conditions}} becomes this

Searing Flames Glowing Gaze Flame Djinn's Haste Mark of Rodgort Liquid Flame Glyph of Lesser Energy Fire Attunement Draw Conditions

just change the skill names in the bars and youre set - Skakid9090 22:52, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 22:53, 19 July 2007 (CEST)


Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 21:35, 31 July 2007 (CEST)

Hope u don't mind if i copy/paste your the beginning of your userpage code to mine, since I share those tags. Lumpen 04:29, 2 August 2007 (CEST)

Feel free to. I think I stole most of them at least partially from someone else, anyway. :) --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:32, 2 August 2007 (CEST)


i liek used this in RA and got glad pint hoe can it not be gud? Skakid9090 19:52, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

Despite knowing that you're being sarcastic, I'm going to ignore that knowledge and respond as if I thought you were serious.
Firstly, it's RA. You can win with anything there. Secondly, even in (relatively) higher-level arenas, such as HA, good players can win with retarded builds(in fact, I know some people that have held halls with 8x Touch rangers and other ridiculous builds). --Edru viransu//QQ about me 22:42, 3 August 2007 (CEST)

im trying to earn my deer too, 29 fame and counting =P The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skakid9090 (contribs) . 00:26, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

I have about that. I'm not really trying to gain it, but I do want to get it at some point. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:32, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
Heh, don't worry. I am not hugely ranked, as I do not much like HA. I have done it a few times, for friends who needed Monks or a frontliner for their teams, but I generally try to avoid it when possible. Might join/create an HA guild in the future however :). Ya never know. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:17, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
Heh, that's mainly when I've done HA (at least, mainly when I've done HA for reasons other than being bored and having absolutely nothing else to do, so I join some random PUG). Ran a necro for an interesting deadly arts spike, once. Still wish I had paid attention to what skills the sins were using, beyond the one augury, the sometimes-used sig of toxic shock, and and dancing daggers. It killed stuff, is all I remember. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 07:22, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
I have run many interesting builds in HA, but HA involves less strat and more random killing. Kinda like AB. Did I mention I never do AB? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:26, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
AB iz fun. Then again, that may be because Cripshotting is inherently very fun, particularly if you stick stuff like Recall in your build. :) --Edru viransu//QQ about me 07:30, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
Expunge Enchantments is a shitload of fun in AB as well. Works great on stupid 55s that sometimes try to AB; works great on stupid OF tanks that sometimes try to AB; works great on stupid Shadow Form 'Sins that sometimes try to AB; and is quite funny when used on the previously mentioned Recall. Touch, wave goodbye, and "don't come back until you've figured out a different strategy!". --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 05:57, 8 August 2007 (CEST)


Although I'm not an avid GW player I do make a fair share off of farming, I wouldn't mind giving you a share of the items or cash for the things you intend to do. For example there's a stormbringer that's been wasting away in my bank for about 3 months now. About an easy 5k that can help you a bit. Wyvern 00:03, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

Stormbringer's worth 5k? I need to sell mine, then. I don't think I'm going to accept any "donations" or gifts until I start playing GW regularly again, though. However, if any of my(very-small) collection of things I don't want that are semi-valuable are something you might want to buy, that would be a great way to help me stop being poor, I suppose, as would giving some advice on farming that could be done without much investment needed with either my necro(can already farm minotaurs and griffons in the deserts, although I'm unsure if they're actually worth farming) or ritualist(can already do Rt/Me VwK farming with him, but don't really know what to farm with it). --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:19, 4 August 2007 (CEST)
I have no clue, err... I'll just harass you when I log on. But first, update downloads. Wyvern 00:30, 4 August 2007 (CEST)

WTB your hydra, are they still 15k? I don't know or care, that's my offer >:U Wyvern 04:39, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

Sure. I've no clue how much they're worth. I'll probably be on for the next 45 minutes, if you want to buy it tonight. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:44, 6 August 2007 (CEST)
Mmhmm, I'll be on in a jiffy (do people still use that word?). Just need to finish up one more edit. Oh and you're still getting that fungal wallow, whether you want it or not. Wyvern 04:46, 6 August 2007 (CEST)

What a coincidence, I farm warrior enemies in my spare time. I'll send you any tomes that drop, not like I have a warrior. Wyvern 01:08, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

Cool, thanks. By the way, do you have any clue about how much a Crippling req 10 15^50 shadow blade with +30 fortitude on it is worth? --Edru viransu//QQ about me 01:13, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
Sorry pal but I know absolutely nothing about prices, that's why every time I get a item I wind up just having my friend sell it and give him 25% of the profit. Hopefully someone can help you out, but if you're thinking about creating one I'll keep an eye out for those mods. Wyvern 06:42, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
I've got one I don't use anymore. Don't know how much it would cost though. —ǥȓɩηɔɧ/〛 07:17, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
Inscrib? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:20, 9 August 2007 (CEST)
Nope, I got in the FoW. —ǥȓɩηɔɧ/〛 07:31, 9 August 2007 (CEST)

Uh, I have a q10 inscrib fellblade for you to buy... I need cash wanna get back my kuuny >.< I miss it already after buying a colossal >.> Anyways PM me ingame, ill drop the price by like 10k for you lol-- 06:39, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

I've got all the swords I need, actually. Sorry. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 06:42, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

k, np I just wanted to sell it off >.<--Shadow Sin 06:46, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

Thank You For Welcoming Me

I do appreciate the warm welcome lol. Already a user on GuildWiki (and found it kinda irritating that I had to re-sign up for this site as well) but oh well. Isk8 05:19, 5 August 2007 (CEST)

  • And also thanks for fixing the link in my page lol. Html is not my strong-point. Isk8 15:27, 5 August 2007 (CEST)
No problem, it's not html, mostly, that one would be using here, anyway. You might want to look at Help:Formatting to get an idea of how to do stuff with wikicode. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 21:28, 5 August 2007 (CEST)


On this build you said it has no deep wound. This is easy to confuse, but you can use impale because it is a skill, not a spell. Please change your rating, and thanks. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 15:39, 7 August 2007 (CEST)

You'd think I would've realized that... :/ The build's still bad, though, but slightly less bad. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 22:19, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
actually the build is really good. It is great at taking down monks in smaller arenas, as typically there is only one. You spike them down like nothin. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 22:21, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
This is because most monks in smaller arenas are bad and don't know how to preveil. Builds that rely on the enemy being bad are bad, imo. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:11, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
Hero battles is good, cuz monks are dum ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 23:16, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
I don't play Hero Battles. If I want obsessive micromanagement, I'll play Starcraft or some other RTS. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:29, 7 August 2007 (CEST)
Starcraft >other RTS games The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Skakid9090. 09:07, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
GOLIATH ONLINE —ǥȓɩηɔɧ/〛 09:28, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
Battlecruiser Operational. OWAIT -Auron 10:01, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
●█〓██▄▄▄▄▄▄----● >>1
IDENTIFY TARGET —ǥȓɩηɔɧ/〛 10:04, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
Battlefield 2142! Try playing as the Commander for a round in that game. If you can finish a round on a 64-man server without at least one guy yelling at you for being an idiot who can't command, then you're a success. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 20:34, 11 August 2007 (CEST)


Most everyone there are nubs. The one's that aren't, say little to nothing (ex:Auron :P). Some guy tried to argue the point Signet of Illusions isn't baed. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:45, 11 August 2007 (CEST)

Signet of Illusions Mantra of Persistence Ice Spikes Arcane Larceny Arcane Thievery Inspired Hex Inspired Enchantment Arcane Mimicry
Aha! See how awesome that build is? This build puts the "Random" in "Random Arenas", my friend. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 20:47, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
Does MoP affected SoI'ed hexes? --Edru viransu//QQ about me 21:06, 11 August 2007 (CEST)
Dunno... there's already a few bugs with SoI, so it's iffy. Testing that out is going to be my excuse for wasting 3k faction on the Signet... --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 08:13, 12 August 2007 (CEST)
It doesn't. The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Skakid9090. 08:14, 12 August 2007 (CEST)
I'm going to ignore that and unlock the skill anyway. Can't go unlocking the skill without an excuse. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 08:19, 12 August 2007 (CEST)


I'll be onlines later. Have +30 sword pommel. Will sell. See sig for IGN. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 17:34, 13 August 2007 (CEST)

Flail on Hammer Warriors

Here we go with a game mechanics question: I've always been more into sword and axe on PvP builds and have only now been getting into hammers. Since you seem to be the resident expert on hammer warrior builds (having contributed most if not all excellent rated PvP hammers), I was wondering if you could help me out with trying to understand why so many hammer warriors run flail instead of frenzy. Flail is fine for PvE in my experience (it's not as if there are humans anticipating a spike, or as if speed matters), but for PvP the fact that you have to hit one more time to engage the spike and the resulting failure to chase kiters makes me a bit confused as to why it's used over frenzy. Given the standard DH bar, I would suspect what people do is:

DH --> flail --> crushing --> mighty blow --> rush --> bull's

Is this correct? It seems fine for spikes and such, but why would people prefer not to use frenzy to help build up their adrenaline in between spikes? Thanks in advance. -Kaelor 18:59, 14 August 2007 (CEST)

That is how you spike with flail. kd-flail-crushing-whatever you want to follow up with. Frenzy is superior for adrenaline building, but does somewhat make energy management difficult(zealous is quite meh on hammers). With 2 pips of regen, you get 10 energy per 15 seconds. When I run a hammer warrior, I'm usually hitting bulls/elite-crushing-mighty at least that often. With frenzy, you're going to be able to spike at most that often, and not going to be able to afford to use frenzy for adrenaline building at all. Also, hammers aren't very hard to spike without a shield, and frenzy makes them even more vulnerable. I prefer Flail usually. On a pure spiking bar, I'd probably run frenzy, but for versatility, I usually run flail on hammers, because it doesn't interfere with my playstyle with a hammer(run around hitting stuff a lot and taking any opportunity I can to unleash a bull's/deva hammer/earth shaker/back breaker-crushing-mighty "spike"). Some people better at energy management or with different playstyles might prefer Frenzy though. I know that some top-level hammer warriors prefer Flail, and most hammers I see on obs are usually running flail, though. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:49, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
People run flail, because there is no reason not to. Hammer-spikes are expensive, and thus Echarge is a favorite. Since Echarge is so good, you can't have frenzy, as there is no way to cancel. Thus, Flail has great synergy, not only with ECharge but KD-lock. I prefer when running Earthshaker, to Echarge<Flail<Bull's til Echarge rec (If I brought it)<Renew<Flail<Echarge<Flail<Earth<Crush<Prot<Hammer. Ofc, I am not the great hammer war, but just me trying to be helpful ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:36, 15 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks. Due to unfortunate circumstances, I won't be playing Guild Wars much, but I'll try the flail thing on a hammer warrior soon. -Kaelor 16:46, 16 August 2007 (CEST)


If you've got MSN messenger and you've got a little bit of time (I'll be on for another half hour or so), could you please sign in and message me? Thanks in advance. Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 01:00, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

Congrats Edru =). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:37, 15 August 2007 (CEST)


Please get inside our channel. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ/〛 02:27, 15 August 2007 (CEST)

Pure Genius

Let's make a cereal after you and call them Edru's, the slogan will be "iz gud", it's genius. But I'm nice enough to let you do everything else, what with all the patents, costs, and possible lawsuits that may endanger you and your family's wellbeing. Questions, comments? Wyvern 08:39, 17 August 2007 (CEST)

I will add this to my list of business ventures, artistic and literary works, and other things I intend to do. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 14:06, 17 August 2007 (CEST)

PLeak Asdfg 00:41, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

That's blunt. I like it. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 00:41, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Oh, sorry, about that. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:45, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
No problem. But could you revert your revert? I'm a noob at reverting, I always mess things up. Asdfg 00:45, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Krowman fixed it already. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:51, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

bill nye the science guy

grats ! — Skakid9090 00:58, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

lol, thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 00:59, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

?? -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 05:01, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

i said grats for him being made an admin. — Skakid9090 05:20, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
bill nye? -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:09, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

New admin

Grats :) -Auron 01:09, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. Now to get to work deleting/moving to trash builds with their grace period expired. :) --Edru viransu//QQ about me 01:13, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
hhippo and/or gc are working on something that does that automatically iirc — Skakid9090 01:14, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Isn't working yet, might as well clear it out by hand. -Auron 01:15, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
We do not plan some kind of watchdog that keeps deleting builds automatically. One reason is that a script can't judge what's going on on the talk page, e.g. if a user wants the build to be moved to his user space. There is, however, a script that can delete all grace-expired builds that have no ratings and no talk page. I will do some tests and probably run that script this weekend. It will catch about half of the currently grace-expired builds. And btw: welcome to the team, Edru! – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 12:54, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
The script is through now. 213 builds remain for manual inspection, that's 21 for each admin... – HHHIPPO ‹sysop› 23:44, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks for the welcome. I must've somehow not noticed your welcoming earlier. :/ --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:49, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

Congrats. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 01:26, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 02:35, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
I totally owned you guys. I said congrats what, 2 days ago :P? Anyway, congrats again. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:59, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 03:03, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

gratz Edru! have a good time cleaning up stuff, welcoming people to the wiki, tagging bad builds, warning bad users, and doing all of these very funny chores while we get bored posting the same mo/e with meteor shower! :P :P gratz again :) --Jim Eno 03:12, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

lol, thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 03:17, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Late congrats. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 03:26, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 03:29, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

About damn time! Now get crackin! Yes, that's my way of saying congrats. :P -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 04:23, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:25, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Congratulations! —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 04:29, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 04:34, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Late congratulations. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 04:58, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 05:00, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Tired, eh? You're welcome ;p -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 05:01, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Even later congratulations Wyvern 08:26, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 08:30, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Oh come on now that was just ctrl + v, I need constant spontaneous attention or I fall asleep, good night my good sir, I'll bother you tomorrow. Wyvern 08:35, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
That is an outrageous accusation. I'll have you know that here at Edru Viransu's Barely-Conscious Utterances of Gratitude, we hand-type all of our Utterances ourselves. I should go to bed. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 08:40, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
I heard that you started using imported Utterances. Confirm/deny? -Auron 08:50, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
My client is not obliged to answer any questions. — Skakid9090 08:56, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Oh, no, Skakid's evidently my attorney... I'm going to jail... -_- :P --Edru viransu//QQ about me 09:00, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
No worries, they won't prosecute people that only got one or two of the duped Utterances... if you've got a few stacks, you might want to ditch the evidence, though.
Oh, yea, congrats and all that too. Was too busy trolling to congratulate you... --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 09:07, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 20:47, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

I believe mine are the latest. Signet of DisruptionRawrawr Dinosaur \m/ 11:42, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 20:47, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Welcoming new users to the wiki eh? May I have your opinion on this? Thanks in advance. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:11, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Grats Edru! (Dang I'm late.) LavaEdge324 20:32, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 20:47, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

GZ from me too, even though i dun know you lol--Iwan13talk 20:44, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Thanks. :P --Edru viransu//QQ about me 20:47, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
...h8! Wyvern 23:36, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Hate? /gasp I'm horribly offended! I'm going to go cry and /wrists, now that you've permanently scarred my mind like this. :P --Edru viransu//QQ about me 23:39, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Bleh, school, wait, what is this? I come back to find Sarcasm? On teh intarwebz?! This is salt in my wounds, SALT IN MY WOUNDS! Moar h8! btw, ur tlk page needs moar bad grammar & spelling b4 teh archive Wyvern 21:05, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Question to an Admin

I know the whole deal of deleting Builds is to get rid of them forever. However, is there some way you can retrieve certain Builds? Asdfg 01:29, 18 August 2007 (CEST)

Yes, we can do that for you. ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 01:30, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Well, there was a W/Any Utility Sword that got deleted when the Grace Period Expired Policy was introduced. Could you retrieve that? Asdfg 01:32, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Is that the exact name? I don't see anything there. ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 01:34, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
I think that this was the exact name. It was a basic Sword Template with no Elite skill. I think it got carried over from gwiki. Skills were Sever, Gash, Final,Optional, some skill I dont remember Frenzy, Sprint, Res. It also featured a whole list of possible Elite Skills that fit in there.Asdfg 01:37, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Yea... I'm not seeing it, sorry. There was a recent build called 'liteless something or another. I could try to find that for you. ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 01:40, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
No, I'm pretty sure it wasnt called 'liteless something. Is there a list of deleted Build where I could look for myself? I'm sure I remember the name if I see it again. Asdfg 01:44, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
Special:Log/delete. Unfortunately, that link is orgonized by date of deletion. ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 01:49, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
  1. 22:33, 15 July 2007 Hhhipbot (Talk | contribs) deleted "Build:W/any Utility Warrior" (Deleting old unfavored builds) Could you restore this? If you need a place to dump this, just dump it somewhere on my userpage. Much apprecciated.Asdfg 01:53, 18 August 2007 (CEST)
It's now at User:Asdfg/Utility. ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 02:04, 18 August 2007 (CEST)


Moved to Build_talk:E/Me Shatterstone Vapor Spike

Drop and roll. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 04:00, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

Signing off randomly

Dad was coming and I didn't want him to see me talking on MSN. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 04:00, 19 August 2007 (CEST)

 :/...and what is wrong with talking on MSN? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:04, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
He's russian. Duh. Who knows, he could be exchanging critical military technology with the Americans. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 04:06, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
More like filling out rebates. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 05:41, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Worst then selling out to the scum! I have my eye on you! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:43, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
It's true, and in 4-8 weeks I'll have 4500 smackers in my pocket that I'll spend on 4500 cheap floozies as I laugh at you all then and now. Ha! Haha! Watch me type my feeling of laughter! Hahahaha! —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 05:45, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
And when I thought you couldn't sicken me to any greater extent, you tease me with the thought of cheap floozie. Hang your head in shame! /shame Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:47, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
It's floozy. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 05:50, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
/Shame none the less LOL! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:00, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Also, watch4aids ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:02, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Sounds like someone made a bad experience. :D Asdfg 06:06, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
Too late. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ//Д 06:06, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
FYI, if you click that link there, you'll notice that both Floozy and Floozie are on the list as variations of the same definition. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 10:00, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
The preceding comment was brought to you by the leetness of Jioruji Derako. a.k.a. u got served. Nova did not write this comment.
Awesome. Could you do me a favor and post that same comment on every one of my previous contributions? I really think it would help my overall image. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 23:33, 19 August 2007 (CEST)
The proper way to type it is floozy. I know. I've been around the block. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ/ 01:22, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
There are some things best left unsaid. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 01:40, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
Better, Jioruji? User and Build Talks, max 1 per page, and just the majority of the pages, left out some cuz i was lazy. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 01:58, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
whaaaaaaaaaaaat mgrinshpon? zzz -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 02:02, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
(Reseting indent) Thanks a bunch, Nova. Now no-one can ever accuse you of not being a great contributor to this wiki! Nova for admin. (or sidekick.) --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 02:06, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
And watch as the wtf's roll in. :D -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 03:08, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
Np Jioruji, after all, I owe you after you made my leet sig pic. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 03:09, 20 August 2007 (CEST)
Indeed, and I was hoping to have that over your head for a while to come, but now you've gone and evened the score. :P Hell, you confused Rapta with that so far as well, I might owe you now. --GEO-logo Jioruji Derako.> 03:49, 20 August 2007 (CEST)

As Skakid Might Say

--Defiant Elements Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 00:56, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

lol. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 01:07, 22 August 2007 (CEST)
<3 DE — Skakid9090 01:08, 22 August 2007 (CEST)
Quoting Skakid...what has happened to the screwed up world I once knew...o wait, still screwed, just quoting Skak now. My bad :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:21, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Author Voting

As the paragraph about author voting and vote removal (PvXwiki:Real Vetting) seems to be new, I have to admit that I voted for all my own builds due to the fact that back then it wasn't quite clear whether it was forbidden or not. See my build link in my signature for the builds that are affected. Shall I remove all my votes from them or do they get removed? — Ranger-iconLuobailong ···talk ···builds 10:56, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

I'll remove them. Depending on outcome of the policy discussion, you can revote or not. Also, please give your thoughts on the matter in PvX:Real Vetting's talk. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲŞƳŞŌƤ 10:59, 22 August 2007 (CEST)
On second thought, nah. With the way the discussion is headed, author voting is not an issue. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲŞƳŞŌƤ 11:02, 22 August 2007 (CEST)
lol ^.^ — Ranger-iconLuobailong ···talk ···builds 11:14, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

Well.. since Fvrwfr(spellcheck?) removed my vote, it told me I was unable to vote on it, so I just deleted it. I've been testing the Moebius and Elemental farmer builds, but so far neither seem to be as effective. I'm willing to pin it on my misuse or misunderstanding of the builds, though. Plus, after a bit of in-guild testing, it quickly came to my realization that Dervishes can solo Shiro without so much as blinking if done right, in both Factions and Nightfall. Thanks for the heads up about the voting thing though. cedave(contributions_buildpage) 23:54, 22 August 2007 (CEST)

You can just click edit on your vote and revote it without modification. Editing undos vote removal. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 01:21, 23 August 2007 (CEST)


I fixed it. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:02, 23 August 2007 (CEST)

I know. that's why I'm not trying to figure out what was going wrong. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 05:04, 23 August 2007 (CEST)
Okay, just didn't know if you was show previewing a lot lol. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (T/C/Sysop) 05:06, 23 August 2007 (CEST)

Block of IP

Nah man you don't want to do him for just 3 days, give the prick a week for mass vandalism, you have to be harsh on vandalising arseholes. Well, that's my opinion of it anyways, don't know about Tim. xP ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:44, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

Well, 3 day ban now means that he gets unbanned sooner, meaning we find out if he'll repeat it sooner, which means we get to ban him permanently sooner. :P Besides, it's a nice prime number. 7 days is a violent prime number. If he's going to vandalize once he gets unbanned, it doesn't really matter whether it happens in three days or a week, basically. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 01:48, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
I see your logic. Good plan. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:49, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

He did, as I would have done. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:46, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

Just 3 days? Isn't that a little TOO lenient for vandalising a good 5 or 6 pages? ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:47, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
Nah. I would have given him a warning before blocking him, even if he was fully aware of what he was doing. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 02:10, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
To be honest I feel this is the ONLY bad thing about PvX. You are all too soft on deliberate offenders/arseholes. Sure, I come from FacePunch where anyone who says stuff like 'Dipshit' will get straight away 24 hour banned on the first offence, and perma'd at the slightest drop of a hat, and that is overly harsh. I suppose I'm just used to people bringing down the hammer hard. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 02:22, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
I brought the hammer down on myself once. Turns out I can unblock myself even while I'm currently blocked. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 02:50, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
See the thing is, most 3 day banned people don't seem to come back afterwords. (at least, not to vandalize agian) ‽-(єяøהħ) no u 02:58, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
I normally would give a warning before banning, but that would have just allowed him to vandalize more pages. One doesn't remove the key portion of multiple pages unintentionally or without knowing that what one is doing is malicious wrongdoing. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 04:24, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

Don't worry, I fully understand the logic in your approach now, it makes sense. It's good that we haven't got any 'serious' vandals yet that just keep returning to mess us up. Touchwood... x/ ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 13:42, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

IMO the three day ban *is* the warning. If they're stupid enough to come back after that, they get longer bans. As for serious vandals - let me refer you to the night some IP made five accounts and started vandalizing. Took a bit, but he's out of the picture. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 22:16, 27 August 2007 (CEST)


I'm currently undoing the edits, but if possible, could you just revert it? The undo thing's taking a bit long. cedave(contributions_buildpage) 22:54, 26 August 2007 (CEST)

I returned it to the last edit by you. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 22:58, 26 August 2007 (CEST)
Thanks much. I saw on the IP's talk page that this guy seems to be a problem recently. Must be fun for you guys. >.> cedave(contributions_buildpage) 23:05, 26 August 2007 (CEST)


lolwut? Linkin Park 01:15, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

less vandalism?

What are you talking about? I havent edited anything besides my userpage in the past month...plz explain what you mean by "less vandalism". --Theupstandingbob 03:09, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

Hmm... I must've clicked the wrong link. Sorry about that. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 03:24, 28 August 2007 (CEST)

its all good. mistakes happen =]--Theupstandingbob 12:35, 28 August 2007 (CEST)


Were you at HB earlier? I'm sure your name popped up there, but you didn't join =[ I was hoping for an interesting battle with you. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:36, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

I am at HB atm. Euro English district 1(Despite being American, I go to euro districts because less people = less lag). I'm running a pretty retarded build because I don't want to unlock Reverse Hex, Wanderlust, Razah, Corrupt Enchant, or Heal as One atm. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 01:41, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
Just owned 5 peeps in a row with my build. Just did my first rated and won. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 02:02, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

lol, Edru HB :P Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:37, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Scratch that, 10 win streak now, LOTS of faction. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 02:06, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

you can take the edru off that readem. — Skakid9090 02:07, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Hell, I managed to win with some pretty retarded builds myself... what exactly were you running, Edru? ...FYI, my team was myself as a Paragon, running Anthem of Fury, GftE!, and some other stuff; General Morgahn, as a support/Motivation Paragon running the Restoration chants and whatnot; Goren and Koss, both running Earth Shaker Hammer builds (lots and lots of adrenaline stuff). Completely steamrolls most teams, as everyone's pretty much at perpetual full adrenaline and pounding out KD after KD, with a critical hit off two Hammers and two Spears every few seconds. Really fun to play. --GEO-logo Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 16:19, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Such things as pblock mes, cruel spear r/p(with troll unguent, lol), n/rt with hexes, no elite and spirits, the retarded monk most people run except without reverse. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 17:36, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
Nifty. Try a pure assault team sometime, they're pretty fun, and normally roll right over a lot of teams focusing on defense and not enough offense. Heros can figure out two major battle plans; heal everything and kill everything. I prefer the latter, myself. :P --GEO-logo Ĵĩôřũĵĩ Đēŗāķō.>.cнаt^ 17:59, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Build help

I've written a build and its on my user's discussion page, and i have no idea of how to move it to the Trial Phase. So if you could help me out, thank.Jak123X 07:32, 30 August 2007 (CEST)


I really, really should. But its mainly tiyuri and shawn i disagree with, i like david. w/e the problem is i talk before i think and in a forum that problem gets pretty awful.Dark0805|Rant 18:00, 30 August 2007 (CEST)

Tiyuri and shawn are both people that if you disagree with them about PvP, you're quite likely wrong. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 20:39, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
Pretty much. Well shawn i try to agree with but he usually refutes what i say. i still like to see what he has to say. tiyuri just hates me.Dark0805|Rant 21:10, 30 August 2007 (CEST)
Tbh, I'm pretty certain I've never seen Tiy disagree with David about anything concerning the quality of a skill/build/tactic/etc. in the game. She and Shawn are also both people with extensive experience in all levels of PvP(except HB, but that's PvE, anyway(and Tiyuri does win when se play it, while afk)). They don't really seem to dislike you, but rather more find you amusing(I've probably seen more quotes added of you to the the "gwonline quotes" command on Tiy's IRC bot than of anyone else). If any of this sounds like an insult, I'm sorry. I'm certainly not intending it to. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:33, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
Not insulted at all. I talk before i think so i deserve to be made fun of by them. But when did i say tiy and dave disagree? I like dave.Dark0805|Rant 01:10, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

Go QQ. They usually talk about lesbians and shit, but worth a try. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:09, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

What? I rarely visit QQ forums. The edrama's pretty uninteresting most of the time, and the amazing gems of insight into the game are quite rare. That's also quite unrelated, as far as I can tell to what we've been talking about... Also, GWO has lesbians and talk about them, as well. GWO is also much more amusing. --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 00:33, 31 August 2007 (CEST)
lol, they are PvP whores tho. Finger licking good lol, jk. I don't have time for peoples bs atm. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:35, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

War non-elite tomes

I can farm them. My IGN is Hellbringer Kill (my most played character). You can bargain with me because my war is starting to get set with non elites. --Hellbringer 00:15, 31 August 2007 (CEST)

Nerf bat this

Team - Shocking Nukers gogogo plz move for great justice! Btw you need archive- 66 kb. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 06:17, 1 September 2007 (CEST)


Just got done doing Darkrime Delves with a guildie and a friend. Got an onyx gemstone and about 2k worth of drops. Was quite fun. Probably going to spend more of the weekend doing dungeons than playing the primary quests. lol I'm considering getting either a White Moa or a Raven just to look cool. Which should I get? --Edru viransu//QQ about me/sysop 09:52, 1 September 2007 (CEST)

Get this: Asdfg 13:20, 1 September 2007 (CEST)
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