First <3 ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:47, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Dear niggerspic. Why did you msnblock me this time? I really don't know.--TahiriVeila 20:07, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


I would hardly call 10-9 overwhelming support --Frosty Frostcharge 01:55, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

you should be asleep. and i was up 8-1 at one point iirc, with misery and you and some others. then it was like me blowing up at infidel and it going downhill :>Gringo 02:04, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Been playing mw2 on the shitty p2p system that is shit. me and 5 friends vs 6 americans connected to one of their PC's gfg, still won 2/3 games before deciding lag wins. --Frosty Frostcharge 02:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
fly to america for lan party. Gringo 02:10, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
No I am an honoUrable Brit, and I find it favoUrable to stay in England. Playing at a time when Americans will be online is not helpful. Need to play more at noon. --Frosty Frostcharge 02:43, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Also to think people have been playing like this on consoles on other games makes me sad, it's so bad, need dedi servers for consoles. --Frosty Frostcharge 02:47, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Fucking "u's" in random places. God bless Webster for being a complete douche and just removing them. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 04:23, 13 November 2009


To remind you to add variant to balance Exo Oo 18:11, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, LJ, why haven't you voted against me in my RfA yet? I figured you, X, and pika would be the guys who'd vote against me. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 18:13, 13 November 2009
Why would I vote against something because of who made it? :S That's a bit sad. And LJ is nice. it's what most people call me Exo Oo 18:19, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Um...wut? Go back and re-read what I said. I think you missed it. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 18:19, 13 November 2009
I have no idea what RfA. So assumed it was a build or something Exo Oo 18:23, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, it's a Request for adminship :D Karate KJ for sig Jesus 18:27, 13 November 2009
I would prefer if you stop associating me with others. Still can't beleive you lable me as such.----X 18:53, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I didn't. I just said that I thought you three would definitely vote against me. And so far, I'm right. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 18:56, 13 November 2009
iirc KJ "might" have been quite an asshole towards you ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
I was pretty assholish towards X. But tbh, I kinda like him now. Short of not being able to understand him sometimes, he seems like a cool guy. But....I still figured him, LJ, and Pika would vote against me. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 19:12, 13 November 2009
Why would I care enough to vote against you? Exo Oo 19:15, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Because mostly everyone is a bitch toward you, so you'd figure those people as unfit for being admins, due to being assholes. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:20, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
So how would one of them being an admin affect me at all? Exo Oo 19:35, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Wow. Like, say, take bad care of the site, hand bans out for fun? I'm sure you're like target #1 for that ;o ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:48, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Ups I just deletefested the main page? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:52, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't mean I care lol. I'm hardly going to cry. I'd just to maths on a school night instead Exo Oo 19:53, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
Weirdo, PvX is your life, bitch.. but why the hell is this on Saint's page? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:21, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Made the build page Exo Oo 16:56, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


Ups. I was drinking last night so I'll try and explain a little myself better. I think it's very odd that you find a problem with a reasonable variation in votes on builds. Variation is usually justifiable - there's enough random factors that can affect a voter's opinion of a build. There really isn't an 'absolute' build score because it's subjective to how and where you play, who you play with and your prerequisite knowledge of the particular theorycraft. The majority of builds in the Good category exist because they're a combination of people who find it very good and some who find it mediocre, for whatever reason.

I said variation is often justifiable, but there is a problem in that vote removal is also often justifiable. If you were being really pedantic and removed all votes that don't give proper justifications of scoring then probably about 80% of the PvE section would be back in testing. This is the 'correct' things to do, but it is also obviously retarded, especially considering that things stay in testing for months. The problem is that it gives certain people, still sour from their failed RfBM, a reason to bitch.

Due to the above, as far as I'm concerned, if something appears in the right category, then the votes are fine. This particular build I think was correctly placed before votes were removed (which happened because, like i said, vote removal is mostly often justified) and slapped back into Testing where no one will ever look at it again.

You're welcome to bitch about more votes but don't expect me to remove any which fall in the above category.

- AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 12:52, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Me trying to help by putting a build in the correct category is not "bitching". It's just that, me trying to help. How would i know if it should be in Good? I don't pve and no smart people voted on it vote on pve builds. Also you saying things like "you wont get bm get over it" is kind of funny coming from someone whos been on the site 6 months and is already inactive after 2-4 months of being a BM. The difference between us was i asked for my BM to be revoked when i left guild wars, and you seem to be on a high and mighty horse just because you kept yours? Thaz funny woman. Gringo 16:47, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Oh and usually farming builds either work or they don't, so that's why i thought it should either be in Great or Trash. I think its the case here, but im not good enough at pve (i sure wish i was, it takes so much skill !) Gringo 16:50, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
(EC)Lau, I know you dislike Saint, but stop trying to find something bad to point out in everything he does. He means well, tho I do agree that a vote variation between 3-5 isn't worth thinking that much about. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 17:04, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
3 is trash, 5 is great. I figured it was one or the other. Maybe shes PMSing. Gringo 17:05, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Haha, I love the quote that was neither paraphased or relating to anything I said. I didn't realise you were so sore about the whole BM thing. So cute. I'm inactive in Guild Wars because a large amount of my friends moved to Aion and being in the midst of exam year at uni meant I didn't really want to start a grindfest. I'm inactive here because we've had about 1 significant skill update in the last 3 months and therefore very little to actually do. If there's anything for me to be 'mighty' about, possibly not childishly 'ragequitting' a handful of times is a good place to start.
The ideas you have about things are pretty amusing. You're very right in saying PvE is easy, but then you go on to fail miserably at identifying what this actually means. In farming things either work or don't is a true statement but this is actually only the part that differentiates them from being trashed or not. You then go on to rate them for effectiveness (you know that whole voting system we got here?) which rate them on things like speed, ease of use, ease of setting up, character class. Good means it works, but there is (probably) a better, quicker, more efficient and effective way of doing it. You don't need me to tell you these things, this is pretty obvious stuff.
- AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 17:49, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
a wall of text to say "im busy, its inferior to another build." last i checked we don't keep inferior builds, so how would i know that it was inferior to another build? Gringo 18:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Not that your wall of text said much more. When talking about solo builds, something must hold profession specific superiority, otherwise i don't see you can justify removing the 'weaker' build (unless the other one really is something special). Hence the reason why there's numberous FoW and UW solo farming builds inhabiting both categories. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 19:19, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
i guess you don't know what a wall is. next time you write a book on my talk, try and make it more important, and not bitching me out for trying to help the pve section. cheers cunt. <3 Gringo 19:39, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Apologies about your inability to comprehend the fact you're just wasting peoples' time by even posting on the AN. 19:43, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Lau, it's not a waste of time. Leave him alone and come back when you can be constructive. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:52, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Kids :< be nice. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:45, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

^ Karate KJ for sig Jesus 19:47, 14 November 2009
Chaos, this is their conversation. Maybe we should leave them to it. One statement reminding them to be civil was enough. No need to jump in here and call people out on shit (they're doing that well enough to each other). Karate KJ for sig Jesus 19:57, 14 November 2009
But I'm doing it for the best of mankind! Fair enough. I hope my point gets through. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 20:05, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Chaos is right though, shes acting like i did something wrong, which i didn't. She's just a grouch who needs to go find a can to live in. Gringo 21:27, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Cute story. Scroll up slightly and you'll see him agreeing this case was pretty much a waste of time. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 21:51, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
I am capable of seeing both part's point of view without being against the other ;o
Also lol to carry on with the argument, Saint :S ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:58, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
im really not trying to carry on an argument, shes trying to argue now whos side chaos is on, in an argument over votes on a pve build. its deteriorated into a shitfest, from the time she came on my talk to troll me, and now she won't leave because shes a woman who won't shut up. one of the many defects of their kind. also weak arms. Gringo 22:00, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
I clearly stated why I started thisWhat kind of shitter turns a regular argument into a shitfest of personal insult. Oh wait. That was you. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 22:12, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Blah blah blah blah blah. Halts maul. --Crow 22:02, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I say. Nice wall of text you have thar. --Naoroji 22:14, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
ty for proving my point that women never know when to stop. you can stop flaming now. Gringo 22:15, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Haha, so cute! men always abruptly end things early. shaamee. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 22:30, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
Only for the ugly ones. Gringo 22:58, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


Saintwat Thunda Sig 2Pimpstronghand 07:01, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

im actually friends with a Hero which is weird, but no its not me, haven't logged in 5 days. Gringo 17:40, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


I'm sick of trolling autists, so I posted on AN --forgive 21:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

There were 3 AN posts in a row, so it....seems like everyone is just complaining. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 21:24, 18 November 2009
Who gave you the right to call anyone an autist? NPA more, nigger. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:18, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
who the fuck are you? --AngelusEvertonangelus 22:22, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
@danny bad troll.
@angelus i think hes Jjberks. Gringo 22:44, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
ahhh figures why i thought he was a faggot. --AngelusEvertonangelus 22:45, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
What have I ever done to you? --Forgive 02:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Saint, you're supposed to use the X/10 system. For example, 4/10 for that one. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:50, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
your birth was a 1/10. amidoingitrite. Gringo 22:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
d. my birth was an excellent example of trolling. you are so bad at this. :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:55, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
ill take lessons on being a fag from thunda. Gringo 22:56, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
thunda's mouth is oh-so-sensual when it's wrapped around my cock. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:03, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
You suck my dick you faggot :< Thunda Sig 2Pimpstronghand 23:05, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

/popcorn --TahiriVeila 23:04, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

^. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 09:14, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'm tired of seeing you and Chaos drag this pissing fight all over the wiki (not singling you out, btw). Talk to him on MSN or use each others' talk pages to get this out of your systems or you can both take a break. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 19:37, 19 November 2009

Dear Saint

Why so mean? PvX:CHILL n' stuff, really. If I've acted wrong in something, level-headed as you are, I think you should be able to present your argument without using an offensive tone and the word "idiot" all too much. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:37, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

look if you dont act like an idiot, i won't call you an idiot, and that will be the end of the matter. Gringo 19:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Yet I have proved you wrong in every single case you called me an idiot in. I have only made arguments you can't prove wrong and taken into account the opinions + arguments of all parts in the different matters, yet you persist with making ad hominems. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 19:48, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
lol ok. Gringo 19:51, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
oh also, ur an idiot. Gringo 19:51, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

PC Shit

Ok so i had a video card (zotac geforce 8800gt) for a long time, but it never worked so ive been using integrated graphics for 2 years. My brother just sent me a new video card (in hopes that the other one was just busted), its Foxconn Geforce 7600 Series, and it still doesn't work. When i boot i get a black screen, so far no audio from what i can tell. It just chills on the black screen without doing shit. Im not sure if my computer even sees it (im starting to think its the port), so how can i tell? I was looking through new hardware or whatever and didn't see it. Gringo 17:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Is it AGP or what? I would check the BIOS and see.----X 20:13, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
I would get a new fucking computer, all this talk of 7 series and 8 series is making me feel old already. --Frosty Frostcharge 21:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
only my mobo is old. Gringo 21:05, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
If your motherboard is old it just wont support new graphics cards Rawrawr Dinosaur 21:32, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Black Friday is coming could probably get a decent comp (or mobo) for a decent price. Karate KJ for sig Jesus 21:37, 20 November 2009

yea but i have 0 dollars at this moment. i just want to see if the port can see the damn card. Gringo 22:10, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
Then check your damn bois----X 00:14, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

what's the motherboard you're working on? ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:51, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

thats the issue, i can't remember. where on my pc can i check. also, where to look in bios for pcie slot? im not a pc person. Gringo 17:33, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
upon boot up hit F12, del, F2...whatever button shows upon boot up. It says when you boot----X 20:30, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
i know how to get into bios -.-' i can't find it in bios. i see sata not pcie. Gringo 21:09, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
lol. pcie is not in your bios. it is on your motherboard. there are horizontal slots, one of which your old video card is/was plugged into. this should help you out a bit. if none of the slots look like that, you need a new motherboard. ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:13, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
sigh i know what a pcie port is danny, X was saying "look in your bios to see if the pc can see your video card". i tested a different video card and it doesnt work either, so i guess the port is dead and i need a new mobo. 04:25, November 24, 2009 (UTC)
Just for fun, rub your feet on the carpet then touch your motherboard. That usually fixes things. :> ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:35, November 24, 2009 (UTC)


did you ignore list me ingame or are you just never on anymore?--TahiriVeila 02:30, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

both. Gringo 02:46, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
oic <3--TahiriVeila 03:10, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

hey fuckwad

it's a variant, so merge it if you feel like it. otherwise, stop being a homeschooled nigger. if you want a different PvE Para build, come up with something useful for them to do besides spamming SY or stop being a shitter. your choice. ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:57, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

cuz axes + perma burning is less dmg then a spear? bad logic. Gringo 21:58, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
because putting your lowest AL teammate in the frontlines is bad. not to mention, spears aren't vulnerable to snares. ffs, a Locust's Fury SY sin is better than Axe SY. i know you're bad, but i never figured you were this bad. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:02, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Also, I've gotta clean up some stuff around the apartment so I probably won't be able to reply to whatever stupid shit you come up with until next week. Don't worry, though - I'll get around to it eventually. I know you can't wait to be called a retard again. ··· Danny Pew Pew 22:04, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Guild Wars Player versus Environment is serious business. Thunda Sig 2Pimpstronghand 22:06, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
@thunda all i said was we should have multiple pve paragon builds.
@danny a paragon is 80 AL and then a 16AL boost off shield, how is that "your lowest AL teammate"? In pve builds dont even matter, and having 2 paragons here does absolutely no harm whatsoever. if you want to merge it then merge it, dont WELL it then come to my talk starting loldrama over a pve build. Gringo 22:11, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
He was taking into consideration only having 1 Paragon, where everyone else on your team would have +100AL, therefore making the Paragon the lowest AL teammate. And why the fuck would you bring 2 paragons? Bring an imbagon and some pewpew damage machine instead of a second less effective SY shitter. Don't be dumb. Thunda Sig 2Pimpstronghand 22:15, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
Don't be a sillyface. People don't actually play with other people in PvE. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 22:18, November 25, 2009 (UTC)
I know, but metaphorically speaking. Thunda Sig 2Pimpstronghand 22:20, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Saint admits that he doesn't PvE. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 08:01, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

its more about having multiple paragon builds, and putting it in good does no harm, these kids just take pve very seriously. Gringo 19:20, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
Then let them, why conflict with it? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:46, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
you're taking it seriously if you think more than 1 paragon build is an issue. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 00:55, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
youre an idiot. Gringo 03:37, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
said the guy who couldn't come up with a funny or original insult. - AthrunFeya Athrun snow sig 09:45, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
You're not really making yourself look better doing that. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:03, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
you're both idiots. Gringo 17:58, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
Correct. I believe so are you, and mostly anyone else you ever face, so your point being? ---Chaos- (talk) -- 00:55, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Huh. Imagine that. I didn't even have to actually do any of the explaining. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:06, November 29, 2009 (UTC)


hey fuckwad

u wana FITE i giv u a FITE nd i WIN ahahaha

beach i r top 10 no one NOS me
aha i land bulls u no land BULLS cz i best naaemles war


Then correct me, really. Removing other people's comments all the time isn't very nice. Well, you might've been referring to lolThunda. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 21:37, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

i was directing my comment at something kj and i talked about last night and you were like "omg saint has something against me" randomly on the bot's talk. you were being dumb so i reverted you. generally don't assume everything is about you, its a good rule of thumb. Gringo 21:41, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
If you ditch the "omg" and any negative attitude in "omg saint has something against me", you might come somewhere near my perspective. To be honest, I really don't care as long as you don't make a big deal about it. ---Chaos- (talk) -- 11:25, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
well ur the one coming to my talk so pz out and we'll be all good. Gringo 18:27, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
Just because you removed my comment, y'no. Owell, I'll gtfo -> ---Chaos- (talk) -- 18:33, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Dear saint. No one likes you and you don't play guild wars anymore. Why do you keep posting here? 18:36, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

is that errant off his phone? and i do play gw, and i never said anyone likes me :> Gringo 18:41, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
mehbeh--TahiriVeila 22:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
playing gw is bad for you. stop playing and use bots to up titles in case gw2 is actually worth getting. ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:20, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
hope thats directed at errant, only he is gay enough to use bots for titles. Gringo 23:24, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
bots are good. you're the one still playing guild wars. any name-calling you do can pretty much be written off automatically. ··· Danny Pew Pew 23:31, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
I don't play gil worz and I don't bot, do I win nowz? --Frosty Frostcharge 23:53, December 1, 2009 (UTC)
you, in fact, do win. ··· Danny Pew Pew 00:11, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
danni pls gimmie lessons on coolness i want to be as cool as you and your cool group :((
i don't do special education. :< ··· Danny Pew Pew 01:01, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

flint and jezta and I are playing league of legends which is pretty fun. And I only use bots that i write or help danny write!--TahiriVeila 00:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

^ ··· Danny Pew Pew 01:01, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
i found LoL to be way too boring. each math takes a really really long time, dota is faster and more fun because you don't have to sit for such a long block of time just to finish a match. Gringo 01:16, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know what LoL is and DotA is meh. ··· Danny Pew Pew 18:59, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
LoL = League of Legends, the guys who made DoTa went and made it into a full on game, but its super long and pretty boring. Gringo 19:20, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
=/ sounds v b. ··· Danny Pew Pew 19:56, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

soiherd that in order to roll like a cool kid i need to stop signing when trolling people. c/d?

i rarely troll and i rarely sign my comments, i dont see the correlation. Gringo 06:20, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

LoL lasts an average of 40 minutes, and DotA lasts an average of an hour. Saint is bad. Lightningbolt siguɐɟɐʞıd o^_^o¸«` 06:59, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Community content is available under CC-BY-NC-SA 2.5 unless otherwise noted.