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Add {{user:Guild of Deals/Things that annoy me}} to your userpage. I'm adding this on the Talk because I don't wanna have it end up on main page if anyone adds it. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:39, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Use the <noinclude> tag for that. as in:<noinclude>Add <nowiki>{{user:Guild of Deals/Things that annoy me}} to your userpage..--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 00:39, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Discussion

lolol at the democrats comment. All politicians are full of shit as a rule, but the democrats combine that unseemly quality with the fact that the majority believe a large government and extensive social programs are effective. Socialism (the stuff the democrats want) epic fails.--Goldenstar 20:11, 18 February 2008 (EST)

democrats excel at being the only group of people more detestable than the republicans. ron paul and michael bloomberg are the only politicians in this country that shouldnt be lined up and shot in the kneecaps. your right on stupid people, and the ngr-black-afro amer thing though.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 20:14, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Ron Fucking Paul rocks my Ron Fucking Socks. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:16, 18 February 2008 (EST)
Ron Paul is a crazy fucking lunatic, but at least he's honest and sticks to his beliefs.--Goldenstar 20:17, 18 February 2008 (EST)
Bloomberg is better. but only just. bloomberg paul 08 is what i've been saying 04--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 20:18, 18 February 2008 (EST)
If he was an Democrat he would've done much better. Most of time, people look for family views in their candidates, and for Republicans, they look for far right Christian white guys. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:19, 18 February 2008 (EST)
IMHO McCain's gonna grab huckabee for his VP to pull in the bible belt, then go after moderate republican/independents. If Hilary wins the democratic nomination, she'll get rick rolled, if it's Obama it could go either way.--Goldenstar 20:21, 18 February 2008 (EST)
I think that morally Huckabee would say know as McCain doesn't roll with all his views. But again, Republicans don't have morals. I think Hillary will get the nomination and grab either Obama or Edwards for VP vs. McCain and some heavy conservative. Not to be racist, but some people in America (Not me) don't want a woman/black president. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:31, 18 February 2008 (EST)
IDK about having a woman or a black as president, i just don't want either of the ones running to be get the job XD--Goldenstar 20:33, 18 February 2008 (EST)
IMO, let Hillary win for '08, kick her out in '12, and then make it Edwards/Kucinich '12 or Paul/Bloomberg '12. Both would be great running against eachother: it's a win-win. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:37, 18 February 2008 (EST)
Despite having a super hawt wife, Kucinich is never ever ever ever gonna win a presidency. VP maybe, but not likely--Goldenstar 14:53, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Hilary is made of fail. Obama or Mccain plz. Misfate 00:49, 21 February 2008 (EST)
Regarding Goldenstar's comment, I'm reminded of something I overheard recently. Regarding Hilary v. Obama: "I'd rather have a white pussy in the white house than a black one..." The nice thing is that if you're racist/sexist you can laugh about it and if you're not, you can laugh about how racist & sexist some people are! - zomg! Panic sig.png PANIC! 08:57, 22 February 2008 (EST)
Lolz. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 09:03, 22 February 2008 (EST)

IRON MY SHIRTSkadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 14:51, 15 March 2008 (EDT)

Boy Scouts

I'm a Life Scout. Auron's an Eagle. So's my dad, come to that. Don't fall into the habit of judging people because they're in a group; that's like saying "all of KGYU is good" and ignoring Devine using sig devo on the spike and spirit bond after (yes, he actually did).

Also, for the record, none of the troops I was in had problems with homosexuals, nor were they in any way racist. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 02:36, 19 February 2008 (EST)

Boy Scouts usually don't have a problem with gays, but Boy Scout leadership sure as hell does. --71.229 02:49, 19 February 2008 (EST) not totally their fault, they're in a pretty shitty spot.
Yeah, I was including the leadership in the troops. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 04:18, 19 February 2008 (EST)
All I know is that they're losing their government-subsidized headquarters building in Philadelphia because of discrimination against homosexuals. --71.229 04:39, 19 February 2008 (EST) or it was just the subsidies, can't remember which.
In the Scouts, you cannot be openly gay and join. It's not prohibited. Maybe not all Boy Scouts have problems with gays, but I would never join. Ever. I'll change it a little. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 07:21, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Fixed for Armond, and I added Pokemon as a rant... Lol have fun. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 07:28, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Scouts = fail for a lot more reasons than some anti homo tendencies.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 16:28, 19 February 2008 (EST)
I mean, who has fun destroying forestland to make a path? Really? Also, I don't think you can get more gay than color-coordinated little boy's outfits with a bandanna around your neck. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 19:24, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Disagrees. --71.229 07:35, 20 February 2008 (EST)
I dont care how gay it is(or not gay, i mean serously, thats just a little discriminatory off just the scarves). All i know is i had to get a badge before i could hold a knife, and it was disapproved of. they could be fucking flaming homos if they werent a group of unrequited fathers and indoctrinated boys who are filled to the brim with a load of crap that translates into:take orders. dont ask why. follow enough orders and you get to make some.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 00:42, 21 February 2008 (EST)
Another thing:when i saw a picture of the scouts, all uniformed, and scarved? i was reminded of a pic of my brother...IN COMMUNIST FUCKING HUNGARY doing the same shit. being ordered around and being beaten down by the "more knowledgeable authority". fuck that.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 00:44, 21 February 2008 (EST)

Scouting is the best program in the country (US) for boys that age. Do you have a better suggestion? Should they join the local A+ afterschool program, or maybe the football team? Or maybe they should just stay at home and play nintendo all day? Nothing teaches kids how to live in today's world better than scouts.
You cannot be a leader in scouts and be openly gay; not because homosexuality is evil, but because homosexuality runs counter to the Scouting curriculum. Leaders can be as gay as they want on their own time, but if they're trying to teach kids leadership and outdoor skills, what the fuck are they doing flipping their wrists and lisping every other word? It's unnecessary and, yes, a bad example. Again, homosexuality is having sex with someone of the same gender, not acting like a girl because you're a dipshit.
Scouting has lost some government support because the Enlightened Jewish Protesters league (ohwait, I think they're called ACLU) has labeled them as a "religious extremist" group. Or something. Which is funny, because in all my years of scouting (including several national events), I haven't seen a single thing saying "you can only be Christian" or "you can only join if you hate Muslims." I guess I'm missing all the boy scout KKK parades or something... or maybe they don't exist? Nah, if the ACLU says it, it must be true!
To expand on that point; Scouting teaches boys to be "reverent." No matter what religion they are (and, indeed, Scouting stresses that all religious ceremonies be non-denominational; something they call "Scout's Own"), they're welcomed in Scouting. I've personally held devotions during Summer Camp where we had prayers from Jewish scouts, Catholic scouts, Baptist scouts, Mormon scouts, and even a Taoist scout. None of them got offended, not of them hated the others, and none of them were bashed for believing whatever they believed. Whatever the ACLU thinks about scouting being a religious extremist organization, it's wrong.
Anyway, if you have any actual arguments, feel free to post them, but all I've seen so far is uneducated assumptions and half-assed summaries of news stories. Do some research if you want to bash something effectively. -Auron 23:14, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

Boy Scouts would be cool if they babied you less. Like throw you alone in the middle of the desert and get a "Find Your Way Out Before You Die" badge. — Skadiddly[슴Mc슴]Diddles 14:50, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
"Wilderness survival?" These are 11 year old kids, not army rangers. Would you throw your kid in the desert and hope he makes it out alive? Hm, you probably would, actually... :P -Auron 01:32, 16 March 2008 (EDT)
I would. Teaches them some self responsibility. Also, when they say "I'm thirsty!" I can say "Well remember the fucking desert?" --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 13:20, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

"You cannot be a leader in scouts and be openly gay; not because homosexuality is evil, but because homosexuality runs counter to the Scouting curriculum. Leaders can be as gay as they want on their own time, but if they're trying to teach kids leadership and outdoor skills, what the fuck are they doing flipping their wrists and lisping every other word? It's unnecessary and, yes, a bad example. Again, homosexuality is having sex with someone of the same gender, not acting like a girl because you're a dipshit."

Wow, bad reasoning is bad. It is completely natural to talk about important people in one's life. It's called socializing. If a boy talks about his girlfriend, no one givs a shit. But if a boy talks about his boyfriend, suddenly he is counter to the "Scouting curriculum"? Fuck that, that's retarded and the very definition of homophobia. --User:Thc 07:14, 1 January 2009 (EST)
Saying that they "can't be gay during their scout time" is impossible. Being gay is like being black or white, it's not a choice. It's as much a trait as skin color or gender. It's not genetic, though. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 09:06, 1 January 2009 (EST)

pokemon

lulz, pokemon market is dead...pokemon still gets saled pretty fast tbh...and pokemon iz cool cuz it has mudkipz imo --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 13:00, 19 February 2008 (EST)

If u herd i liek mudkipz, u herd wrong. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 15:39, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Tbh, the only thing I like about pokemon is the number crunch from EVs and IVs. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 16:22, 19 February 2008 (EST)
The games were fun. I'm always a RPG let's level up and get stronger guy, but now I'm like "WTF was I doing?" --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 16:23, 19 February 2008 (EST)

The games are like... best RPG's on Gameboy evar. Rickyvantof 16:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)

pokemon is an amazing game ruined by viral marketing. end of story.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 16:31, 19 February 2008 (EST)

And Mudkips. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 16:38, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Viral? I got pokerus twice. On the same file. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 19:20, 19 February 2008 (EST)
Not as bad Pokerirus. Got that once, and I couldn't stop vomiting Piccachu yellow for like 3 days. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 19:23, 19 February 2008 (EST)
I herd Pokerus was fail w/o an understanding of EV, so is funny when little kids hyperventalate over getting this "Cool" virus on dere pokemonz when they really havnt a fucking clue. Anyway if the pokemon market were dead they wouldnt make anymore. Just as with any market a generation outgrows it but a new generation grasps onto it. Not to say that the new generation is like OMFG IS THAT A CHARIZARD!? *Stabs* *Steals* *Runs away* but pokemon, while being pretty fucking dum, is still a staple for the youth.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 06:18, 20 February 2008 (EST)
Still, they're a thing we'd like to forget. To release that we were like "Wow! Look! On the Pokemon show, mommy, Ash caught Godzilla and fought a wild Pokemon AND WON!!!" --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 07:15, 20 February 2008 (EST)
I never really liked the show. I think it was because, even way back then, I understood on some instinctive level what a little ankle-biting prick Ash was. --71.229 07:37, 20 February 2008 (EST)
Watching this was good though --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 15:12, 20 February 2008 (EST)

noU

Penguins are one of the most epic animals on the planet. Oranges taste epic. Never heard of anyone that doesn't like mudkipz. New rating requirement is epic vs sockpuppets. learn 2 WoW priavte server. Misfate 00:46, 21 February 2008 (EST)

qft, minus the wow part.--Dark0805(Rant/Contributions) 10:46, 21 February 2008 (EST)
i also have a penguin comment... they arnt gonna die from global warming, they live on Antartica. and even if tht melts, there still is land under tht ice chunk :)--InvertedSigBarrage.jpgThe Noob Police 17:37, 21 February 2008 (EST)
Oh they'll die alright... (Penguin stew at my place!) --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 18:33, 21 February 2008 (EST)
i dont want that penguins die =( --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 08:38, 22 February 2008 (EST)
try eating this penguin [1] go to 4:25 on the vid if u want to skip right to the penguin.--InvertedSigBarrage.jpgThe Noob Police 15:10, 22 February 2008 (EST)

pr0 builds @ AB are for nubs (wut nubs say)

im a nub at AB running cripshot =( --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 18:51, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Well, I've seen one to many Life Transfer Necros at AB. Cripshot is good at AB, if your not a complete dick at using it. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 19:00, 1 March 2008 (EST)
i got called nub cuz a sin was running GSS sin and couldnt kill me (lol natural Stride) and i killed him like shit (like i do to everyone) --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 19:19, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Only experienced people rule in AB, aka people with common sense to run metas. People try to make "original" builds in AB. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 19:27, 1 March 2008 (EST)
/agree...sword wielding ranger with pet: i discovered THE spike ever!....no u didnt..--InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 19:39, 1 March 2008 (EST)
I'm bunny thumping shit in AB right now. I do it because I like hitting people with hammers. - zomg! Panic sig.png PANIC! 20:01, 1 March 2008 (EST)
You can't go wrong with Thumpers. Even in PvE they're pretty good. Still, why can't people just stick to metas? --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:09, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Meta? In AB?? How can you expect 3 random 4-man teams to have a meta? - zomg! Panic sig.png PANIC! 20:18, 1 March 2008 (EST)
AB meta. Antiarchangel 20:47, 1 March 2008 (EST)
a good player with a bad build > a bad player with meta build.. in almost all cases. and again, good players usually dont run bad builds but u get my point =) I wanna AB real bad, any1 up for organising a team for AB sometime? just to pwn some Luxons (yah Im kurz, going for title so dont wanna go guest at luxons if its avoidable) --Majnore 07:01, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
See you on the battlefield then. :p Selket Shadowdancer 07:30, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
LIKE I would log in just to kick ur nuts =P nah u gotta get me a proper team as well, not gonna bother if all I get to play with is Spirit Spam assassins and whatever bullshit u find in AB. =) --Majnore 10:57, 2 August 2008 (EDT)

wow

You fucking moan too much. ~~ Napalm Flame >=] Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)·(contributions) 20:27, 1 March 2008 (EST)

That's why I'm cool. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:36, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Lol, I don't moan unless I have a bloody good reason to, makes me cool irl. ~~ Napalm Flame >=] Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)·(contributions) 20:46, 1 March 2008 (EST)
"bloody good reason" :) (ignore this post)--InvertedSigBarrage.jpgThe Noob Police 20:58, 1 March 2008 (EST)
You play GW. You're not cool irl. Anyway, moaning here lets me be a better person... I guess? --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 20:58, 1 March 2008 (EST)
AM I NOT? Oh, really... You don't know me then. =D ~~ Napalm Flame >=] Napalm Flame Sig Image.JPG (talk)·(contributions) 21:01, 1 March 2008 (EST)
Maybe I do know you. LOOK OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW! --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 21:02, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Texting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBflm_S61Wg <- FTW RailinWoHInvertedSig.jpgPhalmatticus 02:45, 2 March 2008 (EST)

LOL, nigga technology. I lol'ed irl--AngelusShove.jpgAngelus 20:47, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

Wii

I'm waiting for the point where the number of systems sold actually surpasses the population of the earth. I'm guessing that'll be in 2 weeks or so with Brawl out. Well, if they could make them that fast O.o Good luck finding one now, since every sane person that has played SSBM or SSB 64 will want the Wii. (Yes, Brawl is THAT good) And on the shock axe thing, you're totally right! I think you should go rate every build on PvX 0-0-0 with that reason :D Dejh 16:42, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

I'm pissed at Wii's. For Shock Axe, look at the eliminated ratings for Shock Axe, and see Mizzouman's. It became legendary. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 16:44, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Yeah, I was referring to Rawr's rating spam of that :P Almost as intelligent as the Cripshot ratings O.o Dejh 17:21, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
CRIPSHOT SUX CAUSE RANGERS R DPS AND IT'S DPS IZ BAED!! --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 17:22, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

COOL

UR RLY COOL BRO CUZ U CN BTCH LIEK A MOANIN WHORE UR SO PRO IM GNNA SHAAK UR ERF ND C HAO U MOAN DEN ITLL BE LIEK WEN DID DAT SHT WIF GAIA ND SHE BE LIEK OOF OOF SHAAK ME ND I BE LIKE KK ND I SHUUK HR AL NITE —̵ERFUser Erf Shakuur Erf Shakuur.jpgSHAКUUЯ 17:04, 11 March 2008 (EDT)

Hells yeah. Right on, my brotha! --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 17:05, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
FKKN WURD NIGGA! DAT IZ WELL HARD! - zomg! Panic sig.png PANIC! 17:06, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
NO ONE LIEKS U BTW ND UR RLY BAED —̵ERFUser Erf Shakuur Erf Shakuur.jpgSHAКUUЯ 17:09, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
Right on, my brotha! --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 17:09, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
DID U SHAAK HR AL NITE LNG -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 23:17, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

BEARSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my fucking god (atheist too but whatever), how the fuck can you hate bears thats just fucking ridiculous. Bears are awesome if I knew how to work the wiki I'd show a picture of why I think their awesome but I don't know so insane CAPS SAYS BEARS AWESOME! YOU SIR ARE AN IDIOT..Palin Oni 21:50, 14 March 2008 (EDT)Palin Oni

what the hell I rampage come to my senses and delete and someone undeletes, :( Palin Oni 22:09, 14 March 2008 (EDT)Palin Oni

Bears are cool until you come downstairs and find one in your living room, eating your pork chops. :( --71.229.204.25 22:10, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
I guess thats true for any animal <_< ▪ √ēт [no:Du] 23:18, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
Except Saint Bernards, because Saint Bernards are totally fucking awesome. --71.229 23:22, 14 March 2008 (EDT)
WTF? If you like bears, YOU ARE AGAINST AMERICA! Bears are the #1 threat to America, as said by the Rev. Dr. Stephen Colbert, DFA, that bears threaten our very existence. You might as well just burn our Constitution if you like bears. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 07:35, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
I'm against America cuz america is baed. Not cuz of bears. Rawrawr 08:16, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
Eh, good enough. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 08:17, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
If you dont like panda bears you become my new #1 enemy on pvx Rawrawr 08:26, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
Pandas are for nubs :O --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 08:27, 15 March 2008 (EDT)
wtf go fuck yourself asshole The preceding awesome-sauce comment was added by Rawr. 13:53, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

(reset) Bears are wicked, evil, vile creatures that must be kept at bay. Speaking of bears, why don't you have UB on your list of things that annoy you? It's not like anyone actually likes the skill... Silavor UserSilavorSigIcon.png 05:17, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

Tab Polar.jpgSkakid 19:32, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Polar bears are much different. I have nothing against them. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:34, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Thought that was a baby panda...--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 19:36, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Hugh Jackman

'If Dr. Cox doesn't like him, why should I?' That just wins so damn much. Zefir 00:34, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

/agree Ojamo 19:13, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

Hmm

Reading through this reminded me why I (or whoever it was) suggested that you move it to a subpage. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 23:30, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

Actually it was because when I converted to Snow White Tan's page, It wouldn't really fit. So I made it into a sub page. --GoD Sig3.jpgGuildofDeals 06:38, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

you need to add

People (usually incredibly fat ones) who walk in impassable groups down hallways and sidewalks REALLY SLOWLY. And you know they can see you want to get past because they slow down even more and turn their heads to point at something they just passed and make some random comment. "ERRR! My Grandma likes tulips!"

Also, Tricia Helfer is awesome. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 04:52, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

OH GOD HIGH SCHOOL MEMORIES. (At the people and the corridors. Who's Tricia Helfer?) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 13:21, 29 April 2008 (EDT)
Tricia Helfer is the sultry blonde from the new Battlestar Galactica. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 13:46, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Bad Spelling

In this bullet point you say you do not like bad spelling and people who generally can't spell correctly, look closely, you actually miss-spelt a word called "buy", you spelt it as "by". Please go and learn to spell kk? Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 20:26, 16 May 2008 (EDT)

Misspelled. That is all. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 20:38, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
Misspelled twice! Frost eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! 20:47, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
Note that he made comments about just that. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 23:19, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

Larry the Cable Guy

He has some okay stuff. Sure, you can't understand it, but he makes funny noises and claps his hands, and that's always enjoyable. Btw, I agree 100% with the Guitar Hero bs. I teach guitar at my local Sam Ash, and I can't tell you the number of kids that come in on a daily basis thinking they're guitar gods because they can hit brightly coloured buttons in a sequence completely different from the actual song. It steams my bacon. That is all.--Fallen (talk) 23:27, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

Yeah, I guess bumbling around like a drunk baboon is funny. As with Guitar Hero, I'd rather spend the same money on a regular guitar, learn to actually play guitar, and then say I can play guitar, not hit buttons on an oversized controller. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:18, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
Exactly. I'm just waiting until someone decides to make Piano Hero, that way kids might be able to see just how silly these games are.--Fallen (talk) 12:11, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
I love Guitar Hero/Rockband and I've played real electric guitar for 3 years. Its just a fun game to play when you've got a bunch of friends over. -Jax010//healingp=0 19:29, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

[LaZy]

So true, as is with [KISS] no standards really and they call themselves a "nation" pfffft Crassus 11:36, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

But you never see [LaZy] in things like Obs, do you? (well, I don't) All they do is recruit mindlessly (even the worst people ever) and then say they're good. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:05, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
LaZy is just a 10 guild pve alliance --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig2.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 16:39, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
LaZy doesn't do shit and suck. It doesn't matter if you have 800 members. 800 members who suck < 10 members who are awesome. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 16:41, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
i farm LaZy for breakfast --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig2.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 16:43, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
Indeed, same with kiss actually, although their playerbase is a bit better. My personal fave are [DVDF], [AMP] and [PA] they actually have a lot of really good people. --Tiger Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg grrr!! 08:05, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
I mean, guilds aren't judged by how many people they have. You could have 8 solid, awesome players and be a great good, as opposed to having 800 players who all lack any actual experience. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:07, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Personally I give up with guilds like this. I prefer smaller guilds where a members voice can be heard. [LaZy] I never really liked, [KISS] were ok until the disputes I had with them. The problem with guilds like these is too much focus on being large rather than being great leads to the majority of the playerbase within them being dickheads. Selket Shadowdancer 08:38, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Exactly. I mean, they have about 800+, but I doubt any of them have the experience of guilds like [dR] and such. They don't focus on either holding towns with faction, or farming PvE, or winning GvG/HA, they just focus on getting big. If they came up against a good guild, they would lose by a landslide. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Well actually both guilds are close to being around the 1600 mark with alliances in both factions. Saying that you have to remember they're not really PvP focused guilds and have never claimed to be, at least not to my knowledge. From my experience as officer in the leader guild of the luxon [KISS] alliance, our biggest focus there was building community more than anything else, and that was something that we did do a good job of. Can't really say what it's like there now though since I got kicked. Selket Shadowdancer 08:44, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Still, building a community is good, but a community of 800+ people, most of which have little to no Guild Wars experience, most of which hardly express any opinion, isn't fun. I enjoy guilds because you have people you know to do stuff with, but when you hardly do anything but recruit random hordes of people, then that's boring. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:48, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
I get what you're saying. To be successful a guild needs a proper purpose. I guess it dependson what you want to achieve really. Probably explains why I'm an epic guild hopper too. Selket Shadowdancer 09:34, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

For the record

GW is a sport because the people who are good enough to be worth watching on obs don't find every other aspect of the game boring as hell. (At least, imo. :P) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 23:47, 13 June 2008 (EDT)

Also, watching baseball is pretty boring too. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 02:39, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Watching baseball is not as sad as spending your past time watching GW games. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:56, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Indeed, half of all the teams would abuse vod to win, I am sure, and watching a good team lose because their opponent exploits vod is a bit sad. --Tiger Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg grrr!! 08:02, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
That's just because, for some unknown reason, Anet didn't find it pertinent to show Picnic Pioneers rolling dervsmite with Prophecies IWAY. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 08:07, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Because A-Net doesn't like PvX, and Picnic Pioneers was mostly made of PvX'ers (including me). --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:09, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Um... did you ever even GvG with us? As far as I know you and Cross were invited like a week before Grinch raged. This was Grinch, Unexist, Ska, Tab, Me, and Frv I think. Actually I think Rawr was with us too - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 08:11, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
No, I didn't. I came around the same time as XFire (I invited him). Anyway, I usually don't do much GvG, due to my sucky internet connection(s). Nothing like some guy shouting "GoD, attack him!" and my screen going "You have lost connection. Attempt to reconnect?" --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:12, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Wouldn't make much difference if half the team disconnected, it just relies on like 2 players anyway ;o Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube.jpg 08:16, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
(EC) Pvp asks for good internets. ;) --Tiger Tiger's Fury Tigrr.jpg grrr!! 08:17, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

MLG

video games ARE a sport in south korea. goddam south koreans.--Reason.decrystallized 14:00, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

OH LOOK! HE PASSES THE CONTROLLER! HE'S GOING FOR IT! HE'S GOING! OOOOOOOOH! AND CHING PAW-SON WINS!! AND NOW HE WINS A LIFETIME OF ABSITINENCE AND MISERY! --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:01, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
lol. although south korean girls might think gaming is hot. can anyone confirm or deny this? cause if they do, i'm totally moving.--Reason.decrystallized 14:03, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
We do have a South Korean girl. Yeah, I made that up. But nothing says "sexy" to anyone like a lifeless, mole personesque video game jockey who spends more time making love to his controller than to a woman and spends more time in front of a televison than he does sleep. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:05, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
well, if the controller has a rumble pak ...--Reason.decrystallized 14:06, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
My friend's brother once did something like that. He was playing like Tony Hawk or something, and he glitched it so he was constantly grinding and made the controller go rumble crazy... Let's just say he stuck it in his pants and it came out with homemade gravy... --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:08, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
we've all thought of it at one point or another. but that's the first i've heard of anyone actually doing it.--Reason.decrystallized 14:13, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
Have fun with the lack of sleep you'll be getting tonight, whether it's from horror, disgust, curiousity, or all of the above. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 14:16, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
might have to gouge out my mind's eye after that ...--Reason.decrystallized 14:17, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
Sick... twsited... where's my controller? xD Selket Shadowdancer 16:08, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

bear grylls ownz eat a fucking dick — Skakid 20:50, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

no not dick. controller.--Reason.decrystallized 21:03, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
Bear Grylls is a complete fraud. It even says "Some situations are presented to Bear to teach the users of what do do" or something like that, aka "We throw a snake in front of him, make him say "Look! I found a snake!" and then dance around it to try and teach people about fucking snakes." --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:15, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Stfu — Skakid 11:50, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

On a vaguely related note, I can confirm that professional Starcraft players in South Korea are kings among men who have a status equal to star sportsmen in other countries. They are apparently sex gods with a majority of their fan base being female. The coverage of a match is really one of the most bizarre things you will ever watch, complete with them first being introduced on an explosive blue and white background with a fan directed at them to give them that windswept look. It's pretty bloody crazy to watch them play too, I never played Starcraft like that, I guess that's why I was bad at it. They also know the second they've lost and ragequit instantly. - Misery Is Hawt19px 12:04, 16 June 2008 (EDT)


can i ?;o

add something to ur things-that-don't-annoy me list? ;o CloseCloseImpactSW.jpgImpactToo Muh Bruh 15:18, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

Depends. What is it? --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:21, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Depends. --71.229 15:23, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Sorry, I'm not into adult diapers. --File:GoD Wario Sig.JPG*Wah Wah Wah!* 15:31, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
To simplify the Things that annoy me part, why not just replace it with "Everything not on the list below"? ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 16:29, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
can i add myself? ;oCloseCloseImpactSW.jpgImpactToo Muh Bruh 09:14, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

stuff

IE's interface annoys the crap out of me, ignoring all the security holes. Water temple is AHMIGAHD fail. JPEGs are too. .png is, like, the same thing as .gif for... pretty much everything, with the exception of the fact that it's like half the file size or something like that. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image.png{{sysop}} 21:35, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

PNG does probably have the best quality, and transparent PNGs>transparent GIFs (because GIFs get all pixelly around the edges.) ــмıкεнaшк 13:20, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Politics.

"Republicans: There's 2 types of people in the world: People who are right, or people who get everything wrong. Republicans go under the latter." ^No, there are 2 types of people in this world. political people and honest good people. You fall into the prior of this for hating the term "republican."--Ikimono 18:04, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Much <3's. Honestly, they're mostly a bunch of bigots who want church and state to be closer together than having sex with an elephant. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 18:06, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
And democrats are mostly bigots who'd rather the government was monstrously large and every druggie dropout got full health and dental. And that's ignoring the fact aht all politicians--no matter which faction--are power-hungry morons who shouldn't be ruling an anthill let alone a country. Politics iun general are pretty phail, benevolent dictatorship/oligarchy gogo--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 18:32, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Not unless you're the Red Party. Red Party > Democrats > Independents > Reform Party > Cowshit > Republicans, the the list of parties (the Cowshit Party was a huge influence in the election of Who Gives a Fuck). --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 18:34, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
BTW communism is baed, it creates stagnant countries due to the fact that communism removes the drive to excel. Why be the best when your standard of living isn't any better than the high school reject working at burger king? Communism doesn't work unless you have a brutal government forcing the systme on the people (IE Stalin, Mao), and then you get a bunch of malcontent. Communism isn't goo. Note:I don't think democracies are good either. People are stupid and most people shouldn't have the power to choose leaders, they're just that uninformed and easy to persuade. TBH I think that the current US government--with a secret oligarchy that controls things behind the seens, composed of members for life who choose their own members whenever a new one is needed and whose only goal is the betterment of the nation--is the best option. Well the best other than the abolition of the whol nation system so humanity can combine its resources and talents to do something actually useful like spreading out to other planets/star systems. But yeah that's just me theorycrafting, who knows if i'm right.--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 18:42, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
...Excel at what? You can still try to make better technology and stuff, but while making your economy sound and efficient. People should all be treated equally, and just saying "Aw he's stupid so let's let him get poor and die" isn't good. If your world is driven by money, then that's bad. Work is work, no matter what it is. Also, Stalin and Mao made horrible Communist societies because they made everyone much lesser than themselves, which defeats Communism's purpose. They both made government controlled societies that herded the public like cattle. People think Communism is bad because they haven't seen a good society built on it yet. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:23, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Excel at something. Read Harrison Bergeron [2] for more info ;) — Skakid 19:26, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
I did read it. It was mandatory reading last year. Anyway, that shows a bad communistic society. Equality in economic status is a very different principle than equality in every single standard. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:27, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
The drive to excel at whatever work you're doing to contribute to society. If everyone is treated equally no matter what then there's no motivation to put your best effort into whatever work you're supposed to be doing. And yes, you should let the stupid and unmotivated people get poor an die. It's called natural selection and it's worked for all know life for a couple billion years now. The qualities that society deems undesirable (laziness, stupidity, lack of motivation) get weeded out while the society desires (drive to accomplish something, to improve standard of living) are passed on and become more prevalent. Natural selection is the best method for improvement, communism seeks to remove it as a factor and is therefore ineffective.--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 19:28, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
"The qualities that society deems undesirable (laziness, stupidity, lack of motivation) get weeded out"
Doesn't work that way. --71.229 19:29, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Unfortunatly >.<--GoldenGoldenstar.JPGStar 19:32, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Unfortunatly the qualities are those of our current leaders, the silver spoon generation ;p.----ﮎHædõ๘یíɳShadowsin sig.PNG 19:35, 7 July 2008 (EDT)
Gogo expatriotism? Cedave bad.png ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 10:15, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
"REPENT, HARLEQUIN!" - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 10:22, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

what gives you the right to judge all republicans as mindless bigots? ah well cant expect much out of a big-mouthed 15-year-old. saying that about repudlicans is the same as saying all black people are idiots who should be in jail. its obviously wrong. and wtf would you even like democrats? you said you werent proud to be an american, 1 trait shown in most all big supporters on the democrat/republican parties is that they want the best for america and love it, which apparently you dont. TAKE YOUR PILLS 16:59, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

TBH, only a mindless bigot would call me a big-mouth 15 year old. Anyway, please don't bend shitty metaphors over a table and rape them. Comparing Republicans to saying all black people should be in jail is the shittiest thing. Ever. Republicans are good with the economy, but staying in Iraq for 100 years is shit, and denying rights to people (gay people) like we did to slaves is mindless bigotry. Republicans bring too much Christianity into a nation of free religion. Like in this years elections, candidates are trying to show how "Christian" they are. Bull shit. I don't care if Obama was or is a Muslim (he isn't), he's the best leader for the country who will fly us out of this hellhole. If they last 8 years of recession and war haven't taught you anything, then you're sleeping in class. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 21:12, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
this hellhole? where are you living? dont you think that the iraq war is actually doing something? take a second to count the number of terrorist attacks on this country since the troops invaded iraq..... 0. osama and most terrorists in iraq and scared to come out of their caves, what do you think they would be doing right now if we all left? dont you think that possibly some people who have more experience and intelligence than you can make good decisions without your input? TAKE YOUR PILLS 00:07, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Take a minute to count the number of Al Qaeda terrorist attacks before 9/11? Also remember that those attacks were done by people living in the US. The reason there haven't been more attacks since then is because of internal security; not because we blew the fuck out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, Obama is a fucking moron riding the American people on a saddle made of pipe dreams. No one in politics gives a fuck about America and it's constitution. Stop kidding yourselves. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 04:29, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Panic is right. Iraq or Afghanistan doesn't have anything to do with it. It's the fact that we tightened our security by a lot so this stuff can't happen. As for Obama, I was a Kucinich person, but after he dropped out, I was for Clinton. But now, although Obama wasn't my pride pick, he can Clinton share(d) most of the same views and either way can lead this country out of this hellhole. And by hellhole, I mean the massive amounts of debt, foreclosures, and $4 a gallon oil and gas. If you think that everything is prime in America, then you must be under a rock and not notice a single thing. It may be fine to you, but to people who are struggling (not me, but just for example), loosing their house and job, it's not fine. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 09:01, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
The debts and foreclosures are the result of a bad gamble made by banks where they pushed the risk/gain ratio too far. They not only fucked themselves but hard-working lower-middle class families who were made to believe that they could borrow more than they actually could and then dig themselves out of debt later on. The rising price of petroleum products is a worldwide problem and it's a result of massive economical booms in places like India and China coupled with instability in the Middle East which, obviously, is (was? dunno what their export situation is like?) the world's largest producer of crude oil. Obama and Clinton won't be leading anyone out of anywhere, especially if they go ahead with their plans for Middle East extraction; unless it's the most brilliant exit strategy ever conceived, it'll leave the area prime for civil conflicts and more instability. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 09:17, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
/agree about credit thing. our involvement in the middle east is now a lose/lose situation, in that it is bad but there is no way to end it that is not also very bad.--Reason.decrystallized 17:55, 20 July 2008 (EDT)
Why the fuck do you want to be economically equal with everyone else? Most people don't deserve it. Fuck them. I am not paying for some fatass to eat mcdonalds all day.User:ISnowBunnyISnow Bunny 01:42, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Church & State

I'm probably going to get e-nutted, but you know the only place this statement is located is from a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a parishioner (or maybe a minister). Whoever the letter was to had voiced concerns that the US would turn into Egland - which Jefferson replied somethine like: there will be a wall between church and state, but it will be a one-way wall. The state will not influence the church, but the church will be able to influence the state (end paraphrased excerpt). There is the clause in the first amendment which states that, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" (which is what the parishioner/minister was worried about) but as has already been said, it wasn't meant as it is now taken - thanks to a large degree to the interpretation of the court.
So...while you may wish for there to more of a separation, it's not supported (or rather shouldn't be) by the Bill of Rights. This doesn't mean I personally think there should be a requirement to have the president be a minister (very bad idea), but that a lot of the laws that go along with a church being able to claim the tax exempt status, are unconstitutional (i.e. a minister not being able to speak out against a certain candidate). Anyway, my two cents and am a little curious as to what this will stir up. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 19:52, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

/e-nuts you. keep your nose out of politics or start paying taxes. why this should be a problem is beyond me.--Reason.decrystallized 20:31, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
Because it's censure. And not constitutional. Thanks for the bag tag by-the-way lol ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 22:30, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
Besides, if this is accurate, a church is already exempt and does not need to file for the 501c3. If you do, you no longer have 'inalienable' rights, but are subject to any law just as every other corporation is. In this way, any law made (organizations benefiting from tax exempt status will do this and this etc), must be adhered to by the 'organization', in this example, the Church. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 22:38, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
The first amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free excercise thereof. This was pretty much a direct finger in the air at Protestants in the English government who outlawed the Christian Mass. What this clause is meant to do is stop the government from implementing religious doctorine in the context of religion. They cannot, for instance, pass a law that says everyone must attend Sunday Mass or that observing Passover means imprisonment. They can, however, implement laws that also happen to be religious beliefs so long as they don't impede upon the personal or organized establishment of your religion. When they do implement laws that overlap with a religious doctorine, though, they make sure to cover their ass by using non-religious reasons for implementing them. Also, one of the amendments says (paraphrased) that a State cannot implement a law that the federal government could not implement. In short, separation of church and state is in the constitution (phrased in a different, formal manner) but the point is to prevent the government telling you that you have to worship this or you can't worship that. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 04:49, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
My main issue is that church in state is restricting freedoms, mainly of the gay community. Since the Bible condemns gay people totally, a church and state society would ban marrige from it. It also right now is forbidding abortion. If they were seperate, we wouldn't be limiting the so-called freedoms the U.S. should allow. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 07:54, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Gay marriage is legal in some states. Also, abortion isn't outright forbidden; they're cleverly getting experts to say "At x days, a fetus is - more or less - a person; killing it would thus be murder." I don't think I ever heard the President stand up and say "Pope & Bible says no to gays and abortions." Also, I think it's inflamatory for gays to go "We want to have a marriage!" when marriage, itself, is by definition a religious ceremony between a man and a woman. That's like a member of the Black Panthers protesting that he can be elected an officer in the KKK. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 08:16, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I know this is a tacky example, but the marrige of bread and butter together is what I see. Marrige (in my terms) is the bonding of 2 things, whether it be bread and butter, or 2 people. Anyway, there should be a LAW saying all states have to allow gay marrige. I think the churches can say no, but the courts must say yes. And the only states that allow it are Massachusetts and California. Even then, you have to be a citizen in either state to marry there, so you can't go there for a weekend, get drunk, and end up married you your drinking buddy the next morning. Anyway, still, abortion is illegal to some extent, and gay marrige is still illegal in some states, which is absurd. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 08:19, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Meh. I can walk around shooting people and calling it "Marrying them with bullets" and it will piss people off even though it would probably be accurate by modern dictionary terms. The point is though that same-sex unions have very many parallels to Catholic/Muslim/Jewish/etc marriages, but in the eyes of religious people, their union ISNT a marriage. So same-sex couples calling their union a marriage is, to be quite honest, insensitive and spiteful. I'm not against same-sex unions and I'm not classically religious, but I do think that same-sex couples are only bringing the hate and malice upon themselves when they tout their union as "marriage". Come up with a new word FFS and maybe they won't see quite so much resistance to it. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 08:32, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Dey wantz 2 fits in wit dem haters. Lord of all tyria 08:37, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Since civil unions are state backed, shoot for those. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:04, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

(reset)Just now getting back. I'm not sure if I agree with your comment, "What this clause is meant to do is stop the government from implementing religious doctorine in the context '''of religion'''. True, you can't implement laws which limit the rights of another religion, but you can implement laws based on your religious convictions. As support for this, I go back to Jefferson's letter. He said that government will not influence the church, but the church can the state. I completely agree with your last comment - that's as far as separation should go according to the Bill of Rights. Unfortunately it goes a lot further than that. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:03, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

again, if you want to influence the political process, then you should pay taxes to support the political institutions. that's not in the least bit unconstitutional, as it has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.--Reason.decrystallized 10:07, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Tbh, almost all laws are based on religion. Most moral codes are based off of old religions, it doesn't mean they aren't sensible, but they are by no means the "default" way of running things. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 10:12, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Decrys, the reason why churches are tax exempt to begin with (without having to file for 501c3 status) is because, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Religion cannot be free if you have to pay the government in order to exercise your right. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:23, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
He said that government will not influence the church, but the church can the state. That's exactly what I meant by the "clause is meant to do is stop the government from implementing religious doctorine in the context of religion." As I went on to say: "They cannot, for instance, pass a law that says everyone must attend Sunday Mass or that observing Passover means imprisonment. They can, however, implement laws that also happen to be religious beliefs so long as they don't impede upon the personal or organized establishment of your religion." - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 10:26, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
not really, tbh. they are organizations that take in great sums of money--because they use it for charitable or non-profit work, they aren't taxed. if they start using that money to support political campaigns, then they are a political organization and should be taxed the same as any other political organization.--Reason.decrystallized 10:29, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Actually, yes lol. That wasn't a debate, but putting forth something as fact. My source may be wrong, but it's not overthrown by someone's word alone (no offense to you). I agree, if a church backed an individual for office, they should be taxed. However, I don't believe a minister should be censured in his sermon when discussing two candidates. That is simply outrageous. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:32, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I've not met a minister yet whose "discussion" of two candidates didn't heavily favor one or the other.--Reason.decrystallized 10:34, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
And what would be wrong with that? They are not financially backing a candidate, simply discussing morality of two people running for office. Again, what is wrong with that? ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:36, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I should clarify, "If a church financially backed a candidate for office, then they should be taxed" because at this point, they're using non-taxed money in a political arena. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:38, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
paying for the platform of someone who instructs who instructs his congregation to vote one way or the other is also using non-taxed money in a political arena, i would argue, and "discussion" of relative morality are always--ALWAYS--contains not-so-subtle hints about how 'real christians' should vote.--Reason.decrystallized 10:41, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Perhaps it should be pointed out that being a priest is not a "job". Not being an American, I've heard sweet fuck all about this issue, who exactly is censuring? Is it the Church? If so they have every right. Is it the state? That's a little messed up. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 10:53, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
(EC)"How real Christians should vote" not if you go to a church with a good minister. That's the type of peer pressure you find in highschool, not in churches (or are not supposed to anyway). "Is also using non-taxed money in a political arena" - no, it's in a private, protected environment (unless you're 501c3). This is exactly where, "The state won't influence the church, but the church can the state" comes into play. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 11:01, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Misery, "who exactly is censuring" do you mean who is getting censured or, as it sounds, who is doing the censuring? If it's the former - it's the church. If it's the latter, it's the state saying what a minister can/can't say. They actually have come out now saying (or so I've read in the news) that any minister speaking out against homosexuality (think it's only a particular state..?) can be prosecuted under hate-crimes. Total BS. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 11:04, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I was asking who was doing the censuring. I've always thought large aspects of American law are bizaare, so I'll probably just watch. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 11:13, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
A lot of the 'bizaareness' (if that's a word lol) seem to come from 'interpretation' of previous laws/bills by the courts. It wasn't until I believe 1950 something that lindon bane johnson (then a senator or congressman) authored the 501c3 bill. Supposedly, he wasn't too fond of churches (hear-say) and this was a way to change them from protected to a state mandated 'organization'. Anyway, I'm not looking forward to the way things turn out. Hopefully with the newest justice, things will be a bit more balanced. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 11:18, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Meh. There's a difference between saying "I believe homosexuality is wrong and I want nothing to do with people who practice it." and "Homosexuals are abominations and they deserve unconditional hatred and violence.". Charging a someone for saying the former is an over reaction. Unfortunately, if you want to go by Leviticus, I think it actually says you're allowed to beat homosexual men to death. Interestingly enough it doesn't even mention women. Even Jews like lesbians it seems. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 11:20, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
That's the problem a lot of people get into when referring back to leviticus. It was a covenant which was superceded by the new covenant. In other words, those laws no longer apply (I would assume they do for jews since they don't recognize Jesus as the Son of God - i.e. no new covenant). I think a more accurate interpretation of what is being said is, "Homosexuality is wrong based on this and this, and if you're practicing it, you can not be saved (i.e. living in sin). If you Believe in Christ and wish to be saved, you must give this up". Also, Lesbianism is spoken out against in the new testament: Romans 1:26-27 ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 11:32, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I was talking about what was or wasn't in Leviticus, not the New Testament. I'm pointing out that anyone who believes in what Leviticus says would think it's perfectly reasonable to kill gay men. I think the "mainstream" Catholic church is more in line with the first thing I said, which seems to tie up to what you interpret it as, too. Also, re:Lesbians, I was talking about the Old Testament and you Catholics are party poopers. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 11:49, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
I personally was raised protestant, but, while still believing, am not living as I should so...long story short, my beliefs are protestant and I'm hoping I don't die right now (I have beef with the catholics too...mainly praying to Mary). Yeah, there's a lot of things I wish weren't taboo lol ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 12:01, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
so I hurd the marines change a man... <_< - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 12:02, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
First it was college, and then solidified by the Marines ;-) ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 12:08, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Communism

If you read Faith of the Fallen, Terry Goodkind describes the whole 'no class' society in a pretty concise way. It pretty much takes away from a lot of people's work ethic. People work hard and innovate because it rewards theirselves and their families. Without reaping the rewards of hardwork, entrepreneurs would die. A pure open market society is definitely the best way to go imo. You still reap the rewards of innovation/hard work, and the market drives itself. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 13:28, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Communism is the watchcry of young idealists and old cynical bastards who want to take all the shit for themselves and then not redistribute it. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 13:31, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
perfectly worded...quote or from yours truly? ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 13:33, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
That was me, but I tend to channel greatness so someone probably said it before. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 13:42, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
This is how my history teacher introduced the Cold War to us: I collect antique pocket watches. I think they're among the world's most clever feats of engineering. If I gave one to a gorilla, though, he'd probably smash it with a rock and take a massive shit on it. It's like that with people and Communism. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 19:53, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Pretty much. No one's had a GOOD Communist society yet, so people think it's shit. BTW, antique pocket watches aren't as good as army knives (which I've gotten into collecting). --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:55, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
And you pretty much never will. Communism and people are inherently incompatible. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 19:58, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
This may seem wrong, but Communism and stupid people should never be together. Stalin was stupid as hell, Trotsky got all the ideas. When Stalin had everything he needed, he just killed Trotsky and made himself feel S-M-R-T. Mao was also stupid, that's why he would publically humiliate smart people and send them to do bad jobs where intelligence wasn't needed like, farming or factory work. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:00, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
ups. too bad the point of communism is that stupid people can come to the party, too, instead of sitting in a basement somewhere eating dog food out of a can. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 20:03, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Ups, too bad if a situation is exploitable someone will exploit it. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 20:24, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
Wild Lopunny♂ appeared! - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 20:27, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
ups - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 20:31, 25 July 2008 (EDT)
oh man i wanted a shemale...err..i mean male! --InfestedHydralisk InfestedHydralisk sig2.jpg(Talk*Contributions) 22:37, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

(reset)What form of communism do you support guild? ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:45, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Democommunism as I call it. People still elect their leaders and stuff, but paychecks and such are equal. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 10:46, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
Then I'd become a really easy job, doesn't matter; my pay check is equal anyway ^.^ Brandnew. 10:52, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
In your "decommunism," the problem is that if you're running for office, you, for some strange reason, are desiring a higher level of responsibility and power. OH WAIT. That's how America started. Cedave bad.png ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 15:39, 3 August 2008 (EDT)
Guild, do you see the problem with your idea of democommunism? Sure, there are some people with good work ethic, but others, only work to make mucho bucks. If everyone received the same paycheck, there would not be investments so companies would fail, there would be no drive to improve yourself (higher education) because it's a lot of work without any benefit. There are a myriad of reasons why that simply would not work. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 13:23, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
We've got Welfare in Canada, which is a socialist ideal; if I'm not mistaken. There are some aspects of communism or socialism that are beneficial, but Choytw is right about our pay checks. I think Cuba is the only communist country remaining, and things are okay there. Yes, everyone gets payed a certain amount for necessities, but those that would normally make more can pay for computers, internet, television and other privileges. They also had great Health Care in Cuba, but I think they're short on doctors now. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 13:41, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
PhDs work way too fucking hard for way too little pay, so some people would still do great things, but the majority would become proffessional elevator operators. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 13:43, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Exactly - as for socialism in general, I'd be all for it if you could verify that everyone on it, needed it, and was trying to get off it if they could. Since it is greatly abused (and thus causing those who do need it to be lacking in what they need), I'm more for state funded programs which can be a bit more regulated. Or, perhaps even a way to report those who are abusing the system...just something so that the freeloaders don't break the system. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 13:48, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh, that depends on the country, too. Most countries treat their doctors well in terms of money. In all honesty, though, America's health care system seemed pretty bad compared to most other developed countries. [3] and the movie Sicco apply this. Apparently, the English even pay their patients when they leave the hospital. lolol I wouldn't push communism, but socialist aspects (such as Health Care and Welfare) are great for the country. ــмıкεнaшк 13:53, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Welfare with limits, perhaps; withouth, never. As for health care, it's actually pretty good considering what you get. You have deductibles that have to be paid each year (if you have a 20k procedure, you only pay the first 1,000), which varies between packages - most insurance options come with $20 doctors visits. As far as prescriptions, the high prices are supposedly for research purposes (they do use a lot) but you have to start cutting some of the perks out when people become unable to afford your products. When it comes to life and death, I'm not exactly sure the 'invisible hand' is the best option (let the market set the price). What horror stories have you heard about our health care system? ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 14:01, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Mostly health insurance companies denying health care to people, resulting in their deaths (from Sicco, which isn't a new movie). If it weren't for Canada's free Health Care, my family would probably have been torn apart because of my father's back issues, and we'd be living on the street. He's been on medication (morphine, oxicontent, and some other shit) for 3 or 4 years, and seeing that he can't work, we wouldn't be able to afford all of those drugs. Canada still has a long waiting list for health care, however, because of a shortage of doctors, and health insurance companies also try to scam people out of money/health care here, too. The doctors would have even prescribed medical marijuana for my dad, but he didn't want it. lol ــмıкεнaшк 14:15, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Fucking France sends maids to pregnant women to do their laundry, cook for them and those women still get paid. [4] Then again, France is considered the best country in terms of health care. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 14:23, 6 August 2008 (EDT)
Trust me, if you can't afford to live, medicare has an option for you. We had our last baby when I was making > $20/hour - even still, our entire bills were only a few hundred dollars or so. Also, I'm almost positive that hospitals can not turn someone away if they don't have medical insurance. As for prescription drugs, they are more expensive here because they are regulated. That's the main reason Canada's prescription drugs aren't legal here - the ingredient composition amounts are not always the same. Honestly, when I look at healthcare and compare, I don't just look at cost, but also the quality you get. That doesn't mean cost is no issue, but it has to be put into perspective as to what you get. As for the france example, that's not the federal government's business (as viewed in the states...or at least orignally was framed to be). I feel very strongly that states can offer what they want - people will leave the state if they aren't happy with the level of service, but the federal government should only offer very limited services. Well-fare states breed dependency more than anything else which cripples the people. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 16:45, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

Some people are unable to work, however (my father is disabled, but we get Disability Pension instead of Welfare, but there are sane and physically able people that are just too dumb), and that's when Welfare becomes a life-saver. Imo, spending a little extra on taxes for Welfare and Healthcare is better than forcing people to die on the streets. It also shows in statistics that the US is behind in medical service compared to a lot of developed countries (but Canada is also falling, too). Statistically, I should live 3 years longer than Americans (without considering the differences in life expectancies depending on gendre). >.> Canada has a pretty good quality of life (it's actually right behind the U.S.' [5]), but our health system is suffering due to the lack of doctors, and too many inconsiderate bastards living here. lol ــмıкεнaшк 17:16, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

The mentally retarded are covered as well. If you're talking about laziness, then screw them. I don't think people should die because of lack of money - that's where the states step in - it's their job to provide a basic standard of living. As for how long you'll live, that's a bit unfair. You have now stopped comparing the medical system and brought in the lifestyles of a lot of US citizens. If you eat MDs everyday for your whole life (or are just generally overweight), then it doesn't matter how good the health care system is - you're screwed lol. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 17:54, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
I only eat MD's once every month-ish. My brother even worked at one, and I still only had it about once every week or two. The government should promote Wiis to get people off their asses. lol ــмıкεнaшк 18:03, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
honestly, it's sad that a Wii can get a lot of people's heart rates up...I may be sore after playing with the girls because I'm moving in ways I don't normally...but a tool to get into shape? LMAO ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 17:48, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

Old discussion, I know, but I think that Communism has never actually existed; rather it's been used as a buzzword for a group of radical dictators to lead a revolution and take control. It's kind of like Goldstein's book from 1984; a group of people dupe the proletariat into seizing power under the guise of revolution, but all it does is secure a regime change for the leaders of the revolution. Never since hunter-gatherer times has humanity ever been in a state of true egalitarianism or anything close to communism; the very existence of the State requires either oppressed masses or a social contract which exchanges some liberty for security. Finding the right balance between these two is the what we should be concerned with, and I personally believe that Western European nations are on a better track than America, at least on the health care issue. --Snakes on a Wii 18:02, 30 December 2008 (EST)

You

I pretty much agree with everything you said. Cept for To Catch a Predator... what NBC does on that show is borderline illegal... what they do is entrapment, and its very wrong (but funny). Also republicans arent bad! they jsut see the world as a company, which it is --Bim sig.PNGBim (talk|contribs) 00:20, 27 July 2008 (EDT)

Bad Company, until the day I die, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 00:21, 27 July 2008 (EDT)
And if I had those golden dreams of my yesterday's, I would wrap you in the heaven 'til I'm dying on the way. Feel like makin love DUN DUNNA DUN DUNNA DUN. - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 10:50, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
If it's the show that I'm thinking about, it's worth it to get a child molestor off the streets and into jail. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 10:54, 29 July 2008 (EDT)
This is John McMolestor. He approached our undercover agent in a chat room after hearing she was a 12 year old who spent a lot of time at home alone on the internet. He invited us out here to this secluded corner of the park. This is Charles McSharpshooter, a trained military sniper. He's going to sit up in that tree over there and reenact a scene from Full Metal Jacket. Let's watch, shall we? - PANIC! Panic sig4.png sexiness! 11:14, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Ursan

Of course it's effective, that's the problem. It's too easy. While not being hard per se, PvE used to at least take small amounts of planning to win elite areas. With Ursan, PvE becomes akin to an old-school fighting game-you can do well if you're an actually good player, but any random noob can just mash buttons and win just as easily without knowing why. Which is a bit of a problem. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 16:30, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

It isn't a problem unless it affects the people who don't run it. I'm sure it does have some negative effects on the economy and PUGs, so we do have a reason to whine about it, but no one likes whiners. XD ــмıкεнaшк 16:46, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
By that reasoning, perma-SF was perfectly fine O_o ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 17:57, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
I didn't care about perma-sin. Cheap ectos mean I can buy elite armor cheaper. - Miserysig1.jpgisery (TALK) 18:10, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
quite overpowered (prior to re-nerf) imo--TheNoobPolice 18:22, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Dejh, I meant quite the opposite of what you're saying. Perma-SF had a HUGE impact on the economy, so it had to be nerfed. Ursan isn't as overpowered as SF was (kind of still is), and balanced teams can do just as well in a lot of areas. ــмıкεнaшк 19:24, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
First off, PvE isn't supposed to be a challenge. You complete the campaigns, lose interest in it, go to PvP, and switch to PvE to farm or to cap skills. Second, if you find Ursan "takes the fun out of PvE" or "Make PvE easy", then you're sense of fun is whacked. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 19:45, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
I haven't actually played PvE in maybe 6 months, so it has no impact on my fun. I just don't like seeing all the noobs being able to win at high end areas without knowing wtf they're doing. This way, they skip to the 'get bored and go PvP part' while not actually knowing how to use real skills. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 20:16, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
so what your saying is, ultimatly, that ursan pve groups create groups of ppl who un-adapt themselves to PvP so it floods more "noobs" into the PvP circulation, making it easier 4 the hardcore PvP'ers tht get bored of PvP and over estimate PvE, go back, find themselves killing much faster, returning to PvP, by tht time the PvE'ers have gotten their PvP skills back, pwn them, go back to PvE....--TheNoobPolice 20:21, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm assuming there's probably logic in there, but it's well hidden. Here's the short version: The easier PvE is, the less people learn from it. People learn even less when they only use the 5 Ursan skills, so that's 2 ways it causes the same problem :\ You're supposed to learn from PvE before coming to PvP. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 20:27, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
ANet needs to implement a new PvP training course, imo. It should teach basics such as kiting, bodyblocking, etc.--ιtокагџ ιѕ ѕяѕвѕлѕ, малItokaruSignature.jpg 20:35, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
That's the Isle of the Nameless. Still, that stuff doesn't teach shit about PvP. It doesn't even tell you what "splitting" is. --GoD Wario Sig.PNG*Wah Wah Wah!* 20:39, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
And people don't HAVE to take the course, iirc. They should make it required so that everyone knows the basics.--ιtокагџ ιѕ ѕяѕвѕлѕ, малItokaruSignature.jpg 20:47, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
i remember back in the day you had to do something before moving on, i forget what though. it was wierd--TheNoobPolice 21:03, 30 July 2008 (EDT)
Presearing? XD ــмıкεнaшк 21:04, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

Lol xD --ιtокагџ ιѕ ѕяѕвѕлѕ, малItokaruSignature.jpg 21:34, 30 July 2008 (EDT)

lolwut--TheNoobPolice 16:37, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
My only irk with Ursan is the thought process that a lot of PUGs have developed, whereas you aren't good unless you're r10. I promise you, I can run a number of builds and be a lot better than any r10 Ursan. Of course, I guess even I'd rather have my tank running Ursan than Hamstorm. Cedave bad.png ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 00:29, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

John McCain

You said it twice =P ViYsig5.jpgV i Y 17:32, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

He deserves it twice then XD --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 17:37, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Obsing

Agreeing that its boring as hell. GW isn't football, you can't have a good time on it with a group of friends, an HDTV, and a ton of moutain dew and doritos. Instead you're sitting on your computer, watching a bunch of people run around in GW apprently using their "skills" to beat each other up. -Jax010//healingp=0 21:08, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

Dutch

What's so annoying about them (us)? I can understand the intolerable to other people part, but Dutch are some of the most tolerable people in the world. Dragnmn talk cont 11:48, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

Lolmissingthepoint. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby.gif 11:50, 28 October 2008 (EDT)
Nvm. Dragnmn talk cont 13:42, 28 October 2008 (EDT)


Communism

Finally someone who doesn't hate communists.. Nice to see someone who knows how it should be.. Fjodor 14:16, 2 December 2008 (EST)

I extend the same comment to you. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 15:07, 2 December 2008 (EST)
Go Marxism/Socialism! I love living in a red state sometimes because of the hypocrisy. Christians get pissed when I tell them that socialism was created by a Christian as an ideal, Utopian, Christian government. Free market apparently equals Jesus....somehow. Xsig.png 15:11, 2 December 2008 (EST)
gtfo imo Tai sig Image 78.png 15:53, 2 December 2008
Que? Xsig.png 15:54, 2 December 2008 (EST)
People dont hate communism b/c they assume it is evil/stalin/USSR/NUKES. They hate it because it is the most fucking retarded structure you could possibly fathom... WTF is this religion shit im reading up there? Christians (REAL christains, not some guy who went to church and drinks on Christmas) are retarded, socialists are semi-retarded and communists are the most retarded. Where is the motivation in communism? I can sit on my ass and be a fucking store clerk and make as much as my neighbor, a doctor, who works his ass off. It only works on small scale where the motivation is to survive (like a tribe). Communism blows. Anarchy is the best, a true free market. You do what ever the fuck you want. Communism is not freedom, you still live for the man, only the man doesn't exist. Communism turns you into a tool for nobody... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski and http://www.punkerslut.com/main.html read my good man... 70.22.192.173 17:03, 24 December 2008 (EST)
You own. — Skakid Rally- kupo!S9M.png 17:06, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Indeed. Mr. Big 19px 17:07, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Wow burn --Frosty 17:11, 24 December 2008 (EST)
communists ... drank their own kool-aid, to put it mildly. but faith in the free market? is this the same free market that is now collapsing because it made excessive unregulated loans to poor people at exorbitant interest rates, or some theoretical ideal of a free market that has never actually existed in the real world but in your head is as beautiful as the communist ideal was to its blind worshipers?--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 20:23, 24 December 2008 (EST)
you make good points about the blind thing. Touche, touche. However i do want to make the point that America still remains the number 1 economy in the world. Many think that China or Japan has a better economy than us, but they dont. The Free market is without a doubt the best system in place. Is there a system that is better but just hasn't been thought up? probably, but until someone thinks it up and publishes it, Capitalism/Free market is the best. The Anarchy comment was just to give the best example of a free market. The stability and viability of anarchy is doubtful. 70.22.192.173 21:06, 24 December 2008 (EST)
You mistake the reality of communism for the concept. The idea of communism-everyone working for the good of everyone, doing what they can and no one being rewarded more for having different talents-is a nice idea, and would be great if implemented. The retarded thing is assuming that communism is possible. No country ever has, or ever will, be truly communist, because, as you point out, people will always want to exploit the system. You point out the ideal parts of a free market, while pointing out the realities of communism, which isn't completely fair. Also, a major reason that other countries are also in economic trouble is because the U.S. has/had the largest economy for quite some time, and other economies have come to rely on our success for a guaranteed market, so their success is more based on ours, rather than how well their economy actually preforms. The reason that free market is successful is based on a cynical, but accurate, observation of human nature: that people won't be motivated to do anything unless it is profitable for them to do so. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Communism works fine if all the basics were met. Friendly person in high place of government power, people as friendly as the Who in Whoville, all working hand in hand and not being greedy bastards. Too bad people are, well, greedy bastards. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 07:19, 25 December 2008 (EST)
'Too bad people are greedy bastards'... It is animal instinct to be a greedy bastard. All living organisms compete with each other and will put each other down in a heart beat. Two lions will duke it out for food. Kindness does not exist naturally in the animal kingdom (mostly...). 70.22.253.92 18:17, 25 December 2008 (EST)
which is kinda why libertarianism and anarchy are pretty much as foredoomed as communism ...--reason.decrystallized I frenzy-healsig. 19:22, 25 December 2008 (EST)
Perfect Communism in an imperfect world... hmm... yep! Ain't happenin'... --Phoenicia1337 16:24, 28 December 2008 (EST)
I'm not sure why you said that sarcastically, as you just agreed with everything that was said. Sarcasm is typically used to disagree. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 22:48, 28 December 2008 (EST)
why dont we just put everyone in a cage and have them beat the crap out of each other? JebusJebussigchristmas.JPGMcMouseContests 23:28, 28 December 2008 (EST)
good idea 70.22.232.90 15:40, 30 December 2008 (EST)

POKEMANS

They're up to movie 13 now iirc. JebusJebussigchristmas.JPGMcMouseContests 09:35, 25 December 2008 (EST)

give me download links to all the ones with piplup in them Cute McMonkey.pngChristmas Tab Rally-kupo! 09:35, 25 December 2008 (EST)
don't give yourself an orgasm. JebusJebussigchristmas.JPGMcMouseContests 09:37, 25 December 2008 (EST)
"Other appearances: Super Smash Bros. Brawl: On being released from a Poké Ball, Piplup slides along the stage using Surf. Anyone caught in it will be pushed, possibly off the stage." obaby JebusJebussigchristmas.JPGMcMouseContests 09:39, 25 December 2008 (EST)

Separation of Church and Skate

I have come to realize that the other side don't really believe in it. Rather, they believe that we are a "Christian Nation" (if you engage them on this front, you will find the same denialist tactics they use with AGW and Evolution), and that "Freedom of Religion" means that different Christian denominations can be free from each other. Really. At least that's what some crazy Paultard of a teacher told me in high school. --Snakes on a Wii 18:06, 30 December 2008 (EST)

I just don't like how we consider ourselves a "diverse nation" and a "Christian nation" at the same time. The nation has all religions, from Christianity to Scientology. If there was ever a non-Christian man or woman to run for president, they'd be boo'd by everyone else because they don't believe the same stuff us them. --GoD Hammer and Sickle.jpg Guild of Deals 09:25, 31 December 2008 (EST)
Yeah, there's pretty much a de facto religious test to be president, even though the constitution prohibits it. Some polls show that a majority of Americans would not vote for an atheist, while a large portion consider atheists to "not at all agree with my vision of American society". --Snakes on a wii sig.jpg Snakes on a Wii 14:58, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Religion is the root to all evil Frostrage.jpgFrosty po! 14:59, 31 December 2008 (EST)


LOST IN A SEA OF COMBAT BOOTS skakid9090 22:24, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

lol

  • You spend forever talking about things you hate. Sure thats funny. But then you say that you hate people that can't spell, but you spelled the word "BUY" wrong about 12 times in just one paragraph. You spelled it "by" every time. Its about time you fix it before everyone else realizes the stupidity. Ranting=Funny only if you don't mess it up. The Immolate Invert.jpg Wojo 21:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nvm, someone did ages ago and you didnt fix it The Immolate Invert.jpg Wojo 21:09, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
random troll is random? Adorably shocked mcmonkey sig.png(21:15, 20 February 2009 - )
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