BYOB Guild forming

I've decided to form up a BYOB guild because I have a spare guild pre-tanked to 985 rating lying around, I expect it to go lower. Anyone is welcome to join and you will get play time. I don't care if you have ever GvGed before, I'll tell you what you need to know, what I care is that you listen and play seriously, even though BYOB isn't that serious. I don't care about losing, I don't care about rating, but I do care about you wasting my and everyone's time. I intend to play whenever an officer and 3 other willing members are online and have the time for at least one match. Heroes or guests will come. Joining requirements are Ventrilo, a working microphone is optional, but you will be pipped for people who have working mics if you don't have one. I don't even really care if I hate you, you can join and play, but if after playing with you I continue to hate you, you will be kicked. When we are BYOBing the build requirements are damage (unless you are the monk) and a speed boost, past that I don't really care what you run and I won't be too critical of builds before you run them, but if your build gets proven to be a pile of ass (you get soloed by a knight or archer), you will change it, or you won't play .Self healing is recommended, especially for beginners who haven't learnt to not die yet.

If you haven't GvGed in a while or ever and want to get into it, this is a good chance because I intend to run real builds if we ever get 6-8 people I trust. If you aren't willing to leave your guild you are welcome to try for guests, but my flist is pretty full and I make no promises. I'm a euro and all the officers at the moment are euros, so if you are American, expect to play weird hours at our whim or not at all. If you want to join, contact me in game (IGN:Fail Was Misery), on msn ( Feel free to leave questions, comments, flames or IGNs for guests on this talk. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 14:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Sounds tempting. ---Chaos- 14:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
If I ever had time to GvG, I would definitely join this. I hope you guys have fun. KJ needed a new sig....sig 15:08, 17 March 2009
I'm down. I'll send you a PM concerning the odd hours because I'm not euro. IGN: Eighth Octavarium. Shino sig 15:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
obaby, shove dagger warriors. <3 Brandnew. 15:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Echo Arcane Echo Infuse Health Auspicious Incantation Illusion of Haste Dismiss Condition Holy Veil Optional

Is this strong enough? 15:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

usofunny ---Chaos- 15:24, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Where is the damage faggot? Misery CowMisery Says Moo 16:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
nou, and monks/Infuse spammers are exempt from the damage rule. 16:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Can I guest and flame Rawrawr Dinosaur 15:57, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Guest me too :>. --Crowels[슴Mc슴]Mootles 16:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
c co. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 16:30, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

You can also pm the good doctor, IGN:Dr J Pianc. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 16:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm happy to guest if you need a player during dead times. ~ Tycncookiesig Tycn [a] 08:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

If you let me run my RtL warrior, sure. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 09:40, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Will it be brave like IS byob? Lord of all tyria 17:27, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Braver. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 18:41, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

You still doing this? Supa balla 19:02, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


Dear Misery,

I miss you very much. Please stop having the viral resistance of a 6 year old girl with AIDS.

- Panic sig7 11:59, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Dear Panic,

I woke up. Please go fuck yourself.

Misery CowMisery Says Moo 13:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Dear Misery,

I am glad you have resumed life in a more vertical position. Please get better quickly so you can fuck me instead.

- Panic sig7 13:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Dear Misery,

You need to eat more tonic omeletes such as ginseng omeletes and assorted chinese herbs omeletes to build up your resistance.

GTFO, 15:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

ZOMG! Sock of a perma'd user! Misery CowMisery Says Moo 15:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It's not a sock. It's a dynamic IP. Silly misery. 15:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Misery forget all that all you need is a bottle of expensive wine....that will cure ya.Xtreme Hunter 15:38, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
no, gluhwein is a far superior cure for a cold-type virus. - Panic sig7 15:50, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
STOP BEING BAD AND LINK ME TO THE FUCKING FORUMS! Misery CowMisery Says Moo 15:51, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


Just a question cause I want to do things right....can anyone remove a Well tag and can anyone load a Well tag?Xtreme Hunter 23:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Anyone can add a WELL tag and anyone except people who have edited the build extensively (known as "build authors") can remove it. After addition it's usually better to discuss it a bit and reach concensus before removing it. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 14:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
TY...Xtreme Hunter 15:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Misery you asked me to inform you if I suspect something out of Relyk....There seems to be a IP that is following me as if they are a non-member and talking like they know this Wiki. I hate to think it might be Relyk but I have a doubt. As you most likely saw from the RC my new build is getting the same attention as my prior. FYIXtreme Hunter 22:07, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
It is not Relyk, if Relyk wants to troll you he will do it under his own name. ;) It seems, IP which is "stalking" you belongs to user named Cedave who for some unknown reason decides not to use his Username at all. Evidence can be found here. --Anonimous. D: 22:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
LOL220.255.7.178 22:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you...why is a coward afraid to face me...a new user?Xtreme Hunter 22:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
my gut was wrong I am sorry Relyk.Xtreme Hunter 22:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Showing your IP is actually braver than showing an IGN, because your IP shows where you live, your IGN shows nothing. Stop being dumb with your bad builds and nobody will bother with you tbh. 22:44, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi xtreme, i redirect my ips to my userpage--Relyk 07:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. -- 09:18, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

WELL misconduct

Why did you delete my build without first discussing the problem? It was marked with a WELL tag less than 2 hours ago, with no reason given or discussion. No consensus was reached by anyone. The only reason given on the tag was "sup." The build:Build:E/Mo Droks Survivor Support|Droks Survivor Support Chashak 16:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

thats indeed a shitty reason to WELL it :/ Hydra 16:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
oh, was it some build to keep survivors alive at droks runs? if so, its not really necessary to keep it on pvx as it will lower ur income and its really a players choice to take along Hydra 16:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Still, though, deleting it immediately wasn't the way to go. We have policies against that. If people think it should go, then fine. However, it was not discussed and the reason was never laid out beforehand. Its not the result, but the method that bothers me. Chashak 16:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Because your build was bad and useless why plague testing sections with inferior builds that are going to be trashed anyway? Misery is good admin, you wont do his/her job better so shut up and get lost. --Anonimous. D: 16:35, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
This is simply a guideline, not a rule. And clearly inferior builds are at the discretion of the admins to delete. My advice: Just get over it. Oh, and Anon, Mis is a guy. KJ needed a new sig....sig 16:37, 21 March 2009
Misery did say why "(Deletion log); 07:57 . . Misery (Talk | contribs) deleted "Build:E/Mo Droks Survivor Support" (WELL - Inferior: Absolutely no need for this at all in any way shape or form. Just be competent, then you don't have to pay double for your runs.)" --Drah McNinja 16:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks KJ, I was wondering that for very long time now. --Anonimous. D: 16:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh and this isn't a guideline -> [1] read the bottom of that section carefully. --Drah McNinja 16:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Misery, you forgot the talkpage. :< Brandnew. 16:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

also, tl;dr @ rest of topic. Brandnew. 16:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
anon stfu with the NPA Hydra 16:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
What NPA? Calling a build bad isn't a personal attack. It's an opinion. KJ needed a new sig....sig 16:42, 21 March 2009
(EC ×1)Where do you see NPA Hydra? I haven't insulted him personally in any way. Stop whining. --Anonimous. D: 16:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Misery is good admin, you wont do his/her job better so shut up and get lost. Hydra 16:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
This is not NPA. --Anonimous. D: 16:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
actually it is, ur actually saying him to fuck off Hydra 16:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Apart from the bit where he isn't. GOGO QUOTE. Lord of all tyria 16:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Where exactly am I telling him to "fuck off"?? Shut up Hydra, stop whining. --Anonimous. D: 16:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
read again... so shut up and get lost Hydra 16:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
That's still not a personal attack. A personal attack is like saying, "you're an ugly cock-jockey". "Shut up and get lost" is a suggestion. KJ needed a new sig....sig 16:52, 21 March 2009
Hudra, there is no "fuck off" in "so shut up and get lost" you are seeing things. Even if it included "fuck off" it wouldn't be NPA. --Anonimous. D: 17:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
its most likely the same :/ and it IS NPA as ur offensive against him. npa isnt just calling names :/ Hydra 17:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
What is considered a personal attack. "Shut up and get lost" isn't on the list, tbh. KJ needed a new sig....sig 17:19, 21 March 2009
(EC ×1)NPA = No Personal Attacks so I dont know what you're jabbering here, fuck off. --Anonimous. D: 17:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
the user was just asking for something to clear it out and ur starting with shut up and get lost. how are u not offensive? Hydra 17:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Who cares? Misery can't spam distortion as well as me. Lord of all tyria 16:54, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

While we generally try and wait at least a day for deleting things for WELL, there's nothing to say we can't delete it immediately. Yes the reason put on the WELL tag (which was added by Tab) could hvae been much better, Misery clarified that when he deleted (as mentioned above). I got the talk page in any case. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:02, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Technically, this says you're supposed to wait.....but as I said earlier, guidelines aren't rules. And Mis did a good job deleting this, imo. KJ needed a new sig....sig 17:08, 21 March 2009
Hold on a sec here...........................................Misery is a guy?Xtreme Hunter 17:10, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
yes. --Drah McNinja 17:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
No. Lord of all tyria 17:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

So, hydra, we should call NPA on every person who use STFU, shut up, get lost, go away, scram, or even use PvX:STFU when it used to be called that way. 17:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

(EC)The point of that part of the policy is, is to allow the Author to get to grips with why it was WELLed. While the WELL tag itself was useless in terms of reasoning, Misery gave a good reason with his deletion, which should suffice in this case. ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 17:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree, Phen. And Hydra is just being a bitch, tbh. He thinks that defending newer users is in some way not patronizing them. To me, being patronized is far more insulting than saying "shut up and get lost". KJ needed a new sig....sig 17:23, 21 March 2009
Hydra was trying to tell him not to be so harsh...didn't have to say that.Xtreme Hunter 17:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
what extreme said Hydra 17:32, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to register my astonishment that anyone would think Misery is of the male persuasion. She definitely wasn't last night, ifyunowatimean. -Auron 17:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Zzzzz, summary: WELL states that the build can be deleted at any time without notice, sufficient time is only required so that the build author can understand why the build was deleted. I know the author was aware of the WELL tag, because he commented on it. The reason was pretty bad, but the tag was valid so I expanded in the deletion reason. Telling someone to GTFO or STFU is not a personal attack, it's not nice, but the policy is not PvX:Please Be Nice Boys And Girls, it's no personal attacks, no one attacked anyone personally here. If you want further expansion on the deletion reasoning, I will give it, but basically I consider above to be a big pile tl;dr fail. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 18:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

quick beating around the're a chick right?Xtreme Hunter 18:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

This is like one of those shit arguementsi used to have :o And whats tl;dr mean? :| i first saw it earlier todays :o — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 18:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Too long; didn't read. ĐONT*SYSOP 18:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
when did that start gettign used? — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 19:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
couple of weeks ago. --Drah McNinja 19:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
origin? — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 19:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
tl;dr has been used for months upon months tbh. --- VipermagiSig -- (contribs) (talk) 19:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
tl;dr came from ebaumsworld several years (yes years) ago, then 4chan popularized it, and now people think it's part of the standard internet lingo. -Auron 01:59, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

To clear any confusion, misery is a girl from New Zealand out of water in Germany, desperately seeking an e-knight. Lord of all tyria 19:27, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

misery says IT works in electro-chemistry in germany — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 19:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

This whole section, apart from LoaT's comment, is why people drive their retarded babies out to the countryside and leave them for the wolves. - Panic sig7 19:34, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh so you are a fan of 300 the movie?Xtreme Hunter 22:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
madness.. Hydra 22:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
300 was probably one of the worst movies Zack Snyder's done. It was like watching someone play on those custom starcraft maps where you build a defense wall and try to survive swarms of different units. Any parts that weren't from the original story stuck out like a sore thumb because they were tacked on as an afterthought. - Panic sig7 10:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 :0 buts THIS IS SPARTAAA!!!! > Panic — LukeJohnson LJ BS Sig 10:51, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Bad movies can have good catchphrases and memes. - Panic sig7 13:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
most memorable part of 300. that song is hawt. --Mafaraxas 23:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
sunken defense is gud 1 yes? Hydra 16:07, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You guys amuse me, you really do. I just thought you should know that. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 02:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

See im not the only one that thinks ur reasons suck :D--Relyk 23:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Actually Relyk, people are complaining about Tab's reasoning in the tag, no one has complained about my deletion reason at all, so GTFO imo. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 23:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Oh i thought you tagged it. fail reading lulz--Relyk 23:50, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Vote on Build:Mo/Rt RoD Splinter

I like how you tried to sign at the end of your vote. Drah McNinja 21:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I do not believe for a moment that I voted on that a month ago... Misery CowMisery Says Moo 21:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
chances are you didn't, but any votes made before the move now have a time stamp at ~20th Feb '09. (same with removals). ~ PheNaxKian Sysop 22:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Unban me from channel pls

--71.22bad 10:45, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Disregard. --71.22penitent 10:53, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 :o) Cute McMonkeyTab 11:19, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 :o) --71.229 11:30, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Panic babies - Panic sig7 14:33, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey Big, could you stop spamming on talk pages? Misery Says Moo 17:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

nou. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 00:07, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

mo!? Cute McMonkeyTab 09:28, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

I wish I had heard your voice sooner Exo Oo 15:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh you. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 15:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Cute McMonkeyTab 15:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

12 gold! First bid! Misery CowMisery Says Moo 16:01, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


- Panic sig7 15:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Dear Misery

You have won the auction. Please contact Tab Now Please ingame to pay for your vent recording. Cute McMonkeyTab 16:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Mis

You have a beautiful singing voice <3--Goldenstar 00:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Goldenstar. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 06:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

To Mr Mizzles

art_buneary%5B1%5D.png Sincerely, ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 12:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


u still doing it?--Relyk 07:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Misery CowMisery Says Moo 08:41, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
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