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Test: Readem 01:04, 2 May 2007 (CEST) Test: Readem (talk*contribs) 01:05, 2 May 2007 (CEST)

Woot, it works, yeah! Readem (talk*contribs) 01:08, 2 May 2007 (CEST)

Here comes trouble. ;-) - Kowal Krowman (talkcontribs) 07:21, 3 May 2007 (CEST)

Imao, shhh Multi-tasking! On Guild wiki too :D Readem (talk*contribs) 07:25, 3 May 2007 (CEST)

(Insert relevant comment here) - Skakid9090 00:04, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

(Insert irrelevant and offtopic yet humorous response here) --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 00:08, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Gah, you guys are not getting the point Imao... Readem (talk*contribs) 02:16, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Relevant LOL. - Skakid9090 02:24, 8 May 2007 (CEST)
Sorry, I guess what I ask for is too much ;) lol... Readem (talk*contribs) 02:27, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Gonna lawl when Solus takes his rant against your irrelevance over to this wiki... - Kowal Krowman (talkcontribs) 07:29, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

It'll happen lol. *shrug* Readem (talk*contribs) 07:30, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

SOLUS SMASH *BOOM* - Skakid9090 23:38, 8 May 2007 (CEST)

Heh. This is Les Bos!!!! Anyway, mind if I steal that Userbox? Ni sigNi 06:22, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

You can burn it, blow it up, sell it on Ebay, I really don't care. Cuz whatever, I do what I want :p. Readem (talk*contribs) 08:34, 12 May 2007 (CEST)

Looks like we have a very observant user here :) -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 21:37, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Votes

lmao, I got 0. There is no way I can lose XD. Readem (talk*contribs) 19:27, 13 May 2007 (CEST)

Dang it, you beat me! I got 0 as well. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 21:49, 13 May 2007 (CEST)

Lottery

If you got 0 as your lottery ticket, please visit vote page again and re-vote. We are sorry for inconveniences. GCardinal 23:30, 13 May 2007 (CEST)

But now I have to give away personal info! I know your ways! You can't get me!!! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:11, 14 May 2007 (CEST)

Newer New New Sig Testing

Newer New Test 1: Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:12, 14 May 2007 (CEST)

Yep, it works. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 04:22, 14 May 2007 (CEST)
Since people ignore it anyway, I am changing my sig back, w/ the exception of the pvx contribs part ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:53, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
What was the difference? ^_^ <embarrased> -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs)
Exactly ;P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:01, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
Oh oh I know! The testing one linked to GuildWiki while the current one is linking to PvX wiki user pages. Do I get to become a soviet spy for figuring that out? :P -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 03:07, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
Nope, you do get a CooKie though ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:08, 24 May 2007 (CEST)
"In Soviet Russia, people spy spies!" :( -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 03:15, 24 May 2007 (CEST)

What happened, Readem? Did some noob like screw up some elite mission or something? :( -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 01:41, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Worst. Met two Flare Spammer Tanks in RA...in a row...with no res... :) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:44, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Aww, poor Readem :P You know who I teamed with in RA once? Well, it was this random assassin. We won the first round but I realized he was kind of crappy, so I made him ping his build (which took forever for that noob to do). And what were the results? The 8 skill slots consisted of 4 lead attacks, 1 offhand, and 3 dual attacks, with no rez, no shadowstep, no self defense. Needless to say, the next round did not go well. ^_^ -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 03:05, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Monks

On Build talk:Mo/Me Mighty LoD Party Healer, you claimed that Healing Breeze and Orison of Healing sucked too much to be on any monk bar. I have to ask how long you've been monking and if you've ever tried monking without a battery. Breeze alone is generally enough to keep a guy's health at the same level for those ten seconds, leaving you to spike-heal someone in the meantime, and Orison is just a strong, staple, cheap, and spammable heal. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 20:34, 17 May 2007 (CEST)

Copying from my user page (as you missed my talk :P)
Lolz, HB and OoH are some of the worst healing skills out there. If one was to caculate the health healed by HB and its energy cost, it is a HUGE waste. OoH is just horrible...Dwayna's kiss is better in every way. Oh and if you want to see my monk, he's on my G wiki Page. Here's the link: Readem Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:35, 17 May 2007 (CEST)
But Dwayna's Kiss can't target yourself, and Orison can. It's a waste of a skill that can't save yourself when you need it. As for Breeze, you get +9 regen, which is more than enough to counter most hexes and a bunch of conditions - even when there's two or three of either or both. And I can't look at your user page on guildwiki because my school uses a blocker. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 00:03, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

That's no problem. HB is 9 regen for 10 energy though. It is a complete waste of energy, and has been proven to be so. OoH may be able to heal yourself, but if a Monk needs a self heal then Touch is the way to go. I'll upload an image for you if necessary. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:10, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

Meh... I like my skill choices. You go with yours. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 02:39, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
Lol, ok. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:43, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
Don't bring Healing Breeze.... It's an energy-inefficient slow heal that gets you killed more often then it heals you due to all the enchantment shattering around. Orison can be okay (though I prefer Words of Comfort and/or Dwayna's Kiss) but please leave Healing Breeze to the 55 monks. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 06:36, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
But in PvE there isn't that much enchantment shattering, and it's a great counter to the random degen you find... It heals just as much as a Heal Other, and let's be honest, do you want to wait ten seconds and throw Heal Other on a guy after he's had time to degen, when he's low on health and vulnerable to spikes? Skills are created for reasons. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 20:05, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

Healing breeze at 9 is 180 points of retro active healing, with a 20% enchantment extender it goes up to 198 points for 10 energy. The strength of Healing breeze is that you can cast it and then go focus on someone else who needs healing. In PVE I often pack healing breeze and healing seed and dump it on my tank, and I don't have to worry about them for 12 seconds and I can work on the rest of the party. With blessed aura it comes on par with Shield of Regen... Shireen 20:34, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

Exactly my thoughts. Now try it with 16 healing prayers, which I pack (as I'm a pure healer in PvE most of the time). -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 20:41, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
No doubt it is good for PvE, but in PvP... er.... no. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 20:43, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
I never made any claims that it was good in PvP. In fact, we owned a GvG HB wammo pretty fast, and a match or two later we owned a team with a monk with HB. Shatter Enchantment came in handy as I remember.
Any non-prot monk in pretty much any non-RA PvP with enchantments will cause his team to fail. Regen is handy, but enchant removal is just too popular. Prot enchants don't generally last long enough to be removed, though. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 20:48, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

Why doesn't Ethereal Light get any love huh. :( It's a GREAT spammable heal and it heals for a lot more than Dwayna's or crappy Orison and it can also be used as a self heal. Sure it gets interrupted sometimes but it's just a matter of getting used to and pairing it with healing touch for self heals not to mention HP or LoD can also be used as self heals. The first time I decided to replace orison from my WoH build's bar with Ethereal light turned out to be the best decision I ever made in my monking career. I'm never going back to Orison again...Just try it. -Mooo 21:02, 21 May 2007 (CEST)

I only use Light with Healer's Boon... Thus making it a quick, cheap spike heal. I do like Orison's recharge, though. If Glimmer were back to its one second recharge I'd be using it instead of WoH. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 22:32, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
Etheral Light gets tonnes of attention in Healer's Boon builds :) And plus, just visit my user page for a B/P build... the monk on it has ethereal and no orison :P -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 00:11, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
Eh, Dwayna's is 1337. 700 point heals in DoA. EL is good tho, for an HB Monk that is. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:35, 22 May 2007 (CEST)

Sandbox

Can I ask why you are creating GuildWiki:sandbox:sandbox instead of using PvXwiki:Sandbox? --MasterPatricko 11:56, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

It was linked to from the s&f page. -Auron 13:34, 18 May 2007 (CEST)
I don't pay attention to such minor things as that :p. Guild wiki SB, PvX SB, I use both anywayz lol. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 15:39, 18 May 2007 (CEST)

Sysoption

Wanna be my guinea pig? o.O - Kowal Krowman (talkcontribs) 09:02, 19 May 2007 (CEST)

I have no idea what that means, but whatever lol. Sure. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 09:13, 19 May 2007 (CEST)
Guinea Pig = Scapegoat for testing. And thanks for agreeing with me on the vote thing :P I was thinking of starting an unofficial revote, but oh well. I think that if the real policy is not voted out in the best, most eligible way possible... We will just end up how GuildWiki did. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 13:43, 19 May 2007 (CEST)

UHSP?

WASP I'm using Ward Against
Stupid People!

-Auron 16:21, 21 May 2007 (CEST)
rofl. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:35, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
It's not working. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 04:29, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
Hmmm... an elitist skill with an elitist acronym.  ;) DE Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 04:32, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
It never does work. And why do I always get into edit conflicts O.o? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:34, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
Because you are, as Skuld the Quick would say, "Too Slow!" DE Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 04:34, 22 May 2007 (CEST)
*Shrug* I am in no rush. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:38, 22 May 2007 (CEST)

IW guide

If you are doing an IW guide, I would like to help out. They are some of my favorite builds to run. So if you need something, just ask. Shireen 06:22, 24 May 2007 (CEST)

If you'd like, I can help get you started with a basic template. --Mgrinshpon (C/T) 01:16, 31 May 2007 (CEST)

Generic Res

From what I see, it seems they want to do away with generic res, just ftr. -(єronħ) no u 03:20, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

Why? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:24, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
Dunno, sounds like theyéd rather have us actually put a real resurrect skill in. -(єronħ) no u 04:39, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
If you want to try coding it in, be my guest. Though I have to agree with Cardinal that it's not a skill, and it's just as easy to put in a res/sunspear sig and make a note that you can bring any type of res. Not too difficult and with the way PvXcode works it looks a lot better. (I abhor the blankness of the optional slot, too...) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 16:55, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

SPIES!!!

You should definately add me. My parents were both born in the former Soviet Union (mother from Moscow, father from Leningrad). I speak russian as well. --Mgrinshpon (C/T) 04:30, 25 May 2007 (CEST)

That does seem like a good reason... my grandad was in the CIA... =P ~~User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk···contributions) 04:34, 25 May 2007 (CEST)
Dobro dosli —SigmA 06:51, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

User Page

Ow. My eyes. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 08:33, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

XD. My Guild Wiki one does the same thing :p. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 08:36, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Well, if I had anything else to do...but of course I don't lol. Oh well. Guess, I'll just fix builds...um comment I dunno lol. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 08:56, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Ugh... Could you, perhaps, change some colours? :) -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:00, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Yes! I have once again blinded users w/ my vibrant page ;P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 19:13, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

MSN Messenger

Do you have an account? If so, would you mind getting online and messaging me at BTA258@hotmail.com? Thanks. DE Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 06:38, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Sure, was about to TA tho :p. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:45, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

It will just take a few minutes. DE Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 06:47, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

Delete

grats on admin - Skakid9090 23:32, 1 June 2007 (CEST)

hehe. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:32, 1 June 2007 (CEST)
gratz... -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 01:01, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
>.> ty? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:53, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

PvXwiki:Sign your comments‎

Is there a reason you deleted half the page, or can I go ahead and revert it back now? -(єronħ) no u 00:24, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

rofl, accident. My comp lagged and I might have deleted it without noticing. This happened before w/ Frw before on Coloneh's Talk. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:40, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
Fixed now. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:42, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
That happened to me once, too... -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 13:49, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Shireen Sig

Sig Fixed Shireensysop 02:15, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

coolz. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:29, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Let up off of Safre, he needs time to cool. He has made it apparant that it's between him, Defiant, and GC. Let him cool down, and if need be, the conversation will most likely be taken off site. This is awefull public at the moment. Shireensysop 05:34, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Very well, I shall refrain unless harassed on my Talk page -_-... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:41, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Me/Mo Pacifist

Readem, your comments are very much appreciated... would you mind to look at the discussion for a little while? =) BaineTheBotter 08:17, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Sure. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 08:36, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Mass Builds Clean-up

Is there a reason that all of them are abroken links? I would love to help out in the assassin area (or at least start there,) -(єronħ) no u 21:20, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Rather then have to write down every single Build again, this is from my Guild wiki archive. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:27, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
I'm still a little lost, are they supposed to link to the build namespace or something? -(єronħ) no u 22:59, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
>.> ignore the links lol. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:14, 2 June 2007 (CEST)
Alright then, -(єronħ) no u 23:29, 2 June 2007 (CEST)

Sefre

You have taken a personal grudge against me. I will ask you to stop making childish comments meant to undermine and confuse the issue I am trying to bring forward. I understand that you disagree with my issue but I am asking you to act the admin you now are and try to understand it before you try to "undermine" it as you said. I consider many of your actions personal attacks, I have nothing against you and wish we can come to a mature solution here.--SefreSig 05:39, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Merely undermining you is by no means an attack. As I have said previously, you often make brash decisions and publicly disregard those who share different views from your own. I hold no grudges, not even against Solus who has made it quite clear that he is against everything I stand for. Oh, and by the way, you quite often undermine others. Actually, you are doing it at this very moment. What a surprising coincidence! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:52, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
Here is the link, in case you don't know: [1] Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:54, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
I am pretty sure that is a personal attack, at least I feel like I am being targeted and put down without justice being done to what I was being put down for.
Whenever I have "undermined" others it was never because of that poster, but because of the action. I try to follow NPA to the word, I target actions, not users. You seem to be "undermining" me in a way that isn't related to my action. The post on admins on gcardianals page where you say "He knows new admins have been appointed. He was there." was meant to undermine my post without relating to the action itself.
Please either leave the issue alone or act constructively in it. I am trying to be mature here and end this issue with you. So please, stop. --SefreSig 06:04, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
What you consider "Undermining", I consider stating the facts. What you call "attacking", I call word manipulation. Using things you have done in the past, and other comments made by you, against you, is in no way violating NPA. If you do not have an MSN, why not contact me IG? Ill be on in fifteen minutes or so, if you would like. Though this conversation is beginning to drag...not nearly as much fun as it was. And if you did not want to continue, why even respond ;)? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:13, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
I could care less what you call it. I feel that you are attacking me and my comments without understanding then. If that is not against NPA it is still extremely rude and I expect better out of a admin. I will not respond further unless you wish to attack me or whatever you call it more.--SefreSig 06:17, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
Very well ;). Glad we have come to some sort of understanding... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:55, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

I will be discussing this with all of the users involved in the bickering, but, I am going to post here first. The discussion that began on the Administrators talk page has now spilled over onto 4 pages, and it is time that we stopped bickering and started actual discussion. To that effect, I would ask that you limit the scope of your comments to the PvX:Administrator talk page because spreading it out merely leads to greater exacerbation of the issue. Similarly, please make this a civil debate. If you have a point you would like to make, please limit the scope of your comments to a discussion of the pros and cons of a particular issue rather than being sidetracked by petty bickering, particularly between yourself and Sefre, and please focus on the issue. I have very carefully reviewed all of the evidence on all 4 pages, but, I have found no evidence of NPA violations by any party. As such, no one will be banned, or even warned by me for conduct, however, I strongly urge you to stick to the issue at hand before we have greater escalation. And, if at all possible, I would ask people to refrain from posting in any forum for at least a few days in order to prevent escalation. It you feel that you must post, please limit it to the discussion at hand and try to distance yourself from Sefre. Thank you. DE Sig Test 2 *Defiant Elements* +talk 23:50, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

She/he started it *Points at Safre* jk :P. I really could care less. Just fun to debate about :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:58, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Just one more thing here, are you really saying that the only reason you were trying to screw up my questioning on the admin situation was for fun...? And if so may I ask why you targeted me then...?--SefreSig 20:11, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
That, and the fact what you were arguing was both ridiculous and against my beliefs...other then that I have nothing against you. You would know if I did ;) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:46, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
And they made this guy a admin *shakes head*.
I assumed it was against what you wanted, I was arguing against the method that you became a admin, thats pretty obvious.--SefreSig 22:06, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
QQ Sefre. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:07, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

You've been asked to stop bickering. So stop. - Skakid9090 22:08, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

I did...she/he's the one that keeps dragging it from the grave... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:14, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Actually now I am questioning your adminship(is that a word?). based on events from past comments and actions. I am beginning to doubt that a admin who chooses to harass someone for fun is a good one. You have stated that yourself in above comments.--SefreSig 22:17, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
You two have BOTH been asked to stop. I was about to say that maybe I've not seen everything, but it looks like Readem's right, Sefre's been pulling this up again and again, and when I went to edit Sefre had already left his comment, which confirmed my thinking. Readem, I wasn't there when you were appointed a sysop, I don't know what qualifications they said you had, but I recommend you just don't respond to Sefre on this, at all. Sefre, you're crossing into NPA territory. Please, both of you, stop. I'm honestly starting to get bored of banning people, and I don't want to be the one to demote Readem if it comes to that. (I don't think it will come to either of those cases; I'm just stating the extremes.) Best situation would be if both of you (and everyone else on the wiki!) just left this section alone. I've "locked" it in those hopes. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 22:25, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Argh, I don't know what I did wrong, but that locked the whole page. Just drop it, everyone. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 22:27, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Ty for interjecting. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:33, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
>.>...I contribute a great deal to this wiki. More then many of the Users combined. If you would please READ I NEVER once said I did it just to harass you. You are not even worth my time or trouble to "Harass". You, in my views, are nothing but a minor annoyance, bringing up issues in the past and never letting go. Disrupting constantly, and just bothering others. You violate what admins have repeatedly asked you to, you harass me repeatedly on my Talk Page. So all I ask of you Sefre, is to stop harassing me, and start contributing in a more positive manner before this escalates to a degree it shouldn't. A word of advice Sefre, think silent thoughts, it isn't hard to do. I wish you my best regards, and am NEVER responding to any more comments by you, on this page.

Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:40, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Very well, good luck on your attempt to save your own behind, proof is in the history so I don't mind. Good day.--SefreSig 22:43, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Premades

Don't forget to take care of all the redirects from these builds you're moving. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 07:46, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

ok, done. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:57, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Do I need to fix my page links again? Shireensysop 08:00, 3 June 2007 (CEST) Links Fixed. Names work fine. =) Shireensysop 08:08, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Just cleaning up

Funny how you can make people read old build articles just by popping them up in the recent changes. A little disclaimer: I've nothing to do with the builds I just edited, I'm only cleaning up category tags and such stuff. So don't blame me if these builds suck ;-) --Hhhippo 14:17, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Np, I have been up for 18 hours now, so it really doesn't bother me. Besides, was just checking for vandalism. Cuz you are always destroying stuff and w/e ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 14:21, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
Yea yea. I guess we could use a few more vandals of that type... --Hhhippo 14:35, 3 June 2007 (CEST)
"Skuld! get over here! We need some vandalism and some swash-buckling arguement!" (jk lolz) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 14:39, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Sleep

Been up 20 hours. Time to sleep for 4. Night guys. Wait it's morning... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 15:46, 3 June 2007 (CEST)

Hmmm...

Care to give some details about your upcoming IW guide? |SpriteSODA

Sure, it will merely cover the basics of an IW Mesmer. Similar to that of the Barrage Guide. It will feature all current Tested IW as well. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 09:32, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Block

User:69.222.55.224 keeps vandalizing the A/e farmer, block himm plz. - Skakid9090 23:58, 5 June 2007 (CEST)

Done. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:36, 6 June 2007 (CEST)

Can't We All Get Along

I wrote something, and I hope you will read. CWAGA is a project started by me, and maintained by me today. Please share. Bluemilkman 19:16, 6 June 2007 (CEST)


Well done with the healing spike. I got you to think outside the box didn't I? Shireensysop 01:21, 8 June 2007 (CEST)

 :/ I already had an Idea about how it was done. I was testing something about Life Bond as well. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:23, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
Do me a favor and crop that photo just for the number amounts. The whole exercise is for the new guys to see the page try and figure out how it was done. Start making them think about skill interactions. Hence the OSB=UF tag right next to it. Get em thinking outside the box. =) Shireensysop 01:50, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
Only 4 enchantments? Noob... use some varient of this, with Mo/Rt. For the skills that are still optional, just toss monk enchantments on there. Should get ~ 15,000 health fairly easily. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 06:18, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
I had only heros. 3 to be exact. I had 16 enchants on me I think. I am sure I could get + 8-10k if I had more monks w/ me. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:37, 8 June 2007 (CEST)
Fixed link. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 11:31, 8 June 2007 (CEST)

Delete?

- I thought we were holding off on build deltions untill the vetting system was up and running? Shireensysop 01:58, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Not for the absolute worst of Builds. Besides, one was a template. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:04, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Difference between deleting via the lack of vetting policy and deleting via PvX:WELL, I assume. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 04:42, 7 June 2007 (CEST)

Soviet spy

I ain't one anymoar? —SigmA 21:06, 10 June 2007 (CEST)

High five!

proper behavior FTW! - Skakid9090 23:25, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

RUNNNNNN

He's an admin! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo I thought Skuld was enough! Even though I kinda liked Skuld XD. But still, he's bound to turn into a dictator! - Definatley Not Cheese

Wow, this must be definitely NOT Cheese. Cheese would never make a title such as RUNNNNNN. ‽-(єronħ) no u 20:30, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
Yeah, now you're definitely gonna get banned for sockpuppetry, Cheese :P -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 16:08, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Check and Review

Are you saying they have been checked, or need to be checked. Because some of those need to be reworked, or are definately sub standard compared to other builds. Shireensysop 16:20, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

They work. Not that they don't need to be rewritten because of usage and whatnot. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:21, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Translation: This build does not currently violate PW:WELL. --Rollerzerris <!--Zerris--> 12:14, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

User:Krowman/Improvement

Would you take a look at this when you get the chance? It's a good place for users to receive direction for edits that they may want to make, and it has the admin task list that I think you'll like. I want to move this into the mainspace and link to it from the Main Page once it has been reviewed by a few more people. Thanks. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 14:36, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Very well. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 14:48, 16 June 2007 (EDT)


not a CHANCE

you cannot tank aataxes with just AoE and stoneflesh. - Skakid9090 16:39, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Armor nerf only affects stacking. Still has +80 armor. And yes it can. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:41, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

and...? it's stacking AoE and kinetic. - Skakid9090 16:41, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

I removed AoE. It doesn't absolutely need it. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:42, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

Super prO Builds

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Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 19:30, 16 June 2007 (EDT)

My admin nomination

It was stated that we have a list if we suddenly need admins... just letting you know, I won't be promoted until there is a need, even if everyone on the site says yes. Just letting ya know, no need to change it~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 14:34, 17 June 2007 (EDT)

help

Please check it out Help needed. Thx :) The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gcardinal (talk • contribs) .

- Mucho Appriciato for the links bro. Im going to bed. See you later. Shireensysop 17:37, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Viability Checks

is it just you doing this? - Skakid9090 15:59, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Pretty much :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:06, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

ok, i thought it was some super-secret admin conspiracy ;) - Skakid9090 16:09, 21 June 2007 (EDT)

Uploads

Are borked :( ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:36, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Heh? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:38, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Well I cant see the pics u just uploaded anyways. It's sad. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:40, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Meh, they work. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:43, 22 June 2007 (EDT)

Warrior Builds (PvP)

W/A Death's Charge Hammer Spiker

Backbreaker Crushing Blow Irresistible Blow Frenzy Rush Death&#039;s Charge Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/A Forceful Burden

Forceful Blow Heavy Blow Crushing Blow Protector&#039;s Strike Shadowy Burden Burst of Aggression Signet of Malice Resurrection Signet

W/A Lone Ganksman

Dismember Critical Chop Executioner&#039;s Strike &quot;You&#039;re All Alone!&quot; Signet of Malice Frenzy Shadow Walk Resurrection Signet

W/A Shove Hammer Spiker

Shove Crushing Blow Thrill of Victory Wild Blow Tiger Stance Death&#039;s Charge Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/A Steady Axe Warrior

Steady Stance Drunken Blow Desperation Blow Critical Chop Signet of Malice &quot;Fear Me!&quot; Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/E Agressive Hammer

Backbreaker Crushing Blow Mighty Blow Grasping Earth Flail Enraging Charge Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/E Charge Sword

Sever Artery Gash Final Thrust Frenzy Shock &quot;Charge!&quot; Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/E Linebacker

Counter Blow Bull&#039;s Strike Crushing Blow Devastating Hammer Hammer Bash Shock Rush Resurrection Signet

W/E Shock Axe

Eviscerate Executioner&#039;s Strike Shock Bull&#039;s Strike Frenzy Rush Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/Mo "You're All Alone!" Paladin

&quot;You&#039;re All Alone!&quot; Sever Artery Gash Final Thrust Flail Enraging Charge Mending Touch Healing Signet

W/Mo Magehunter Strike Spiker

Sever Artery Gash Magehunter Strike Final Thrust Frenzy Enraging Charge Mending Touch Resurrection Signet

W/N Bull's Charge Sword

Sever Artery Gash Final Thrust Frenzy Bull&#039;s Charge Plague Touch Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/Rt Unnatural Fury

Weapon of Fury Penetrating Chop Dismember Axe Rake &quot;Watch Yourself!&quot; Healing Signet Optional Generic resurrect

W/any Charging Anti-kite

Sever Artery Gash Final Thrust Charging Strike Bull&#039;s Strike Frenzy Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/any Charging Executioner

Dismember Executioner&#039;s Strike Axe Rake Critical Chop Charging Strike Healing Signet Frenzy Mending Touch

W/any Crippling Slash Sword

Crippling Slash Gash Final Thrust Frenzy Sprint Healing Signet Optional Resurrection Signet

W/any Dragon Sword

Sever Artery Gash Sun and Moon Slash Dragon Slash Frenzy Rush Protector&#039;s Strike Resurrection Signet

W/any Fierce Hammer

Devastating Hammer Crushing Blow Fierce Blow Bull&#039;s Strike Frenzy Rush Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

W/any Flailing Coward

Steelfang Slash Standing Slash Soldier&#039;s Strike Flail &quot;Coward!&quot; Enraging Charge &quot;For Great Justice!&quot; Resurrection Signet

W/any Lonely Basher

&quot;You&#039;re All Alone!&quot; Tiger Stance Fierce Blow Heavy Blow Crushing Blow Healing Signet Enraging Charge Resurrection Signet

W/any Rage of the Mokele

Mokele Smash Devastating Hammer Crushing Blow Fierce Blow Enraging Charge Tiger Stance Optional Resurrection Signet

W/any Steady Stance Warrior

Steady Stance Drunken Blow Desperation Blow Soldier&#039;s Strike &quot;Watch Yourself!&quot; &quot;Fear Me!&quot; Healing Signet Resurrection Signet

Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:32, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

Oh, and we need to fix the shout images. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:35, 26 May 2007 (CEST)

LOL, was that really necessary. Zuranthium 16:55, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Forceful Burden and Lone Ganksman are dupes... -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 18:48, 5 June 2007 (CEST)
Fixed it just for you ;) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 22:10, 9 June 2007 (CEST)
Moved your compilation of warrior builds here. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 17:27, 23 June 2007 (EDT)
Ty? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 11:28, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Mesmer Builds

Just thought I'd let you know that your Mesmer builds that are under your userspace are showing up in the builds categories. Would you mind removing the tags from them? I don't want to touch them myself.

And also, consider archiving this talk page ;) -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 07:48, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Not quite understanding...? What category? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:51, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Noob User Box?

Hey, your Noob User Box is a little inapropriate for a Syop don't ya think? Whom do you think comes to PvX looking for builds? Not the uber advanced guys, but the people looking for help reaching that next level, or get started... I really need to write up a letter to the admins on 'quality customer service', cuz I think were all lacking in that area. Shireensysop 08:13, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Um no. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 08:29, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

(shamelessly stolen from Honorable Sarah)

Newbie Noob/nub/etc
Warrior-icon-small Has never been taught Assassin-icon-small Refuses to learn
Monk-icon-small Listens to the opinions of the more experienced, and decides on their own Necromancer-icon-small Ignores the more experienced, or follows blindly the advice of others.
Elementalist-icon-small Avoids those who exclude others Mesmer-icon-small Excludes others
Ranger-icon-small Is willing to help Ritualist-icon-small Is willing to bill you for it
Paragon-icon-small Temporary Dervish-icon-small Terminal

I see your difference in definitions. Shireensysop 08:38, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Some random reason (most likely because I pwn)

Thanks for not pwning =) - Skakid9090º_o 12:45, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

K. Will try moar. bb! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 12:46, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

abandoned stubs

theres... so.... MANY! - Skakid9090º_o 15:55, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

I'll delete all that you tag. I wouldn't bother yourself too much. Once the vetting system is in place, it will be a matter of minutes before I delete them all. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 15:57, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
how'd you delete the same thing twice 0.o - Skakid9090º_o 16:01, 27 June 2007 (EDT)
Look at the section above pls. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:04, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Archive Time???

WARNING: This page is 60 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. --Midnight08 16:07, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

User Self Rate

This is simple, do we allow user's to rate their own builds now that they can rate different levels or do we still not trust them enough? ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:47, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

What is this "Trust" you speak of o.O? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:49, 30 June 2007 (CEST)

Start rating builds =) - Skakid9090º_o 09:21, 30 June 2007 (CEST)


Thanks for the heads up bro. As for the Virluent Pressure build, there is a spike in there, and that comes from the Toxic shock signant. As for the weakness, think about GVG, Crippling Dagger is great against one target that you can get close to. The weakness, on the other hand, in a GVG match can be quickly spread about to help keep other monks busy cleaning conditions as they arn't sure whether it's blind or something else. The top necro is there for GVG and HA team pressure builds, the lower variant, which you favor, is definately much stronger in TA and RA. If you really feel the 'pressure' build needs to converted to the spiking TA/RA solo kill variant, then after I get at least 2 other people to chime in with that consensus, Ill flip the top and the bottom and varriant skill selection on the daggers. Enfeeble is just a much easier way to get virluence to activate. Shireensysop 10:28, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Hehe, np. Augury is just overpowered dude, in every respect imaginable. It should be in a lot of Builds actually....merely suggesting tho. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:32, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Then why not leave Augury to be loaded on the actual assasin that the team can load up into a slot? Shireensysop 10:34, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, one reason is because assassins have unusually long attack chains in comparison to other melee classes already. Once they have the necessary utilities (IAS, Expose Defenses, ect) there is just no room for Augury. Besides, Assassins already usually have some source of Deep Wound, while in caster Builds Deep Wound is rather rare, making Augury an extraordinarily useful skill. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:37, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

I noted that Deadly Paradox could be replaced with Augury on the Top Necro Build. Augury is on the standard bar of the bottom. You loose the fast recharge of the daggers and signant, but I don't think it really huts the pressure of the build much. Shireensysop 10:44, 1 July 2007 (CEST)

Mallyx

gate trick still works, used it last night. - Skakid9090º_o 01:07, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

Heh, you'd think they would fix that :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:41, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
they fixed it once but then broke it by fixing something else (confusing, i know =P) - Skakid9090º_o 01:44, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

My Sandcastle

Mgrinshpon Sandcastle --Mgrinshpon (C/T) 01:50, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

Vandalism

I want to apologize for my unacceptable actions by vandalizing a user page. I hope to make the Wiki even better. Metal enchantment 04:07, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

As long as I see that you are making an attempt :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:12, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

Cleanup Tags

It's not getting out of hand. I am ensuring that builds are propperly formatted. Difiant knows I am working on this, and once we get people conditioned to actually upholding the quality standards that we have set down it wont be so bad. Its the same standard, I just lowered the tolorance level. If someone has a concern they can come to me for help, check my page, and youll see I'm doing that. Everyone whom asks me for help, I am helping. I'll worry about quality of formatting, you can worry about quality of builds. Shireensysop 23:35, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

You have had at least 3 people contact you about their builds in the past 1:43 minutes...it is getting out of hand. Lower your expectations, or fix the builds yourself. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:44, 2 July 2007 (CEST)
You know on Sunday I placed close to 150 build stubs right? I did a quality control sweep. Our Wiki was that badly riddled with poor formatting and incomplete builds. Why was I able to do that, because We as Admins let it slip. I am just starting the long process of making Build Formating Quality a priority once again (or for the first time) as well as the mechanical quality of that build. Shireensysop 23:49, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

I expect things to get worse and my workload to tripple before this project is done. Shireensysop 23:49, 2 July 2007 (CEST)

This is an impossible task Shireen. Unless you plan on placing a infinite number of clean-up tags, they will never stop coming. If a Build is a Stub, do NOT place a Clean-up tag. Do NOT place a tag, on candidates for deletion, or unfavored Builds.I would rather you place the tags, on Builds that are already favored, or that are in the process of becoming. Our quality must be in the Tested Builds section ONLY. I am not just protecting new users from fixing Builds that are bound to be unfavored; I am saving you from the endless hassle you are making for yourself. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:00, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

A cleanup tag is justifaction to be sent back to stubs. If it needs a cleanup, the build was not finished. And you only say it's impossible because no one has TRIED to actually uphold our quality standards on a full scale. Look at our Trial and Testing sections, every build currently in there is up to standard, can be viewed and easily read. No one is holding poor formatting against those builds and people are focusing on how well they WORK, not how they look. Every build-stub I placed pushed unfinished builds out of those areas and into stubs with a cleanup tag on it. "I am not just protecting new users from fixing Builds that are bound to be unfavored; I am saving you from the endless hassle you are making for yourself." - Yes, it will be a total and horrible hassle if I am the only person doing this. And if you want to sit on your laurels and work on build quality, then help me out and pick out the PvX:Well builds and start marking them. Because I KNOW there are a lot of em in there. But I don't see many tags out of you. Your are helping improve builds, but only those you deem worthy. Your an elitist, and I respect that. You and I are going to butt heads on a regular basis, and for that I don't mind. Just realize that there is more than just the Uber out there. Were here to promote the game and improvement of people with that game, not just the uber build right? Shireensysop 00:08, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh, there is one misunderstanding I don't think your getting. Those 150 Cleanup tags I placed, I also moved those builds INTO stubs. I did not go crawling around stubs to place tags there. It was justification for the move. Shireensysop 00:12, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I don't touch stubs. I will delete them, say they work atrociously, or have no synergy; sure. But I will not go in and find Builds that may never come into existance. More MoR Warriors are in stubs then I can imagine. Moving mass amounts of Builds into stubs, is guarenteeing that a great percentage will never see daylight. New users, and anon users espcially, will give up once they see that tag. You cannot expect, that new users will be able to fix their own Builds. The few determined, will try very hard, and then; the Build becomes unfavored. Some will become openly disruptive; others will lose faith, and will leave the wiki entirely. I don't know about you Shireen, but I would like a more positive atmosphere about the wiki; that is open to new users and accepts their failures, rather then stick a giant finger in their faces. think of this simple analogy: You are currently raising the pedestal. They will adjust their builds, to fit the pedestal's standards. The Builds they post (Most) will become unfavored and fall from grace. The higher up they were however, the harder they shall fall. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:39, 3 July 2007 (CEST)


So what do you want to do then? Just ignore the poorly formatted builds? Ignore the procedures of build evolution? Let users post whatever they want wherever they want? Stubs is for incomplete builds. Part of any build submission to Trial or Untested is that they have a complete skill bar AND are correctly formatted and filled out. You have to have both. And you agreed, when you became a syop, to help uphold the rules. If it's incorrectly formated, work with the author and get it out of stubs. You say that the authors react negatively, and I just want to say your own behavior contributes to that more than mine does. You've said it before yourself, you just want to tell an author their build sucks and move on, only giving those that are of high quality your precious time. THAT contributes to people being pissed off more than working with them hand in hand to improve their build quality. Everyone whom has asked me what was wrong with their build I've assisted, and those individuals are starting to see it. They have accomplished something rather than failed. They have also seen that were more willing to work with them and ARE reasonable and fair if they work with the system. And I am not adjusting the standards at all... For the first time I am enforcing the standard across the board according to our own guides and rules. Shireensysop 01:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

See these two links? Tag them. Ignore the rest, as they have not been submitted to the public eye, and are not yet ready for testing. I have fixed numerous Builds Shireen...given my honest opinion on builds that are "In-testing" and advice for builds that are "in-development". I do Not randomly select Builds and trash them, no matter how bad they are. Sure, I'll say it doesn't work, but trash builds I will not. You are abusing the clean-up tag Shireen. There is a difference, between a poorly written build, and an illegible build. If we are unable to understand the basic underlying principles, it needs to be cleaned up. If it is just rather breif, and not too specific, just say so on the talk page. The people you have helped, have yet to feel the pangs of failure. We have few unfavored Builds atm. Their is a reason, Shireen, that no one takes the intiative to do what you are doing...and that reason is that it is impractical, impossible, and in the end will ultimately FAIL. [16] [17] 01:40, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Ok, I'm coming in on this. Readem, shut the heck up. I'm sorry, but you need to listen to Shireen. I've seen a lot of the cleanup tags. They should be there. Sure, a lot of the builds will fail, but a few will succeed where they might have failed otherwise. If someone fails, they should, and most likely will, try again. This time, they can make it right the first time, and maybe get that one vetted. You are looking at the wiki as a bunch of experienced players. Not all people who come here are. I'm seeing a lot of the current admins as being what Shireen named "elitists", even at the vetting procedure talk. This wiki is for everyone, not just the ones that have played 4000 hours in the past 12 months. So I've put in my 2 cents. Bluemilkman 06:14, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Dude, really. This is not relating you whatsoever. Refrain for interjecting. I have seen many of those tags, some need it, others do not. Shireen does not know what he is getting into. I am trying to prevent this, before further hassle occurs. Few will help him, as it is a tedious never-ending task. Oh, and for the record about being an elitist, stfu. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:40, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Yea, that's the way an admin should talk. This does relate to me, and the rest of the wiki. I am free to interject where I see fit. I saw fit, so I did. I think he does know what he is getting into. He's getting into helping the builds become better quality-wise. He saw something that needed to be fixed, so he started to work on fixing it. Maybe you should spend less time hassling him about what he's doing to help, and start finding new ways you can help. Isn't that what an admin does? Bluemilkman 06:47, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

You were openly rude. As an Admin, and as a User, you have no right to act in the way you did. I merely retorted. This does not relate to you, not at all; if it comes down to be harshly blunt, that is what I do best. You are but a User, this does not involve you or any other User besides Shireen, and myself. If you think that I have restraints as an Admin, you are dead wrong. I am one of the rashest users, rashest Human beings, that you will ever meet. I will not tolerate, being pushed around by anyone, especially you. Now I politely asked you to refrain from interjecting, and I would appreciate it if you would. Do not try me. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:58, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Sounds like its time for some intervention. Readem, honestly, if Shireen wants to go through all this work, let him. Shireen, I agree with the unsigned comment, in that we can prioritize the testing builds for clean-up. In practice, the most horribly written builds are posted by anons, or users who come to the wiki to post only that one build, and they usually get abandoned. Just leave it to be deleted in its uncleanly state, rather than let it get deleted in pristine condition. We don't want to waste anyone's time cleaning up a build, only to have it deleted later. Bluemilkman, it's a sad fact of the game that elitists exist. Just meet Auron in-game and ask him to rank-flash you; that's the whole point of titles, to distinguish and differentiate players. (P.S. I'm gleefully enjoying this conversation. It's like watching a sitcom where the adorable slob and the uptight go-getter are paired as roommates together. Srsly, though, solutions exist, so let's work at them.) - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 06:53, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I really don't care what Shireen does, it's his problem. I am just trying to prevent endless hours of work for everyone. Until they enter the Tested Section, or if the underlying principle of a build cannot be determined, then leave it be. Don't go "Willy-Nilly" with the Clean-up tag. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

lolololololol willy nilly - Skakid9090 07:03, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I don't care what titles he has. This is not the game. This is a site to help those who don't have all those titles, as well as those that do. I also don't appreciate being told to shut the fuck up. Just because you're an admin doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. Show respect, and you will get it in return. Don't show respect, and you probably won't get it. I am different and won't go there, that's not me. But the newer players need guidance to make their builds better. We don't need admins saying their build isn't worth making better. That will just push them away. But since I don't have all those titles, maybe you shouldn't listen to me. I'm not "good" enough. Bluemilkman 07:05, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

No one has said you are not "good enough." Gaming elites exist; that's a fact that needs to be dealt with. You can consider some of the in-game titles as accreditations. They are evidence of a player's skill, knowledge or time spent in the game. Throwing around 'elitist' comments like you have only serves to bait users. I don't feel any pity for you; Readem could have thrown an insult right back at you for all I care. Though he could have handled it more politely, you provoked him, and instead of insulting you in return, you essentially closed discussion on that topic. That is a good thing, as it will keep the clean-up tag discussion on topic. No one here has said that new players don't deserve guidance; every user in this conversation has at some point contributed to developing a build. The point being discussed here is the use of the clean-up tag. Shireen wants to follow proper procedure; Readem wants to spend time more usefully. That is what the debate is about; keep it on topic. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 07:16, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Never once have I said I was an "Elitist". It has negative connotations that I do not believe I deserve. I am fair to all users, give advice whenever possible, and usually I make their builds MUCH better. I do more then add worthless "clean-up" tags. I take it a step further. Now Bluemilkman, don't you think you are being a bit hypocritical here? You clearly told me to "Sthu", did you not? May I not do such as well? If I feel attacked, as I am feeling, may I not defend myself? Do I have less rights as an Administrator, then you do as a user? Just something to think about. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:14, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Blue, Buddy, chill out, or I'll give you a little madatory time out time to cool down. You provoked Raedman and jump dead center into a conversation between Syops and Administration Philosophy between those two individuals. I did not need a public defender as no exchange between Raedem and I had reached any true level of personal involvement. For now, lets adjourn this. Rad, sorry for bringing this down on your user page and will finish this discussion later. Shireensysop 07:11, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh, don't worry, I will give myself some time out. I'm sick of people thinking they're better than everyone else. No, this is not all because of this, because I see it a lot. I shouldn't have called him an "elitist", but that doesn't call for anything like how he talked to me. So right now, you can thank yourself for losing a major contributer for a while. Congrats admins. Bluemilkman 07:16, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

... Peace and harmony, people. Peace and harmony.-- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:12, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

I thought about this for the past couple days, and have come to the conclusion that when I see someone heckling someone else for doing something they believe helps, I don't take to it very well. I have no beef with you, and I should not have made it personal, as it wasn't before I came in. I want what is best for this site, and I get pretty passionate about it sometimes. So what I'm trying to say, is that I'm sorry I was a butthead, and I'll try and not go there again. Take it as you will. Bluemilkman 08:56, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

Solo SS necro

hey there, i saw you changed spirit bond to reckless haste after i changed the solo build. i just wanted to say that reckless is totally counter synergistic with insidious parasite, and reckless haste is generally not needed as most of the farming done in this day and age with a 55 nec is done in hard mode, and that makes reckless haste's increased atk speed useless. as for its 52% miss chance, your survivability is just fine with spirit bond. i'm going to go ahead and change it back if you don't mind, because the spirit bnd variation is incredibly effective at keeping you alive as well as still doing plenty of damage, and it's easy for first time wiki copiers to pick up and go. any reason i shouldn't? 76.24.233.12 04:04, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Go ahead, RH was just mendtioned on the Talk Page :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:17, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

Vote

Bringing to your attention some retarded vote of this build. Please ask the voter to change his vote from 5/5/5(100%) to something else, and if he can't be serious, simply remove it... Thanks in advance. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 15:05, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

And plox archive your talk page. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 17:00, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
WARNING: This page is 84 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. -- Nova Jirouji-Nova -- (contribs) 17:01, 3 July 2007 (CEST)
Zomg, it's Golem Festival :O. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:02, 3 July 2007 (CEST)

while you're at it delete the vote at Build:R/Me Fissure Forest Farmer. the guy unfavored it cause he cant use it right =P - Skakid9090 20:13, 3 July 2007 (CEST) Would you also delete the last vote on Build:R/P Pressure Spear? The guy voted out of hate.Ansom 14:50, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

Build:Team - Deathly Spike question

What does the "introduction to NF" have to do with removing a 5-5-5 rating? Mgelo21 02:18, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

It mainly has to do with the statement "It's so cool it will work." Which implies that the concept is cool, but the author has niether tried it, nor has had experience working with such a build. Coolness is not a strong cofidance adjective when describing a builds ability. Thats the main reason the 5 5 5 was removed.Shireensysop 10:26, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

It's introduction of NF. I'm guessing he means the skill could be better because of the introduction of NF, so a perfect score shouldn't be there. Just a guess though. Bluemilkman 09:02, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

Guys...it if Golem Festival...it sux. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 12:55, 4 July 2007 (CEST)
But golem festival is fun! - Skakid9090 13:14, 4 July 2007 (CEST)

W/Mo Gladiator vote

Chop chop (remove my vote). Leave a funny reason too. — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 06:09, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

Funny...I don't understand Rapta? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:32, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

2:30

wut is this sleep, that I need? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 10:33, 6 July 2007 (CEST)

stop being nub >.> - Skakid9090 04:03, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Wut, r u sure that is me? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:03, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

you took it toooo far dude - Skakid9090 04:17, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Took wat? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:25, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Well, ttyl guys. Off to RL now :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:13, 7 July 2007 (CEST)

Do you not see what I am trying to do?

Im trying to give you and every other wiki administrator a justification, a documented case, inorder to delete wammo builds on site, with needing little more than a brief explination and a link on the user page. Also, we now have a category to post "Please check here to ensure your build is not one of these before submitting." Im trying to save us work and cover our ass, and increase the buffer zone between what may be precieved as a personal attack against a new user. Trying to help stop the whole, "Lets get but hurt" kind of thing. Will you just show me a little trust. Im not being an idiot, the system will work. Shireensysop 05:26, 8 August 2007 (CEST)

That is the thing Shireen, we do not need justification. It is a waste of time. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:26, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Umm

Can you check out my build Spike Remedy Masterseru 03:23, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Sure. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:26, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

MSN

I know you and I don't sometimes get along, but I was wondering if I could sit in on your conversation when you're having it. No, I'm not going to say anything, I just wanted to see it. If you don't want me to, that's fine. Maybe you could give me a copy of it or something. If not, tehn I guess this was a fruitless request. Bluemilkman 05:13, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Sure. I don't care. As long as the others do not protest :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:51, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

i protest! muwhaha - Skakid9090 05:52, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

But unfortunately for u, u r teh roxxors. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:53, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Featured PvE Build

I was wondering that since Build:Any/D Generic Forge Runner has been vetted, if you can put my build Build:E/Mo Hard Mode Kirin Farmer as the featured PvE build? I don't know if I'm wrong here, but I can't put it there myself as the featured builds are shown on the main page >.< --Teh Uber Pwnzer 11:51, 9 July 2007 (CEST)


Shadow Sanctuary (Luxon)

[[Image:Shadow_Sanctuary_(Luxon).jpg]]. Ta-da. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 17:03, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

PvXwiki:Real Vetting

[18]: What's wrong with contacting the user? Shouldn't that be the first step, to ask him to explain the vote and see if it was just some misunderstanding? You can still complain on him if asking doesn't help. – HHHIPPOsysop› 23:03, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

We have many cases. They contact the user, and violate NPA. Has already happened more then it should have. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:15, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh, that's bad. They should ask the user, not insult him. Hmm, hard to say how to solve that. We can't really say it's forbidden to use each other's talk pages, but NPA violations should be pursued. – HHHIPPOsysop› 23:27, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

Yeah. I suggest this:

  • We do not allow the discussion of votes on user talk pages (Exceptions would be Administrators)
  • Suggest the use of the Build Talk Page instead, to vent

Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:31, 9 July 2007 (CEST)

What if the voter doesn't respond because he's not checking the build talk page? Voting doesn't put the page on the watchlist. Shouldn't we rather enforce NPA, wherever needed? – HHHIPPOsysop› 23:59, 9 July 2007 (CEST)
If the bad vote is brought to the attention of an administrator, then in most cases it won't be even brought to the user. This method is a more subtle way of handling NPA's. Worse case scenario, an admin will bring the vote to the user, and ask specifically why the voter voted as he did. No Bias, no NPA. Case closed. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:03, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
Hmm, yea, we can try that. I'm afraid the kind of people who violate NPA will not care about such rules, but let's see. – HHHIPPOsysop› 00:07, 10 July 2007 (CEST)
Probably, but should negate some unnecessary conflict. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:22, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Reverts to the Monk builds

The variants were perfectly valid and to a certain extent I agree with them, so why remove them? ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 23:39, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

Because one, just added the word "Good". The other is not a worthy note :/. GoLE is much better then DS, in almost all scenarios :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:40, 10 July 2007 (CEST)

True... But nothing goes to say they can't be USED xP ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 00:06, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Fix to PvX:NPA

Fix the redirect please, tried to make one since one didn't exist, but it isn't working. Help would be appreciated. (Orange female istani looks better btw lol) ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 02:29, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Purge your cache. -Auron 02:31, 11 July 2007 (CEST)
kk, got it. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 03:00, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Rate to Touch Ranger

Bob fregman made a vote which is not necessarily valid. He says it doesn't deserve a 5 for innovation as it is an 'old' build, and that is scores a 0 for universality for some BS. Just read his votes, one skim over is good enough to prove it delete-worthy... Everyone hates the build but it deserves it's great status. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 03:00, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Mo/R Resilient

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=Mo%2FR

It seems that the MediaWiki search engine is not too happy about the '/' in the pagename. Try this instead. – HHHIPPOsysop› 10:31, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Invalid vote

Build:E/Mo Savannah Heat Farmer Rapta has made an invalid vote which I feel should be crossed. Sure, there are hellloads of UW farmer builds about, but scoring something low just because there are lots about isn't really fair. It's like slamming 20+ builds which use cripslash in totally different situations because there are 'too many'. As you can see, I'm no very happy with voting in it's current state... ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 19:53, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

About Awe

It's not an elite by the way. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 20:19, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

I know. it is just not very good. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:20, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

On a hammer warrior it's not bad if they are P/W. ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 20:47, 11 July 2007 (CEST)

Featured Untested

Change the featured untested plz... thanks. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 02:46, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

Build:N/E Reaper's Mark Anti-Melee Necromancer

Will fail less next time =(. Sorry. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 03:18, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

smite some votes

go smite the 2 extremely low votes in SH ele that say easily countered by running out, the description says its to be used with KD or snares. you're on do not disturb btw >.> - Skakid9090 21:21, 12 July 2007 (CEST)

Yay!

I finally finished removing ALL bad votes in the PvP section ^.^. I win! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 04:45, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

"If a vote appears unjustified (e.g. only 0-scores or no meaningful reason given), the voter should be asked for clarification. As a last resort, admins have the power to strike a vote." Did you forget this part before striking all the votes? Bob fregman 19:24, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
I forget nothing. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 19:27, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
I guess it's just disregard then, ironic actually Bob fregman 19:47, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
I strike bad votes ironically, and idiotic one's for shits and giggles. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 19:49, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
You seem to strike virtually every vote that doesn't seem to score the build the same as you. Half the time your reasons for striking them are questionable(or poorly written), and i don't think you ever consult the person who rated it. Can't you at least follow your own policies. Bob fregman 20:38, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
Yes, because I strike dumb votes. Poorly written (Oh, it is "I" not "i" the last time I checked)? Must I consult ever newb who votes poorly? Can you QQ? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:43, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
Oh, and please get to the fucking point sometime tomorrow, ty. This regards the removal of the Touch Ranger vote. [19] here, now QQ. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:48, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

builds-table

unprotect it, you're the only one who wants it protected. nubbycake - Skakid9090 21:29, 13 July 2007 (CEST)


5.is readem nub?

orly?

YARLY

  1. - Skakid9090 21:29, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Newb, anons can delete the main page :P. Just tested :P Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:30, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

duh, that means you get more chances to ban. doesn't that sound fun? - Skakid9090 21:31, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
Um no, as I am gone in 2 days :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:33, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

it takes a whole two clicks to revert. Bluemilkman 22:10, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Actually, only one to rollback :). The preceding unsigned comment was added by Readem (talk • contribs) .

History, Compare, Undo, Save... 4 to me, but I'm just a regular user. =P. ~~ User Frvwfr2 signature frvwfr2 (talk · contributions) 22:11, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Yeah, Readem isn't god. We all know I am. I pwned the arse off of 4 people, which was 1 monk 1 ranger 1 derv and 1 necro... And that was all sitting guarding the priest. I was running surprise surprise, the Me/W Illusion Slasher. I tanked, I raped, I ROCKED. It was derv down first, then the ranger, then the monk and then the necro. 4 people killed by one little mesmer. THIS! IS! NAPALM! *nerf 4 peeps* ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:50, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

I r god newb. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:06, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Template:Builds Table

Doesn't help when you delete it. Now the main page looks like crap. Good job. Bluemilkman 23:38, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Pls, stfu while I do this. Ty. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:39, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Mk, I'll take that back. You fixed it pretty fast. Bluemilkman 23:41, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

haha, I'll talk when it pleases me. But then again, all you have to do is ask nicely. Bluemilkman 23:42, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

Rlly, stop. I am trying to do this. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 23:44, 13 July 2007 (CEST)

lawl sure u r ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 01:51, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Greetings

Greeting comrade! ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 02:47, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

o, hi dar :) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Yees comrade, your spies (or rather me) have noticed something is not quite right. Taan's vote to Build:Mo/any RA Bonder is indescriptive, inconclusive and says pretty much nothing. It's not that I don't agree with his scoring... Just look for yourself comrade xP ~~ Napalm Flame ^_^ Napalm Flame Sig Image (talk)·(contributions) 03:10, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Weird stuff im so popular and famous - Skakid9090 06:30, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

A blank sheet of paper...very nice Skakid, very nice O_0... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:33, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

click on it tbh. - Skakid9090 06:34, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
That doesn't make much sense tbh :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:35, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Readem sucks tbh. - Skakid9090 06:38, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
? You save Gaile's quotes?!? You sick bastard! Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:39, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Later Guys

Tomorrow working all day, and Sunday on a plane at 6 :P. Be back when I have access to a computer (May not happen soon :/...) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 06:45, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

dont nub up that airplane plz... thx and bye =) Skakid9090 06:46, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Bye Readem. I am not sure if I will be able to survive without your wisdom. --Edru viransu 06:48, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Take care. - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 07:28, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Is this what you do at work, Readem? --Edru viransu 21:46, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
I am 17, moving, and have been up since 6 this morning :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:48, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Ah, I interpreted working as the job kind of work. --Edru viransu 21:53, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Well, speaking that I was carrying boxes for 5 hours until my hands began bleeding from all the chafing, I guess it is all a matter of opinion what a "job" truly is :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:58, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
Landed successfully :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 01:17, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
Good point. I interpreted working as the employment kind of work, then. Good to hear that you landed successfully. Does this mean that I can expect your wisdom again, now? --Edru viransu 01:37, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
wb - Skakid9090 01:30, 16 July 2007 (CEST)

lol

you're gonna have to remove the unfavored tag from all those builds =) Readem sucks - Skakid9090 21:26, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

Oh gawd, that's not your signature now, is it? - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 21:54, 14 July 2007 (CEST)
i decided to change it =P - Skakid9090 21:55, 14 July 2007 (CEST)

What readem is missing =P

Maturity, Logic, and Reason. you must grow up. ty and have a nice day. that is all. =P--Lokre 19:15, 16 July 2007 (CEST)

You are fucking kidding me? Readem;; (talk*pvxcontribs) 16:05, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
A mildly entertaining jest, at best. --Edru viransu 23:02, 16 July 2007 (CEST)
Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but I think you said exactly what he wanted you to say. At least, he probably wanted that type of reaction. Bluemilkman 16:25, 17 July 2007 (CEST)
PvX:NPA. Nuff said. —ǥȓɩηɔɧ/〛 20:06, 18 July 2007 (CEST)
O.o? He quoted exactly what I said to him... then laugh at that, and people start repremanding me? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:09, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

I'm not repremanding you for anything. Just watch the language. I'm sure he didn't say that. I still like you though. Bluemilkman 04:58, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

My build is good so i am going to complain in my title to you, but seriously, for a seeping build its pretty tight. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 06:11, 18 July 2007 (CEST)

... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:01, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Sorry, I am a spaz. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 00:05, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
You are not alone :). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:10, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Struck Vote

hey i dont see any reason why you had to remove my vote in the touch ranger build. your motivation made me lol. touch rangers are not warriors, and if i dont like to switch target 'cause I already wasted half of my energy on one, I dont see why this would make my opinion invalid. --Morten 17:00, 18 July 2007 (CEST)

Will check. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:15, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

Just revote with a slightly better reason m8. Kiting ofc is a counter, but that is one of the few that can counter a touchy; making it a very solid build in-general. It's like a war, that is immune to blind, and does AI damage :/. Pretty good imo. The Warrior comment was a reference to target switching. For example, in GvG if you see someone being pre-protted, you merely switch targets. It is also a very effective way to kill some kiting, and increase your overall match dps. should try it, tis fun. Just remem kids, Addren spikes r 4 newbs ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:23, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

oook,i see where you are coming from, but after all my vote was still high, i know the build's good at pressure. just found it odd you'd strike my vote just because i like sticking on the same target: i know the build very well, and i actually played it a lot. anyway spike>pressure. lol --Morten 14:25, 19 July 2007 (CEST)
um could i ask you to check a vote in my build Build:Rt/A_Grasping_Bomber? tycn seems to assume i rely completely on a destruction spirit, when i covered a whole section of usage to describe a spike which doesnt require a spirit. however i am not requiring you to strike it. thats completely up to you of course. i settled this with the author of the comment, so nevermind and thanks anyway. --Morten 14:41, 19 July 2007 (CEST)

scythe sins

I don't like the idea either, but it works in pve. Don't pester anyone about it, everyone knows you dislike it already. -Auron 06:38, 20 July 2007 (CEST)

...

Yeah is that really an appropriate reason to strike out my vote? Grow up Readem, Cya Pvxwiki. Much better places... Six 05:00, 21 July 2007 (CEST)

Who r u? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 18:05, 21 July 2007 (CEST)

How about you "suck less" Readem. ^^ Bai bai now. I gots to go own them HB Balanced sins with mah Mesmer. ^^ Ciao. Six 06:19, 22 July 2007 (CEST)
Your vote didn't make any sense, by the way. --Edru viransu//QQ about me 07:54, 22 July 2007 (CEST)

At this point I am just going to point out that your customer service ability has just driven one person away from the wiki. With better social interactions messages like these would never appear on your user space. This is an issue, and don't tell me that, "Well, we don't need them here anyway." Bad attitude bro. Im not pulling this out of my but just to but heads with you. Take a minute and try and see that your constant behavior is not appreciated or deemed acceptable to many, and the above will become more frequent the longer you persist in you method of handleing people. Shireensysop 07:26, 22 July 2007 (CEST)

Don't care sorry :/. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:47, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

Yo

Check it out please:Build:W/D 'Liteless AxeDark0805|Rant 19:38, 21 July 2007 (CEST)

Done gogogo. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 20:49, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
Thanks. I feel bad though i wasnt asking to cancel out bad votes. A review woulda been fine lol. But thanks. Its annoying for once the build i post doesnt feel halfassed and yet rapta comes to ruin my fun.Dark0805|Rant 21:07, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
Rapta ruins fun for all :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 21:08, 23 July 2007 (CEST)
I hear he 1v1ed fun and beat him with echo mending.Dark0805|Rant 21:41, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

ARCHIVE

PLZKTHX -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 06:02, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

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dont do it readem, dont be a conformist! - Skakid9090 06:41, 23 July 2007 (CEST)

Users

Hi, just wanted to let you know that I told sorry to Six guy who is quited b/o you. On our wiki there is place for everyone and administrators sould be a very last reason of b/c people leave. And maybe you think some people are bad in PvP (hell I never done HoH) - I am good at something else. I do understand that you have passion for the game and that you do know a lot, but you are administrator you are here to make sure that all people play nicely and dont kill each other. Comments like "What do people not understand, about "I have played this game, way the fuck more then you have."?" and "sux less" is not a style for admin. If I "worked" out my issues with Sefre so can you with almost any user. Just a reminder from me to you gcardinal 00:32, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

I don't even know what vote six is talking about man :/... Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:04, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
I've spoken with you on several occasions and I have documentation that shows you complete lack of regard for the user base here on the wiki. I've tried to bring it up to you quietly, and later forcefully with you in private. This is my public statement, "I do not wish you to be an Administator." This is a serious issue. One on one, as a person, you a great guy. But you lack leadership qualities and the maturity necessary to warrant continuation in an administrative role here on the wiki. I don't need to say anything more to you as we have allready had our discussion two weeks ago and it did not phase you. You did this to yourself. Shireensysop 00:39, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
I know your views Shireen. I have them documented on my labtop. Now please refrain from trying to change my views/opinions. Accept my differences, or don't associate with me. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:05, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
I do not try to associate with you. I AM associated with you with OUR titles as syops. I have no problems with your decisions or your contributions. It is how you handle people Raedem. Plain and simple. And as you ask, "Do not associate with me," Thats what I am trying to do. Remove the title that gives us association. Shireensysop 05:52, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

On notice

This is your... warning? Nah, just a friendly reminder to chill out and remember your responsibilities as a sysop here. Stuff like this isn't acceptable... ever. When I chatted with you on MSN about it, you shrugged it off; it isn't a laughing matter. Please take your role here more seriously, or risk losing it. -Auron 00:59, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

I know, I said it wouldn't happen again remem? Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:06, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
Actually, it is a few topics up from this one, where I apoligized ;). Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:07, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Just a Note

At the least, contact people about votes you choose to remove. That's all I think you should improve of yourself. (and to be honest, I wouldn't have contacted people about votes I removed until just recently. I wouldn't have even thought about it.) Anyways, I don't agree with any form of Demotion at this time. ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 03:49, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Block

I know I've unblocked myself before, I assume Readem can as well, so what's the point of this block? - Kowal Krowman {{sysop}} 05:46, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

symbolic imo. - Skakid9090 05:50, 24 July 2007 (CEST)
If users believe I am too harsh, then Auron and I have come to a resolusion that will please all involved. ttyl. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 07:52, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Hi

Hi m8, I am sorry to see that discussion about you went that far. I hope we can work out all the issue if there is any. Get on MSN when you can and say hi :) gcardinal 06:30, 24 July 2007 (CEST)

Hi I got a strange msg from you when you say ttyl. And I replied right away but you was instantly offline? gcardinal 03:43, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
Hmmm :/. A tad strange, speaking I was on for an hour or more :P. I'll try again later, after I finish my appointments. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 18:48, 26 July 2007 (CEST)
Still waiting for yo... gcardinal 00:37, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
At school atm, sorry :P. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 00:38, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

Check your GWiki talk page

Left a question for you on there thinking I was on PvX. I'm guessing you're more active here though, so thought I'd give you a heads up on this talk page. — Hyperion` // talk 05:17, 25 July 2007 (CEST)

Sorry mate, been on vacation. Will check. (Yay, by hitting keyboard with hammer, it is working better!) Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 02:36, 26 July 2007 (CEST)

Images

Do you happen to know the copy writes of the new Gwen Skill images? (Also, talk page too big, I start leave messages at top. 2 lazy 2 scrol) ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:12, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

guild shack. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:51, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
 ? I mean can I upload them for my own use until they get BBcoded (which will prolly be sometime after they 31st next month) ‽-(єяøηħ) no u 05:52, 27 July 2007 (CEST)
Oh, well give credit to GWW. Readem (talk*pvxcontribs) 05:54, 27 July 2007 (CEST)

Build Rating

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