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There's a Minor Edit button? lol -User:St. Michael
Nevermind, I found it XD -User:St. Michael

Build:W/Rt Splinter Fow

  • Lion's Comfort will have no effects on Dolyak if you are under the effects of the signet when you cast Lion's Comfort. Dont Worry. :) DervishPale94 14:52, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
Ok, as long as you don't have to spam Lion's Comfort. XD ــмıкεнaшк 14:53, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Build:P/W Focused PvE Paragon

WHY? Why the rating of 4.7 on the most imba build in all of GW? Like OMG. Antiarchangel Antiarchangel No U Sig NO U 20:58, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Because no build is perfect. lol I've been wtfpwnt many times when I take that build, but I usually pve with heroes and henchmen. Oh, and two of the worst possible places to take this build is Jaga Moraine in Hard Mode where there are 50-ish Mist Vaettirs, and some places in Asuran Territory where there are Quetzals. -Mike 21:09, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
If you manage to lose at anything with that bar you should uninstall--Goldenstar 21:10, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
Done. 05:59, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
Go on golden, try and think why those areas mite be hard.... Azula TALK 15:11, 21 June 2008 (EDT)

Scorpion Wire!

Someone finally understands how useful it can be! Silven 07:28, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

I use it for an SP Sin Build in AB, and it works great to make up for the recharge of Shadow Prison, and anti-kiting is gud. Honestly, after they buffed it, it was probably as good as Siphon Speed, but it offered different utility. -Mike 15:57, 21 April 2008 (EDT)


For all the help you've given with the build I submitted. ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡* 16:24, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

I hate to see a great build go to waste. Maybe I should make a PvE Rit... -Mike 22:52, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
Heh :P Should I move this to testing now? ̡͌l̡*̡̡ ̴̡ı̴̴̡ ̡̡͡|̲̲̲͡͡͡ ̲▫̲͡ ̲̲̲͡͡I͡n͡f͡i͡d͡e͡l̲̲͡͡ ̲̲͡▫̲̲͡͡ ̲|̡̡̡ ̡ ̴̡ı__̡͌l̡* 17:00, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

Team - Stormway

Dervishes with 20 dps? IM pretty sure its an 1800 Dmg Spike .:|Zeecron 21:24, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

1800 total damage / 7 people = 257.142(...) damage per person.
257.142(...) damage per person / 20sec cooldown = ~ 12.86 damage per second per person. --71.229 21:28, 21 May 2008 (EDT)
I'm not worried about the spike itself, because it can include 200 armor-ignoring damage form each Dervish (with high ranks, of course), which is great, but the build isn't very universal since you're relying on a tank, and if you don't annihilate your opponents in the first spike, things won't look too good afterwards. -Mike 21:30, 21 May 2008 (EDT)


It should be "almost", because it is under 400 damage including DW. -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 17:06, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Have you included average damage from your daggers? The SP Deadly Arts Sin uses the same chain and has no problem killing. -Mike 17:08, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
You also used "possible" and "almost" in the same sentence, so I figured I'd remove "almost". =P -Mike 17:09, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
Ah, ok. And no, I didn't include the base daggers, but at the best, it'll be an added 60 damage or so...I guess it will kill :) -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 17:21, 6 June 2008 (EDT)


It also does damage, not just drain energy. -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 19:26, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

You might not be able to trigger Mind Wrack unless all of the Mesmers cast it on the same target. and even then, Monsters have pretty high energy in PvE. -Mike 20:36, 6 June 2008 (EDT)
The point of Mind Wrack is a low energy, fast casting, fast recharging mesmer hex to trigger Cry of Pain. It's to finish of anything that (somehow) survives. -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 09:59, 9 June 2008 (EDT)


Do you use it? Because if you do, get on and connect to the PvX channel. -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 14:57, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

I had to check Wikipedia to learn what it is, so I guess I don't use it. =P -Mike 15:01, 14 June 2008 (EDT)
Darn. It is a lot easier to communicate over IRC. -- Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 15:06, 14 June 2008 (EDT)


(and convenience of attribute is not a valid excuse) It is, actually. — Skakid 16:07, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

The Scourges weren't used just because they were in Smiting, but because they really weren't that good, anyway (Backfire deals more damage, although costs more and has a longer recharge). Soul Bind is an Elite version of Scourge Healing, with 1 second cut off from the cast. It's a bad Elite compared to the old Soul Bind and other Curses Elites (or Soul Reaping's Wail of Doom). The build would likely have been vetted Great before the update, though. >.> -Mike 16:22, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
Actually, the Scourages weren't used because they were in smiting and had a long cast time. That's why we had builds like Necroway using Scourge spam, with their shitloads of leftover "whatever" attributes that can be placed into any hex (Scourge tends to be good for pressure). — Rapta Rapta Icon1 (talk|contribs) 23:07, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
I still find it to be wasteful to use an Elite that's nearly identical to a non-Elite, save for 1 second off of the Casting time. Heck, you could take a Me/Mo with Fast Casting and Scourge Healing to make up for this (while losing the runes for Smiting Prayers). -Mike 07:00, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

Your para

hawt. Godbox GodlyCompanion-cube 10:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes, I think so, too. Btw, Photoshop ftw. -ــмıкεнaшк 10:32, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Mike Hunt? — Skakid 18:25, 27 June 2008 (EDT)


talk link is in russian letters, why? :) --Super Igor *ninja!!* 18:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Because I wanted my signature to look smaller. I don't actually speak Russian; only English and French. XD ــмıкεнaшк 18:26, 27 June 2008 (EDT)
Ya was just wondering --Super Igor *ninja!!* 19:24, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Check the bottom link on my user page tbh. Don't bother watching anymore when the woman starts to sing. <_< - PANIC! Panic sig4 sexiness! 17:37, 3 July 2008 (EDT)

osht, that's awesome. XD EDIT: Ya, the singing isn't that great. lol ــмıкεнaшк 17:39, 3 July 2008 (EDT)


Well, first off, don't upload over pages. Especially "Obaby!" which was an epic and great image. Second, I almost cried in epicness. Anything with less than 10 brain tumors can kill the Master of Healing. Look for Fire Tock's Master of Healing quote here. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 10:57, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Ya, I remember that quote. I uploaded the file but realized I forgot to clean up some things on the image, so I reuploaded, and changed the name, so I didn't even notice that there already was a file under that name (although it probably should have been obvious, it's "obaby".) Anywho, sorry 'bout that. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 11:00, 24 July 2008 (EDT)

Your online atm

Check this shit out Frosty No U! 22:29, 24 July 2008 (EDT)


being a shitter and make an SSBB page :O --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:18, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

I would, but I don't take losing too well. And, I hate the delay. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 17:20, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
TBH, you don't have to play, you can just chat about the Brawls and we can send you shitty levels and pics. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:22, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
Do you need me to upload my own pics? ــмıкεнaшк 17:26, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
Well, all you need to upload is a character pic of your favorite character, which can be found on the Brawl website or just Googling "(Character) brawl". Speaking of which, do you know how to upload Brawl pics to a PC? They don't show up on my SD card. --GoD Wario Sig*Wah Wah Wah!* 17:28, 26 July 2008 (EDT)
Uploading pics from the Wii? I have no clue, tbh. My brother had set-up some recorder for the Wii so we could get live videos (for some review on Mario Strikers), but I think he wiped that program when he cleaned up the computer. We had to buy some plugs and shit for that, though. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 17:32, 26 July 2008 (EDT)

firebal instead of 1 aeo spell?

Do you think firebal would be better isnead of Teinai's Heat since i got already much damage of the aeo. And it would be good vs players. ( asked it in comments but noone aswers :Probertjan 10:49, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

Ya, it probably would help a lot. Meteor Shower+Rodgort's+Fireball should kill the Mesmer and Ele Shrines, where as your last DoTAoE would just about finish off any others. AB is unpredictable, and a couple extra spells to deal with other players would make things go by a lot better. ــмıкεнaшк 15:27, 29 July 2008 (EDT)

I herd

u liek orange&red in ur sig like mine MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 20:06, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

u herd rite. =P ــмıкεнaшк 12:32, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Your name

cracks me up. If you say it out loud, it gets kind of vulgar. I figured I might point that out to you, lol. Powersurge 00:34, 9 August 2008 (EDT)

lol... Im sure thats why he did it. --    Frvwfr2     talk    contribs    admin   00:37, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
I couldn't tell if it was intentional or not, it's so random, lol. Powersurge 00:38, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
Some day I'll change my last name to Hawk (or Hunt). lol There's also Hugh Jass. A funny gay marriage would be Mike Hawk and(/in) Hugh Jass. XDــмıкεнaшк 09:13, 9 August 2008 (EDT)
It's a funny name. Mike Oxbig works just as good though. Imbagon
That's a pretty good one, too. XD There's also Hugh Jass, but my first name is actually Michael, so it's more appropriate. =P ــмıкεнaшк 17:43, 12 August 2008 (EDT)

check out my new FIRST EVAR signature

^--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:40, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Awesome. That statement is so true, to because of all the mudkip and piplup love out there. ــмıкεнaшк 22:42, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
gives new meaning to the "i hurd you liek mudkipz" user box.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:43, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
I think that story was about some kid that was mentally challenge and dressed up as a pokemon trainer or Ash. He got a Mudkip plush doll and started sexing it up, eh? lol ــмıкεнaшк 22:50, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
so you're saying that they already ARE used as sex toys? despite not even being real? god bless the internet.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:54, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
U ppl need to let this pokemon shit go already XD – Sazzy 22:55, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
(ec)he story was completely made up, but nonetheless hilarious and it started that Internet meme. Ya, that pokemon shit is old, but still classic. XD ــмıкεнaшк 22:57, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
i've never even played--wouldn't know a mudlip from a pipkup if it walked up and bit me on the ass :S. it just seemed like the thing to do around here.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:08, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
lol@mudlip and pipkup. That's Punny. =O ــмıкεнaшк 23:10, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
I just don't get the hype tbh. I've hated it from the start. – Sazzy 06:21, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Heh, I was into Pokemon cards until I was like 9, but I never really played the games. My older brother, however, was really big into the gameboy games, and he named his Nidoqueen "Pinny" and his Nidoking, "Horny". lol That was before he knew what it meant, though. =P ــмıкεнaшк 10:39, 12 August 2008 (EDT)
Psh noobs, you have it all wrong... this kid had a mudkip *plush* lol and a mentally retarded kid took it from him and started sexing it up as in, dry humping it and caused a scene lolwutnaobich? ๔คгк Stop1 ςђค๏ร | 20:50, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Do not, touch my builds

If you personally think that you have a better variant of my build, then list in my talk page, but do NOT modify my featured builds as I find it extremely rude. Amber 22:38, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

I'm sorry, but this is a wiki, and anyone can edit a build, whether they submitted it or not. Also, no one actually owns the builds here, because it is a wiki, after all. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it. Also, you may want to check PvXwiki:Article_Ownership. By moving your build back to Trial and removing the Glyph at least, you may get a second chance at the build, otherwise, the votes don't look so good. ــмıкεнaшк 22:41, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
I didn't expect ownership of the build, but I did expect other people to realize that it might be considered rude to do what you did. I am not going to change my build in any way, I do not fear the failure of it, and if it comes to that then so be it. If the people of PvXWiki do not think my build has potential then let them rate it badly, I am not looking for acceptance or any type of reward, I only wanted to share something that I personally found successful. I appreciate you trying to be a friend, but please do not worry. Amber 22:45, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
"I did expect other people to realize that it might be considered rude to do what you did." not on a wiki. everybody makes suggestions, snarks off, and changes things. you're welcome to be here and snark off, change things, and make suggestions with the rest of us--that's the beauty of a wiki. but you gotta QQ less when other people do it to you.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:48, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
I just expected people to have a sense of control and self-restraint. If that is not the case than I am sorry. Amber 22:52, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
how has that expectation been violated? posting a build here is asking the entire internet what they think of it, and giving them permission to screw with it. that's not me ranting, that's policy. but the funny thing about asking people what they think of something on the internet is that they'll tell you.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:57, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
if you can handle that, welcome to the community. if not ... QQ--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 22:58, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Lol... I srsly feel bad for Amber for some reason (no sarcasm!) Anyway, most of the time people will suggest the things on the talk page, but it's allowed to make changes etc and we've all come used to that so yeh :3 Though I might understand that might not seem so logical to you as it does to us. – Sazzy 23:01, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
I feel bad for everyone who gets their first build shot down in flames. i remember what it feels like. but some builds really do need shot down. gotta strike a balance, somehow, though we tend towards snark.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:05, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

Everyone goes through the same thing with the PvXwiki, and I was a real bitch about it. lol ــмıкεнaшк 23:10, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

it was AotL bloodspike for me. what was it for you?--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:13, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
and what do you think of this? shmexy, huh?  :P--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:13, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
My first two builds were some Shadow Form Daggers Sin for AB, RA and CM (it used Arcane Echo, but no Deadly Paradox, so it couldn't maintain SF, but it had Dark Escape+Feigned Neutrality to make up for it) and some Motivation Paragon Hero without any Spear Mastery.
Arcane Echo Shadow Form Golden Fox Strike Wild Strike Critical Strike Critical Eye Dark Escape Feigned Neutrality

Arcane Echo Shadow Form Shadowy Burden Black Mantis Thrust Wild Strike Critical Strike Critical Eye Feigned Neutrality
The first one is what I used for RA, but I think I dropped Dark Escape for Rez. One time in RA, I was the last one left, and the other team had 3 or 3 left, but I managed to Rez one of them, and then we had the whole team back, and won. Pretty epic, tbh. XD ــмıкεнaшк 23:26, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
"and some Motivation Paragon Hero without any Spear Mastery. " LOLOLOLOL XP I don't remember that. But I'm sure you know why it's been trashed O.O – Sazzy 23:29, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
ya, but the point still stands that I deal little to no damage with my Spear in Hard Mode, even with 13 Spear Mastery. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 23:30, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Wtb leadership shields tbh :P – Sazzy 23:34, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
Aura of the Lich Dark Pact Jaundiced Gaze Blood of the Aggressor Blood Renewal Signet of Lost Souls Mending Touch Resurrection Signet

^epic win, amirite?--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:36, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

I played something like that in AB, although it had moar Dark Aura and moar Mystic Regen before the nerf. XD ــмıкεнaшк 23:40, 13 August 2008 (EDT)
the sick thing was, i killed people with it. regularly. warriors would just stand there hacking away at me while i zapped them. although tbh today while playing that shocksin thing i twice came across the same warrior with flesh golem @ 12 mastery, so nothing really surprises me now.--reason.decrystallized In real life, pokemons would be used as sex toys. 23:42, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

I've seen Monks run Flesh Golems, using Hammers+SoH or a couple Sword attacks (namely Final Thrust). XD ــмıкεнaшк 23:44, 13 August 2008 (EDT)

I run Sword-Monks and Hammer-Monks myself :P And, when I'm bored beyond recognition, I run W/N 2-Tanks-in-One (Fleshy, rawr!). It always feels... bad... when I kill people with my utter trash build concepts with some major design flaw (generally, that's no heal, no block, no damage mitigation, or a severe lack of damage. Combinations possible). --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 06:46, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
I might've seen you in that case with your hammer monk. You dropped like a brick. A heavy brick ^^ – Sazzy 12:00, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Ya, I remember playing alongside a Hammer Monk, and a standard WoH hybrid Monk. I was either playing a Warrior's Endurance Hammer Warrior or a Melandru's Resilience Smiter Monk. =/ ــмıкεнaшк 12:03, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Lulz! If it was a warr I played against you ppl as an assacaster. If I remember correct, the warr was the last one standing too – Sazzy 12:04, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Did you have a Monk with you? My Team was all physicals, if I recall correctly (I think it was 3 Warriors (a Devastating Hammer with Shock, and the other used a Sword) and a Sin with Shadow of Haste+Grapple). I knew we would lose hard to anti-melee and a Monk. XD My IGN was Alex The Courageous, but I just deleted that character (because I go through PvP characters pretty often). =P ــмıкεнaшк 12:08, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
(non-random indent) I highly doubt you fought against me when I used a Hammer on my Monk. Unless, of course, you're one of the Koreans that control the PvE monsters, which I doubt, since you're not Korean. Also, my Hammer Monk is on this Wiki ([1]), along with the Axe and Sword :> I only ran Sword in RA, tho. I should try the Axe, cause Decap is brave :P --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 13:10, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Actually, the Monk I played with had Strength of Honor AND Balthazar's Spirit. He said the build surprisingly worked well, but I told him that we had another Monk on the team, anyway. XD ــмıкεнaшк 13:43, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Actually, I have both, too. Lol. And Judge's Insight. RAWR DOMAGES. --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 14:14, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
Actually, the Monk with Vamparic Spirit owns all ๔คгк Stop1 ςђค๏ร | 15:39, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
the new vamp spirit is an elite healing breeze that you can only cast on yourself.--reason.decrystallized Shock is a costly interrupt. 15:57, 17 August 2008 (EDT)
You CAN'T even cast it on yourself, you have to target a foe. O.o ــмıкεнaшк 09:11, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
an elite healing breeze that you can only use on yourself when in range of an enemy. even worse.--reason.decrystallized Shock is a costly interrupt. 09:14, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

But it steals like 50 HEALTH!! I'm pretty sure I saw an Assacaster with Vampiric Spirit+Angorodon's Gaze. And then I saw a N/D with Wearying Strike+Scythe, Plague Touch and Vampiric Spirit. lol ــмıкεнaшк 09:17, 18 August 2008 (EDT)

ZOMG IT STEALS 50 HEALTH!?!?!?!?! that changes everything!--reason.decrystallized Shock is a costly interrupt. 09:21, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
I think I saw a D/W Balthazar Hammer Bash Dervish or something in RA, too. RA is pretty fucked up. I just started playing as a Ranger (basic Incendiary Arrows), and whenever I enter the battle, I'm paired up with another Ranger or a Mesmer. One team, if I'm not mistaken, was 3 Rangers and a Mesmer. lol I think we lost to the Healer's Boon Monk+A/N Vampiric Spirit Assacaster+Mesmer+A Rit with Daggers (it had Brutal Weapon, so they must have failed pretty hard there), though. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 09:27, 18 August 2008 (EDT)


need your IGN. – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 18:58, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

I've got a bunch of characters (two slots go to PvP characters that I regularly delete and recreate), and a couple are on my Userpage. "Michael Nevaeh" will be the easiest so associate with me, though. =P ــмıкεнaшк 23:00, 19 August 2008 (EDT)

Urgoz's Flame

You need to (re)redo it, it's currently in trial (i've made a "major" edit, so it shouldn't show up in grace expired and get accidently deleted or anything.) PheNaxKian Sysop 17:15, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm too lazy, tbh. If anyone else wants to fix it, they can go ahead, but I think I'm done with Guild Wars. ــмıкεнaшк 18:09, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
No you're not. I still haven't remembered to add you on GWs so we can make mobs blow up with my rit build <3 – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 10:14, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
Well, I at least restored the build to to what it was when it was vetted Great. ــмıкεнaшк 15:16, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

Graphic Design

Why not just like.. go get a job doing it? Going to school for it's pretty much a joke in itself. Kinda like getting an Art or English degree tbh. <3 Just thought I'd show you some love. Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 16:51, 14 September 2008 (EDT)

You must have misunderstood. I'm not going to school for Graphic Design; it's just a pass-time. I agree with you about the degrees, though. When I get to University/College (which will be a couple of years), I wouldn't take Arts or languages. ــмıкεнaшк 17:00, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
H'okay. Good then. I'm a Comp Sci freshie myself. Do Comp Sci. It'll make you love life. Also, go to UIowa. We have parties here just about every night, and free condoms. Also, Graphic Design is fun. MSN or AIM me if you need shit like CS3 or what not kk. <3 Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 17:05, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
I've already got CS3. =P My older brother is into Web Design, and he's actually making money off of it ( and, but when he gets to University, he'll just be minoring in computers. When it comes to Web Design, there really isn't much else for him to learn at this point and what's left he could probably learn on his own, so getting heavy into it wouldn't be worth his time. ــмıкεнaшк 17:14, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
Who hasn't made money off web design, tbh? Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 17:24, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
Not me. :( ــмıкεнaшк 19:32, 14 September 2008 (EDT)


User WELL King This user is the WELL KING.

CABOSE(LVPoW)"Hey chicka bum bum!" 19:49, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

Well, the author said the build was for PvE, but I'll take that Userbox, anyway. ^^ ــмıкεнaшк 19:50, 15 September 2008 (EDT)


Why OoU? Why not barbs, rigor mortis, stuff like that? Also, you lack AR on the splinter hero. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 22:18, 17 September 2008 (EDT)

Minions (and sometimes even Heroes lol) are too hard to control after they've killed their first target, so Barbs, Rigor Mortis, Mark of Pain and the like wouldn't be used optimally. With OoU+EBSoH, the MM can deal well over 100 DPS. The Weapon Orders Hero's bar is full, and tbh, I never really cared for Ancestors' Rage in PvE, especially in Hard Mode. ــмıкεнaшк 07:06, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
Unless you're playing in Proph's HM, you're going to want two healers. I cba to think of how many times me and Bernie wiped in NF HM with even more than 2 heroes. YAY BOSSES DEALING 400+ DAMAGE WITH STONING. Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 13:02, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
An Imbagon would reduce that to like 50 damage, unless it was doing 400 damage through an Imbagon. =O ــмıкεнaшк 15:31, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
We don't use Imbagons. We use Life Bonding Signet Mezzes. We're brave like that. Cedave bad ツ cedave (contributionsbuildpage) 17:55, 18 September 2008 (EDT)
Just drop the minions entirely, is what I meant. It's a team dps vs personal dps thing. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{sysop}} 12:54, 19 September 2008 (EDT)


sucks, even with conjure. The fact that PvX can't tell shit from chocolate doesn't make a build good. <3u Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 21:28, 24 September 2008 (EDT)

Heh, it isn't that bad with a Conjure. Build:A/E Way of the Assassin is like a 6-7 second spike, has spammable attack skills between spikes and doesn't require too much preparation (adrenaline build-up, in particular). It was a 5 second spike before they balanced WotA, though. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 21:34, 24 September 2008 (EDT)
Six seconds? Jesus christ, you can post-guardian that... -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 10:53, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Yeh. I could disconnect, reconnect, and still have time to shield bash BoS DB. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 13:09, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
LOLWUT That's even worse than I thought. It wouldn't even kill anything over 550 hp. gg. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 13:10, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Most builds can't solo spike (and kill) a 600+ health target in 7 seconds, tbh. The BB Sin, which is probably the fastest solo spike (that can kill a 600+ health foe) I've witnessed, is a 5-6 second spike on average, and just barely kills a 600 health foe (you'll usually have to throw in a couple of auto-attacks). The WotA build I submitted is about a second slower (after the balance), and doesn't keep your target knocked down for the entire chain, but can dish out 50-70 DPS during HotO's downtime. ــмıкεнaшк 15:37, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Yeh. It works in RA, but without any snare or enchantment removal, it's gfg in HA or TA. Cedave bad  ツ cedave (☆contributions☆) 15:38, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Rawr will agree with me when I say that a good ranger can lineback a BB sin relatively well. A good one, not a fail one like me that only savage'd TF once. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 17:23, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
Tbh, Cripshots will pwn most melee. ــмıкεнaшк 17:26, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
This was essentially a stand-only match on Warrior's Island, and they had MBaS x9001. My cripple spam, when it stuck, didn't really do much. I'd have done better to roll one of the other elites (I was thinking Magebane because there was always something to interrupt.) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 18:44, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
You spend most of that game tab+s-shotting iirc. I linebacked more with d-strike tbh :P Also, they didn't use their chains very often, because I accidentally left the VoR mesmers camping them for half the game, so there may not have been as much to interrupt as you think :\ ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 19:05, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
It was more like tab - MASH A RANDOM NUMBER FROM 1 TO 3 - tab - MASH - tab - MASH etc. And VoR didn't stop the heroes very much; there was plenty there. -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 19:16, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
I meant not much linebacking to do, especially with frenzy on rawr's bar. ¬ «Ðêjh» (talk) 19:18, 25 September 2008 (EDT)


HAY --SorrowMcSorrowmancer 14:14, 28 September 2008 (EDT)

ohaider. :3 That Necro build looks pretty good, btw. ــмıкεнaшк 14:17, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
it does! =D --SorrowMcSorrowmancer 18:07, 28 September 2008 (EDT)


On friday, i wrote "Mike Hawk" on one of my classroom's boards at the end of the day and i forgot to erase it... —Daɽkɘʃʂ ӍcÇɧɑosmonǥɘɼ Darkchaossig1y. 18:01, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

Tbh, there's also a page in my Science/Math class that says Mike Oxbig (and maybe some other similar names). It's been there since early September. XD ــмıкεнaшк 18:04, 29 September 2008 (EDT)
Lol, ill have to write that under the detension list XDD —Daɽkɘʃʂ ӍcÇɧɑosmonǥɘɼ Darkchaossig1y. 19:48, 30 September 2008 (EDT)


you figured it out... have a cookie m8. Steve (LVPoW) I'm stalking you... 19:33, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

It was kind of obvious after you archived your (Cabooese's) talk page. XD ــмıкεнaшк 19:36, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
i gave up and i had my laughs when nobody else recognized me... Steve (LVPoW) I'm stalking you... 19:37, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm fail, I saw (LVPoW) and ignored the rest of the signature... -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image 19:40, 5 October 2008 (EDT)

Feeding the trolls...

is quite unhealthy for everyone b/c they fart and they stink raelly badly. don't do it ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 16:33, 7 October 2008 (EDT)

They haven't actually done anything wrong yet. If they're going to create sock accounts, they might as well do something interesting. XD ــмıкεнaшк 16:35, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
then let me rephrase it like so: "Feeding the socks is quite unhealthy for everyone b/c when they eat, they secrete a horrible odor and they stink really badly. don't do it." or i can say that it was quite disruptive behavior, trollish behavior. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 16:38, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
But I used Minor Edit. =P ــмıкεнaшк 16:39, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
Minor Edit = Brocolli to socks/trolls. It makes them fart stinkier and more quieter. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 16:53, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
Whoever you are, new guy, stop trolling Mike's talk. Take it somewhere else that no one cares about...Like your talk page. – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 17:47, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
Oh wait, new guy=Caboose. I knew that. – Come visitInfidel sigmy grass shack! 17:50, 7 October 2008 (EDT)


i didn't know you had a wikia. ☆Imbagon♥McSteve☆(LVPoW) Cuz Steve said so... ツ 13:40, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

I didn't know either. =O ــмıкεнaшк 13:41, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

are you a monk at heart?

i'm loving your monk builds using all the ideas i never bothered to put on paper (no sarcasm) i'd call you godly but someone already stole that name XDSoul4hdwn 20:36, 16 October 2008 (EDT)

Well, I never really played Monks a lot, and those builds I submitted aren't very original. I like superpower heals as much as the next guy, though. =P ــмıкεнaшк 20:41, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
i'll submit a build soon that'll be super power heals if you wana see :P Soul4hdwn 10:07, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

11th October

"You could always use a Spear on fleeing foes for auto-crits, but.. " from Build_talk:A/Me_Lyssa's_Assacaster#6_Crit_strikes.3F
Only works for Melee attacks, for future reference :P --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 09:16, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

Oops. Someone did some tests a while before I made that comment, too, to prove it. I guess that means you have to pull out an axe/sword and auto-attack a fleeing foe that's snared. XD ــмıкεнaшк 15:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
Hahah. The best part is you commented on it :P --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 16:45, 22 October 2008 (EDT)
I completely forgot. XD ــмıкεнaшк 16:45, 22 October 2008 (EDT) wuts bulls strike m8? ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 16:50, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

You need to catch your target first, although Dash serves that purpose better than most IMSs. I meant Cripple or Hex snares, in any case. =/ ــмıкεнaшк 16:54, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
i c ur point, although its mostly spike not pressure ɟoʇuɐʌʎʞɔıɹPanic srsbsns 16:55, 29 October 2008 (EDT)
Ya, two imba Rangers, two imba Warriors and a Rit hurts. ــмıкεнaшк 16:58, 29 October 2008 (EDT)


Punishing Shot Necro is leet. --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 13:46, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Woops. I've been typing too fast lately. XD ــмıкεнaшк 13:48, 9 November 2008 (EST)

User:Fire Tock/Race Contest

JOIN!--Green thumbs upWin Tock Rules! 16:52, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Bah, I'm terribly uncreative. :( ــмıкεнaшк 16:54, 9 November 2008 (EST)

wanna do urgoz?

i want2lern it and am awsome wit WS sin. pm me in game at the blue sin if u want to--IMBLUEDa Ba Dee Da Ba Die 19:39, 9 November 2008 (EST)

I stopped playing Guild Wars a couple months ago. XD ــмıкεнaшк 19:40, 9 November 2008 (EST)
o rawr. then y u keep postin on pvx........--IMBLUEDa Ba Dee Da Ba Die 19:47, 9 November 2008 (EST)
Because I'm bored and I'm waiting for something better to come along. =P ــмıкεнaшк 19:48, 9 November 2008 (EST)
I did more theorycrafting than actually playing, anyway. >.> ــмıкεнaшк 19:49, 9 November 2008 (EST)
u make me sad.=[ i thought u actually played and cud show me the ropes =[.--IMBLUEDa Ba Dee Da Ba Die 19:51, 9 November 2008 (EST)
I've actually never even done Urgoz's Warren. lol ــмıкεнaшк 19:52, 9 November 2008 (EST)
rofl u serious? so u theorycrafted from urgoz page on wiki? rofl.--IMBLUEDa Ba Dee Da Ba Die 19:54, 9 November 2008 (EST)
pretty much. I also looked at the couple Urgoz's builds we already have. =P ــмıкεнaшк 20:01, 9 November 2008 (EST)
I do the same. I can theorycraft a build aimed at pwning a dungeon and never have played that dungeon. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:04, 12 November 2008 (EST)
Hey blue, If you wanna do Urgoz then look me up in game. I'll probably take an alliance group to do HM urgoz this weekend sometime and your welcome to join us. Wild 05:38, 13 November 2008 (EST)

Fur ur Triple Hammer thingy


If you need the atts to anything just tell me. --FrostyMini england 19:21, 14 November 2008 (EST)

Actually I will tell you the N/Rt ones, it's 12 Resto, 11+1+1 Soulre, 5 Blood, 4+1 curses. --FrostyMini england 19:22, 14 November 2008 (EST)
That looks much better. XD ــмıкεнaшк 19:24, 14 November 2008 (EST)
Should I keep Bull's or drop it for Power Attack, though? Hammer Bash every 4 seconds is already a lot of KD, imo. ــмıкεнaшк 19:35, 14 November 2008 (EST)


You play srs necro hexway. -- ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake hissssssssssss 02:57, 16 November 2008 (EST)

whaaaa??? =/ ــмıкεнaшк 08:45, 16 November 2008 (EST)
...Unless there's another Mike Hawkey running around rolling my hway hexfag latenight :P -- ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake hissssssssssss 17:46, 16 November 2008 (EST)
nah, I wouldn't use a name like that in-game, for fear of being banned. XD ــмıкεнaшк 17:49, 16 November 2008 (EST)
You should take credit for the dude anyways. Otherwise I'll say you are terrible at hexway, and even worse at everything else. Btw, you play a terrible hexway! -- ShazamTheSnake Shazam The Snake hissssssssssss 20:00, 16 November 2008 (EST)
I've never played hexway. XP ــмıкεнaшк 20:02, 16 November 2008 (EST)
Gayness is gay. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 14:01, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Nukes in HM

Actually, if you can get three or four nukers to all stand in a ward and all the enemies to ball up, the damage isn't that bad. If you're just doing something like vanquishing that doesn't require much attention (pulls of three... nice joke, anet), you don't even have to mess with the AI to get them all clumped up. It'll take a bit longer, but when hero eles and necros stand in my ward, things die. (Also fun is sending seven or so minions at a boss and warding around the minions. Things die fast.)

Also, I'd love to know how you figure the logic of SH/TH doing 36 damage + high AL + ward for +15 armor-ignoring damage = half damage. :p -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{Bacon}} 10:10, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Heh, it was just a guess.
So the monsters would need 140 armor, which is higher than I expected. >.>
The point still stands that armor-ignoring damage>armor-affected, and I've never really been a fan of DoTAoEs, tbh, because I don't want to wait the 5 seconds for all of the damage when I could just blow everything up with Cry of Pain. ــмıкεнaшк 15:51, 20 November 2008 (EST)
Real men use armor-ignoring AoE+Cry of Pain. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 15:53, 20 November 2008 (EST)
Real REAL men wear pink. Wild 03:47, 21 November 2008 (EST)
I don't have anything pink. :( ــмıкεнaшк 07:06, 21 November 2008 (EST)
DAMMIT MIKE, You're not even trying !! You better get Pink ... or ... or something will pink you !! Wild 07:55, 21 November 2008 (EST)
Isn't that kinda redundant? Armor ignoring AoE damge = Cry of Pain :P which should actually proc for each target hit under the effect of a Mesmer hex *lol*. --Many srs beans Srs Beans R Srs 10:59, 21 November 2008 (EST)
How about this then: non-PvE-only armor ignoring AoE+Cry of Pain. Yeah. What do you have to say to that one, MISTER SERIOUS? HMMMM? WHY SO SERIOUS? – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:25, 21 November 2008 (EST)


Paragons are good, Paraway is good, and Orders Derv is good. I can't believe you seriously think that those things are bad... --GoD Hammer and Sickle Guild of Deals 10:15, 22 November 2008 (EST)

They're good but not great, tbh. Paragons lack AoE and can't compensate for it with their buffs, and the Orders Dervish tries to do too much and in the end, compromises everything. So instead of being great at one thing, it's just good at a couple things. ــмıкεнaшк 10:47, 22 November 2008 (EST)
Orders+7 ranged physicals=win. Paraway basically makes you invincible. onoez, they do 3 damages. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 11:00, 22 November 2008 (EST)


My ward honor did over six thousand damage in a single cast the other day. It was win.

We had three triple heat nukers and an MM bomber. With all three heats up and the four AoErs standing in the ward the whole time, that was 60 packets affected by ward. (I'm estimating around fifteen minions died during this extravaganza; they were walling and the other guys had scythes.)

There were about eight enemies, maybe a couple more. I didn't bother to count, they died too fast. It was a medium-sized pull, at any rate.

My ward honor is for +14 damage. By my count, the grand total is 6,720 damage before the spearchucking from Fall and I, wanding from the monks, extra AoEs (the heroes had rodgort's and/or breath of fire and/or met shower, iirc), autoattacks from minions (lol), and extra enemies.

The goal, of course, is to break 9,000 damage... looks like I'll be doing the Deep again. :D

-- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{Bacon}} 11:51, 22 November 2008 (EST)

That's a lot of fucking DoTAoE. XP ــмıкεнaшк 11:54, 22 November 2008 (EST)
many domoges is many – talkInfidel sigcontribs 12:37, 22 November 2008 (EST)
The sadface part is, realistically, I doubt the combined health of the mob was high enough for the actual +damage to get anywhere near that high. Maybe +4k or so... -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{Bacon}} 12:45, 22 November 2008 (EST)
Over aggroing ftw. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 13:35, 22 November 2008 (EST)
Overagro is 3+ groups, which is 18+ enemies if the groups are relatively small. (Groups of 3-4 don't count - a group isn't challenging when Fall and I can split with our three heroes each and take out groups of enemies on our own in hard mode.) -- Armond WarbladeArmond sig image{{Bacon}} 14:55, 22 November 2008 (EST)
Exactly. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 17:36, 22 November 2008 (EST)

Please refrain

From using trial just to get a vote wipe. Trial is to work the kinks out of builds. I refer mostly to Build:R/W_Melandru's_Shot_Turret, because the bar looks finished and there is no reason to put it into trial. If i am mistaken, sorry, but wanted to clear it up for future reference. • Saint TALK 18:22, 23 November 2008(EST)

The build was finished, but I made some small adjustments (adding Flail, because that's what everyone uses, apparently). Besides, some of the votes needed a look at anyway, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 18:30, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Request votewipe then because most of the votes are bad. --Frosty 18:44, 23 November 2008 (EST)
It was because some of the votes were bad AND because I fixed up the bar, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 18:47, 23 November 2008 (EST)
Well thats not what trial is for, next time just request vote wipe for build revamp. • Saint TALK 18:58, 23 November 2008(EST)
Either way it requires a vote wipe. Why are you being so nit-picky, Saint? – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:10, 24 November 2008 (EST)
I would guess that this has something to do with it. Xsig 16:18, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Faggotry. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:20, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Ye... tbh, throwing it back in Trial makes a lot of sense, because then correct votes won't be added to the incorrect ones. Admin discretion when it comes to wipe time tbh. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby 16:26, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Since we're on the subject of wiping, how do you wipe? Folded, or a jumbled ball? – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:41, 24 November 2008 (EST)
I used to ball, but it was wasteful and inefficient, so I switched. You know what I was shocked to find out? Some guys pee sitting down. - Misery Is Friendly Misery Dog obaby 16:52, 24 November 2008 (EST)
Same here! I balled all the time, but then was like "holy shit, I could get like 10 wipes out of this if I folded!" So yeah. And @end comment, those are known as vesties. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:54, 24 November 2008 (EST)
If you go deep enough, you only need to wipe once. =O ــмıкεнaшк 18:10, 24 November 2008 (EST)
I wipe 3 times. Once to get most of the stuff off. Next to get the remaining stuff off. Then a third time to ensure everything is off. Sometimes when I get the hershey squirts I need to wipe about 5 or 6 times, but that's besides the point. Plus, sticking a huge wad of paper up my ass is not wanted. – talkInfidel sigcontribs 18:53, 24 November 2008 (EST)
lol this convo has done nothing except inspire me to try folded instead of balled and perhaps change my vote on a recent wiki ballot. ;) Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 05:11, 25 November 2008 (EST)
Folding > balling. (SUBLIMINAL vote against saint MESSAGING) – talkInfidel sigcontribs 15:55, 25 November 2008 (EST)
I find the idea of Mike's "deep" wipe somewhat intimidating. Sounds Rough. Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 04:00, 28 November 2008 (EST)
I was lol'ing as I was typing it. XP ــмıкεнaшк 07:08, 28 November 2008 (EST)
I think the comment scared Saint off the wiki ... be ashamed. Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 07:42, 28 November 2008 (EST)


Build:Team - Urgoz's Cryway I went all over with rewrite are you ok with that? (too late to make this question I think :P) --Anonimous. 16:47, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Yes, it is. I was asking for someone to rewrite it because I didn't feel like it. =P ــмıкεнaшк 21:08, 27 November 2008 (EST)

lol well king

you should probably realize if you welled every build we should we wouldnt have any builds in testing, gg--Relyk chtistmas2ChristmasRelyk 22:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)

I stopped stalking recent changes, so I'm not much of a Well King anymore. XD ــмıкεнaшк 07:16, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Then that userbox needs to be changed to "ex-WELL king". – talkInfidel sigcontribs 16:09, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Done. XD ــмıкεнaшк 17:01, 8 December 2008 (EST)
+1 – talkInfidel sigcontribs 17:13, 8 December 2008 (EST)

This is...

... Cake Townz! Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 07:11, 11 December 2008 (EST)

Now where's my cake? XP ــмıкεнaшк 07:15, 11 December 2008 (EST)
Dont fight it Mike. You know this is it ... Its finally here. Cake Townz! Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 11:49, 11 December 2008 (EST)

SPARTAAAAA! – talkInfidel sigcontribs 15:39, 11 December 2008 (EST)

lol Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 09:48, 12 December 2008 (EST)

Ether Prism Update

I wonder, Can i see a touch Ele on the horizon? Instead of OoB using this? They wouldnt have to take dmg from the sac, they could continue attacking and the energy storage would probably offset the expertise that the touch rangers have. Gimme head! Wild blows Image-wildblows 09:48, 12 December 2008 (EST)

I think the R/N would still have better energy management, and survivability, but touchers aren't that great to begin with, tbh. ــмıкεнaшк 15:50, 12 December 2008 (EST)


I was using the RoJ smiter build on my heroes (as /E with GoLE) for Gate of Madness running and I never needed to micromanage them, and it worked out pretty nicely, so hero variant has been added MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 18:55, 26 December 2008 (EST)

I removed my vote. ^^ ــмıкεнaшк 18:58, 26 December 2008 (EST)
although u may need to micromanage them on a tank based format in hm pve or they might run up to the tank or do other crap like that MuffinPWNAGEMUFFIN crabs 19:00, 26 December 2008 (EST)

Whut happened to you? ;o

--Darklɘs McChaosmongɘr Darwkchawossig 20:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe he raged at PvX, but don't quote me on that. --Slurry. (Infidel) 19:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
i belive he's busy playing a concert at my school but maybe not... mike are u in a band? where u used a gw skill as the name of the band? and where we cant hear ur singers? rofl echo fail hhahaha --- Effin<3
I used to play piano for "Arcane Echo", but I quit. Those were a bunch of my friends playing up there (and none of them actually play GW, but they thought "Arcane Echo" sounded cool).
They did pretty terrible. XD The guys that played Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls, and that band that played (with some chick singing) Sweet Child o' Mine, Thunderstruck by ACDC, and Any Way You Want It by Journey was fucking amazing. Apparently the singer was hot, but I wasn't close enough to see. :'( ــѕт.мıкε 14:40, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
so..what happened to you? --Darkɘst McChaosmonstɘr 17:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Got bored of GW. I'm probably not gonna pick it back up, but I wanted to see what was going on after all of the updates I missed. ــѕт.мıкε 17:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thatcomes up to around all you gw gold, ectos, and shards, sir --Darkɘst McChaosmonstɘr 17:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Modified Your Build Page

I modified your code, taking out all the unused variables and eliminating your width entry. With it in, it jacked up with the width of the bottom section. If that's the way you wanted it, then feel free to undo last edit (all my edits were done at once, so one undo will revert). ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 15:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

a you may have seen, this user is inactive.. :P --Darkɘst McChaosmonstɘr 18:16, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
only for four days. I have just come off nearly a year absence. ╠╣Ω¥†\/[ÞΩ┌┐Ð] 18:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

changed a bit. still not as sexy as DwG, but wotev. ··· Danny Does Drugs 16:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

My vote still applies, tbh. I would leave Resilient Weapon optional (for MBaS), but that's me. ــѕт.мıкε 17:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Wow, you came back. Hi. ~ Big Big sadface sig sysop 18:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
And I might actually start to play Guild Wars again, eventually, but I hope not. XD ــѕт.мıкε 20:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


I saw you deleted the WotA build, but Im not sure how to check the ratings.. im new to pvx you know ;)

but I deleted your edit because this build was posted only about 4 hours ago and now it is allready going to be deleted O_O hmm I think that really sucks because its a good build ^_^ but if the ratings are that low then you are probably right to delete it.

HF :D Wuttie 21:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Most people get their first submitted builds deleted. If you stick around here, I'm sure you'll learn a lot.
You still have 2 weeks before Build:A/any_WotA_Critter gets deleted, so you can try to make some changes to improve it before then. ــѕт.мıкε 21:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
on the tabs at the top, press the "rate" one to see ratings. --|Hipowi sig Hip☀wi pewpewpew 21:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Wow hipowi way to steal my symbol without asking --☀Dark Chaos☀ 23:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

PvP skills

PvP skills currently break pvxbig and cause it to spew it incorrect template codes...which is why none of the builds have the pvp skills listed inside of pvxbig. So now you need to either go back and undo each of those edits or hope phen's plan to fix pvxbig works--TahiriVeila 21:17, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

fixd «Novii« 21:35, March 16, 2010 (UTC)


SY needs a nerf. Badly. Don't be bad. -- Armond {{Bacon}} 15:41, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

If you don't like "SY!", don't run it. While you're here, though, you can check out User:St._Michael/sandbox#2_Man_Racway. ــѕт.мıкε 15:50, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think Armonds point was he didn't like, rather it needed a Nerf because it's OP >.>. ~ PheNaxKian talk 15:52, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
(ec)Not liking/running something has nothing to do with balance. --Frosty Frostcharge 15:53, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
It can; if you H/H everything like I did, the only reason you would run "SY!" is because you like it, because it's OP. If no one liked Imbagons, no one would run them; preference is a product of balance (in this case, at least). If you're actually playing with other people, though, they might bitch at you to run it, in which case, it isn't simply preference. ــѕт.мıкε 16:00, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Stop being bad. Also, that's a bad 2-man racway. We really need to start calling it paraway, though, because Racthoh designed his build basically around solo vanquishing 4-man areas. It just also turned out awesome for general PvE. It was never designed around the idea of running with other humans, iirc (though it works fine if you do run it with another human). He certainly never thought about a two-man version of the build, because he only really ever did things with SMS (5+ man) or with henchies. -- Armond {{Bacon}} 16:04, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Seriously? So you're turning a blind eye to something that's obviously over powered, because you don't use it... --Frosty Frostcharge 16:11, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
I've acknowledged that it's overpowered, but how many people would be pissed off if it were nerfed (depending on how hard the nerfbat hits, of course)? Even if they only nerfed the armor bonus to +40, there would be no point in having an actual human Paragon in your team when a Hero can do the same ("Stand Your Ground!" would be close enough, and more reliable, because it doesn't require adrenaline), and they'd have to compensate quite a lot. Without OP PvE-only skills, there'd be even less incentive to play with other people. I don't see how it would be in the developer's best interests. Also, my Imbagon was my main character, so I did use "SY!" a lot. ــѕт.мıкε 16:32, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
there'd be plenty of point having a para given the mass party wide buffs it can give you =/. And just because a lot of people would QQ of it being nerfed isn't a reason not to nerf it (See Shadow form). ~ PheNaxKian talk 16:40, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
Shadow Form is still meta after the nerfs. I'd still run "SY!" if it were nerfed to +50 (which is half of what it's at now, and you'd still take less than half armor-affected damage), but anything much lower than that, and I'd probably never play my Paragon again. I might take Hero Paragons when I play another character, though, but why play something a Hero can do just as well? ــѕт.мıкε 16:49, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
but the point is shadow form isn't as OP as it was, it's more balanced (I said more, not that it is). You're essentially saying there's no reason to run a paragon unless you're running an imbagon then, just looking at out "great general" builds, there's 2 other paragons there, neither of which use "SY!", so there are alternatives to imbagons =/. ~ PheNaxKian talk 17:00, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
That's because one runs a scythe, and scythes are OP with Asuran Scan and AoHM (just about any physical profession with this combination is in Great; we have A/D, D/any, P/D, R/D and W/D). Asuran Scan and Orders also make daggers OP (we have A/any, P/A, R/A and W/A. Then again, Heroes don't run daggers very well, but I'd still prefer Scythe over Daggers. ــѕт.мıкε 17:11, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
That's cause we don't have any other great paragon builds on the site because they're so overshadowed by the imbagon. If SY and TNTF were nerfed, (smart) teams would start bringing DA/SS/CS/SoR paragons, since they'd still have their (current) ridiculous damage output and partywide damage prevention capabilities. -- Armond {{Bacon}} 06:00, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
What I'm saying is that we need PvE-only skills to make it worth playing with other people instead of just H/H (depending on AI). If it weren't for OP PvE-only skills (that are at least as powerful as Elites), players would just bring Hero Paragons instead of looking for human Paragons. Paragons would probably be hit much harder than most profs, because AI with their skills is pretty good. Heroes can't use Dagger chains or really spam attack skills at all (D-Slash, Barrage, etc.), so people would still want to play with human melee. Heroes also aren't great with DoTAoE or the ER Infuser, so human Eles will still be worth it, too. It's kind of funny that they're buffing Mesmer interrupts (and related skills) in PvE, because it's Heroes that will benefit the most (from the timed interrupts). It could, potentially, make the demand for human Mesmers even lower, because Cry of Frustration will deal as much damage as Cry of Pain with "BUH!" (save degen), and Heroes tend to interrupt as well as skilled players. ــѕт.мıкε 13:45, May 1, 2010 (UTC)
Eh. I, personally, would still play my paragon (or warrior, for that matter) because I'm better than the AI. But yeah, in general, the AI in this game needs to not be ridiculous. -- Armond {{Bacon}} 16:18, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Because you don't know and seem obsessed

Keystone Signet. Moved to Fast Casting; Reduced Recharge to 15; Functionality = "All of your signets except Keystone Signet are recharged. For 20 Seconds, the next 0..6 times you use a signet on a foe, all other adjacent foes of your target are interrupted and take 15..60 damage."
Remember, could be subject to change, also if you are going to propose ideas for future updates of builds, do it in the userspace and not the build space. --Frosty Frostcharge 17:16, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. ــѕт.мıкε 17:25, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
are those things scaled to 0..12 or 0..15? i never remember. - AthrunFeya Lau bfly - 17:28, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Sure it's 0..15 --Frosty Frostcharge 17:49, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
The numbers are almost always cleaner (ending in multiples of 5) at 15 than at 12. You can also check the grading; for Keystone's damage: (60-15)/15=3, whereas (60-15)/12=3.75. ــѕт.мıкε 17:56, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
Or you can just look and see that 60 is an oddly round number so it is probably at spec 15 (because spec 15 always has rounded normal numbers). --Frosty Frostcharge 18:11, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
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